GUESS this person from their GEDMatch result!

[Sikeliot]

MDLP:



# Population Percent
1 South_and_West_European 45.36
2 Middle_East 35.67
3 Caucaus_Parsia 13.16
4 North_and_East_European 4.13
5 North_Asian 1.33
6 Arctic_Amerind 0.29
7 Paleo_African 0.06

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Jew_Morocco 6.74
2 Jew_France 7.44
3 Sephardim 7.75
4 Jew_Italia 8.06
5 Jew_Algeria 9.66
6 Jew_Tunisia 10.52
7 Jew_Libya 11.46
8 Ashkenazim 12.7
9 Sicilian 12.8
10 Greek_Cretan 15.35
11 Italian-South 15.45
12 Jew_Romania 16.23
13 Cypriot 16.32
14 Italian-Center 16.87
15 Greek_East 17.55
16 Jew_Syria 18.13
17 Greek_Center 18.85
18 Greek_South 20.28
19 Ashkenazim_V 20.55
20 Greek_North 21.28

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 54.3% Samaritian + 45.7% Sardinian @ 1.98
2 85.6% Jew_Morocco + 14.4% Sardinian @ 3.66
3 81.2% Jew_Morocco + 18.8% Otzi @ 4.03
4 75.8% Jew_Libya + 24.2% Sardinian @ 4.04
5 70.9% Jew_Tunisia + 29.1% Otzi @ 4.35
6 55.6% Palestinian + 44.4% Sardinian @ 4.4
7 77.8% Jew_Tunisia + 22.2% Sardinian @ 4.44
8 90.7% Jew_Morocco + 9.3% Bra1 @ 4.48
9 69.1% Jew_Libya + 30.9% Otzi @ 4.88
10 90.1% Jew_Morocco + 9.9% Basque @ 4.9
11 54.7% Otzi + 45.3% Samaritian @ 4.92
12 79.7% Sephardim + 20.3% Otzi @ 4.99
13 85.2% Jew_Morocco + 14.8% Corsican @ 5.2
14 88.6% Jew_Morocco + 11.4% Spaniard @ 5.28
15 88% Jew_Morocco + 12% Iberian @ 5.32
16 74.1% Jew_Algeria + 25.9% Otzi @ 5.32
17 87.8% Jew_Morocco + 12.2% Kosovar @ 5.47
18 79.6% Jew_Italia + 20.4% Otzi @ 5.48
19 89.2% Jew_Morocco + 10.8% Gok4 @ 5.5
20 87.9% Jew_Morocco + 12.1% Portugese @ 5.52



Eurogenes:



# Population Percent
1 West_Med 37.87
2 East_Med 20.96
3 North_Atlantic 17.58
4 West_Asian 15.93
5 Baltic 4.33
6 Red_Sea 3.33

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 West_Sicilian 16.56
2 South_Italian 16.72
3 Central_Greek 17.38
4 Tuscan 17.46
5 East_Sicilian 17.77
6 Italian_Abruzzo 17.77
7 Sardinian 19.29
8 North_Italian 19.41
9 Greek_Thessaly 19.66
10 Algerian_Jewish 21.04
11 Italian_Jewish 22.17
12 Sephardic_Jewish 22.27
13 Ashkenazi 22.56
14 Spanish_Andalucia 23.87
15 Spanish_Extremadura 24.59
16 Bulgarian 25.66
17 Tunisian_Jewish 25.75
18 Libyan_Jewish 25.89
19 Portuguese 26.01
20 Spanish_Valencia 26.25

