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Sikeliot
08-05-2018, 06:14 PM
Mayo:
# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 49.4
2 Baltic 22.64
3 West_Med 16.03
4 West_Asian 6.56
5 South_Asian 3.27
6 Red_Sea 1.81
7 Amerindian 0.31

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Southwest_English 4.37
2 Irish 5.03
3 Orcadian 5.37
4 West_Scottish 5.52
5 Southeast_English 5.83
6 North_Dutch 6.85
7 Danish 7.24
8 South_Dutch 7.89
9 North_German 8.05
10 Norwegian 8.54
11 West_German 9.5
12 Swedish 10.28
13 French 12.25
14 Austrian 14.46
15 East_German 14.69
16 North_Swedish 15.93
17 Spanish_Cataluna 18.81
18 Southwest_French 18.93
19 Hungarian 19.36
20 Spanish_Cantabria 19.63

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 95.1% Southwest_English + 4.9% Punjabi_Jat @ 3.13
2 95.2% Southwest_English + 4.8% Kalash @ 3.17
3 95.8% Southwest_English + 4.2% Gujarati @ 3.18
4 95.5% Southwest_English + 4.5% Brahmin_UP @ 3.19
5 95.3% Southwest_English + 4.7% Burusho @ 3.2
6 95.8% Southwest_English + 4.2% Kshatriya @ 3.21
7 95.4% Southwest_English + 4.6% Pathan @ 3.25
8 96.1% Southwest_English + 3.9% Dharkar @ 3.25
9 96.2% Southwest_English + 3.8% Kanjar @ 3.26
10 95.8% Southwest_English + 4.2% Sindhi @ 3.27
11 96.4% Southwest_English + 3.6% Kol @ 3.3
12 96% Southwest_English + 4% Bangladeshi @ 3.31
13 96.3% Southwest_English + 3.7% Uttar_Pradesh @ 3.31
14 96.5% Southwest_English + 3.5% Kurumba @ 3.32
15 96.5% Southwest_English + 3.5% North_Kannadi @ 3.32
16 96.5% Southwest_English + 3.5% Dusadh @ 3.32
17 96.5% Southwest_English + 3.5% Velamas @ 3.34
18 96.6% Southwest_English + 3.4% Piramalai @ 3.35
19 96.7% Southwest_English + 3.3% Chamar @ 3.37
20 96.7% Southwest_English + 3.3% Sakilli @ 3.38


Cork:
# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 51.28
2 Baltic 25.39
3 West_Med 12.57
4 West_Asian 6.72
5 South_Asian 1.68
6 Amerindian 1.13
7 East_Med 0.85
8 Oceanian 0.37
9 Red_Sea 0.02

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Irish 1.85
2 Orcadian 2.61
3 West_Scottish 2.98
4 North_Dutch 3.14
5 Danish 3.68
6 Norwegian 4.19
7 Southwest_English 4.66
8 Southeast_English 4.82
9 North_German 5.47
10 Swedish 6.69
11 South_Dutch 9.23
12 West_German 10.28
13 North_Swedish 13.13
14 East_German 14.49
15 Austrian 14.55
16 French 14.85
17 Hungarian 19.15
18 Southwest_Finnish 21.18
19 Spanish_Cataluna 21.88
20 Southwest_French 22.49

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 95.8% Irish + 4.2% Lithuanian @ 1.22
2 95.4% Irish + 4.6% Estonian @ 1.24
3 95.8% Irish + 4.2% Kargopol_Russian @ 1.24
4 95% Irish + 5% Polish @ 1.26
5 96.3% Irish + 3.7% Erzya @ 1.27
6 95.5% Irish + 4.5% Russian_Smolensk @ 1.27
7 95.7% Irish + 4.3% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 1.28
8 95.7% Irish + 4.3% Estonian_Polish @ 1.29
9 95.2% Irish + 4.8% Ukrainian @ 1.29
10 95.8% Irish + 4.2% Southwest_Russian @ 1.31
11 94.8% Irish + 5.2% South_Polish @ 1.32
12 95.7% Irish + 4.3% Belorussian @ 1.32
13 95.2% Irish + 4.8% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 1.33
14 96% Irish + 4% East_Finnish @ 1.35
15 95.5% Irish + 4.5% Finnish @ 1.35
16 94.3% Irish + 5.7% Southwest_Finnish @ 1.35
17 84.4% Irish + 15.6% Swedish @ 1.41
18 91.7% Irish + 8.3% North_Swedish @ 1.43
19 92.7% Irish + 7.3% East_German @ 1.47
20 95.7% Irish + 4.3% Croatian @ 1.49



1/2 Galway, 1/2 Cork:
# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 51.95
2 Baltic 23.75
3 West_Med 10.23
4 West_Asian 8.21
5 East_Med 2.93
6 South_Asian 1.04
7 Amerindian 0.97
8 Red_Sea 0.62
9 Sub-Saharan 0.26
10 Siberian 0.05

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Irish 2.92
2 West_Scottish 3.4
3 North_Dutch 3.6
4 Orcadian 3.87
5 Danish 3.96
6 Norwegian 5.11
7 Southeast_English 5.3
8 North_German 5.52
9 Southwest_English 5.59
10 Swedish 7.89
11 South_Dutch 9.34
12 West_German 10.1
13 North_Swedish 14.31
14 French 14.81
15 Austrian 15.2
16 East_German 15.63
17 Hungarian 19.56
18 Spanish_Cataluna 22.03
19 Southwest_Finnish 22.49
20 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 23.22

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 94.7% West_Scottish + 5.3% Tabassaran @ 1.99
2 94.9% West_Scottish + 5.1% Lezgin @ 2.02
3 95.1% West_Scottish + 4.9% Chechen @ 2.17
4 96.2% Irish + 3.8% Tabassaran @ 2.2
5 96.4% Irish + 3.6% Lezgin @ 2.21
6 96.6% Irish + 3.4% Chechen @ 2.32
7 95.6% West_Scottish + 4.4% Adygei @ 2.32
8 95.7% West_Scottish + 4.3% North_Ossetian @ 2.33
9 95.4% West_Scottish + 4.6% Kumyk @ 2.35
10 97.2% Irish + 2.8% Kurdish @ 2.37
11 97.2% Irish + 2.8% Iranian @ 2.37
12 96.8% Irish + 3.2% Kumyk @ 2.39
13 97% Irish + 3% Adygei @ 2.39
14 97.4% Irish + 2.6% Abhkasian @ 2.39
15 97% Irish + 3% North_Ossetian @ 2.39
16 95.6% West_Scottish + 4.4% Kabardin @ 2.4
17 96.4% West_Scottish + 3.6% Abhkasian @ 2.4
18 97.3% Irish + 2.7% Georgian @ 2.4
19 96.2% West_Scottish + 3.8% Georgian @ 2.4
20 97.1% Irish + 2.9% Azeri @ 2.42


Cork, Kerry, Limerick:
# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 52.03
2 Baltic 22.32
3 West_Med 12.89
4 West_Asian 7.45
5 East_Med 1.69
6 South_Asian 1.54
7 Sub-Saharan 0.73
8 Red_Sea 0.68
9 Oceanian 0.34
10 Amerindian 0.33

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Irish 2.19
2 West_Scottish 2.43
3 Southwest_English 3.26
4 Orcadian 3.35
5 Southeast_English 4.45
6 North_Dutch 4.76
7 Danish 5.32
8 Norwegian 6.63
9 North_German 6.97
10 South_Dutch 8.68
11 Swedish 9.27
12 West_German 9.9
13 French 13.59
14 Austrian 15.66
15 North_Swedish 15.72
16 East_German 16.09
17 Spanish_Cataluna 20.34
18 Hungarian 20.38
19 Southwest_French 21.29
20 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 21.52

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 97.1% West_Scottish + 2.9% Abhkasian @ 1.51
2 97% West_Scottish + 3% Georgian @ 1.51
3 96.7% West_Scottish + 3.3% Ossetian @ 1.51
4 97.3% West_Scottish + 2.7% Brahui @ 1.51
5 97.2% West_Scottish + 2.8% Balochi @ 1.52
6 97.2% West_Scottish + 2.8% Makrani @ 1.52
7 96.8% West_Scottish + 3.2% Adygei @ 1.59
8 96.8% West_Scottish + 3.2% North_Ossetian @ 1.59
9 96.7% West_Scottish + 3.3% Balkar @ 1.6
10 96.6% West_Scottish + 3.4% Chechen @ 1.62
11 96.7% West_Scottish + 3.3% Kabardin @ 1.62
12 96.5% West_Scottish + 3.5% Tabassaran @ 1.64
13 96.7% West_Scottish + 3.3% Lezgin @ 1.66
14 96.7% West_Scottish + 3.3% Kumyk @ 1.67
15 96.9% West_Scottish + 3.1% Afghan_Pashtun @ 1.69
16 97.2% West_Scottish + 2.8% Kalash @ 1.71
17 97.3% West_Scottish + 2.7% Armenian @ 1.71
18 97.2% West_Scottish + 2.8% Kurdish @ 1.71
19 97.3% West_Scottish + 2.7% Iranian @ 1.75
20 97.6% West_Scottish + 2.4% Sindhi @ 1.76


1/2 Kerry, 1/2 Limerick:
# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 49.63
2 Baltic 23.25
3 West_Med 12.9
4 West_Asian 8.31
5 East_Med 2.57
6 South_Asian 1.33
7 Amerindian 0.69
8 Red_Sea 0.58
9 Siberian 0.49
10 Oceanian 0.15
11 Sub-Saharan 0.11

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Irish 3.19
2 Orcadian 3.5
3 West_Scottish 4.01
4 North_Dutch 4.09
5 Southeast_English 4.24
6 Southwest_English 4.36
7 Danish 4.53
8 North_German 5.18
9 Norwegian 6.2
10 South_Dutch 6.96
11 West_German 7.96
12 Swedish 8.34
13 French 12.48
14 Austrian 13.35
15 East_German 13.89
16 North_Swedish 14.43
17 Hungarian 17.99
18 Spanish_Cataluna 19.7
19 Southwest_French 20.83
20 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 20.94

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 94.4% Irish + 5.6% Balkar @ 0.96
2 95.3% Irish + 4.7% Abhkasian @ 0.96
3 95.1% Irish + 4.9% Georgian @ 0.98
4 94.6% Irish + 5.4% Adygei @ 1
5 94.3% Irish + 5.7% Kumyk @ 1.03
6 94.4% Irish + 5.6% Kabardin @ 1.03
7 94.7% Irish + 5.3% Ossetian @ 1.03
8 94.7% Irish + 5.3% North_Ossetian @ 1.05
9 95.2% Irish + 4.8% Armenian @ 1.09
10 94.4% Irish + 5.6% Turkish @ 1.12
11 95.1% Irish + 4.9% Kurdish @ 1.15
12 93% West_Scottish + 7% Kabardin @ 1.15
13 93.2% West_Scottish + 6.8% Adygei @ 1.16
14 94.7% Irish + 5.3% Azeri @ 1.17
15 93.1% West_Scottish + 6.9% Balkar @ 1.2
16 95.3% Irish + 4.7% Georgian_Jewish @ 1.22
17 93.3% West_Scottish + 6.7% North_Ossetian @ 1.22
18 94.4% Irish + 5.6% Chechen @ 1.25
19 95.2% Irish + 4.8% Iranian @ 1.25
20 92.9% West_Scottish + 7.1% Kumyk @ 1.27


Mayo, Sligo, Cork, Tipperary:
# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 51.99
2 Baltic 24.13
3 West_Med 13.77
4 West_Asian 5.25
5 East_Med 1.7
6 South_Asian 1.05
7 Sub-Saharan 0.57
8 Siberian 0.57
9 Oceanian 0.47
10 Red_Sea 0.46
11 Northeast_African 0.04

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Orcadian 1.82
2 Irish 2.14
3 West_Scottish 2.16
4 Southwest_English 2.52
5 Southeast_English 3.52
6 North_Dutch 3.87
7 Danish 4.58
8 Norwegian 5.52
9 North_German 6.62
10 Swedish 8.05
11 South_Dutch 8.53
12 West_German 9.95
13 French 13.7
14 North_Swedish 14.29
15 Austrian 15.05
16 East_German 15.19
17 Hungarian 19.84
18 Spanish_Cataluna 20.39
19 Southwest_French 20.94
20 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 21.54

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 70.5% Southwest_English + 29.5% Norwegian @ 1.13
2 78.3% Southwest_English + 21.7% Swedish @ 1.23
3 63.3% Orcadian + 36.7% Southwest_English @ 1.32
4 57.1% Irish + 42.9% Southwest_English @ 1.49
5 87.5% Southwest_English + 12.5% North_Swedish @ 1.49
6 63.8% Southwest_English + 36.2% North_Dutch @ 1.52
7 96.5% Orcadian + 3.5% French_Basque @ 1.55
8 68.6% Southwest_English + 31.4% Danish @ 1.59
9 63.6% Orcadian + 36.4% West_Scottish @ 1.62
10 64.2% Orcadian + 35.8% Irish @ 1.65
11 92.2% Southwest_English + 7.8% Southwest_Finnish @ 1.67
12 58.1% West_Scottish + 41.9% Southwest_English @ 1.67
13 91.7% West_Scottish + 8.3% East_German @ 1.68
14 93.7% Southwest_English + 6.3% Finnish @ 1.68
15 83.1% Norwegian + 16.9% French_Basque @ 1.69
16 92.1% West_Scottish + 7.9% Austrian @ 1.74
17 94.5% Southwest_English + 5.5% East_Finnish @ 1.75
18 94.2% Southwest_English + 5.8% Estonian @ 1.75
19 94.4% Irish + 5.6% Southwest_French @ 1.75
20 97.8% Orcadian + 2.2% Southwest_French @ 1.75


Tipperary:
# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 50.7
2 Baltic 22.99
3 West_Med 14.25
4 West_Asian 4.88
5 Red_Sea 3.14
6 South_Asian 1.66
7 East_Med 1.14
8 Amerindian 0.88
9 Oceanian 0.37

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Southwest_English 3.14
2 Irish 3.48
3 West_Scottish 3.66
4 Orcadian 3.75
5 Southeast_English 4.51
6 North_Dutch 5.22
7 Danish 5.97
8 Norwegian 7.02
9 North_German 7.25
10 South_Dutch 8
11 Swedish 9.16
12 West_German 9.59
13 French 12.57
14 Austrian 14.78
15 North_Swedish 15.03
16 East_German 15.06
17 Spanish_Cataluna 19.46
18 Hungarian 19.6
19 Southwest_French 19.88
20 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 20.33

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 89.1% Irish + 10.9% Spanish_Galicia @ 2.44
2 89.2% Irish + 10.8% Southwest_French @ 2.53
3 89.5% Irish + 10.5% Spanish_Cantabria @ 2.54
4 90.7% Irish + 9.3% Spanish_Extremadura @ 2.6
5 97.1% Southwest_English + 2.9% MA-1 @ 2.61
6 89.8% Irish + 10.2% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 2.61
7 95.6% Irish + 4.4% Sardinian @ 2.63
8 90.6% Irish + 9.4% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 2.64
9 90.3% Irish + 9.7% Portuguese @ 2.65
10 90.8% Irish + 9.2% Spanish_Aragon @ 2.65
11 89% West_Scottish + 11% Spanish_Galicia @ 2.66
12 95.9% Irish + 4.1% Moroccan @ 2.67
13 91.1% Irish + 8.9% Spanish_Murcia @ 2.73
14 85.1% Irish + 14.9% French @ 2.73
15 95.5% West_Scottish + 4.5% Moroccan @ 2.73
16 91.9% Irish + 8.1% Spanish_Andalucia @ 2.76
17 96.1% Irish + 3.9% Mozabite_Berber @ 2.76
18 95.5% Southwest_English + 4.5% East_Finnish @ 2.76
19 95.7% Southwest_English + 4.3% Kargopol_Russian @ 2.77
20 90.9% Southwest_English + 9.1% North_Swedish @ 2.77


Meath, Cavan:
# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 51.84
2 Baltic 21.49
3 West_Med 12.75
4 West_Asian 8.62
5 East_Med 2.52
6 South_Asian 1.78
7 Oceanian 0.99

