Place Cindy Crawford

[MobyD]

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[Hadouken]

Atlanto Med

[Centurion]

France.

[Zroota]

Atlanto-Med.

Iberia and Sicily.

[MobyD]

Bump

[Gaditanian]

Italy - Tuscany

[Laag]

Med

[chociprasa]

Pan-Mediterranean.

[Knight Slayer]

Mediterranean.

[Skye]

France. Though I believe her background is manly Anglo/British.

[Immanenz]

i dont think she looks that Southeuopean (or at all), Centralwest/NW with mtDNA H- that brown eyes, brown hair south, blue eyes blond north is too cheap and not true- she passes as atypicalv though because people in real life only focus on the very obvious.

[Arūnas]

Isreal

[MobyD]

Isreal

Seriously?

[ixulescu]

she doesn't fit well anywhere in Europe, maybe the closest is Welsh.

[Gallop]

A Hispanic-American has, someone who had Spanish and Amerindian ancestry, as something colonial pre later mixtures that later have been given in Hispanic-America, something like the first milks. in addition to the American (U.S.A.) contribution it may have, God knows.

In addition to American contributions, in this case I am referring to the country, not the continent.

With this woman I have seen the mess that the Anglos have made for us with the terminology Spanish, Hispanic, America when you want to apply it to a specific case.


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[LorenzoSpitaleri]

BOOBA

[Erronkari]

France mainly.

I Know it’s not a rate thread but I give her a 10 of course.

[Erronkari]

i dont think she looks that Southeuopean (or at all), Centralwest/NW with mtDNA H- that brown eyes, brown hair south, blue eyes blond north is too cheap and not true- she passes as atypicalv though because people in real life only focus on the very obvious.

I do absolutely agree with this statement.
For that reason I would consider her as more typical in France followed by some places in UK.

[MobyD]

I do absolutely agree with this statement.
For that reason I would consider her as more typical in France followed by some places in UK.

South West England and Wales come to mind.

[Xacal]

Atlanto-Med. Southern Europe

[Immanenz]

I do absolutely agree with this statement.
For that reason I would consider her as more typical in France followed by some places in UK.

or West Germany for example. She looks like a mix of 3 ethncities like Welsh, British and German or French for example

[MobyD]

Atlanto-Med. Southern Europe

You're only looking at her pigmentation, she's definitely got strong Cro-Magnon influence. Overall, she looks more Northern/Central Euro if you observe her individual features (deep-set eyes, angular jawline, straight nasal profile, flaring gonial angles etc). I agree that she's on the 'exotic' side for her background. It can be difficult to place darker-pigmented individuals who aren't genetically Southern Euro.

Here are some photos of her from childhood to adolescence. As you can see, she's always been naturally tanned. Dark pigmentation is commonly associated with Paleo-Atlantids, which Cindy isn't too far off from...
https://hips.hearstapps.com/ell.h-cdn.co/assets/15/37/1441903863-cindycrawford-p015.jpg
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[Voskos]

Italy-Albania.

[RMuller]

You're only looking at her pigmentation, she's definitely got strong Cro-Magnon influence. Overall, she looks more Northern/Central Euro if you observe her individual features (deep-set eyes, angular jawline, straight nasal profile, flaring gonial angles etc). I agree that she's on the 'exotic' side for her background. It can be difficult to place darker-pigmented individuals who aren't genetically Southern Euro.

Here are some photos of her from childhood to adolescence. As you can see, she's always been naturally tanned. Dark pigmentation is commonly associated with Paleo-Atlantids, which Cindy isn't too far off from...
https://hips.hearstapps.com/ell.h-cdn.co/assets/15/37/1441903863-cindycrawford-p015.jpg
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/90/86/d6/9086d60639cb5efe05290a274b93f48b.jpg
https://cloudfront-us-east-1.images.arcpublishing.com/shawmedia/B2CG2Q3TLKSUE5ZCBLKM24YWXY.jpg

She looks exotic for a "white american".

[Creoda]

South West England and Wales come to mind.
Nope. Looks out of place there.

[Gallop]

You're only looking at her pigmentation, she's definitely got strong Cro-Magnon influence. Overall, she looks more Northern/Central Euro if you observe her individual features (deep-set eyes, angular jawline, straight nasal profile, flaring gonial angles etc). I agree that she's on the 'exotic' side for her background. It can be difficult to place darker-pigmented individuals who aren't genetically Southern Euro.

Here are some photos of her from childhood to adolescence. As you can see, she's always been naturally tanned. Dark pigmentation is commonly associated with Paleo-Atlantids, which Cindy isn't too far off from...
https://hips.hearstapps.com/ell.h-cdn.co/assets/15/37/1441903863-cindycrawford-p015.jpg
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/90/86/d6/9086d60639cb5efe05290a274b93f48b.jpg
https://cloudfront-us-east-1.images.arcpublishing.com/shawmedia/B2CG2Q3TLKSUE5ZCBLKM24YWXY.jpg

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Selena Gómez has some nice jaws, too.