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 67.8% Sardinian + 32.2% Adygei @ 2.21
2 68.6% Sardinian + 31.4% Georgian @ 2.26
3 68.7% Sardinian + 31.3% North_Ossetian @ 2.81
4 67.9% Sardinian + 32.1% Ossetian @ 2.95
5 69.7% Sardinian + 30.3% Abhkasian @ 3.01
6 66.5% Sardinian + 33.5% Kumyk @ 3.14
7 67.1% Sardinian + 32.9% Balkar @ 3.38
8 67.6% Sardinian + 32.4% Kabardin @ 3.44
9 69% Sardinian + 31% Chechen @ 3.47
10 70% Sardinian + 30% Lezgin @ 3.49
11 70.3% Sardinian + 29.7% Tabassaran @ 4.34
12 67.5% Sardinian + 32.5% Kurdish @ 4.96
13 65.4% Sardinian + 34.6% Azeri @ 5.42
14 61.2% Sardinian + 38.8% Turkish @ 5.52
15 68.5% Sardinian + 31.5% Iranian @ 5.78
16 65.2% Sardinian + 34.8% Armenian @ 5.95
17 66.3% Sardinian + 33.7% Georgian_Jewish @ 6.56
18 68.7% Sardinian + 31.3% Turkmen @ 7.42
19 75.1% Sardinian + 24.9% Makrani @ 7.75
20 66.3% Sardinian + 33.7% Assyrian @ 7.84



Dodecad:



# Population Percent
1 Mediterranean 48.11
2 West_Asian 25.21
3 West_European 12.47
4 Northwest_African 6.34
5 Southwest_Asian 5.76
6 Palaeo_African 0.93
7 Northeast_Asian 0.66
8 East_European 0.52

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 S_Italian (Dodecad) 5.82
2 Sicilian (Dodecad) 6.41
3 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 7.56
4 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 10.07
5 C_Italian (Dodecad) 10.35
6 Greek (Dodecad) 12.45
7 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 14.87
8 Tuscan (HGDP) 15.19
9 O_Italian (Dodecad) 15.29
10 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 15.85
11 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 17.09
12 Cypriots (Behar) 17.82
13 Tuscan (Xing) 20.28
14 TSI (HapMap) 20.6
15 Tuscan (Henn) 20.85
16 North_Italian (HGDP) 23.04
17 N_Italian (Dodecad) 23.28
18 Turkish (Dodecad) 24.85
19 Sardinian (HGDP) 25.18
20 Druze (HGDP) 26.05

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 95.9% S_Italian (Dodecad) + 4.1% Mozabite (HGDP) @ 4.8
2 95.9% S_Italian (Dodecad) + 4.1% Mozabite (Henn) @ 4.8
3 93.1% S_Italian (Dodecad) + 6.9% TUNISIA (Henn) @ 5.04
4 94.7% S_Italian (Dodecad) + 5.3% Moroccans (Behar) @ 5.27
5 93.6% S_Italian (Dodecad) + 6.4% North_African (Dodecad) @ 5.33
6 93.8% S_Italian (Dodecad) + 6.2% Morocco_N (Henn) @ 5.36
7 93.1% S_Italian (Dodecad) + 6.9% Sardinian (HGDP) @ 5.53
8 94.6% S_Italian (Dodecad) + 5.4% Portuguese (Dodecad) @ 5.55
9 96.6% S_Italian (Dodecad) + 3.4% Sahara_OCC (Henn) @ 5.6
10 95.1% S_Italian (Dodecad) + 4.9% IBS (1000Genomes) @ 5.6
11 95.8% S_Italian (Dodecad) + 4.2% Algeria (Henn) @ 5.61
12 95.5% S_Italian (Dodecad) + 4.5% Spanish (Dodecad) @ 5.62
13 97% S_Italian (Dodecad) + 3% Morocco_S (Henn) @ 5.63
14 95.9% S_Italian (Dodecad) + 4.1% Spaniards (Behar) @ 5.65
15 94.7% S_Italian (Dodecad) + 5.3% North_Italian (HGDP) @ 5.69
16 97.3% S_Italian (Dodecad) + 2.7% French_Basque (HGDP) @ 5.71
17 93.2% S_Italian (Dodecad) + 6.8% Tuscan (HGDP) @ 5.73
18 97% S_Italian (Dodecad) + 3% N_Italian (Dodecad) @ 5.78
19 99.5% S_Italian (Dodecad) + 0.5% MbutiPygmy (Henn) @ 5.79
20 99.5% S_Italian (Dodecad) + 0.5% Mbuti_Pygmies (HGDP) @ 5.79