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Irish 3.61
2 West_Scottish 3.79
3 Southwest_English 4.1
4 Orcadian 4.49
5 Southeast_English 4.87
6 North_Dutch 5.59
7 Danish 6.01
8 North_German 7.36
9 Norwegian 7.64
10 South_Dutch 8.61
11 West_German 9.59
12 Swedish 10.16
13 French 13.31
14 Austrian 15.75
15 East_German 16.39
16 North_Swedish 16.5
17 Spanish_Cataluna 19.98
18 Hungarian 20.39
19 Southwest_French 21.22
20 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 21.28

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 95.4% West_Scottish + 4.6% Abhkasian @ 2.27
2 95.2% West_Scottish + 4.8% Georgian @ 2.3
3 94.8% West_Scottish + 5.2% Ossetian @ 2.34
4 95.9% West_Scottish + 4.1% Brahui @ 2.44
5 95.8% West_Scottish + 4.2% Balochi @ 2.45
6 95.8% West_Scottish + 4.2% Makrani @ 2.46
7 94.9% West_Scottish + 5.1% Adygei @ 2.47
8 95% West_Scottish + 5% North_Ossetian @ 2.47
9 94.9% West_Scottish + 5.1% Balkar @ 2.48
10 94.7% West_Scottish + 5.3% Chechen @ 2.5
11 94.5% West_Scottish + 5.5% Tabassaran @ 2.52
12 94.7% West_Scottish + 5.3% Lezgin @ 2.52
13 95.5% West_Scottish + 4.5% Armenian @ 2.54
14 95.4% West_Scottish + 4.6% Kurdish @ 2.55
15 94.9% West_Scottish + 5.1% Kabardin @ 2.56
16 94.8% West_Scottish + 5.2% Kumyk @ 2.57
17 95.2% West_Scottish + 4.8% Azeri @ 2.66
18 95.6% West_Scottish + 4.4% Iranian @ 2.66
19 95.2% West_Scottish + 4.8% Afghan_Pashtun @ 2.67
20 95.1% West_Scottish + 4.9% Turkish @ 2.71


Wexford, Wicklow, Dublin:
# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 48.14
2 Baltic 24.43
3 West_Med 15.79
4 West_Asian 6.61
5 South_Asian 1.93
6 East_Med 1.67
7 Amerindian 0.6
8 Red_Sea 0.55
9 Oceanian 0.28

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Orcadian 4.49
2 Southwest_English 4.49
3 Southeast_English 4.57
4 Irish 4.8
5 North_Dutch 5.4
6 West_Scottish 5.62
7 Danish 5.81
8 North_German 6.12
9 South_Dutch 6.3
10 Norwegian 7.22
11 West_German 7.67
12 Swedish 8.61
13 French 11.58
14 Austrian 12.18
15 East_German 12.38
16 North_Swedish 14.15
17 Hungarian 17.1
18 Spanish_Cataluna 18.52
19 Southwest_French 18.89
20 Spanish_Cantabria 19.66

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 86.4% Southwest_English + 13.6% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.39
2 76.3% Southwest_English + 23.7% East_German @ 2.44
3 86.9% Southwest_English + 13.1% Ukrainian @ 2.47
4 85.4% Southwest_English + 14.6% Croatian @ 2.49
5 81.9% North_German + 18.1% French_Basque @ 2.52
6 86.3% Southwest_English + 13.7% Moldavian @ 2.53
7 88.8% Southwest_English + 11.2% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.57
8 90.4% Southwest_English + 9.6% Erzya @ 2.58
9 86% Southwest_English + 14% South_Polish @ 2.6
10 89.5% Southwest_English + 10.5% Kargopol_Russian @ 2.63
11 87.2% Southwest_English + 12.8% Polish @ 2.65
12 88.9% Southwest_English + 11.1% Southwest_Russian @ 2.68
13 88.7% Southwest_English + 11.3% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.7
14 76.9% Southwest_English + 23.1% Austrian @ 2.72
15 89.2% Southwest_English + 10.8% Estonian_Polish @ 2.81
16 82.9% Southwest_English + 17.1% Hungarian @ 2.85
17 90.3% Southwest_English + 9.7% Lithuanian @ 2.92
18 92.6% Irish + 7.4% Sardinian @ 2.94
19 89.5% Southwest_English + 10.5% Belorussian @ 2.97
20 90.8% Southwest_English + 9.2% Tatar @ 2.98


Dublin:
# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 54.22
2 Baltic 21.29
3 West_Med 12.89
4 West_Asian 6.22
5 East_Med 2.6
6 Red_Sea 1.25
7 South_Asian 1
8 Siberian 0.47
9 Northeast_African 0.04
10 Amerindian 0.02

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 West_Scottish 2.54
2 Southwest_English 3.24
3 Irish 3.45
4 Orcadian 4.2
5 Southeast_English 4.86
6 North_Dutch 5.98
7 Danish 6.57
8 Norwegian 7.7
9 North_German 8.67
10 South_Dutch 9.69
11 Swedish 10.73
12 West_German 11.12
13 French 13.99
14 North_Swedish 17.06
15 Austrian 17.37
16 East_German 17.91
17 Spanish_Cataluna 20.38
18 Southwest_French 21.31
19 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 21.46
20 Spanish_Cantabria 21.7

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 94.7% West_Scottish + 5.3% French_Basque @ 2.12
2 94.8% West_Scottish + 5.2% Spanish_Aragon @ 2.2
3 95.2% West_Scottish + 4.8% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 2.27
4 95.7% West_Scottish + 4.3% Spanish_Andalucia @ 2.28
5 95.4% West_Scottish + 4.6% Spanish_Murcia @ 2.29
6 95.1% West_Scottish + 4.9% Spanish_Cataluna @ 2.32
7 95.7% West_Scottish + 4.3% Spanish_Valencia @ 2.32
8 95.4% West_Scottish + 4.6% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 2.32
9 95.9% West_Scottish + 4.1% Spanish_Extremadura @ 2.33
10 69.2% West_Scottish + 30.8% Southwest_English @ 2.33
11 95.6% West_Scottish + 4.4% Spanish_Cantabria @ 2.34
12 96.1% West_Scottish + 3.9% Portuguese @ 2.37
13 96.1% West_Scottish + 3.9% Southwest_French @ 2.39
14 96.2% West_Scottish + 3.8% Spanish_Galicia @ 2.39
15 98.5% West_Scottish + 1.5% Sardinian @ 2.41
16 98.5% West_Scottish + 1.5% Sephardic_Jewish @ 2.42
17 94.9% West_Scottish + 5.1% French @ 2.43
18 97.4% West_Scottish + 2.6% North_Italian @ 2.43
19 97.9% West_Scottish + 2.1% Tuscan @ 2.43
20 98.6% West_Scottish + 1.4% Italian_Jewish @ 2.44

Grace O'Malley
08-06-2018, 02:02 AM
They are all very similar. Any of those populations crop up in Irish Gedmatch results.

My Gedmatch is similar to the above.

My K13

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 51.71
2 Baltic 25.4
3 West_Med 9.97
4 West_Asian 7.3
5 Red_Sea 1.77
6 East_Med 1.61
7 Amerindian 1.28
8 Siberian 0.73
9 Oceanian 0.22

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 North_Dutch 2.93
2 Irish 3.11
3 Norwegian 3.54
4 West_Scottish 3.71
5 Danish 3.82
6 Orcadian 3.83
7 North_German 5.25
8 Southeast_English 6.1
9 Southwest_English 6.24
10 Swedish 6.33
11 South_Dutch 10.06
12 West_German 10.9
13 North_Swedish 12.64
14 Austrian 15.02
15 East_German 15.17
16 French 15.76
17 Hungarian 19.31
18 Southwest_Finnish 20.89
19 Spanish_Cataluna 23.16
20 South_Polish 23.9

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 56% Irish + 44% Norwegian @ 2.24
2 52.1% Norwegian + 47.9% West_Scottish @ 2.36
3 75.3% Irish + 24.7% Swedish @ 2.45
4 54.8% North_Dutch + 45.2% Irish @ 2.5
5 87.1% Irish + 12.9% North_Swedish @ 2.51
6 68.2% West_Scottish + 31.8% Swedish @ 2.55
7 93.7% Irish + 6.3% Finnish @ 2.56
8 65.8% North_Dutch + 34.2% West_Scottish @ 2.58
9 94.7% Irish + 5.3% East_Finnish @ 2.61
10 92.5% Irish + 7.5% Southwest_Finnish @ 2.62
11 94.1% Irish + 5.9% La_Brana-1 @ 2.62
12 96.2% Irish + 3.8% Chuvash @ 2.63
13 73.3% Irish + 26.7% North_German @ 2.63
14 95.8% Irish + 4.2% Erzya @ 2.68
15 94.7% Irish + 5.3% Estonian @ 2.68
16 63.8% West_Scottish + 36.2% North_German @ 2.69
17 96.7% Irish + 3.3% Mari @ 2.69
18 95.2% Irish + 4.8% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.72
19 95.1% Irish + 4.9% Belorussian @ 2.72
20 83% West_Scottish + 17% North_Swedish @ 2.72

celticdragongod
08-06-2018, 03:46 AM
Mine (50% Cavan, 50% Monaghan):

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 50.06
2 Baltic 25.58
3 West_Med 12.24
4 West_Asian 6.16
5 East_Med 3.27
6 South_Asian 1.18
7 Siberian 0.87
8 Oceanian 0.31
9 Amerindian 0.23
10 Red_Sea 0.05
11 Northeast_African 0.03
12 Sub-Saharan 0.01

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 North_Dutch 1.87
2 Orcadian 2.13
3 Danish 2.18
4 Irish 3.17
5 Southeast_English 3.52
6 West_Scottish 3.8
7 North_German 3.83
8 Norwegian 3.99
9 Southwest_English 4.69
10 Swedish 6.14
11 South_Dutch 7.46
12 West_German 8.43
13 North_Swedish 12.24
14 Austrian 12.83
15 East_German 13
16 French 13.45
17 Hungarian 17.39
18 Southwest_Finnish 20.22
19 Spanish_Cataluna 20.73
20 Southwest_French 21.77

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 66.1% Orcadian + 33.9% North_German @ 0.95
2 94% Danish + 6% French_Basque @ 1.25
3 50.9% Orcadian + 49.1% Danish @ 1.28
4 72% Danish + 28% Southwest_English @ 1.3
5 94.5% Orcadian + 5.5% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 1.31
6 93.1% Orcadian + 6.9% South_Polish @ 1.33
7 86.3% West_Scottish + 13.7% South_Polish @ 1.35
8 94.5% North_Dutch + 5.5% Southwest_French @ 1.37
9 94.6% Orcadian + 5.4% Southwest_Russian @ 1.37
10 91.4% Orcadian + 8.6% Hungarian @ 1.37
11 88.7% Orcadian + 11.3% Austrian @ 1.38
12 56.3% North_Dutch + 43.7% Orcadian @ 1.38
13 95.7% North_Dutch + 4.3% French_Basque @ 1.39
14 93.4% Orcadian + 6.6% Croatian @ 1.4
15 78.5% West_Scottish + 21.5% East_German @ 1.4
16 88.9% Orcadian + 11.1% East_German @ 1.4
17 83.1% West_Scottish + 16.9% Hungarian @ 1.4
18 95.4% North_Dutch + 4.6% Spanish_Andalucia @ 1.4
19 72.5% North_Dutch + 27.5% Southeast_English @ 1.41
20 97.6% North_Dutch + 2.4% Sardinian @ 1.41

Grace O'Malley
08-06-2018, 04:03 AM
Mine (50% Cavan, 50% Monaghan):

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 50.06
2 Baltic 25.58
3 West_Med 12.24
4 West_Asian 6.16
5 East_Med 3.27
6 South_Asian 1.18
7 Siberian 0.87
8 Oceanian 0.31
9 Amerindian 0.23
10 Red_Sea 0.05
11 Northeast_African 0.03
12 Sub-Saharan 0.01

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 North_Dutch 1.87
2 Orcadian 2.13
3 Danish 2.18
4 Irish 3.17
5 Southeast_English 3.52
6 West_Scottish 3.8
7 North_German 3.83
8 Norwegian 3.99
9 Southwest_English 4.69
10 Swedish 6.14
11 South_Dutch 7.46
12 West_German 8.43
13 North_Swedish 12.24
14 Austrian 12.83
15 East_German 13
16 French 13.45
17 Hungarian 17.39
18 Southwest_Finnish 20.22
19 Spanish_Cataluna 20.73
20 Southwest_French 21.77

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 66.1% Orcadian + 33.9% North_German @ 0.95
2 94% Danish + 6% French_Basque @ 1.25
3 50.9% Orcadian + 49.1% Danish @ 1.28
4 72% Danish + 28% Southwest_English @ 1.3
5 94.5% Orcadian + 5.5% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 1.31
6 93.1% Orcadian + 6.9% South_Polish @ 1.33
7 86.3% West_Scottish + 13.7% South_Polish @ 1.35
8 94.5% North_Dutch + 5.5% Southwest_French @ 1.37
9 94.6% Orcadian + 5.4% Southwest_Russian @ 1.37
10 91.4% Orcadian + 8.6% Hungarian @ 1.37
11 88.7% Orcadian + 11.3% Austrian @ 1.38
12 56.3% North_Dutch + 43.7% Orcadian @ 1.38
13 95.7% North_Dutch + 4.3% French_Basque @ 1.39
14 93.4% Orcadian + 6.6% Croatian @ 1.4
15 78.5% West_Scottish + 21.5% East_German @ 1.4
16 88.9% Orcadian + 11.1% East_German @ 1.4
17 83.1% West_Scottish + 16.9% Hungarian @ 1.4
18 95.4% North_Dutch + 4.6% Spanish_Andalucia @ 1.4
19 72.5% North_Dutch + 27.5% Southeast_English @ 1.41
20 97.6% North_Dutch + 2.4% Sardinian @ 1.41

Interesting with you that you get Danish first while I get Norwegian. Not that it means anything really. You're results are fairly typical for Irish so thanks for posting.

I've noticed with Irish the top populations are either Irish, Orcadian, West Scots, English (either southwest or southeast). In no particular order. I have seen Irish get West Norwegian or Danish as their no 1 but the ones I listed are the most common.

Bobby Martnen
08-11-2018, 05:25 AM
Mayo:


My great-great-grandfather was from here.

Imperator Biff
08-11-2018, 08:06 AM
WE WUZ ANGLOZ N SHIETT

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 52.24
2 Baltic 20.98
3 West_Med 15.40
4 West_Asian 6.89
5 South_Asian 1.39
6 East_Med 1.29


Finished reading population data. 204 populations found.
13 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Southwest_English @ 3.009531
2 West_Scottish @ 4.331005
3 Irish @ 4.410344
4 Orcadian @ 5.108810
5 Southeast_English @ 5.548838
6 North_Dutch @ 7.605917
7 Danish @ 8.275025
8 Norwegian @ 9.630879
9 South_Dutch @ 10.048216
10 North_German @ 10.100066
11 West_German @ 11.786963
12 Swedish @ 12.575728
13 French @ 14.689008
14 Austrian @ 18.902933
15 East_German @ 19.401115
16 North_Swedish @ 19.564892
17 Spanish_Cataluna @ 21.514776
18 Southwest_French @ 21.770809
19 Spanish_Cantabria @ 22.472088
20 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 22.801083

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Southwest_English +50% Southwest_English @ 3.009531


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Southwest_English +25% Southwest_English +25% Southwest_English @ 3.009531


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++
1 Irish + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 2.953122
2 Southwest_English + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 3.009531
3 Southwest_English + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + West_Scottish @ 3.010168
4 Irish + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + West_Scottish @ 3.221555
5 Irish + Irish + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 3.221643
6 Southwest_English + Southwest_English + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.274117
7 Orcadian + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 3.279593
8 French_Basque + Irish + Norwegian + Norwegian @ 3.314209
9 French_Basque + Irish + Irish + Norwegian @ 3.375575
10 Danish + French_Basque + Irish + Norwegian @ 3.385579
11 French_Basque + Norwegian + Norwegian + West_Scottish @ 3.392059
12 French_Basque + Irish + Irish + Swedish @ 3.419992
13 French_Basque + Irish + North_Dutch + Norwegian @ 3.449534
14 Irish + Orcadian + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 3.455533
15 Orcadian + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + West_Scottish @ 3.467407
16 Danish + French_Basque + Norwegian + West_Scottish @ 3.483258
17 French_Basque + Irish + North_German + Norwegian @ 3.487886
18 French_Basque + Irish + Swedish + West_Scottish @ 3.488465
19 Irish + Southeast_English + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 3.496135
20 Southeast_English + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 3.507418

Iloko
08-11-2018, 08:24 AM
"Baltic" is EasternEuropean-like right? 22% seems quite substantial.

