Classify Vlado Dapčević

[Bosniensis]

True Montenegrin look I believe :)

Click anywhere in video, it's his interview.



https://youtu.be/ggTcrV-0ztE

[Crazy W.]

Dinarid

[Kivan]

Dinarid + Borreby.

[Columella]

Obviously Dinaric

[CommonSense]

Dinarid + Balkan-Borreby

[Pribislav]

Dinarid + Balkan-Borreby

This

[Vojnik]

Dinaric. Illyria.

[Bosniensis]

He doesn't look Slavic to me, just like significant % of Montenegrins he looks Balkan

[Moje ime]

Dinarid + Balkan-Borreby

His nose is far from borreby xD

Dinarid.

[CommonSense]

His nose is far from borreby xD

Dinarid.

Disagree, it's rather flattened.

[Moje ime]

Disagree, it's rather flattened.

https://vaestotiede.files.wordpress.com/2015/07/borreby-google-chrome-24-7-2015-173354.jpg

Borreby imaju prćast nos, u starijim godinama lice na Deda mraza xD

[Pribislav]

He doesn't look Slavic to me, just like significant % of Montenegrins he looks Balkan

He has a Borreby ibfluence.
Borreby is CM type from northern Europe.

Borreby influence is high in Dinaric Alps, and probably related with Goths (Ostroghots) which settled in Dinaric area in 5th century


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9z9dwpeLPI

I1-Z63 among south Slavs is from Goths.
There is a theory that I2a1b2a1 is from Goths.

[Odin]

Dinaro-Borreby.

[Bosniensis]

He has a Borreby ibfluence.
Borreby is CM type from northern Europe.

Borreby influence is high in Dinaric Alps, and probably related with Goths (Ostroghots) which settled in Dinaric area in 5th century


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9z9dwpeLPI



I2a1b2a1 can't be from Goths because Goths never ruled Greece, and Greece has a significant % of I2a1b2a1

I2a1b2a1 is from Pannonian plain. After Barbarian invasions those who fled East ended in Ukraine.

Coon: Borreby: Large-headed brachycephals of Ofnet-Afalou type, the unreduced brachycephalic strain in Crô-Magnon; found in solution in peripheral regions of northwestern Europe, and as a major population element in most of northern and central Germany, and in Belgium. Like the Brünn race, with which it is often associated, it occurs also in North Africa and the Canary Islands.

It's Celtic or Illyrian (which is one of the same)

Back then North Western Europe was I2 before Scandinavian R1b invasion.

[Pribislav]

I2a1b2a1 can't be from Goths because Goths never ruled Greece, and Greece has a significant % of I2a1b2a1

I2a1b2a1 is from Pannonian plain. After Barbarian invasions those who fled East ended in Ukraine.

Coon: Borreby: Large-headed brachycephals of Ofnet-Afalou type, the unreduced brachycephalic strain in Crô-Magnon; found in solution in peripheral regions of northwestern Europe, and as a major population element in most of northern and central Germany, and in Belgium. Like the Brünn race, with which it is often associated, it occurs also in North Africa and the Canary Islands.

It's Celtic or Illyrian (which is one of the same)

Back then North Western Europe was I2 before Scandinavian R1b invasion.

I don't believe in theory about Gothic origin of I2a1b.
I2a1b is Slavic. I2a1b2a1 together with R1a-M458/Z280 participared in ethno-genesis of proto-Slavs in Polesia (Belarus).
Before mixing with R1a are creation of proto-Slavs I2a1b population was probably Germanic speakers. They were probably Bastarnae https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bastarnae
Read here about Bastarnae theory about origin of I2a-Din https://www.poreklo.rs/forum/index.php?topic=166.0

[Bosniensis]

I don't believe in theory about Gothic origin of I2a1b.
I2a1b is Slavic. I2a1b2a1 together with R1a-M458/Z280 participared in ethno-genesis of proto-Slavs in Polesia (Belarus).
Before mixing with R1a are creation of proto-Slavs I2a1b population was probably Germanic speakers. They were probably Bastarnae https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bastarnae
Read here about Bastarnae theory about origin of I2a-Din https://www.poreklo.rs/forum/index.php?topic=166.0

Just keep this in mind, whatever the truth is... Either I2a1b or R1a are not Slavs.

