Am I more...

[Gwydion]

Wasn't sure where to post this but if you are a mix of some sort or straddle different ethnic groups (perhaps being a border population, etc.), feel free to set forth a set of criteria and ask people to determine based on that criteria if you are more one thing or another, such as more German vs. French, more Slavic vs Germanic, Swedish vs Finnish, etc.

To start off, based on paternal origin, the ancestry of my 2x great grandparents, and some top autosomal results, would you say I am more Germanic or Celtic?

Surname Origin: Scottish of Old Norse origin

Paternal Grandparents: (each line is a 2x great grandparent)

Scottish, English
English, very minor Irish
English, some Scottish
Dutch, English, and some Scottish with minor Swedish and German
English, minor Dutch
English, minor Dutch
English, minor Dutch
English, Welsh, minor Dutch and Scottish

Maternal Grandparents:

German (Bad Durkheim)
German (Lohr am Main)
English and Irish
Irish (Northern Ireland)
English, Irish, Dutch, minor German
Irish
Irish
German (Prussia)

Some top autosomal DNA results:

[1,] Argyll_1KG" "3.4087"
1 Orcadian @ 3.551213
1 North_German+Southwest_English @ 2.886441
1 Norwegian @ 4.286704
1 Southwest_English @ 5.013739
1 South_Dutch+Icelandic @ 4.058124
1 Icelandic @ 4.331656
1 Icelandic @ 6.000578
1 Orcadian @ 3.18496

[DarkWater]

More Celtic. But overall very northern. Have you done the K15 Place of Origin Map, or the K36 Heat Map?

https://www.ancestry.com/mediaui-viewer/collection/1030/tree/69395406/person/42196658115/media/396a5216-d57c-4d9e-bf41-edf8a6af17cb?_phsrc=Tea10&usePUBJs=true K15

https://mediasvc.ancestry.com/v2/image/namespaces/1093/media/566aadb8-8722-43b7-a04a-6b909e10c43d.jpg?client=Trees&imageQuality=hq&maxWidth=1349&maxHeight=662 K36

I can get you the links if you want

[Gwydion]

More Celtic. But overall very northern. Have you done the K15 Place of Origin Map, or the K36 Heat Map?

https://www.ancestry.com/mediaui-viewer/collection/1030/tree/69395406/person/42196658115/media/396a5216-d57c-4d9e-bf41-edf8a6af17cb?_phsrc=Tea10&usePUBJs=true K15

https://mediasvc.ancestry.com/v2/image/namespaces/1093/media/566aadb8-8722-43b7-a04a-6b909e10c43d.jpg?client=Trees&imageQuality=hq&maxWidth=1349&maxHeight=662 K36

I can get you the links if you want

Yea on the K36 mapping my highest was Northern Ireland at 91, with 90 across all of Britain, Ireland and Netherlands at 89, and Denmark and Orkney at 87.

On the K15 population mapping, I was slightly above West Scottish tending toward West Norwegian. My father plotted as Southern English and my mom despite her Irish heritage plotted in between North German and Danish, but she often scores Orkney, Iceland, etc. on tests since they lie between Germanic and Gaelic/Celtic.

[DarkWater]

Yea on the K36 mapping my highest was Northern Ireland at 91, with 90 across all of Britain, Ireland and Netherlands at 89, and Denmark and Orkney at 87.

On the K15 population mapping, I was slightly above West Scottish tending toward West Norwegian. My father plotted as Southern English and my mom despite her Irish heritage plotted in between North German and Danish, but she often scores Orkney, Iceland, etc. on tests since they lie between Germanic and Gaelic/Celtic.

Interesting. So do you plot north of both of your parents on K15?

[Gwydion]

Interesting. So do you plot north of both of your parents on K15?

It seems perhaps my father's Anglo/Scottish/Dutch mixed my moms more North/East German + Irish DNA places me there. West Scotland isn't that much more northern than North Germany, Denmark, or Ireland, and the K15 mapping only placed me slightly north of the West Scottish standard.

In any case to my eye combining both known ancestry and DNA data it doesn't seem I am decisively more Celtic or Germanic, which is why I thought I'd ask others.

[DarkWater]

I think you are both, but to me I would say slightly more Celtic. You are more Germanic than most, still. Just my guess