Sora
08-11-2018, 08:31 AM
They're Northwestern European with 10% Non-European(West Asian, South Asian, Red Sea). It doesn't matter while they're 100% White.

And where the non-European components come from?

oszkar07
08-11-2018, 10:03 AM
They are all very similar. Any of those populations crop up in Irish Gedmatch results.

My Gedmatch is similar to the above.

My K13

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 51.71
2 Baltic 25.4
3 West_Med 9.97
4 West_Asian 7.3
5 Red_Sea 1.77
6 East_Med 1.61
7 Amerindian 1.28
8 Siberian 0.73
9 Oceanian 0.22

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 North_Dutch 2.93
2 Irish 3.11
3 Norwegian 3.54
4 West_Scottish 3.71
5 Danish 3.82
6 Orcadian 3.83
7 North_German 5.25
8 Southeast_English 6.1
9 Southwest_English 6.24
10 Swedish 6.33
11 South_Dutch 10.06
12 West_German 10.9
13 North_Swedish 12.64
14 Austrian 15.02
15 East_German 15.17
16 French 15.76
17 Hungarian 19.31
18 Southwest_Finnish 20.89
19 Spanish_Cataluna 23.16
20 South_Polish 23.9

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 56% Irish + 44% Norwegian @ 2.24
2 52.1% Norwegian + 47.9% West_Scottish @ 2.36
3 75.3% Irish + 24.7% Swedish @ 2.45
4 54.8% North_Dutch + 45.2% Irish @ 2.5
5 87.1% Irish + 12.9% North_Swedish @ 2.51
6 68.2% West_Scottish + 31.8% Swedish @ 2.55
7 93.7% Irish + 6.3% Finnish @ 2.56
8 65.8% North_Dutch + 34.2% West_Scottish @ 2.58
9 94.7% Irish + 5.3% East_Finnish @ 2.61
10 92.5% Irish + 7.5% Southwest_Finnish @ 2.62
11 94.1% Irish + 5.9% La_Brana-1 @ 2.62
12 96.2% Irish + 3.8% Chuvash @ 2.63
13 73.3% Irish + 26.7% North_German @ 2.63
14 95.8% Irish + 4.2% Erzya @ 2.68
15 94.7% Irish + 5.3% Estonian @ 2.68
16 63.8% West_Scottish + 36.2% North_German @ 2.69
17 96.7% Irish + 3.3% Mari @ 2.69
18 95.2% Irish + 4.8% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.72
19 95.1% Irish + 4.9% Belorussian @ 2.72
20 83% West_Scottish + 17% North_Swedish @ 2.72

Interesting that many of them get some Red Sea , the highest I saw was between 3 to 4 , I think its like a middle east type component , wouldnt expect it in Celts.

oszkar07
08-11-2018, 10:06 AM
"Baltic" is EasternEuropean-like right? 22% seems quite substantial.

Im guessing possibly from Norse/Norwegian Viking input.

Im half British and half Hungarian and I get 31% Baltic , but the highest I saw in the above list was around 25%.

just checked the K13 spreadsheet ...

avg Baltic % for Irish is 24.02.

Norwegian Baltic avg is 28.61.

Southwest English Baltic avg is 23.27.

Hungarian Baltic avg is 31.85.

oszkar07
08-11-2018, 10:33 AM
They're Northwestern European with 10% Non-European(West Asian, South Asian, Red Sea). It doesn't matter while they're 100% White.

And where the non-European components come from?

True, even one of them gets 1. something south asian , one thing thats consistant with all the above kits is they dont really get much East Med, none get more than max 2 or 3 %, comparitively as a Half Hungarian half Brit I get 8.99 % East Med.

Sikeliot
08-11-2018, 11:46 AM
WE WUZ ANGLOZ N SHIETT

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 52.24
2 Baltic 20.98
3 West_Med 15.40
4 West_Asian 6.89
5 South_Asian 1.39
6 East_Med 1.29


Finished reading population data. 204 populations found.
13 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Southwest_English @ 3.009531
2 West_Scottish @ 4.331005
3 Irish @ 4.410344
4 Orcadian @ 5.108810
5 Southeast_English @ 5.548838
6 North_Dutch @ 7.605917
7 Danish @ 8.275025
8 Norwegian @ 9.630879
9 South_Dutch @ 10.048216
10 North_German @ 10.100066
11 West_German @ 11.786963
12 Swedish @ 12.575728
13 French @ 14.689008
14 Austrian @ 18.902933
15 East_German @ 19.401115
16 North_Swedish @ 19.564892
17 Spanish_Cataluna @ 21.514776
18 Southwest_French @ 21.770809
19 Spanish_Cantabria @ 22.472088
20 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 22.801083

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Southwest_English +50% Southwest_English @ 3.009531


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Southwest_English +25% Southwest_English +25% Southwest_English @ 3.009531


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++
1 Irish + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 2.953122
2 Southwest_English + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 3.009531
3 Southwest_English + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + West_Scottish @ 3.010168
4 Irish + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + West_Scottish @ 3.221555
5 Irish + Irish + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 3.221643
6 Southwest_English + Southwest_English + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.274117
7 Orcadian + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 3.279593
8 French_Basque + Irish + Norwegian + Norwegian @ 3.314209
9 French_Basque + Irish + Irish + Norwegian @ 3.375575
10 Danish + French_Basque + Irish + Norwegian @ 3.385579
11 French_Basque + Norwegian + Norwegian + West_Scottish @ 3.392059
12 French_Basque + Irish + Irish + Swedish @ 3.419992
13 French_Basque + Irish + North_Dutch + Norwegian @ 3.449534
14 Irish + Orcadian + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 3.455533
15 Orcadian + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + West_Scottish @ 3.467407
16 Danish + French_Basque + Norwegian + West_Scottish @ 3.483258
17 French_Basque + Irish + North_German + Norwegian @ 3.487886
18 French_Basque + Irish + Swedish + West_Scottish @ 3.488465
19 Irish + Southeast_English + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 3.496135
20 Southeast_English + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 3.507418



What part of Ireland is this result from?

Sikeliot
08-11-2018, 11:47 AM
WE WUZ ANGLOZ N SHIETT

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 52.24
2 Baltic 20.98
3 West_Med 15.40
4 West_Asian 6.89
5 South_Asian 1.39
6 East_Med 1.29


Finished reading population data. 204 populations found.
13 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Southwest_English @ 3.009531
2 West_Scottish @ 4.331005
3 Irish @ 4.410344
4 Orcadian @ 5.108810
5 Southeast_English @ 5.548838
6 North_Dutch @ 7.605917
7 Danish @ 8.275025
8 Norwegian @ 9.630879
9 South_Dutch @ 10.048216
10 North_German @ 10.100066
11 West_German @ 11.786963
12 Swedish @ 12.575728
13 French @ 14.689008
14 Austrian @ 18.902933
15 East_German @ 19.401115
16 North_Swedish @ 19.564892
17 Spanish_Cataluna @ 21.514776
18 Southwest_French @ 21.770809
19 Spanish_Cantabria @ 22.472088
20 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 22.801083

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Southwest_English +50% Southwest_English @ 3.009531


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Southwest_English +25% Southwest_English +25% Southwest_English @ 3.009531


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++
1 Irish + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 2.953122
2 Southwest_English + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 3.009531
3 Southwest_English + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + West_Scottish @ 3.010168
4 Irish + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + West_Scottish @ 3.221555
5 Irish + Irish + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 3.221643
6 Southwest_English + Southwest_English + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.274117
7 Orcadian + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 3.279593
8 French_Basque + Irish + Norwegian + Norwegian @ 3.314209
9 French_Basque + Irish + Irish + Norwegian @ 3.375575
10 Danish + French_Basque + Irish + Norwegian @ 3.385579
11 French_Basque + Norwegian + Norwegian + West_Scottish @ 3.392059
12 French_Basque + Irish + Irish + Swedish @ 3.419992
13 French_Basque + Irish + North_Dutch + Norwegian @ 3.449534
14 Irish + Orcadian + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 3.455533
15 Orcadian + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + West_Scottish @ 3.467407
16 Danish + French_Basque + Norwegian + West_Scottish @ 3.483258
17 French_Basque + Irish + North_German + Norwegian @ 3.487886
18 French_Basque + Irish + Swedish + West_Scottish @ 3.488465
19 Irish + Southeast_English + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 3.496135
20 Southeast_English + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 3.507418


What part of Ireland is that result from?

Peterski
08-11-2018, 12:03 PM
WE WUZ ANGLOZ N SHIETT

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 52.24
2 Baltic 20.98
3 West_Med 15.40
4 West_Asian 6.89
5 South_Asian 1.39
6 East_Med 1.29


Finished reading population data. 204 populations found.
13 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Southwest_English @ 3.009531
2 West_Scottish @ 4.331005
3 Irish @ 4.410344
4 Orcadian @ 5.108810
5 Southeast_English @ 5.548838
6 North_Dutch @ 7.605917
7 Danish @ 8.275025
8 Norwegian @ 9.630879
9 South_Dutch @ 10.048216
10 North_German @ 10.100066
11 West_German @ 11.786963
12 Swedish @ 12.575728
13 French @ 14.689008
14 Austrian @ 18.902933
15 East_German @ 19.401115
16 North_Swedish @ 19.564892
17 Spanish_Cataluna @ 21.514776
18 Southwest_French @ 21.770809
19 Spanish_Cantabria @ 22.472088
20 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 22.801083

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Southwest_English +50% Southwest_English @ 3.009531


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Southwest_English +25% Southwest_English +25% Southwest_English @ 3.009531


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++
1 Irish + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 2.953122
2 Southwest_English + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 3.009531
3 Southwest_English + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + West_Scottish @ 3.010168
4 Irish + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + West_Scottish @ 3.221555
5 Irish + Irish + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 3.221643
6 Southwest_English + Southwest_English + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.274117
7 Orcadian + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 3.279593
8 French_Basque + Irish + Norwegian + Norwegian @ 3.314209
9 French_Basque + Irish + Irish + Norwegian @ 3.375575
10 Danish + French_Basque + Irish + Norwegian @ 3.385579
11 French_Basque + Norwegian + Norwegian + West_Scottish @ 3.392059
12 French_Basque + Irish + Irish + Swedish @ 3.419992
13 French_Basque + Irish + North_Dutch + Norwegian @ 3.449534
14 Irish + Orcadian + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 3.455533
15 Orcadian + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + West_Scottish @ 3.467407
16 Danish + French_Basque + Norwegian + West_Scottish @ 3.483258
17 French_Basque + Irish + North_German + Norwegian @ 3.487886
18 French_Basque + Irish + Swedish + West_Scottish @ 3.488465
19 Irish + Southeast_English + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 3.496135
20 Southeast_English + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 3.507418

Southwest English = Cornwall

celticdragongod
08-11-2018, 12:06 PM
Southwest English = Cornwall

One of the more Celtic parts of Britain.

Grace O'Malley
08-11-2018, 01:11 PM
They're Northwestern European with 10% Non-European(West Asian, South Asian, Red Sea). It doesn't matter while they're 100% White.

And where the non-European components come from?

Just ancient admixture that is present in all Europeans just like non-Europeans get some European admixture. When you think about it places like Ireland got most of their genetics from the Bell Beakers who only arrived about 4,000 years ago. Not very long at all in the scheme of things.

Peterski
08-11-2018, 01:15 PM
Just ancient admixture that is present in all Europeans just like non-Europeans get some European admixture. When you think about it places like Ireland got most of their genetics from the Bell Beakers who only arrived about 4,000 years ago. Not very long at all in the scheme of things.

But the Pre-Beaker Neolithic population of Ireland was very similar to Sardinians and Iberians.

A degree of Iberian-like genetic affinity that shows up for Irish people is probably from them.

England (1) has weaker affinity to Neolithic Irish sample, than Ireland (2) and Scotland (3):

https://i.imgur.com/KJLqKaG.png

Grace O'Malley
08-11-2018, 01:27 PM
But the Pre-Beaker Neolithic population of Ireland was very similar to Sardinians and Iberians.

A degree of Iberian-like genetic affinity that shows up for Irish people is probably from them.

England (1) has weaker affinity to Neolithic Irish sample, than Ireland (2) and Scotland (3):

https://i.imgur.com/KJLqKaG.png

Well of course England would have a weaker affinity. It is an Irish Neolithic genome. If it was an English Neolithic genome it would have more affinity to the English. The Ballynahatty genome would have more affinity to European Farmer populations like Sardinians so it makes sense the hotspots being there and Spain. Those populations have retained more present day European Farmer ancestry. What is interesting is the Ballynahatty genome was of a different farmer population than what the Rathlin's carried.

Peterski
08-11-2018, 01:30 PM
The Ballynahatty genome would have more affinity to European Farmer populations like Sardinians so it makes sense the hotspots being there and Spain. Those populations have retained more present day European Farmer ancestry.

Not all European farmers were the same.

For example Hungarian Neolithic has much stronger affinity to Italians and Greeks:

http://www.pnas.org/content/pnas/113/2/368/F3.large.jpg?width=800&height=600&carousel=1

Hungarian Bronze Age has a weird pattern - look at Ireland, Wales, England, Poland.

Caledonia was not influenced by Hungarian BA, but Wales was.

Grace O'Malley
08-11-2018, 01:36 PM
Not all European farmers were the same.

For example Hungarian Neolithic has much stronger affinity to Italians and Greeks:

http://www.pnas.org/content/pnas/113/2/368/F3.large.jpg?width=800&height=600&carousel=1

Yes I was aware of that. That's why I mentioned that the Ballynahatty was more related to Sardinians. It's quite interesting reading the breakdown in the Rathlin paper. They do touch on some of that.

This diagram from the Rathlin paper is interesting.

http://www.pnas.org/content/pnas/113/2/368/F3.large.jpg?width=800&height=600&carousel=1

Myanthropologies
08-11-2018, 02:09 PM
It's very interesting how some of them score admixture with Caucasian populations, Central Asian populations, and South Asian populations. I heard from another member that some ancient Irish people from 2k years ago were able to be modeled as 1/4 Afghan and had Gedrosia/Caucasus admixture, maybe that is the link.

Grace O'Malley
08-11-2018, 02:22 PM
It's very interesting how some of them score admixture with Caucasian populations, Central Asian populations, and South Asian populations. I heard from another member that some ancient Irish people from 2k years ago were able to be modeled as 1/4 Afghan and had Gedrosia/Caucasus admixture, maybe that is the link.

Most probably some Steppe connections that both populations have. Interestingly on LivingDNA I get 1.4 Chechyna and 1.3 Pashtun which is really cool.

Myanthropologies
08-11-2018, 02:25 PM
Most probably some Steppe connections that both populations have. Interestingly on LivingDNA I get 1.4 Chechyna and 1.3 Pashtun which is really cool.

Yes, it might be steppe connections since steppe ancestry is extremely strong in populations like the Afghan Pashtuns and Pamiri Tajiks. Pashtuns I saw score half steppe on geneplaza, and Pamiri Tajiks score 60- even nearly 70%, with the rest being mostly Iranian Neolithic Farmer, EEF, and bits of WHG and ASE.

Grace O'Malley
08-11-2018, 02:30 PM
Yes, it might be steppe connections since steppe ancestry is extremely strong in populations like the Afghan Pashtuns and Pamiri Tajiks. Pashtuns I saw score half steppe on geneplaza, and Pamiri Tajiks score 60- even nearly 70%, with the rest being mostly Iranian Neolithic Farmer, EEF, and bits of WHG and ASE.