# Population Percent
1 Atlantic_Med 42.97
2 Caucasus 35.18
3 Southwest_Asian 12.5
4 North_European 3.66
5 Northwest_African 3.37
6 Sub_Saharan 0.84
7 Gedrosia 0.74
8 Siberian 0.74

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Sicilian (Dodecad) 14.8
2 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 15.09
3 C_Italian (Dodecad) 15.7
4 Tuscan (HGDP) 16.75
5 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 16.89
6 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 17.03
7 TSI30 (Metspalu) 17.38
8 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 18.49
9 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 19.32
10 O_Italian (Dodecad) 20.96
11 Greek (Dodecad) 21.15
12 North_Italian (HGDP) 21.49
13 N_Italian (Dodecad) 23.03
14 Cypriots (Behar) 25.41
15 Baleares (1000Genomes) 27.54
16 Andalucia (1000Genomes) 27.58
17 Murcia (1000Genomes) 27.93
18 Canarias (1000Genomes) 27.96
19 Galicia (1000Genomes) 29.53
20 Sardinian (HGDP) 29.6

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 53.9% Cypriots (Behar) + 46.1% Sardinian (HGDP) @ 3.15
2 64% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 36% Sardinian (HGDP) @ 4.44
3 53.3% Sardinian (HGDP) + 46.7% Druze (HGDP) @ 4.83
4 62.2% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) + 37.8% Sardinian (HGDP) @ 5.52
5 61.2% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) + 38.8% Sardinian (HGDP) @ 5.69
6 68.3% Sicilian (Dodecad) + 31.7% Sardinian (HGDP) @ 6.24
7 56.2% Sardinian (HGDP) + 43.8% Samaritians (Behar) @ 6.25
8 52.7% Sardinian (HGDP) + 47.3% Lebanese (Behar) @ 6.37
9 67.9% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 32.1% Sardinian (HGDP) @ 6.38
10 57.7% Sardinian (HGDP) + 42.3% Georgia_Jews (Behar) @ 6.7
11 65.1% Morocco_Jews (Behar) + 34.9% Sardinian (HGDP) @ 6.83
12 57% Sardinian (HGDP) + 43% Armenian (Dodecad) @ 7.52
13 52.6% Sardinian (HGDP) + 47.4% Turkish (Dodecad) @ 7.55
14 57% Sardinian (HGDP) + 43% Iraq_Jews (Behar) @ 7.61
15 57.1% Sardinian (HGDP) + 42.9% Assyrian (Dodecad) @ 7.71
16 57.9% Sardinian (HGDP) + 42.1% Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) @ 7.77
17 58.4% Sardinian (HGDP) + 41.6% Iranian_Jews (Behar) @ 7.84
18 57.3% Sardinian (HGDP) + 42.7% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) @ 7.85
19 54.7% Sardinian (HGDP) + 45.3% Turks (Behar) @ 7.98
20 58.2% Sardinian (HGDP) + 41.8% Armenians (Behar) @ 8.09



PuntDNA:



Population Percent
1 ENF 52.82
2 WHG 27.33
3 CHG 11.77
4 Sub-Saharan 3.94
5 Siberian 2.22
6 Amerindian 1.93

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Sicilian 12.92
2 Sardinian 14.14
3 Italian_South 15.17
4 Tuscan 16.71
5 Sephardic_Jew 17.02
6 Spanish_Southwest 17.58
7 Ashkenazi_Jew 18.29
8 Italian_North 19.08
9 Albanian 19.85
10 Greek 20.34
11 Tunisian 20.76
12 Spanish_Northeast 21.25
13 Moroccan 21.7
14 Cypriot 23.27
15 Bulgarian 25.26
16 French 26.64
17 Jordanian 26.75
18 Lebanese 27.12
19 Egyptian 27.28
20 Algerian 28.16