If I2 is Slavic in origin then R1a is NOT.

If R1a is Slavic then if we go back 2000 years in history the only people who could bring I2 are: Celtic peoples, Proto-Carpatian peoples (Thracians).

If I2 is Slavic then R1a is Turkic or how they call it "Indo-Iranic" and "Indo-Germanic" ...

You can't have it both ways.

Political context in Serbia promotes the idea of I2 and R1a being the same people, they are obviously not.. they share absolutely nothing in Ancient history, it's only that one group is enslaved by another.

[Dick]

Just keep this in mind, whatever the truth is... Either I2a1b or R1a are not Slavs.

If I2 is Slavic in origin then R1a is NOT.

If R1a is Slavic then if we go back 2000 years in history the only people who could bring I2 are: Celtic peoples, Proto-Carpatian peoples (Thracians).

If I2 is Slavic then R1a is Turkic or how they call it "Indo-Iranic" and "Indo-Germanic" ...

You can't have it both ways.

Political context in Serbia promotes the idea of I2 and R1a being the same people, they are obviously not.. they share absolutely nothing in Ancient history, it's only that one group is enslaved by another.
There you go man. You’re not Illyrian but bastarnae

[Pribislav]

Just keep this in mind, whatever the truth is... Either I2a1b or R1a are not Slavs.

If I2 is Slavic in origin then R1a is NOT.

If R1a is Slavic then if we go back 2000 years in history the only people who could bring I2 are: Celtic peoples, Proto-Carpatian peoples (Thracians).

If I2 is Slavic then R1a is Turkic or how they call it "Indo-Iranic" and "Indo-Germanic" ...

You can't have it both ways.

Political context in Serbia promotes the idea of I2 and R1a being the same people, they are obviously not.. they share absolutely nothing in Ancient history, it's only that one group is enslaved by another.

You are very wrong because you claim that one population had only 1 haplogroup.

You and you uncle (mother's brother) or me and my uncle probably carry different haplogroups. Does this mean that we and our uncles are not of same ethnicity?

Nikola Tesla was R1a-M458, Živojin Mišić was I2-PH908, Novica Cerović was I1-P109, Petar Bojović was E-V13, Jovan Deretić is R1a-Z280, Karađorđe was I2-CTS10228... all of them are Serbs.

[Pribislav]

There you go man. You’re not Illyrian but bastarnae

The worst nihtmare of Bosniensis has come true.
He is not descendant of Illyrians and Romans by direct male line, but he is descendant of some barbarian Germanic tribe. :)

[Bosniensis]

You are very wrong because you claim that one population had only 1 haplogroup.

You and you uncle (mother's brother) or me and my uncle probably carry different haplogroups. Does this mean that we and our uncles are not of same ethnicity?

Nikola Tesla was R1a-M458, Živojin Mišić was I2-PH908, Novica Cerović was I1-P109, Petar Bojović was E-V13, Jovan Deretić is R1a-Z280, Karađorđe was I2-CTS10228... all of them are Serbs.

True 4 mil Serb people in Marmara region in Turkey call themselves Turks but we all know they are not.

That’s how I2 became Slavic, Turkic etc

In 0 a.d people were not that mixed as are today that’s why I think I2 isn’t Slavic or Germanic for the reason in that period those people were not mixed

Also I2 originate from Western Europe and Pannonian Basin where CTS10228 are recent mutations from 2000 yr ago that did not exist before

My ancestors were not CTS 10228 because that subclade did not exist but some other P37 subclade which was Celtic, Illyrian




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