I've always had a fascination with that part of the world. I would love to have some actual Pashtun ancestry but I think it is something ancient. My daughter also got it on LivingDNA.

Peterski
08-11-2018, 02:37 PM
Interestingly on LivingDNA I get 1.4 Chechyna and 1.3 Pashtun which is really cool.

I get 2% Pashtun: https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?240185-Ethnic-Polish-LivingDNA-results

Myanthropologies
08-11-2018, 02:38 PM
I've always had a fascination with that part of the world. I would love to have some actual Pashtun ancestry but I think it is something ancient. My daughter also got it on LivingDNA.

That's funny because I've always found Irish people fascinating, too. I would also love to have actual Irish ancestry to have something that connects me to my fellow Americans, who largely claim Irish descent, too, lol. I am new to learning about Irish history and genomics, but I have always been mesmerized by Ireland. The country is just so beautiful and full of diversity that many people overlook.

Grace O'Malley
08-11-2018, 02:43 PM
I get 2% Pashtun: https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?240185-Ethnic-Polish-LivingDNA-results

Ha you beat me. I've always wanted some exotic ancestry. It is very interesting.

Grace O'Malley
08-11-2018, 02:49 PM
That's funny because I've always found Irish people fascinating, too. I would also love to have actual Irish ancestry to have something that connects me to my fellow Americans, who largely claim Irish descent, too, lol. I am new to learning about Irish history and genomics, but I have always been mesmerized by Ireland. The country is just so beautiful and full of diversity that many people overlook.

Ireland has a half Indian PM which you most probably know. I know you're not Indian though. Also one of the most beautiful Miss Ireland's was Andrea Roche who had an Indian grandmother.

http://cdn.extra.ie/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/04111835/andrea-roche-1.jpg
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/b0/bd/55/b0bd55c17432b30a4247ac9fba426634.jpg
https://lockdownmodels.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/andrea.jpg

Also there was a lot of soldiers in the British Army in India so there most likely is some Irish blood in that part of the world.

Myanthropologies
08-11-2018, 03:00 PM
Ireland has a half Indian PM which you most probably know. I know you're not Indian though. Also one of the most beautiful Miss Ireland's was Andrea Roche who had an Indian grandmother.

http://cdn.extra.ie/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/04111835/andrea-roche-1.jpg
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/b0/bd/55/b0bd55c17432b30a4247ac9fba426634.jpg
https://lockdownmodels.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/andrea.jpg

Also there was a lot of soldiers in the British Army in India so there most likely is some Irish blood in that part of the world.

Afghanistan is not very similar to India though. Afghanistan is more of an extension of Iran with Central Asian (Tajik, Turkmen, Uzbek, Kazakh) influences. Also, genetically, Afghan Pashtuns on GEDMtach come out as 50% Kalash/Balochi/Burusho and 50% Chechen (North Caucasian). The British Army India fought with the Afghans three times and lost, so I likely don't have blood from them. What is interesting though, is that one of my family members has a Scottish surname, and I do have some cousin matches on ancestry that claim Scottish ancestry. However, I don't know if it is just coincidence or real ancestry.

There are definitely some similarities with India, and some Afghans can look Indian, but I think most people forget that Afghanistan is part of the Iranian Plateu and that it is more of a West-Central Asian nation than a South Asian one.

If you want to see what my family members look like, you can see here (although, my mother is not fully Pashtun).

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?186399-Classify-my-living-Afghan-Pashtun-family-members-relatives-etc&highlight=classify+afghan+pashtun

Grace O'Malley
08-11-2018, 03:19 PM
Afghanistan is not very similar to India though. Afghanistan is more of an extension of Iran with Central Asian (Tajik, Turkmen, Uzbek, Kazakh) influences. Also, genetically, Afghan Pashtuns on GEDMtach come out as 50% Kalash/Balochi/Burusho and 50% Chechen (North Caucasian). The British Army India fought with the Afghans three times and lost, so I likely don't have blood from them. What is interesting though, is that one of my family members has a Scottish surname, and I do have some cousin matches on ancestry that claim Scottish ancestry. However, I don't know if it is just coincidence or real ancestry.

There are definitely some similarities with India, and some Afghans can look Indian, but I think most people forget that Afghanistan is part of the Iranian Plateu and that it is more of a West-Central Asian nation than a South Asian one.

If you want to see what my family members look like, you can see here (although, my mother is not fully Pashtun).

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?186399-Classify-my-living-Afghan-Pashtun-family-members-relatives-etc&highlight=classify+afghan+pashtun

Your mother is beautiful and so are your sisters. Thanks for the information on Afghanistan. So Pashtuns are more Afghan?

Have you ever taken a dna test?

Myanthropologies
08-11-2018, 03:25 PM
Your mother is beautiful and so are your sisters. Thanks for the information on Afghanistan. So Pashtuns are more Afghan?

Pashtuns are originally from Afghanistan, yes. The only reason there are Pashtuns in Pakistan is because part of Pakistan's land was originally part of Afghanistan and Iran that got partitioned to them in the Durannid Line agreement.

And thanks :)

Finnish Swede
08-11-2018, 03:28 PM
Just ancient admixture that is present in all Europeans just like non-Europeans get some European admixture. When you think about it places like Ireland got most of their genetics from the Bell Beakers who only arrived about 4,000 years ago. Not very long at all in the scheme of things.

Do Finns have those same ... they have been quite heavily isolated population from rest of Europeans?

Imperator Biff
08-12-2018, 08:38 AM
What part of Ireland is that result from?

Mostly Ulster and Leinster.

Coastal Elite
06-06-2020, 05:06 AM
Relative that resides in West Cork with a long family history in the area. Very high North_Atlantic score. AncestryDNA had her as 100% Irish.

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 55.94
2 Baltic 19.42
3 West_Med 12.54
4 West_Asian 7.65
5 South_Asian 1.64
6 East_Med 1.61
7 Siberian 1.05
8 East_Asian 0.14
9 Oceanian 0.01

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 West_Scottish 4.84
2 Irish 5.64
3 Southwest_English 5.67
4 Orcadian 6.57
5 Southeast_English 7.36
6 North_Dutch 8.38
7 Danish 8.78
8 Norwegian 9.74
9 North_German 10.9
10 South_Dutch 11.82
11 Swedish 12.81
12 West_German 13.14
13 French 15.66
14 North_Swedish 19.14
15 Austrian 19.7
16 East_German 20.28
17 Spanish_Cataluna 21.48
18 Southwest_French 22.41
19 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 22.65
20 Spanish_Cantabria 22.74

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 93.1% West_Scottish + 6.9% French_Basque @ 4.48
2 96.3% West_Scottish + 3.7% Spanish_Aragon @ 4.75
3 97.6% West_Scottish + 2.4% Spanish_Andalucia @ 4.8
4 97.5% West_Scottish + 2.5% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 4.8
5 99.2% West_Scottish + 0.8% Brahui @ 4.8
6 99.2% West_Scottish + 0.8% Balochi @ 4.8
7 99.3% West_Scottish + 0.7% Makrani @ 4.81
8 98.1% West_Scottish + 1.9% Spanish_Murcia @ 4.82
9 99.3% West_Scottish + 0.7% Ossetian @ 4.82
10 99.4% West_Scottish + 0.6% Abhkasian @ 4.82
11 98.5% West_Scottish + 1.5% Spanish_Valencia @ 4.82
12 99.5% West_Scottish + 0.5% Sindhi @ 4.82
13 98.4% West_Scottish + 1.6% Spanish_Cataluna @ 4.82
14 98.5% West_Scottish + 1.5% Spanish_Cantabria @ 4.82
15 99.5% West_Scottish + 0.5% Georgian @ 4.83
16 91.4% West_Scottish + 8.6% Southwest_English @ 4.83
17 99% West_Scottish + 1% Spanish_Extremadura @ 4.83
18 98.9% West_Scottish + 1.1% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 4.83
19 99.7% West_Scottish + 0.3% Armenian @ 4.83
20 99.7% West_Scottish + 0.3% Afghan_Pashtun @ 4.83


Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% West_Scottish +50% West_Scottish @ 5.432940


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% West_Scottish +25% West_Scottish +25% West_Scottish @ 5.432940


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 West_Scottish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 5.432940
2 Southwest_English + West_Scottish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 5.477412
3 Irish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 5.629208
4 Southwest_English + Southwest_English + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 5.659481
5 Irish + Southwest_English + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 5.667974
6 Irish + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + West_Scottish @ 5.841831
7 Irish + Irish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 5.842047
8 Irish + Irish + Southwest_English + West_Scottish @ 5.872918
9 Orcadian + West_Scottish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 5.908069
10 Southeast_English + West_Scottish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 5.952630
11 Southwest_English + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + West_Scottish @ 5.971869
12 Orcadian + Southwest_English + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 5.974116
13 Irish + Irish + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 6.042156
14 Irish + Irish + Irish + West_Scottish @ 6.069712
15 Irish + Orcadian + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 6.099816
16 Irish + Irish + Irish + Southwest_English @ 6.099835
17 Southeast_English + Southwest_English + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 6.117321
18 Irish + Southeast_English + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 6.139158
19 Irish + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 6.148179
20 Irish + Orcadian + Southwest_English + West_Scottish @ 6.165686

Leto
06-07-2020, 10:05 AM
Relative that resides in West Cork with a long family history in the area. Very high North_Atlantic score. AncestryDNA had her as 100% Irish.

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 55.94
2 Baltic 19.42
3 West_Med 12.54
4 West_Asian 7.65
5 South_Asian 1.64
6 East_Med 1.61
7 Siberian 1.05
8 East_Asian 0.14
9 Oceanian 0.01

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 West_Scottish 4.84
2 Irish 5.64
3 Southwest_English 5.67
4 Orcadian 6.57
5 Southeast_English 7.36
6 North_Dutch 8.38
7 Danish 8.78
8 Norwegian 9.74
9 North_German 10.9
10 South_Dutch 11.82
11 Swedish 12.81
12 West_German 13.14
13 French 15.66
14 North_Swedish 19.14
15 Austrian 19.7
16 East_German 20.28
17 Spanish_Cataluna 21.48
18 Southwest_French 22.41
19 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 22.65
20 Spanish_Cantabria 22.74

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 93.1% West_Scottish + 6.9% French_Basque @ 4.48
2 96.3% West_Scottish + 3.7% Spanish_Aragon @ 4.75
3 97.6% West_Scottish + 2.4% Spanish_Andalucia @ 4.8
4 97.5% West_Scottish + 2.5% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 4.8
5 99.2% West_Scottish + 0.8% Brahui @ 4.8
6 99.2% West_Scottish + 0.8% Balochi @ 4.8
7 99.3% West_Scottish + 0.7% Makrani @ 4.81
8 98.1% West_Scottish + 1.9% Spanish_Murcia @ 4.82
9 99.3% West_Scottish + 0.7% Ossetian @ 4.82
10 99.4% West_Scottish + 0.6% Abhkasian @ 4.82
11 98.5% West_Scottish + 1.5% Spanish_Valencia @ 4.82
12 99.5% West_Scottish + 0.5% Sindhi @ 4.82
13 98.4% West_Scottish + 1.6% Spanish_Cataluna @ 4.82
14 98.5% West_Scottish + 1.5% Spanish_Cantabria @ 4.82
15 99.5% West_Scottish + 0.5% Georgian @ 4.83
16 91.4% West_Scottish + 8.6% Southwest_English @ 4.83
17 99% West_Scottish + 1% Spanish_Extremadura @ 4.83
18 98.9% West_Scottish + 1.1% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 4.83
19 99.7% West_Scottish + 0.3% Armenian @ 4.83
20 99.7% West_Scottish + 0.3% Afghan_Pashtun @ 4.83


Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% West_Scottish +50% West_Scottish @ 5.432940


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% West_Scottish +25% West_Scottish +25% West_Scottish @ 5.432940


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 West_Scottish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 5.432940
2 Southwest_English + West_Scottish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 5.477412
3 Irish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 5.629208
4 Southwest_English + Southwest_English + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 5.659481
5 Irish + Southwest_English + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 5.667974
6 Irish + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + West_Scottish @ 5.841831
7 Irish + Irish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 5.842047
8 Irish + Irish + Southwest_English + West_Scottish @ 5.872918
9 Orcadian + West_Scottish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 5.908069
10 Southeast_English + West_Scottish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 5.952630
11 Southwest_English + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + West_Scottish @ 5.971869
12 Orcadian + Southwest_English + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 5.974116
13 Irish + Irish + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 6.042156
14 Irish + Irish + Irish + West_Scottish @ 6.069712
15 Irish + Orcadian + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 6.099816
16 Irish + Irish + Irish + Southwest_English @ 6.099835
17 Southeast_English + Southwest_English + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 6.117321
18 Irish + Southeast_English + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 6.139158
19 Irish + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 6.148179
20 Irish + Orcadian + Southwest_English + West_Scottish @ 6.165686
Share her Dodecad K12b here:
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?198388-Post-Dodecad-K12b-results/page20

JamesBond007
06-07-2020, 10:18 AM
Relative that resides in West Cork with a long family history in the area. Very high North_Atlantic score. AncestryDNA had her as 100% Irish.

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 55.94


Dude, what is the difference between :

North_Atlantic : North Sea (37%) +Atlantic (23%) versus North_Atlantic : North_Sea (23%) + Atlantic( 37%) on K13 ? Here is a HINT : NOTHING ! :picard1: :bored:

Chris596
06-07-2020, 10:58 AM
I don't want to be rude, but why do they (almost everyone) have this much South-Asian?

Kyp
06-07-2020, 11:06 AM
I don't want to be rude, but why do they (almost everyone) have this much South-Asian?

Steppe

Eurogenes reads a lot of Iran_Neolithic/Caucasus as South Asian

NWesterners score a lot of Gedrosian on other calculators and are also one of the most steppe-heavy Europeans.

could be wrong

Grace O'Malley
06-07-2020, 11:10 AM
I don't want to be rude, but why do they (almost everyone) have this much South-Asian?

I get 0.06 South Asian. I think it's most probably across many European populations. It's like how some people get Amerindian and some don't.

Population
North_Atlantic 51.79 Pct
Baltic 25.50 Pct
West_Med 10.04 Pct
West_Asian 7.39 Pct
East_Med 1.64 Pct
Red_Sea 1.40 Pct
South_Asian 0.06 Pct
East_Asian -
Siberian 0.89 Pct
Amerindian 1.14 Pct
Oceanian 0.16 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 51.79
2 Baltic 25.50
3 West_Med 10.04
4 West_Asian 7.39
5 East_Med 1.64
6 Red_Sea 1.40
7 Amerindian 1.14


Finished reading population data. 204 populations found.
13 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 North_Dutch @ 3.154021
2 Irish @ 3.345129
3 Norwegian @ 3.812990
4 West_Scottish @ 4.097712
5 Danish @ 4.117771
6 Orcadian @ 4.137623
7 North_German @ 5.934482
8 Southeast_English @ 6.821009
9 Southwest_English @ 6.871243
10 Swedish @ 7.048795
11 South_Dutch @ 11.471940
12 West_German @ 12.510398
13 North_Swedish @ 14.226061
14 Austrian @ 17.256870
15 East_German @ 17.369667
16 French @ 17.988453
17 Hungarian @ 22.274704
18 Southwest_Finnish @ 23.591816
19 Spanish_Cataluna @ 26.240318
20 Southwest_French @ 27.212023

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Irish +50% Norwegian @ 2.313866


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Irish +25% Norwegian +25% Norwegian @ 2.313866


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++
1 Irish + Irish + Norwegian + Norwegian @ 2.313866
2 Irish + Norwegian + Norwegian + West_Scottish @ 2.350944
3 Irish + Irish + North_Dutch + Norwegian @ 2.361537
4 Irish + North_Dutch + Norwegian + West_Scottish @ 2.420816
5 Irish + North_German + Norwegian + West_Scottish @ 2.458922
6 North_German + Norwegian + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 2.463301
7 Norwegian + Norwegian + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 2.464289
8 Danish + Irish + Irish + Norwegian @ 2.502304
9 Irish + Irish + North_German + Norwegian @ 2.505573
10 Irish + Irish + Irish + Norwegian @ 2.526197
11 North_Dutch + Norwegian + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 2.532473
12 Irish + Irish + Irish + Swedish @ 2.536980
13 Danish + Irish + Norwegian + West_Scottish @ 2.551383
14 Irish + North_Dutch + North_Dutch + Norwegian @ 2.551536
15 North_Dutch + North_Dutch + Norwegian + West_Scottish @ 2.555050
16 Irish + Irish + Swedish + West_Scottish @ 2.571008
17 North_Dutch + Norwegian + Norwegian + West_Scottish @ 2.577441
18 Irish + North_Dutch + Norwegian + Norwegian @ 2.593716
19 Irish + North_Dutch + Swedish + West_Scottish @ 2.626417
20 Irish + Norwegian + Norwegian + Orcadian @ 2.632035

Kyp
06-07-2020, 11:12 AM
I get 0.06 South Asian. I think it's most probably across many European populations. It's like how some people get Amerindian and some don't.