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 62.1% Spanish_Northeast + 37.9% BedouinB @ 3.67
2 66.6% Spanish_Southwest + 33.4% BedouinB @ 3.68
3 67.4% Sardinian + 32.6% Syrian @ 3.96
4 66.1% Sardinian + 33.9% Jordanian @ 4.11
5 70.1% Sardinian + 29.9% Yemeni @ 4.68
6 55% Basque_Spanish + 45% BedouinB @ 4.77
7 68% Sardinian + 32% Palestinian @ 4.79
8 55.2% Sardinian + 44.8% Sephardic_Jew @ 5.02
9 68.9% Sardinian + 31.1% Saudi @ 5.07
10 67% Sardinian + 33% Lebanese @ 5.36
11 63.5% Sardinian + 36.5% Cypriot @ 5.66
12 67.4% Sardinian + 32.6% Egyptian @ 5.77
13 71.7% Sardinian + 28.3% Assyrian @ 5.89
14 71.9% Sardinian + 28.1% Turkish_Kayseri @ 5.95
15 73.7% Sardinian + 26.3% Iraqi_Jew @ 5.98
16 76.9% Sardinian + 23.1% Iranian @ 6.03
17 74.3% Sardinian + 25.7% Armenian @ 6.14
18 51.1% Egyptian + 48.9% Basque_Spanish @ 6.14
19 52.8% Sicilian + 47.2% Sardinian @ 6.16
20 70.3% Sardinian + 29.7% Turkish_Aydin @ 6.17




# Population Percent
1 SW_Europe 50.84
2 NE_Europe 17.06
3 West_Asia 16.41
4 SW_Asia 11.99
5 Oceania 1.96
6 Americas 1.74

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Italian_Abruzzo 12.66
2 Italian_Tuscan 13.83
3 Italian_Sicilian 14.31
4 Italian_Bergamo 14.99
5 Ashkenazy_Jew 15.15
6 Greek_Thessaly 15.85
7 Albanian 15.86
8 Greek_Central 16.48
9 Kosovar 16.85
10 Sephardic_Jew 17.05
11 Spaniard 18.54
12 Macedonian 20.6
13 Bulgarian 21.09
14 French_Basque 23.24
15 Montenegrin 23.92
16 Puerto_Rican 24.1
17 Romanian 24.24
18 Cypriot 24.63
19 Serbian 25.45
20 French 26.83

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 51.6% French_Basque + 48.4% Cypriot @ 7.45
2 61.4% French_Basque + 38.6% Samaritan_Jew @ 8.33
3 59.4% Sephardic_Jew + 40.6% French_Basque @ 8.58
4 65.4% Italian_Sicilian + 34.6% French_Basque @ 8.67
5 57.9% French_Basque + 42.1% Lebanese_Christian @ 8.77
6 58.7% French_Basque + 41.3% Lebanese_Druze @ 9.17
7 59.5% French_Basque + 40.5% Lebanese_Muslim @ 9.32
8 61.2% French_Basque + 38.8% Turkish_Trabzon @ 9.53
9 58.5% French_Basque + 41.5% Syrian @ 9.57
10 64.4% Ashkenazy_Jew + 35.6% French_Basque @ 9.63
11 62.5% French_Basque + 37.5% Assyrian @ 9.73
12 59.4% French_Basque + 40.6% Jordanian @ 9.8
13 62.1% French_Basque + 37.9% Armenian @ 9.98
14 61.6% French_Basque + 38.4% Palestinian @ 10.25
15 74.3% Italian_Abruzzo + 25.7% French_Basque @ 10.42
16 59.3% Spaniard + 40.7% Cypriot @ 10.49
17 61.3% Italian_Sicilian + 38.7% Spaniard @ 10.6
18 53.4% Sephardic_Jew + 46.6% Spaniard @ 10.95
19 63.8% French_Basque + 36.2% Egyptian_Copts @ 11.01
20 52.7% Italian_Sicilian + 47.3% Italian_Bergamo @ 11.04

[Sp_loa]

Maltese? Italian (South) ?