[JamesBond007]

Nope. Looks out of place there.



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[Anglo-Celtic]

She's supposedly mostly English. We have the same features. Where would she fit in the British Isles or just England? Would it be in the western regions?

[Creoda]

She's supposedly mostly English. We have the same features. Where would she fit in the British Isles or just England? Would it be in the western regions?
Crawford is a Scottish name, she's mixed but majority Anglo-American seemingly (who are a bit mixed themselves). She's atypical anywhere in the British Isles but properly Meddish types like her are more common in Southern England.

[Didac]

France. Though I believe her background is manly Anglo/British.

With Americans 99% of the time it’s always mixed euro

She looks best for France/Spain

[Anglo-Celtic]

Crawford is a Scottish name, she's mixed but majority Anglo-American seemingly (who are a bit mixed themselves). She's atypical anywhere in the British Isles but properly Meddish types like her are most common in Southern England.

Surnames can be tricky (have at least one Crawford in my tree too). Evidently, she's mostly limey, but some jock is in her gorgeous mix. I guess that Southwest England is the homeland of us atypical Brits with brown eyes and brown hair. I'm in good company with her, but she's certainly prettier than me.

[Creoda]

Surnames can be tricky (have at least one Crawford in my tree too). Evidently, she's mostly limey, but some jock is in her gorgeous mix. I guess that Southwest England is the homeland of us atypical Brits with brown eyes and brown hair. I'm in good company with her, but she's certainly prettier than me.
She's no Limey, she's a Yankee through and through.

Limey = post US Independence British. The use of Lime in the Royal Navy started in the early 19th century.

[Anglo-Celtic]

She's no Limey, she's a Yankee through and through.

Limey = post US Independence British. The use of Lime in the Royal Navy started in the early 19th century.

Her ancestors were. People know what I mean by that.

[Didac]

Her ancestors were. People know what I mean by that.

She’s more than likely mixed euro has probably some English line some French line some Spanish line some Italian line

[Creoda]

As far as dark complexioned Anglo-Celtic models go I much prefer Elle Macpherson, but she still looks Northern Euro despite her colouring (and she doesn't have a wart on her face).

[Ellethwyn]

France...and couldn't she fit in well in Spain, too?

[Didac]

France...and couldn't she fit in well in Spain, too?

Easily yes but fits better in France

[MobyD]

As far as dark complexioned Anglo-Celtic models go I much prefer Elle Macpherson, but she still looks Northern Euro despite her colouring (and she doesn't have a wart on her face).

You don’t think Cindy has any Northern features? What if she was blonde and blue eyed, would you still see her as a ‘wog’?

[Creoda]

You don’t think Cindy has any Northern features? What if she was blonde and blue eyed, would you still see her as a ‘wog’?
Yes she has some Northern features, and I didn't say she was a wog. If she had blonde hair and blue eyes she still wouldn't look properly Northern European, she is also quite dark skinned, look at her school photo. I personally don't remember any girls who looked like that at school for example. Natural pigmentation is not some completely superficial feature in passing, it's part of what differentiates populations, even if it is overrated on this forum by certain people.

[Anglo-Celtic]

She’s more than likely mixed euro has probably some English line some French line some Spanish line some Italian line

She has remote French. That's as "exotic" as it gets.

[Anglo-Celtic]

I have to laugh at some of these guesses. As crazy as it seems, many British people have brown eyes and brown hair. I'm guessed as Southern European more than British Isles, though. I'm almost entirely limey, mick, jock, taff, and redneck.

[Didac]

She has remote French. That's as "exotic" as it gets.

We’ll never know until she takes a dna test self reported dna by Americans is the most unreliable thing ever

[Anglo-Celtic]

We’ll never know until she takes a dna test self reported dna by Americans is the most unreliable thing ever

I just went by the info on Ethnic Celebs. I bet that she has no more Italian than I do, and that ain't much.

[Grace O'Malley]

She looks American to me. If I saw her in Dublin that would be my first guess. I would not guess her as Irish for instance. Her ancestry is mixed European but she has no Southern European ancestry. This is her known ancestry -English, one eighth Danish, as well as Scots-Irish/Northern Irish, Scottish, German, distant Irish and Welsh, remote French and Jersey Channel Islander.

Her Crawford name is from Antrim but obviously that is Ulster Scots. Her Great Grandfather was from Antrim and he was a Crawford but his mother was a McCaughey which would have Irish origin.

I think her colouring influences people in where they think she can pass but her features are not particularly non-Northern European to me. She just has darker colouring than what people associate with her ancestry. I think she passes in Southern Europe as well as her features are a bit similar to Monica Bellucci although I think Monica is more beautiful IMO.

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[Grace O'Malley]

We’ll never know until she takes a dna test self reported dna by Americans is the most unreliable thing ever

It's not self-reported. Her family tree is known. The only thing is some of her lines in the US go back to the 16th century so that might be more open to some exotic ancestry.