Population
North_Atlantic 51.79 Pct
Baltic 25.50 Pct
West_Med 10.04 Pct
West_Asian 7.39 Pct
East_Med 1.64 Pct
Red_Sea 1.40 Pct
South_Asian 0.06 Pct
East_Asian -
Siberian 0.89 Pct
Amerindian 1.14 Pct
Oceanian 0.16 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 51.79
2 Baltic 25.50
3 West_Med 10.04
4 West_Asian 7.39
5 East_Med 1.64
6 Red_Sea 1.40
7 Amerindian 1.14


Finished reading population data. 204 populations found.
13 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 North_Dutch @ 3.154021
2 Irish @ 3.345129
3 Norwegian @ 3.812990
4 West_Scottish @ 4.097712
5 Danish @ 4.117771
6 Orcadian @ 4.137623
7 North_German @ 5.934482
8 Southeast_English @ 6.821009
9 Southwest_English @ 6.871243
10 Swedish @ 7.048795
11 South_Dutch @ 11.471940
12 West_German @ 12.510398
13 North_Swedish @ 14.226061
14 Austrian @ 17.256870
15 East_German @ 17.369667
16 French @ 17.988453
17 Hungarian @ 22.274704
18 Southwest_Finnish @ 23.591816
19 Spanish_Cataluna @ 26.240318
20 Southwest_French @ 27.212023

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Irish +50% Norwegian @ 2.313866


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Irish +25% Norwegian +25% Norwegian @ 2.313866


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++
1 Irish + Irish + Norwegian + Norwegian @ 2.313866
2 Irish + Norwegian + Norwegian + West_Scottish @ 2.350944
3 Irish + Irish + North_Dutch + Norwegian @ 2.361537
4 Irish + North_Dutch + Norwegian + West_Scottish @ 2.420816
5 Irish + North_German + Norwegian + West_Scottish @ 2.458922
6 North_German + Norwegian + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 2.463301
7 Norwegian + Norwegian + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 2.464289
8 Danish + Irish + Irish + Norwegian @ 2.502304
9 Irish + Irish + North_German + Norwegian @ 2.505573
10 Irish + Irish + Irish + Norwegian @ 2.526197
11 North_Dutch + Norwegian + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 2.532473
12 Irish + Irish + Irish + Swedish @ 2.536980
13 Danish + Irish + Norwegian + West_Scottish @ 2.551383
14 Irish + North_Dutch + North_Dutch + Norwegian @ 2.551536
15 North_Dutch + North_Dutch + Norwegian + West_Scottish @ 2.555050
16 Irish + Irish + Swedish + West_Scottish @ 2.571008
17 North_Dutch + Norwegian + Norwegian + West_Scottish @ 2.577441
18 Irish + North_Dutch + Norwegian + Norwegian @ 2.593716
19 Irish + North_Dutch + Swedish + West_Scottish @ 2.626417
20 Irish + Norwegian + Norwegian + Orcadian @ 2.632035

What's your Gedrosian on Dodecad12b? I think Nwesterners score a lot because of heavy Steppe-influence

Grace O'Malley
06-07-2020, 11:25 AM
What's your Gedrosian on Dodecad12b? I think Nwesterners score a lot because of heavy Steppe-influence

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_European 46.59
2 Atlantic_Med 37.85
3 Gedrosia 10.22
4 Caucasus 5.03
5 Southwest_Asian 0.21
6 Siberian 0.11

Sharpshooter
05-24-2021, 05:38 PM
Posted this in fresh thread but thought bumping this would be relevant for Irish users.

Born and raised in England, parents are both Irish. Mums family comes from Down and Tyrone (all catholic as far as we know so far). Fathers family is mostly north Louth, just outside Dundalk along the border, has some ancestry in South Armagh too.

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 47.63
2 Baltic 26
3 West_Med 12.78
4 West_Asian 8.26
5 East_Med 3.14
6 Red_Sea 1.55
7 South_Asian 0.47
8 Amerindian 0.16


Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 North_German 3.16
2 North_Dutch 3.71
3 Danish 4.2
4 Orcadian 4.92
5 Irish 5.1
6 Southeast_English 5.47
7 Norwegian 5.53
8 West_Scottish 6.12
9 Southwest_English 6.33
10 South_Dutch 6.58
11 Swedish 6.62
12 West_German 7.29
13 Austrian 10.76
14 East_German 11.16
15 North_Swedish 12.23
16 French 12.67
17 Hungarian 15.47
18 Southwest_Finnish 19.73
19 Spanish_Cataluna 20.31
20 Croatian 20.65

I appear to have the lowest North_Atlantic score from anyone in this thread so far. Not sure if that's anything to do with my results being from 23andme (V5.9 update).

Sharpshooter
05-24-2021, 05:40 PM
Here's my brothers as well.

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 48.47
2 Baltic 26.06
3 West_Med 14.77
4 West_Asian 6.52
5 South_Asian 2.78
6 Red_Sea 0.57
7 Siberian 0.44
8 Amerindian 0.39

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Orcadian 4.65
2 Irish 4.81
3 North_Dutch 5.12
4 Danish 5.34
5 Southwest_English 5.72
6 West_Scottish 5.73
7 North_German 5.83
8 Southeast_English 5.93
9 Norwegian 6.13
10 Swedish 7.24
11 South_Dutch 8.17
12 West_German 9.42
13 East_German 12.42
14 Austrian 12.68
15 North_Swedish 12.7
16 French 13.72
17 Hungarian 17.44
18 Southwest_Finnish 20.11
19 Spanish_Cataluna 20.72
20 Southwest_French 20.89

Leto
05-24-2021, 11:29 PM
Posted this in fresh thread but thought bumping this would be relevant for Irish users.

Born and raised in England, parents are both Irish. Mums family comes from Down and Tyrone (all catholic as far as we know so far). Fathers family is mostly north Louth, just outside Dundalk along the border, has some ancestry in South Armagh too.

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 47.63
2 Baltic 26
3 West_Med 12.78
4 West_Asian 8.26
5 East_Med 3.14
6 Red_Sea 1.55
7 South_Asian 0.47
8 Amerindian 0.16


Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 North_German 3.16
2 North_Dutch 3.71
3 Danish 4.2
4 Orcadian 4.92
5 Irish 5.1
6 Southeast_English 5.47
7 Norwegian 5.53
8 West_Scottish 6.12
9 Southwest_English 6.33
10 South_Dutch 6.58
11 Swedish 6.62
12 West_German 7.29
13 Austrian 10.76
14 East_German 11.16
15 North_Swedish 12.23
16 French 12.67
17 Hungarian 15.47
18 Southwest_Finnish 19.73
19 Spanish_Cataluna 20.31
20 Croatian 20.65

I appear to have the lowest North_Atlantic score from anyone in this thread so far. Not sure if that's anything to do with my results being from 23andme (V5.9 update).
Can you share your Dodecad K12b results too?

Sharpshooter
05-25-2021, 12:05 AM
Can you share your Dodecad K12b results too?
# Population Percent
1 North_European 43.32
2 Atlantic_Med 36.67
3 Gedrosia 10.25
4 Caucasus 7.38
5 Southwest_Asian 2.35
6 Siberian 0.01

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) 2.69
2 Dutch (Dodecad) 4.19
3 Kent (1000Genomes) 6.25
4 CEU30 (1000Genomes) 6.26
5 English (Dodecad) 6.43
6 German (Dodecad) 6.63
7 British_Isles (Dodecad) 7.8
8 Argyll (1000Genomes) 8.35
9 Cornwall (1000Genomes) 8.56
10 British (Dodecad) 8.62
11 Orkney (1000Genomes) 8.97
12 Irish (Dodecad) 9.09
13 Orcadian (HGDP) 9.12
14 French (Dodecad) 9.19
15 French (HGDP) 9.84
16 Norwegian (Dodecad) 12.67
17 Hungarians (Behar) 14.03
18 Swedish (Dodecad) 14.25
19 Cataluna (1000Genomes) 22.35
20 Galicia (1000Genomes) 22.7

Leto
05-25-2021, 12:56 AM
# Population Percent
1 North_European 43.32
2 Atlantic_Med 36.67
3 Gedrosia 10.25
4 Caucasus 7.38
5 Southwest_Asian 2.35
6 Siberian 0.01

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) 2.69
2 Dutch (Dodecad) 4.19
3 Kent (1000Genomes) 6.25
4 CEU30 (1000Genomes) 6.26
5 English (Dodecad) 6.43
6 German (Dodecad) 6.63
7 British_Isles (Dodecad) 7.8
8 Argyll (1000Genomes) 8.35
9 Cornwall (1000Genomes) 8.56
10 British (Dodecad) 8.62
11 Orkney (1000Genomes) 8.97
12 Irish (Dodecad) 9.09
13 Orcadian (HGDP) 9.12
14 French (Dodecad) 9.19
15 French (HGDP) 9.84
16 Norwegian (Dodecad) 12.67
17 Hungarians (Behar) 14.03
18 Swedish (Dodecad) 14.25
19 Cataluna (1000Genomes) 22.35
20 Galicia (1000Genomes) 22.7
Nice.
Updated oracle

Distance to: Sharpshooter
2.51898789 English_South
2.82918716 English
3.10212830 English_North
3.14501192 French_Northwest
3.25705388 Scottish
4.17025179 Dutch
4.25661838 Irish
4.79941663 Belgian
4.80272839 German_Northwest
5.67972711 Icelandic
7.37046810 Danish
7.51685440 French_North
7.72010363 German
8.20473644 French_Northeast
8.97744396 Swedish
9.24999459 Bavarian_German
12.10935176 Czech
12.30784709 Hungarian_Transdanubia+Budapest
12.64592029 Hungarian
12.72995287 Hungarian_Alföld


Target: Sharpshooter
Distance: 0.7033% / 0.70327611 | ADC: 0.25x RC
79.4 Scottish
16.0 German_Northwest
2.6 Kuwait2
2.0 Lezgin

I'm on the phone now, you can run the 2-way oracle yourself. Just put this in Vahaduo Dodecad K12b Updated and check 2-way

Sharpshooter,10.25,0,0,0,36.67,43.32,0,0,2.35,0,7. 38,0

http://vahaduo.genetics.ovh/

Grace O'Malley
05-25-2021, 11:36 AM
I've done Sharpshooter's 2 way for Dodecad K12b Updated.

This is Sharpshooter's breakdown with distance col.


Target: Sharpshooter
Distance: 0.6508% / 0.65076198
73.7 Irish
13.0 Danish
3.2 Italian_Trentino
3.1 Kuwait2
2.8 German_Northwest
2.3 Dargin_Kubachi
1.7 Sorb_Lusatia
0.2 Latvian


Distance to: Sharpshooter
1.38231268 3.80% Saudi + 96.20% Scottish
1.38617892 4.00% Kuwait1 + 96.00% Scottish
1.39352715 4.00% Bedouin + 96.00% Scottish
1.43352075 96.20% Scottish + 3.80% Yemenite_Mahra
1.44086410 3.60% Kuwait2 + 96.40% Scottish
1.50366122 4.60% Iraqi_Arab + 95.40% Scottish
1.52374076 4.40% Arab_Iran + 95.60% Scottish
1.53649336 95.40% Scottish + 4.60% Syrian_Muslim
1.54708567 9.40% Pomak_Greece + 90.60% Scottish
1.55846601 10.20% Pomak_Bulgaria + 89.80% Scottish
1.57881341 95.80% English_North + 4.20% Arab_Iran
1.58636984 10.20% Bulgarian_Central + 89.80% Scottish
1.58770122 4.40% Iraqi_Baghdad + 95.60% Scottish
1.58773861 9.40% Bulgarian_East + 90.60% Scottish
1.58862955 4.20% Kurdish_Jew + 95.80% Scottish
1.59403556 4.20% Jordanian_Christian + 95.80% Scottish
1.59500800 4.20% Palestinian_Christian + 95.80% Scottish
1.59665348 4.20% Iraqi_Jew + 95.80% Scottish
1.59788162 10.80% Moldovan_South + 89.20% Scottish
1.59936685 4.40% Jordanian_Muslim + 95.60% Scottish
1.60223979 95.80% English_North + 4.20% Kurd_Sorani
1.60297253 95.80% Scottish + 4.20% Syrian_SW_Christian
1.60539756 95.80% English_North + 4.20% Iraqi_Arab
1.60669668 91.20% Scottish + 8.80% Turk_Deliorman
1.60924183 95.80% English_North + 4.20% Iranian_Fars

Interesting result. I'll look at mine to see if Dodecad gives you some exotic result in the two-way mix.

Grace O'Malley
05-25-2021, 11:45 AM
This is my result with Dodecad K12b

Distance to: Grace
2.11007109 Icelandic
2.59882666 Scottish
2.61715494 Irish
3.03122088 English_North
3.95576794 German_Northwest
4.10565464 English
4.22077007 Danish
4.51211702 English_South
5.19699913 French_Northwest
5.67451319 Dutch
6.22705388 Swedish
7.77739674 German
8.42206032 Belgian
11.24814651 French_North
12.16000822 French_Northeast
12.89091541 Czech
13.03407457 Bavarian_German
14.91516678 Hungarian_Alföld
14.98535952 Hungarian_Transdanubia+Budapest
15.16941001 Hungarian
15.24326409 Sorb_Lusatia
15.29021583 Slovenian
15.39927920 Slovak
15.48402725 Hungarian_North
16.76749236 Polish_Warmia-Masuria

Target: Grace
Distance: 0.5444% / 0.54435816
65.9 Irish
20.1 Icelandic
11.2 Danish
2.8 Latvian


Target: Grace
Distance: 0.5892% / 0.58921697 | ADC: 0.25x RC
55.7 Icelandic
44.3 Irish

Distance to: Grace
0.55435714 92.00% Irish + 8.00% Latvian
0.58922637 55.80% Icelandic + 44.20% Irish
0.62412190 71.00% Irish + 29.00% Swedish
0.62649185 91.60% Irish + 8.40% Lithuanian
0.65981940 37.80% Danish + 62.20% Irish
0.82764202 9.00% Estonian + 91.00% Irish
0.83963182 56.00% Icelandic + 44.00% Scottish
0.89338684 87.20% Irish + 12.80% Polish_Warmia-Masuria
0.95829583 94.20% Icelandic + 5.80% Spanish_Basque
1.02908485 9.80% Belarusian_Minsk + 90.20% Irish
1.07123046 9.20% Finnish_West + 90.80% Irish
1.07705861 36.60% Danish + 63.40% Scottish
1.09885186 6.60% French_Southwest + 93.40% Icelandic
1.11315900 7.20% Finnish_East + 92.80% Irish
1.11452417 90.40% Irish + 9.60% Russian_Smolensk
1.12087382 91.00% Irish + 9.00% Russian_Tver
1.12913110 9.80% Belorussian + 90.20% Irish
1.14221661 72.40% Scottish + 27.60% Swedish
1.14469785 92.20% Irish + 7.80% Karelian
1.15012483 88.60% Irish + 11.40% Polish
1.19178015 90.20% Irish + 9.80% Polish_Mazovia
1.19651519 93.80% Icelandic + 6.20% Spanish_La_Rioja
1.23000646 38.20% English_North + 61.80% Icelandic
1.23012706 91.40% Irish + 8.60% North_Russian
1.26900027 87.00% Irish + 13.00% Sorb_Lusatia

Leto
05-25-2021, 06:59 PM
Here's my brothers as well.