[Sp_loa]

By any chance Sephardi Jew from latin America/Spain/Former Spanish Morocco/ Balkan-Turkey area?
His MDLP results are kinda similar to mine and if you remove my Berber ancestry (which the group I mentioned above should lack) they would be almost identical.

[donriccardo]

Is that me?

[Lauχum]

Looks like the results for some ancient sample like one of the Mycenaeans or the Sicilian Beaker.

[Sikeliot]

Is that me?

It isn't your result.

[donriccardo]

Can you post mine?

[Sikeliot]

Can you post mine?

I did.

[Sikeliot]

Others?

[gıulıoımpa]

A Molisano?

[Alessio]

Sephardic Jewish would make sense but it could easily be a Southern Italian or Maltese instead, with my first guess going to Western Sicily. I find his Red Sea and East Med on the low side but his West Asian pretty high.

[Alessio]

A Molisano?

Why Molise?

[gıulıoımpa]

Why Molise?

seemed ancient-Balkan influenced in certain aspects ,less in others, more a stone thrown in the lake than anything else haha , we'll see :)

[kleenex]

Ashkenazi from Southern Italy.IDK.

[Teucer]

Probably someone with mixed heritage

[Sikeliot]

Probably someone with mixed heritage

What would you guess the mixture to be?

[Bobby Martnen]

What would you guess the mixture to be?

Half gefilte fish, half lasagna.

[Sikeliot]

Half gefilte fish, half lasagna.

She is a Sicilian woman from year 2500 BC (most likely a Sicanian, with Bell Beaker admixture). The only one of three samples on GEDmatch that is not of incredibly poor quality.

[Bobby Martnen]

She is a Sicilian woman from year 2500 BC (most likely a Sicanian, with Bell Beaker admixture). The only one of three samples on GEDmatch that is not of incredibly poor quality.

Does she match any modern people?

[Raizen]

She is a Sicilian woman from year 2500 BC (most likely a Sicanian, with Bell Beaker admixture). The only one of three samples on GEDmatch that is not of incredibly poor quality.

Looks Sephardic Jew

[Sikeliot]

Does she match any modern people?

No.

[Lauχum]

Ayyy so it was the Sicilian Beaker haha!

[Lauχum]

Yeah it looks like much of the Anatolian/Caucasus affinity in Italy came quite early during the Bronze Age. One of the North Italian Beakers has West Asian admixture as well.

"distance%=3.5368"
Beaker_Northern_Italy:I1979
Anatolia_BA,39.8
Barcin_N,32.6
Beaker_Central_Europe,16.8
WHG,10.8
Levant_BA,0

Anatolia_BA clusters with Cypriots on PCAs

Barcin_N = Anatolian Farmer

WHG = Western Hunter Gatherer aka Mesolithic Western European

Beaker_Central_Europe = steppe rich Bronze Ager who clusters with modern NW Euros.

[Sikeliot]

Yeah it looks like much of the Anatolian/Caucasus affinity in Italy came quite early during the Bronze Age. One of the North Italian Beakers has West Asian admixture as well.

"distance%=3.5368"
Beaker_Northern_Italy:I1979
Anatolia_BA,39.8
Barcin_N,32.6
Beaker_Central_Europe,16.8
WHG,10.8
Levant_BA,0

Anatolia_BA clusters with Cypriots on PCAs

Barcin_N = Anatolian Farmer

WHG = Western Hunter Gatherer aka Mesolithic Western European

Beaker_Central_Europe = steppe rich Bronze Ager who clusters with modern NW Euros.


Yes.

It looks to me like the earliest Sicilians (or those that would have been there before the Phoenicians settled, we might call them "Sicanian") would have been a mixture of Sardinian and Caucasus.

[Lauχum]

Yes.

It looks to me like the earliest Sicilians (or those that would have been there before the Phoenicians settled, we might call them "Sicanian") would have been a mixture of Sardinian and Caucasus.

Yup. The Caucasus ancestry probably came via Anatolia. Sicilian Beakers, Minoans, Neolithic Peloponnese, etc. seem to shift towards Anatolia_BA and Anatolia_Chl on PCA's. Its also just makes sense from a geographical perspective. Here is one of Pre-Kurgan (Pre Indo-European) Europe and Anatolia I made from the Eurogenes scaled Global 25 datasheet.
https://imgur.com/1HVA50V

[Sikeliot]

Yup. The Caucasus ancestry probably came via Anatolia. Sicilian Beakers, Minoans, Neolithic Peloponnese, etc. seem to shift towards Anatolia_BA and Anatolia_Chl on PCA's. Its also just makes sense from a geographical perspective. Here is one of Pre-Kurgan (Pre Indo-European) Europe and Anatolia I made from the Eurogenes scaled Global 25 datasheet.
https://imgur.com/1HVA50V


I think it is fairly clear also from the genetic record that the Sicanians most likely did not, unlike claimed by the ancient Greek writers, originate in Iberia.

[Teucer]

I think it is fairly clear also from the genetic record that the Sicanians most likely did not, unlike claimed by the ancient Greek writers, originate in Iberia.

If the Sicilians were also a Sardinian/Caucasus mix, what makes them any different from the Mycenaeans?

[Lauχum]

If the Sicilians were also a Sardinian/Caucasus mix, what makes them any different from the Mycenaeans?

The Sicilian Beaker didn't have any steppe ancestry. Mycenaeans had a small amount, but on PCA's they cluster similarly regardless.

[Sikeliot]

The Sicilian Beaker didn't have any steppe ancestry. Mycenaeans had a small amount, but on PCA's they cluster similarly regardless.

The other implication of this is that since we know Sicilians started out with no Steppe, we can infer that Sicilians today with higher amounts of Steppe (SE Sicily, Trapani), have the greatest amount of foreign DNA over the millennia.

[Teucer]

The Sicilian Beaker didn't have any steppe ancestry. Mycenaeans had a small amount, but on PCA's they cluster similarly regardless.


The other implication of this is that since we know Sicilians started out with no Steppe, we can infer that Sicilians today with higher amounts of Steppe (SE Sicily, Trapani), have the greatest amount of foreign DNA over the millennia.

So the Sicilians would have been the same as the Minoans genetically? Or did the Minoans have more Caucasus?

[Sikeliot]

So the Sicilians would have been the same as the Minoans genetically? Or did the Minoans have more Caucasus?

They appear to me, as Minoans with a bit less Caucasian.

[Lauχum]

The other implication of this is that since we know Sicilians started out with no Steppe, we can infer that Sicilians today with higher amounts of Steppe (SE Sicily, Trapani), have the greatest amount of foreign DNA over the millennia.

Yeah people often assume northern ancestry only came very early in Italian history but I share your belief that post-Roman era groups such as the Normans and peninsular Italian migrants/settlers in Sicily did have a notable genetic impact on the island. I also think this is true with the Lombards in Northern Italy.

[Sikeliot]

Yeah people often assume northern ancestry only came very early in Italian history but I share your belief that post-Roman era groups such as the Normans and peninsular Italian migrants/settlers in Sicily did have a notable genetic impact on the island. I also think this is true with the Lombards in Northern Italy.

How it looks to me is this:

- Sicily went a very long time without much Steppe input at all, and until the Normans, likely had as little as Cyprus.
- All of Sicily received, on top of their EEF + Caucasus base, about 20-25% historical MENA input.
- Parts of the island received mainland Italian, Norman, and Slavic-admixed mainland Greek input, shifting them north.

So to me, those Messina/Palermo results with under 10% North European, are MORE native, not less.