Go ahead and compare yourself to the members of the Apricity that have been tested (many of them are no longer active though). That's a fun thing to do
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?346141-K13-modeling-with-TA-members-Vol-2
Just copy this list and use it as SOURCE and your own results as TARGET
http://vahaduo.genetics.ovh/k13-vahaduo.htm

Sharpshooter
05-26-2021, 08:02 AM
Go ahead and compare yourself to the members of the Apricity that have been tested (many of them are no longer active though). That's a fun thing to do
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?346141-K13-modeling-with-TA-members-Vol-2
Just copy this list and use it as SOURCE and your own results as TARGET
http://vahaduo.genetics.ovh/k13-vahaduo.htm

Interesting. :)

Just curious if I got an AncestryDNA test and got another set of results would you guys take those results as well? Just that it was mentioned in the fresh results thread 23andme newest update is might be pulling some people eastward. My and my brother appear to have the two lowest North_Atlanic scores in thread and higher baltic scores, and look a little out for what Irish people should be getting.

It was also mentioned to try and get raw data from the old update data which was claimed to be more accurate but I'm not sure how to do that?

My 23andme score incidently was 99.5% British and Irish, 0.5% Sardinian (90% confidence setting was 98.9% B&I and 1.1% Broadly European). That high B&I score is supposedly associated with Irish people so not sure why my North Atlantic/Baltic scores are a little off.

slaog
05-26-2021, 08:17 AM
Mayo:
# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 49.4
2 Baltic 22.64
3 West_Med 16.03
4 West_Asian 6.56
5 South_Asian 3.27
6 Red_Sea 1.81
7 Amerindian 0.31

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Southwest_English 4.37
2 Irish 5.03
3 Orcadian 5.37
4 West_Scottish 5.52
5 Southeast_English 5.83
6 North_Dutch 6.85
7 Danish 7.24
8 South_Dutch 7.89
9 North_German 8.05
10 Norwegian 8.54
11 West_German 9.5
12 Swedish 10.28
13 French 12.25
14 Austrian 14.46
15 East_German 14.69
16 North_Swedish 15.93
17 Spanish_Cataluna 18.81
18 Southwest_French 18.93
19 Hungarian 19.36
20 Spanish_Cantabria 19.63

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 95.1% Southwest_English + 4.9% Punjabi_Jat @ 3.13
2 95.2% Southwest_English + 4.8% Kalash @ 3.17
3 95.8% Southwest_English + 4.2% Gujarati @ 3.18
4 95.5% Southwest_English + 4.5% Brahmin_UP @ 3.19
5 95.3% Southwest_English + 4.7% Burusho @ 3.2
6 95.8% Southwest_English + 4.2% Kshatriya @ 3.21
7 95.4% Southwest_English + 4.6% Pathan @ 3.25
8 96.1% Southwest_English + 3.9% Dharkar @ 3.25
9 96.2% Southwest_English + 3.8% Kanjar @ 3.26
10 95.8% Southwest_English + 4.2% Sindhi @ 3.27
11 96.4% Southwest_English + 3.6% Kol @ 3.3
12 96% Southwest_English + 4% Bangladeshi @ 3.31
13 96.3% Southwest_English + 3.7% Uttar_Pradesh @ 3.31
14 96.5% Southwest_English + 3.5% Kurumba @ 3.32
15 96.5% Southwest_English + 3.5% North_Kannadi @ 3.32
16 96.5% Southwest_English + 3.5% Dusadh @ 3.32
17 96.5% Southwest_English + 3.5% Velamas @ 3.34
18 96.6% Southwest_English + 3.4% Piramalai @ 3.35
19 96.7% Southwest_English + 3.3% Chamar @ 3.37
20 96.7% Southwest_English + 3.3% Sakilli @ 3.38


Cork:
# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 51.28
2 Baltic 25.39
3 West_Med 12.57
4 West_Asian 6.72
5 South_Asian 1.68
6 Amerindian 1.13
7 East_Med 0.85
8 Oceanian 0.37
9 Red_Sea 0.02

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Irish 1.85
2 Orcadian 2.61
3 West_Scottish 2.98
4 North_Dutch 3.14
5 Danish 3.68
6 Norwegian 4.19
7 Southwest_English 4.66
8 Southeast_English 4.82
9 North_German 5.47
10 Swedish 6.69
11 South_Dutch 9.23
12 West_German 10.28
13 North_Swedish 13.13
14 East_German 14.49
15 Austrian 14.55
16 French 14.85
17 Hungarian 19.15
18 Southwest_Finnish 21.18
19 Spanish_Cataluna 21.88
20 Southwest_French 22.49

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 95.8% Irish + 4.2% Lithuanian @ 1.22
2 95.4% Irish + 4.6% Estonian @ 1.24
3 95.8% Irish + 4.2% Kargopol_Russian @ 1.24
4 95% Irish + 5% Polish @ 1.26
5 96.3% Irish + 3.7% Erzya @ 1.27
6 95.5% Irish + 4.5% Russian_Smolensk @ 1.27
7 95.7% Irish + 4.3% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 1.28
8 95.7% Irish + 4.3% Estonian_Polish @ 1.29
9 95.2% Irish + 4.8% Ukrainian @ 1.29
10 95.8% Irish + 4.2% Southwest_Russian @ 1.31
11 94.8% Irish + 5.2% South_Polish @ 1.32
12 95.7% Irish + 4.3% Belorussian @ 1.32
13 95.2% Irish + 4.8% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 1.33
14 96% Irish + 4% East_Finnish @ 1.35
15 95.5% Irish + 4.5% Finnish @ 1.35
16 94.3% Irish + 5.7% Southwest_Finnish @ 1.35
17 84.4% Irish + 15.6% Swedish @ 1.41
18 91.7% Irish + 8.3% North_Swedish @ 1.43
19 92.7% Irish + 7.3% East_German @ 1.47
20 95.7% Irish + 4.3% Croatian @ 1.49



1/2 Galway, 1/2 Cork:
# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 51.95
2 Baltic 23.75
3 West_Med 10.23
4 West_Asian 8.21
5 East_Med 2.93
6 South_Asian 1.04
7 Amerindian 0.97
8 Red_Sea 0.62
9 Sub-Saharan 0.26
10 Siberian 0.05

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Irish 2.92
2 West_Scottish 3.4
3 North_Dutch 3.6
4 Orcadian 3.87
5 Danish 3.96
6 Norwegian 5.11
7 Southeast_English 5.3
8 North_German 5.52
9 Southwest_English 5.59
10 Swedish 7.89
11 South_Dutch 9.34
12 West_German 10.1
13 North_Swedish 14.31
14 French 14.81
15 Austrian 15.2
16 East_German 15.63
17 Hungarian 19.56
18 Spanish_Cataluna 22.03
19 Southwest_Finnish 22.49
20 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 23.22

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 94.7% West_Scottish + 5.3% Tabassaran @ 1.99
2 94.9% West_Scottish + 5.1% Lezgin @ 2.02
3 95.1% West_Scottish + 4.9% Chechen @ 2.17
4 96.2% Irish + 3.8% Tabassaran @ 2.2
5 96.4% Irish + 3.6% Lezgin @ 2.21
6 96.6% Irish + 3.4% Chechen @ 2.32
7 95.6% West_Scottish + 4.4% Adygei @ 2.32
8 95.7% West_Scottish + 4.3% North_Ossetian @ 2.33
9 95.4% West_Scottish + 4.6% Kumyk @ 2.35
10 97.2% Irish + 2.8% Kurdish @ 2.37
11 97.2% Irish + 2.8% Iranian @ 2.37
12 96.8% Irish + 3.2% Kumyk @ 2.39
13 97% Irish + 3% Adygei @ 2.39
14 97.4% Irish + 2.6% Abhkasian @ 2.39
15 97% Irish + 3% North_Ossetian @ 2.39
16 95.6% West_Scottish + 4.4% Kabardin @ 2.4
17 96.4% West_Scottish + 3.6% Abhkasian @ 2.4
18 97.3% Irish + 2.7% Georgian @ 2.4
19 96.2% West_Scottish + 3.8% Georgian @ 2.4
20 97.1% Irish + 2.9% Azeri @ 2.42


Cork, Kerry, Limerick:
# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 52.03
2 Baltic 22.32
3 West_Med 12.89
4 West_Asian 7.45
5 East_Med 1.69
6 South_Asian 1.54
7 Sub-Saharan 0.73
8 Red_Sea 0.68
9 Oceanian 0.34
10 Amerindian 0.33

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Irish 2.19
2 West_Scottish 2.43
3 Southwest_English 3.26
4 Orcadian 3.35
5 Southeast_English 4.45
6 North_Dutch 4.76
7 Danish 5.32
8 Norwegian 6.63
9 North_German 6.97
10 South_Dutch 8.68
11 Swedish 9.27
12 West_German 9.9
13 French 13.59
14 Austrian 15.66
15 North_Swedish 15.72
16 East_German 16.09
17 Spanish_Cataluna 20.34
18 Hungarian 20.38
19 Southwest_French 21.29
20 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 21.52

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 97.1% West_Scottish + 2.9% Abhkasian @ 1.51
2 97% West_Scottish + 3% Georgian @ 1.51
3 96.7% West_Scottish + 3.3% Ossetian @ 1.51
4 97.3% West_Scottish + 2.7% Brahui @ 1.51
5 97.2% West_Scottish + 2.8% Balochi @ 1.52
6 97.2% West_Scottish + 2.8% Makrani @ 1.52
7 96.8% West_Scottish + 3.2% Adygei @ 1.59
8 96.8% West_Scottish + 3.2% North_Ossetian @ 1.59
9 96.7% West_Scottish + 3.3% Balkar @ 1.6
10 96.6% West_Scottish + 3.4% Chechen @ 1.62
11 96.7% West_Scottish + 3.3% Kabardin @ 1.62
12 96.5% West_Scottish + 3.5% Tabassaran @ 1.64
13 96.7% West_Scottish + 3.3% Lezgin @ 1.66
14 96.7% West_Scottish + 3.3% Kumyk @ 1.67
15 96.9% West_Scottish + 3.1% Afghan_Pashtun @ 1.69
16 97.2% West_Scottish + 2.8% Kalash @ 1.71
17 97.3% West_Scottish + 2.7% Armenian @ 1.71
18 97.2% West_Scottish + 2.8% Kurdish @ 1.71
19 97.3% West_Scottish + 2.7% Iranian @ 1.75
20 97.6% West_Scottish + 2.4% Sindhi @ 1.76


1/2 Kerry, 1/2 Limerick:
# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 49.63
2 Baltic 23.25
3 West_Med 12.9
4 West_Asian 8.31
5 East_Med 2.57
6 South_Asian 1.33
7 Amerindian 0.69
8 Red_Sea 0.58
9 Siberian 0.49
10 Oceanian 0.15
11 Sub-Saharan 0.11

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Irish 3.19
2 Orcadian 3.5
3 West_Scottish 4.01
4 North_Dutch 4.09
5 Southeast_English 4.24
6 Southwest_English 4.36
7 Danish 4.53
8 North_German 5.18
9 Norwegian 6.2
10 South_Dutch 6.96
11 West_German 7.96
12 Swedish 8.34
13 French 12.48
14 Austrian 13.35
15 East_German 13.89
16 North_Swedish 14.43
17 Hungarian 17.99
18 Spanish_Cataluna 19.7
19 Southwest_French 20.83
20 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 20.94

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 94.4% Irish + 5.6% Balkar @ 0.96
2 95.3% Irish + 4.7% Abhkasian @ 0.96
3 95.1% Irish + 4.9% Georgian @ 0.98
4 94.6% Irish + 5.4% Adygei @ 1
5 94.3% Irish + 5.7% Kumyk @ 1.03
6 94.4% Irish + 5.6% Kabardin @ 1.03
7 94.7% Irish + 5.3% Ossetian @ 1.03
8 94.7% Irish + 5.3% North_Ossetian @ 1.05
9 95.2% Irish + 4.8% Armenian @ 1.09
10 94.4% Irish + 5.6% Turkish @ 1.12
11 95.1% Irish + 4.9% Kurdish @ 1.15
12 93% West_Scottish + 7% Kabardin @ 1.15
13 93.2% West_Scottish + 6.8% Adygei @ 1.16
14 94.7% Irish + 5.3% Azeri @ 1.17
15 93.1% West_Scottish + 6.9% Balkar @ 1.2
16 95.3% Irish + 4.7% Georgian_Jewish @ 1.22
17 93.3% West_Scottish + 6.7% North_Ossetian @ 1.22
18 94.4% Irish + 5.6% Chechen @ 1.25
19 95.2% Irish + 4.8% Iranian @ 1.25
20 92.9% West_Scottish + 7.1% Kumyk @ 1.27


Mayo, Sligo, Cork, Tipperary:
# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 51.99
2 Baltic 24.13
3 West_Med 13.77
4 West_Asian 5.25
5 East_Med 1.7
6 South_Asian 1.05
7 Sub-Saharan 0.57
8 Siberian 0.57
9 Oceanian 0.47
10 Red_Sea 0.46
11 Northeast_African 0.04

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Orcadian 1.82
2 Irish 2.14
3 West_Scottish 2.16
4 Southwest_English 2.52
5 Southeast_English 3.52
6 North_Dutch 3.87
7 Danish 4.58
8 Norwegian 5.52
9 North_German 6.62
10 Swedish 8.05
11 South_Dutch 8.53
12 West_German 9.95
13 French 13.7
14 North_Swedish 14.29
15 Austrian 15.05
16 East_German 15.19
17 Hungarian 19.84
18 Spanish_Cataluna 20.39
19 Southwest_French 20.94
20 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 21.54

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 70.5% Southwest_English + 29.5% Norwegian @ 1.13
2 78.3% Southwest_English + 21.7% Swedish @ 1.23
3 63.3% Orcadian + 36.7% Southwest_English @ 1.32
4 57.1% Irish + 42.9% Southwest_English @ 1.49
5 87.5% Southwest_English + 12.5% North_Swedish @ 1.49
6 63.8% Southwest_English + 36.2% North_Dutch @ 1.52
7 96.5% Orcadian + 3.5% French_Basque @ 1.55
8 68.6% Southwest_English + 31.4% Danish @ 1.59
9 63.6% Orcadian + 36.4% West_Scottish @ 1.62
10 64.2% Orcadian + 35.8% Irish @ 1.65
11 92.2% Southwest_English + 7.8% Southwest_Finnish @ 1.67
12 58.1% West_Scottish + 41.9% Southwest_English @ 1.67
13 91.7% West_Scottish + 8.3% East_German @ 1.68
14 93.7% Southwest_English + 6.3% Finnish @ 1.68
15 83.1% Norwegian + 16.9% French_Basque @ 1.69
16 92.1% West_Scottish + 7.9% Austrian @ 1.74
17 94.5% Southwest_English + 5.5% East_Finnish @ 1.75
18 94.2% Southwest_English + 5.8% Estonian @ 1.75
19 94.4% Irish + 5.6% Southwest_French @ 1.75
20 97.8% Orcadian + 2.2% Southwest_French @ 1.75


Tipperary:
# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 50.7
2 Baltic 22.99
3 West_Med 14.25
4 West_Asian 4.88
5 Red_Sea 3.14
6 South_Asian 1.66
7 East_Med 1.14
8 Amerindian 0.88
9 Oceanian 0.37

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Southwest_English 3.14
2 Irish 3.48
3 West_Scottish 3.66
4 Orcadian 3.75
5 Southeast_English 4.51
6 North_Dutch 5.22
7 Danish 5.97
8 Norwegian 7.02
9 North_German 7.25
10 South_Dutch 8
11 Swedish 9.16
12 West_German 9.59
13 French 12.57
14 Austrian 14.78
15 North_Swedish 15.03
16 East_German 15.06
17 Spanish_Cataluna 19.46
18 Hungarian 19.6
19 Southwest_French 19.88
20 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 20.33

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 89.1% Irish + 10.9% Spanish_Galicia @ 2.44
2 89.2% Irish + 10.8% Southwest_French @ 2.53
3 89.5% Irish + 10.5% Spanish_Cantabria @ 2.54
4 90.7% Irish + 9.3% Spanish_Extremadura @ 2.6
5 97.1% Southwest_English + 2.9% MA-1 @ 2.61
6 89.8% Irish + 10.2% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 2.61
7 95.6% Irish + 4.4% Sardinian @ 2.63
8 90.6% Irish + 9.4% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 2.64
9 90.3% Irish + 9.7% Portuguese @ 2.65
10 90.8% Irish + 9.2% Spanish_Aragon @ 2.65
11 89% West_Scottish + 11% Spanish_Galicia @ 2.66
12 95.9% Irish + 4.1% Moroccan @ 2.67
13 91.1% Irish + 8.9% Spanish_Murcia @ 2.73
14 85.1% Irish + 14.9% French @ 2.73
15 95.5% West_Scottish + 4.5% Moroccan @ 2.73
16 91.9% Irish + 8.1% Spanish_Andalucia @ 2.76
17 96.1% Irish + 3.9% Mozabite_Berber @ 2.76
18 95.5% Southwest_English + 4.5% East_Finnish @ 2.76
19 95.7% Southwest_English + 4.3% Kargopol_Russian @ 2.77
20 90.9% Southwest_English + 9.1% North_Swedish @ 2.77


Meath, Cavan:
# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 51.84
2 Baltic 21.49
3 West_Med 12.75
4 West_Asian 8.62
5 East_Med 2.52
6 South_Asian 1.78
7 Oceanian 0.99

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Irish 3.61
2 West_Scottish 3.79
3 Southwest_English 4.1
4 Orcadian 4.49
5 Southeast_English 4.87
6 North_Dutch 5.59
7 Danish 6.01
8 North_German 7.36
9 Norwegian 7.64
10 South_Dutch 8.61
11 West_German 9.59
12 Swedish 10.16
13 French 13.31
14 Austrian 15.75
15 East_German 16.39
16 North_Swedish 16.5
17 Spanish_Cataluna 19.98
18 Hungarian 20.39
19 Southwest_French 21.22
20 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 21.28

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 95.4% West_Scottish + 4.6% Abhkasian @ 2.27
2 95.2% West_Scottish + 4.8% Georgian @ 2.3
3 94.8% West_Scottish + 5.2% Ossetian @ 2.34
4 95.9% West_Scottish + 4.1% Brahui @ 2.44
5 95.8% West_Scottish + 4.2% Balochi @ 2.45
6 95.8% West_Scottish + 4.2% Makrani @ 2.46
7 94.9% West_Scottish + 5.1% Adygei @ 2.47
8 95% West_Scottish + 5% North_Ossetian @ 2.47
9 94.9% West_Scottish + 5.1% Balkar @ 2.48
10 94.7% West_Scottish + 5.3% Chechen @ 2.5
11 94.5% West_Scottish + 5.5% Tabassaran @ 2.52
12 94.7% West_Scottish + 5.3% Lezgin @ 2.52
13 95.5% West_Scottish + 4.5% Armenian @ 2.54
14 95.4% West_Scottish + 4.6% Kurdish @ 2.55
15 94.9% West_Scottish + 5.1% Kabardin @ 2.56
16 94.8% West_Scottish + 5.2% Kumyk @ 2.57
17 95.2% West_Scottish + 4.8% Azeri @ 2.66
18 95.6% West_Scottish + 4.4% Iranian @ 2.66
19 95.2% West_Scottish + 4.8% Afghan_Pashtun @ 2.67
20 95.1% West_Scottish + 4.9% Turkish @ 2.71


Wexford, Wicklow, Dublin:
# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 48.14
2 Baltic 24.43
3 West_Med 15.79
4 West_Asian 6.61
5 South_Asian 1.93
6 East_Med 1.67
7 Amerindian 0.6
8 Red_Sea 0.55
9 Oceanian 0.28

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Orcadian 4.49
2 Southwest_English 4.49
3 Southeast_English 4.57
4 Irish 4.8
5 North_Dutch 5.4
6 West_Scottish 5.62
7 Danish 5.81
8 North_German 6.12
9 South_Dutch 6.3
10 Norwegian 7.22
11 West_German 7.67
12 Swedish 8.61
13 French 11.58
14 Austrian 12.18
15 East_German 12.38
16 North_Swedish 14.15
17 Hungarian 17.1
18 Spanish_Cataluna 18.52
19 Southwest_French 18.89
20 Spanish_Cantabria 19.66

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 86.4% Southwest_English + 13.6% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.39
2 76.3% Southwest_English + 23.7% East_German @ 2.44
3 86.9% Southwest_English + 13.1% Ukrainian @ 2.47
4 85.4% Southwest_English + 14.6% Croatian @ 2.49
5 81.9% North_German + 18.1% French_Basque @ 2.52
6 86.3% Southwest_English + 13.7% Moldavian @ 2.53
7 88.8% Southwest_English + 11.2% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.57
8 90.4% Southwest_English + 9.6% Erzya @ 2.58
9 86% Southwest_English + 14% South_Polish @ 2.6
10 89.5% Southwest_English + 10.5% Kargopol_Russian @ 2.63
11 87.2% Southwest_English + 12.8% Polish @ 2.65
12 88.9% Southwest_English + 11.1% Southwest_Russian @ 2.68
13 88.7% Southwest_English + 11.3% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.7
14 76.9% Southwest_English + 23.1% Austrian @ 2.72
15 89.2% Southwest_English + 10.8% Estonian_Polish @ 2.81
16 82.9% Southwest_English + 17.1% Hungarian @ 2.85
17 90.3% Southwest_English + 9.7% Lithuanian @ 2.92
18 92.6% Irish + 7.4% Sardinian @ 2.94
19 89.5% Southwest_English + 10.5% Belorussian @ 2.97
20 90.8% Southwest_English + 9.2% Tatar @ 2.98


Dublin:
# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 54.22
2 Baltic 21.29
3 West_Med 12.89
4 West_Asian 6.22
5 East_Med 2.6
6 Red_Sea 1.25
7 South_Asian 1
8 Siberian 0.47
9 Northeast_African 0.04
10 Amerindian 0.02

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 West_Scottish 2.54
2 Southwest_English 3.24
3 Irish 3.45
4 Orcadian 4.2
5 Southeast_English 4.86
6 North_Dutch 5.98
7 Danish 6.57
8 Norwegian 7.7
9 North_German 8.67
10 South_Dutch 9.69
11 Swedish 10.73
12 West_German 11.12
13 French 13.99
14 North_Swedish 17.06
15 Austrian 17.37
16 East_German 17.91
17 Spanish_Cataluna 20.38
18 Southwest_French 21.31
19 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 21.46
20 Spanish_Cantabria 21.7

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 94.7% West_Scottish + 5.3% French_Basque @ 2.12
2 94.8% West_Scottish + 5.2% Spanish_Aragon @ 2.2
3 95.2% West_Scottish + 4.8% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 2.27
4 95.7% West_Scottish + 4.3% Spanish_Andalucia @ 2.28
5 95.4% West_Scottish + 4.6% Spanish_Murcia @ 2.29
6 95.1% West_Scottish + 4.9% Spanish_Cataluna @ 2.32
7 95.7% West_Scottish + 4.3% Spanish_Valencia @ 2.32
8 95.4% West_Scottish + 4.6% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 2.32
9 95.9% West_Scottish + 4.1% Spanish_Extremadura @ 2.33
10 69.2% West_Scottish + 30.8% Southwest_English @ 2.33
11 95.6% West_Scottish + 4.4% Spanish_Cantabria @ 2.34
12 96.1% West_Scottish + 3.9% Portuguese @ 2.37
13 96.1% West_Scottish + 3.9% Southwest_French @ 2.39
14 96.2% West_Scottish + 3.8% Spanish_Galicia @ 2.39
15 98.5% West_Scottish + 1.5% Sardinian @ 2.41
16 98.5% West_Scottish + 1.5% Sephardic_Jewish @ 2.42
17 94.9% West_Scottish + 5.1% French @ 2.43
18 97.4% West_Scottish + 2.6% North_Italian @ 2.43
19 97.9% West_Scottish + 2.1% Tuscan @ 2.43
20 98.6% West_Scottish + 1.4% Italian_Jewish @ 2.44

Can someone explain in plain English what those results mean. I have an idea but not fully sure.

JamesBond007
05-26-2021, 08:24 AM
Can someone explain in plain English what those results mean. I have an idea but not fully sure.

They mean nothing Eurogenes K13 says I am 'Irish' and Eurogenes K15 says 'SouthWest English'

Sikeliot probably hates the Irish as an Italian and Eurogenes was made by a nationalistic Polack.

Leto
05-26-2021, 11:38 AM
They mean nothing Eurogenes K13 says I am 'Irish' and Eurogenes K15 says 'SouthWest English'

Sikeliot probably hates the Irish as an Italian and Eurogenes was made by a nationalistic Polack.
Can you please post your full results from K13? INCLUDING the noise. I mean we all know that 1% Sub-Saharan or Oceanian or whatever is usually not genuine. But if you remove that it will somehow affect your plotting. I'm asking for the Members' spreadsheet 'cause your values don't add up to 100 percent.

Grace O'Malley
05-26-2021, 11:47 AM
Can someone explain in plain English what those results mean. I have an idea but not fully sure.

Once you have a dna test you can upload your raw dna to a site called GEDMatch which has all these calculators you can use to compare your dna to other populations. Most Irish will match other Northwestern Europeans such as English, Scots, Orcadians, North Dutch etc. I only get Ireland as my no 1 match on the MDLP K23b but myself and my family's kits were some of the ones used to make the Irish average.

Jana
06-08-2021, 04:46 PM
Posted this in fresh thread but thought bumping this would be relevant for Irish users.

Born and raised in England, parents are both Irish. Mums family comes from Down and Tyrone (all catholic as far as we know so far). Fathers family is mostly north Louth, just outside Dundalk along the border, has some ancestry in South Armagh too.

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 47.63
2 Baltic 26
3 West_Med 12.78
4 West_Asian 8.26
5 East_Med 3.14
6 Red_Sea 1.55
7 South_Asian 0.47
8 Amerindian 0.16


Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 North_German 3.16
2 North_Dutch 3.71
3 Danish 4.2
4 Orcadian 4.92
5 Irish 5.1
6 Southeast_English 5.47
7 Norwegian 5.53
8 West_Scottish 6.12
9 Southwest_English 6.33
10 South_Dutch 6.58
11 Swedish 6.62
12 West_German 7.29
13 Austrian 10.76
14 East_German 11.16
15 North_Swedish 12.23
16 French 12.67
17 Hungarian 15.47
18 Southwest_Finnish 19.73
19 Spanish_Cataluna 20.31
20 Croatian 20.65

I appear to have the lowest North_Atlantic score from anyone in this thread so far. Not sure if that's anything to do with my results being from 23andme (V5.9 update).

Here are your manually modified K13 results, if you tested with 23andme V4 which tests more snps your results should look close to this.
Looks lot more natural.


Sharpshooter,49.62,22.93,12.73,9.35,2.95,1.56,0.47 ,0,0.67,0,0,0,0

https://i.ibb.co/0cGWzyV/ss1.png (https://imgbb.com/)

https://i.ibb.co/H79Jwcf/ss2.png (https://imgbb.com/)

Sharpshooter
06-08-2021, 05:17 PM
Here are your manually modified K13 results, if you tested with 23andme V4 which tests more snps your results should look close to this.
Looks lot more natural.


Sharpshooter,49.62,22.93,12.73,9.35,2.95,1.56,0.47 ,0,0.67,0,0,0,0

https://i.ibb.co/0cGWzyV/ss1.png (https://imgbb.com/)

https://i.ibb.co/H79Jwcf/ss2.png (https://imgbb.com/)

Thank You! I'm actually waiting for dna.land to complete my VCF file, waited since last Thursday, said if it hadn't been done within a week to email them. But I appreciate you doing this in the mean time.

J. Ketch
06-13-2021, 10:46 AM
My dad's Superkit - even more Scandinavian/Germanic!

1 North_Atlantic 53.54
2 Baltic 26.51
3 West_Med 9.96
4 West_Asian 4.03
5 East_Med 2.95
6 South_Asian 1.62
7 Sub-Saharan 0.68
8 Amerindian 0.42
9 Siberian 0.19
10 Oceanian 0.1

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Danish 3.54
2 North_Dutch 3.62
3 Norwegian 3.62
4 Orcadian 3.97
5 West_Scottish 4.12
6 Irish 4.3
7 Southeast_English 5.75
8 North_German 6.39
9 Swedish 6.39
10 Southwest_English 6.44
11 South_Dutch 11.05
12 West_German 12
13 North_Swedish 12.53
14 East_German 15.91
15 Austrian 16.06
16 French 16.62
17 Hungarian 20.34
18 Southwest_Finnish 20.82
19 Spanish_Cataluna 23.61
20 South_Polish 24.44

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 56.4% Norwegian + 43.6% West_Scottish @ 2.71
2 60% Danish + 40% West_Scottish @ 2.99
3 66.5% West_Scottish + 33.5% Swedish @ 2.99
4 56.3% Norwegian + 43.7% Orcadian @ 3.01
5 74.2% Norwegian + 25.8% Southwest_English @ 3.03
6 71.4% Norwegian + 28.6% Southeast_English @ 3.05
7 61.2% Norwegian + 38.8% Irish @ 3.08
8 81.7% West_Scottish + 18.3% North_Swedish @ 3.09
9 53.3% Danish + 46.7% Norwegian @ 3.24
10 89% West_Scottish + 11% Southwest_Finnish @ 3.25
11 91.2% West_Scottish + 8.8% La_Brana-1 @ 3.25
12 67.3% Danish + 32.7% Irish @ 3.27
13 95% Norwegian + 5% French_Basque @ 3.27
14 61.8% North_Dutch + 38.2% West_Scottish @ 3.27
15 91.5% West_Scottish + 8.5% Finnish @ 3.3
16 63.6% Danish + 36.4% Orcadian @ 3.31
17 92% West_Scottish + 8% Estonian @ 3.33
18 50.1% North_Dutch + 49.9% Norwegian @ 3.35
19 95.5% Norwegian + 4.5% Spanish_Aragon @ 3.4
20 93.3% West_Scottish + 6.7% Lithuanian @ 3.4



Distance to: CreodaDad
3.74834630 Dutch_North
3.86412992 Icelandic
4.01749922 Denmark
4.08189907 Norwegian
4.08820254 Norway_South_Central
4.40448635 Orcadian
4.45908062 Sweden_Götaland
4.59338655 West_Scottish
4.95998992 Dutch_Central
5.44892650 Scottish
5.47080433 Irish_Connacht
5.47545432 Irish_Munster
5.56620158 English_North
5.59522118 Dutch
5.62433107 Irish
5.88472599 Sweden_Svealand_West
5.90020339 Irish_Leinster
5.97528242 Irish_Ulster
6.01106480 German_Northwest
6.26059103 Welsh

Target: CreodaDad
Distance: 2.7361% / 2.73608306
54.8 Norway_South_Central
45.2 West_Scottish

Luke35
06-13-2021, 01:26 PM
Thank You! I'm actually waiting for dna.land to complete my VCF file, waited since last Thursday, said if it hadn't been done within a week to email them. But I appreciate you doing this in the mean time.

Have you had any luck getting dna.land to complete the VCF file?

Ayetooey
06-13-2021, 01:28 PM
My dad's Superkit - even more Scandinavian/Germanic!

1 North_Atlantic 53.54
2 Baltic 26.51
3 West_Med 9.96
4 West_Asian 4.03
5 East_Med 2.95
6 South_Asian 1.62
7 Sub-Saharan 0.68
8 Amerindian 0.42
9 Siberian 0.19
10 Oceanian 0.1

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Danish 3.54
2 North_Dutch 3.62
3 Norwegian 3.62
4 Orcadian 3.97
5 West_Scottish 4.12
6 Irish 4.3
7 Southeast_English 5.75
8 North_German 6.39
9 Swedish 6.39
10 Southwest_English 6.44
11 South_Dutch 11.05
12 West_German 12
13 North_Swedish 12.53
14 East_German 15.91
15 Austrian 16.06
16 French 16.62
17 Hungarian 20.34
18 Southwest_Finnish 20.82
19 Spanish_Cataluna 23.61
20 South_Polish 24.44

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 56.4% Norwegian + 43.6% West_Scottish @ 2.71
2 60% Danish + 40% West_Scottish @ 2.99
3 66.5% West_Scottish + 33.5% Swedish @ 2.99
4 56.3% Norwegian + 43.7% Orcadian @ 3.01
5 74.2% Norwegian + 25.8% Southwest_English @ 3.03
6 71.4% Norwegian + 28.6% Southeast_English @ 3.05
7 61.2% Norwegian + 38.8% Irish @ 3.08
8 81.7% West_Scottish + 18.3% North_Swedish @ 3.09
9 53.3% Danish + 46.7% Norwegian @ 3.24
10 89% West_Scottish + 11% Southwest_Finnish @ 3.25
11 91.2% West_Scottish + 8.8% La_Brana-1 @ 3.25
12 67.3% Danish + 32.7% Irish @ 3.27
13 95% Norwegian + 5% French_Basque @ 3.27
14 61.8% North_Dutch + 38.2% West_Scottish @ 3.27
15 91.5% West_Scottish + 8.5% Finnish @ 3.3
16 63.6% Danish + 36.4% Orcadian @ 3.31
17 92% West_Scottish + 8% Estonian @ 3.33
18 50.1% North_Dutch + 49.9% Norwegian @ 3.35
19 95.5% Norwegian + 4.5% Spanish_Aragon @ 3.4
20 93.3% West_Scottish + 6.7% Lithuanian @ 3.4



Distance to: CreodaDad
3.74834630 Dutch_North
3.86412992 Icelandic
4.01749922 Denmark
4.08189907 Norwegian
4.08820254 Norway_South_Central
4.40448635 Orcadian
4.45908062 Sweden_Götaland
4.59338655 West_Scottish
4.95998992 Dutch_Central
5.44892650 Scottish
5.47080433 Irish_Connacht
5.47545432 Irish_Munster
5.56620158 English_North
5.59522118 Dutch
5.62433107 Irish
5.88472599 Sweden_Svealand_West
5.90020339 Irish_Leinster
5.97528242 Irish_Ulster
6.01106480 German_Northwest
6.26059103 Welsh

Target: CreodaDad
Distance: 2.7361% / 2.73608306
54.8 Norway_South_Central
45.2 West_Scottish

Looks more Anglo-Saxon than actual English.

Ayetooey
06-13-2021, 01:34 PM
Have you had any luck getting dna.land to complete the VCF file?

Cant speak for him but put through my gfs kit months ago and the VCF never came back. Seems like it doesn’t work anymore.

Dnagenics does a imputation service but I wouldn’t recommend it. Tested a couple of v5 kits through this service to compare them to v3 kits I already own to see how “legit” the service is. Gave them all 3.5% ssa 3% Amerindian etc.

J. Ketch
06-13-2021, 01:51 PM
Looks more Anglo-Saxon than actual English.
He's an outlier, and I can say that after looking at hundreds of kits. Even so, those sort of almost Scandinavian results are more common among Irish and Scottish than among English, but then the opposite of very low Baltic is also more common - drifting off into the Atlantic abyss.

Weird thing is he has no ancestry from the East Coast where the Norse were, it's nearly all from the Midlands and some from Connacht. I tend to think it has as much or more to do with the area being relatively untouched by 'Celtic' influence, as having Germanic influence. The Midlands did have a lot of English influence though, the county he's from was previously known as King's County, and one of the first to be planted.

Ayetooey
06-13-2021, 02:04 PM
He's an outlier, and I can say that after looking at hundreds of kits. Even so, those sort of almost Scandinavian results are more common among Irish and Scottish than among English, but then the opposite of very low Baltic is also more common - drifting off into the Atlantic abyss.

Weird thing is he has no ancestry from the East Coast where the Norse were, it's nearly all from the Midlands and some from Connacht. I tend to think it has as much or more to do with the area being relatively untouched by 'Celtic' influence, as having Germanic influence. The Midlands did have a lot of English influence though, the county he's from was previously known as King's County, and one of the first to be planted.

What do his commercial results look like? Anything Germanic?

And yeah, I was going to say. Such results could just as easily be due to high levels of retained beaker ancestry rather than Scandinavian input. From what I’ve seen Germanic Y dna in Ireland does seem to cluster on the east coast and not elsewhere and I think that says something.

Sharpshooter
06-13-2021, 02:04 PM
Have you had any luck getting dna.land to complete the VCF file?

Nope. Emailed them on Thursday and haven't got a response.

I'll buy an AncestryDNA kit in the next few days. My mums agreed to have one done (who's fully Ulster Irish) so I'll post her results too when they come through.

J. Ketch
06-13-2021, 02:17 PM
What do his commercial results look like? Anything Germanic?

And yeah, I was going to say. Such results could just as easily be due to high levels of retained beaker ancestry rather than Scandinavian input. From what I’ve seen Germanic Y dna in Ireland does seem to cluster on the east coast and not elsewhere and I think that says something.
100% Irish on FTDNA and MH, and 89% Irish on LivingDNA (considering fully Irish Sharpshooter gets less than 50%, that's a lot).

Sharpshooter
06-13-2021, 03:04 PM
100% Irish on FTDNA and MH, and 89% Irish on LivingDNA (considering fully Irish Sharpshooter gets less than 50%, that's a lot).

I think he's more typical though of what an Irish should get.

Here's someone from an Irish forum posting his results (ancestrydna top post #766, livingdna results post 771# down below) he's also a poster with 2,500+ posts on anthrogenica forums.

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=116483053

He's from Northern Ireland, his mother is West Ulster Irish Catholic from Derry City/Donegal/Tyrone, and his father is mostly Ulster-Scot with some native ulster Irish ancestry.

He scored 85.1% Irish on LivingDNA and his mostly Ulster Scot protestant father scored 37.3% Irish.

He's got more planter/non-Irish ancestry than I have, and yet my results correlate more with his protestant father, which doesn't make sense.

He recently posted in this thread on anthrogenica, I have an account there now so I might bump it and confuse him more with my results lol.
https://anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?19020-Living-DNA-Northern-Irish-results/page2

J. Ketch
06-13-2021, 03:19 PM
I think he's more typical though of what an Irish should get.

Here's someone from an Irish forum posting his results (ancestrydna top post #766, livingdna results post 771# down below) he's also a poster with 2,500+ posts on anthrogenica forums.

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=116483053

He's from Northern Ireland, his mother is West Ulster Irish Catholic from Derry City/Donegal/Tyrone, and his father is mostly Ulster-Scot with some native ulster Irish ancestry.

He scored 85.1% Irish on LivingDNA and his mostly Ulster Scot protestant scored 37.3% Irish.

He's got more planter/non-Irish ancestry than I have, and yet my results correlate more with his protestant father, which doesn't make sense.

He recently posted in this thread on anthrogenica, I have an account there so I might bump it and confuse him more with my results lol.
https://anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?19020-Living-DNA-Northern-Irish-results/page2
Tread carefully with him, he once went off at me for using the wink smiley in a post about AncestryDNA results :lol:


What are you winking about though? Is that supposed to be a dig for those of us from Northern Ireland? This is a controversial topic, so i'd advise you not to be messing about.

Sharpshooter
07-25-2021, 05:46 PM
I got my AncestryDNA results today. As you were all aware I posted my 23andme results on page 5 post #42. A lot of people were suggesting my 23andme gedmatch results were likely faulty given it used the V5 chip and made my results more Germanic looking than they should be, so here are my AncestryDNA k13 results now uploaded from gedmatch:

Population
North_Atlantic 47.57 Pct
Baltic 25.74 Pct
West_Med 13.48 Pct
West_Asian 7.83 Pct
East_Med 3.61 Pct
Red_Sea 0.74 Pct
South_Asian -
East_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian 0.81 Pct
Oceanian 0.21 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

Almost identical to my 23andme V5 chip results. So either both are wrong or this genuinely are what my results look like?

Sharpshooter
07-25-2021, 05:49 PM
Distance to: Sharpshooter
3.72330498 German_Northwest
3.79952629 Dutch
3.80053944 English_Southeast
3.99557255 English_Midlands
4.00988778 English
4.01646611 North_German
4.24522084 English_North
4.31742979 Dutch_Central
4.37251644 English_Southwest
4.53013245 Cornish
4.61411963 Welsh
4.88021516 Dutch_South
4.91515005 Scottish_Northeast
4.95502775 Scottish_East
5.06782004 French_Northwest
5.07178470 Dutch_North
5.12443168 Scottish_North_Highlands
5.17751871 Scottish
5.24188897 Scottish_Gaidhealtachd
5.31962405 Orcadian
5.41550552 German_West
5.44071686 Scottish_Southwest
5.53099449 Irish_Leinster
5.66586269 Icelandic
5.66807728 Flemish
6.05147916 German
6.35526553 Denmark
6.38385463 Irish
6.43558855 Irish_Connacht
6.44346956 Belgian
6.56272809 Norwegian
6.88864283 Afrikaner
6.97143457 Irish_Munster
6.98988555 West_Scottish
7.00189260 Sweden_Götaland
7.05309152 Norway_South_Central
7.30081502 Irish_Ulster
7.96165184 Sweden_Svealand_West
7.96949183 Swedish
9.32127137 German_South
9.32718607 French_Northeast
10.34569959 French_Alsace
10.57415718 Pennsylvania_Dutch
10.85135475 Sweden_Svealand_East
11.07441195 Swiss_German2
11.46566614 Swiss_German
12.21078212 Austrian
13.46520702 French_Central
13.86242403 German_East
14.64603018 Swiss_French

Luke35
07-25-2021, 08:26 PM
I got my AncestryDNA results today. As you were all aware I posted my 23andme results on page 5 post #42. A lot of people were suggesting my 23andme gedmatch results were likely faulty given it used the V5 chip and made my results more Germanic looking than they should be, so here are my AncestryDNA k13 results now uploaded from gedmatch:

Population
North_Atlantic 47.57 Pct
Baltic 25.74 Pct
West_Med 13.48 Pct
West_Asian 7.83 Pct
East_Med 3.61 Pct
Red_Sea 0.74 Pct
South_Asian -
East_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian 0.81 Pct
Oceanian 0.21 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

Almost identical to my 23andme V5 chip results. So either both are wrong or this genuinely are what my results look like?

What I find interesting is that in spite of an atypical NA score that pushes you toward NW Germany (K13), your 23andMe results look very good.

How did AncestryDNA do with your ethnic breakdown?

Lemgrant
07-25-2021, 09:33 PM
Cant speak for him but put through my gfs kit months ago and the VCF never came back. Seems like it doesn’t work anymore.

Dnagenics does a imputation service but I wouldn’t recommend it. Tested a couple of v5 kits through this service to compare them to v3 kits I already own to see how “legit” the service is. Gave them all 3.5% ssa 3% Amerindian etc.

I saw a few days ago that nebula genomics also makes the imputation for free. https://nebula.org/free-dna-upload-analysis/

Sharpshooter
07-25-2021, 09:46 PM
What I find interesting is that in spite of an atypical NA score that pushes you toward NW Germany (K13), your 23andMe results look very good.

How did AncestryDNA do with your ethnic breakdown?

Ireland 79%
Scotland 21%

I'm going to be posting a thread about my results in the AncestryDNA section shortly.

JamesBond007
07-25-2021, 10:11 PM
Ireland 79%
Scotland 21%

I'm going to be posting a thread about my results in the AncestryDNA section shortly.

AncestryDNA and 23andme are not science they are too commercialized in "tell customer what they want to hear" instead of the truth.

The truth doesn't sell well in the capitalist market place :


Truth has no manners. It is no respecter of persons. It wounds kings as deeply as commoners. It cuts down the high, and confirms the lowness of the low. It may dress up for formal occasions, but it does so only in order that it may more shockingly expose itself in front of the assembled company. And just as it respects no one, likewise there are few who respect it. But those who do are granted many favors -- power, understanding, dominion, and of course the honor of the unswerving hatred of the ignorant millions.

Compare your official 23andme results with real science :

http://genetics.cs.ucla.edu/spa/

^ Now so not get me wrong I am not saying K13 is correct for you either as it is mentally retarded Polack science IMHO.

Sharpshooter
07-26-2021, 06:43 PM
Is it normal for siblings to show significant discrepancies? My brother also got his AncestryDNA results, here are his gedmatch results:

My brother:
North_Atlantic 50.69 Pct
Baltic 25.82 Pct
West_Med 13.96 Pct
West_Asian 6.49 Pct
East_Med -
Red_Sea 0.17 Pct
South_Asian - 1.69
East_Asian -
Siberian - 0.25
Amerindian 0.77 Pct
Oceanian 0.13 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

Mine:
North_Atlantic 47.57 Pct
Baltic 25.74 Pct
West_Med 13.48 Pct
West_Asian 7.83 Pct
East_Med 3.61 Pct
Red_Sea 0.74 Pct
South_Asian -
East_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian 0.81 Pct
Oceanian 0.21 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

His results are more typical for what an ethnic Irish person should be getting, so naturally his closest population distances are Scottish and Irish, whereas mine are Northwest German and Dutch.

My AncestryDNA results were:
Irish 79%
Scottish 21%

His:
Irish 80%
Scottish 15%
Welsh 3%
English and Northwest Europe 2%

So little difference there.

Luke35
07-28-2021, 10:42 PM
Is it normal for siblings to show significant discrepancies? My brother also got his AncestryDNA results, here are his gedmatch results:

My brother:
North_Atlantic 50.69 Pct
Baltic 25.82 Pct
West_Med 13.96 Pct
West_Asian 6.49 Pct
East_Med -
Red_Sea 0.17 Pct
South_Asian - 1.69
East_Asian -
Siberian - 0.25
Amerindian 0.77 Pct
Oceanian 0.13 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

Mine:
North_Atlantic 47.57 Pct
Baltic 25.74 Pct
West_Med 13.48 Pct
West_Asian 7.83 Pct
East_Med 3.61 Pct
Red_Sea 0.74 Pct
South_Asian -
East_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian 0.81 Pct
Oceanian 0.21 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

His results are more typical for what an ethnic Irish person should be getting, so naturally his closest population distances are Scottish and Irish, whereas mine are Northwest German and Dutch.

My AncestryDNA results were:
Irish 79%
Scottish 21%

His:
Irish 80%
Scottish 15%
Welsh 3%
English and Northwest Europe 2%

So little difference there.

I think your results reflect a reasonable range - from what I have seen a given component (i.e. North Atlantic, Baltic, etc) can differ by as much as 2-3%, between siblings.

Ayetooey
07-29-2021, 02:12 PM
Is it normal for siblings to show significant discrepancies? My brother also got his AncestryDNA results, here are his gedmatch results:

My brother:
North_Atlantic 50.69 Pct
Baltic 25.82 Pct
West_Med 13.96 Pct
West_Asian 6.49 Pct
East_Med -
Red_Sea 0.17 Pct
South_Asian - 1.69
East_Asian -
Siberian - 0.25
Amerindian 0.77 Pct
Oceanian 0.13 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

Mine:
North_Atlantic 47.57 Pct
Baltic 25.74 Pct
West_Med 13.48 Pct
West_Asian 7.83 Pct
East_Med 3.61 Pct
Red_Sea 0.74 Pct
South_Asian -
East_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian 0.81 Pct
Oceanian 0.21 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

His results are more typical for what an ethnic Irish person should be getting, so naturally his closest population distances are Scottish and Irish, whereas mine are Northwest German and Dutch.

My AncestryDNA results were:
Irish 79%
Scottish 21%

His:
Irish 80%
Scottish 15%
Welsh 3%
English and Northwest Europe 2%

So little difference there.

Yeah there's quite a few differences there, your brother even has 0% east med vs your 3 and a half percent..