[Creoda]

I have to laugh at some of these guesses. As crazy as it seems, many British people have brown eyes and brown hair. I'm guessed as Southern European more than British Isles, though. I'm almost entirely limey, mick, jock, taff, and redneck.
Most British people have brown hair, many have dark eyes (about 1/4), less than 10% have properly brown eyes like her, and a minority have type III skin like her. All those features combined with her thick eyebrows, big lips, and big eyes, make her rather atypical.

[Grace O'Malley]

I have to laugh at some of these guesses. As crazy as it seems, many British people have brown eyes and brown hair. I'm guessed as Southern European more than British Isles, though. I'm almost entirely limey, mick, jock, taff, and redneck.

Features are more important than colouring. Matt Dillon looks quite Irish to me. I had a couple of uncles that looked quite similar to him.

https://dailylolpics.lolpics.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/Matt-Dillon.jpg

[Anglo-Celtic]

Her Crawford name is from Antrim but obviously that is Ulster Scots. Her Great Grandfather was from Antrim and he was a Crawford but his mother was a McCaughey which would have Irish origin.

I found McCoy, McKay, and McKee in my tree, and like surnames (like McCoy) can be Irish and/or Scottish. It would be less confusing if they just called them Gaels.

[Anglo-Celtic]

Most British people have brown hair, many have dark eyes (about 1/4), less than 10% have properly brown eyes like her, and a minority have type III skin like her. All those features combined with her thick eyebrows, big lips, and big eyes, make her rather atypical.

I don't doubt it. My proper brown eyes would likely fit in in just the most remote enclaves of the western fringe where the lost tribes live.

[Grace O'Malley]

I found McCoy, McKay, and McKee in my tree, and like surnames (like McCoy) can be Irish and/or Scottish. It would be less confusing if they just called them Gaels.

I was lucky enough to have my brother to test so I know my father's ydna is M222 and he is S588. Closest match are McGees. I've uploaded to yfull and all on this are Northern Irish, Scots, Americans, a couple of Saffas and Canadians. Sorry forgot the Kiwis. :)

https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-S588/

[Anglo-Celtic]

Features are more important than colouring. Matt Dillon looks quite Irish to me. I had a couple of uncles that looked quite similar to him.

https://dailylolpics.lolpics.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/Matt-Dillon.jpg

He evidently has a bit of German, but he's mostly Irish. He shares my crazy skin situation where it doesn't know whether it wants to be rose or olive.

[Anglo-Celtic]

I was lucky enough to have my brother to test so I know my father's ydna is M222 and he is S588. Closest match are McGees. I've uploaded to yfull and all on this are Northern Irish, Scots, Americans, a couple of Saffas and Canadians. Sorry forgot the Kiwis. :)

https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-S588/

McGees keep popping up in my research, but I have yet to prove descent from them. The weird thing is that they match one of my forebears to a T, but they don't share the same surname, so where's Maury Povich when you need him?

[Creoda]

She looks American to me. If I saw her in Dublin that would be my first guess. I would not guess her as Irish for instance. Her ancestry is mixed European but she has no Southern European ancestry. This is her known ancestry -English, one eighth Danish, as well as Scots-Irish/Northern Irish, Scottish, German, distant Irish and Welsh, remote French and Jersey Channel Islander.

Her Crawford name is from Antrim but obviously that is Ulster Scots. Her Great Grandfather was from Antrim and he was a Crawford but his mother was a McCaughey which would have Irish origin.

I think her colouring influences people in where they think she can pass but her features are not particularly non-Northern European to me. She just has darker colouring than what people associate with her ancestry. I think she passes in Southern Europe as well as her features are a bit similar to Monica Bellucci although I think Monica is more beautiful IMO.

You went to school in Perth didn't you Grace? How many Anglo-Celtic girls do you remember looking like this? I personally can't think of any who were even close.

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https://www.simplemost.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Cindy-Crawford.jpg

[Grace O'Malley]

He evidently has a bit of German, but he's mostly Irish. He shares my crazy skin situation where it doesn't know whether it wants to be rose or olive.

Yes he's about 90% Irish with some German and Scots in the mix. He's a bit like Stephen Colbert who is almost fully Irish with 6% English/German. They both look Irish.

[Grace O'Malley]

You went to school in Perth didn't you Grace? How many Anglo-Celtic girls do you remember looking like this? I personally can't think of any who were even close.

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https://www.simplemost.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Cindy-Crawford.jpg

Yes I went to school in Perth. She doesn't look British/Irish even though she has some ancestry from there. Anglo-Celts here are very much blue eyed with freckled skin. Most Isles people with darker eyes are usually of the hazel variety. I think the US has more variety because they have more people with non-Isles ancestry. Most Aussies in the past were by vast majority of Isles ancestry.

[Anglo-Celtic]

Yes he's about 90% Irish with some German and Scots in the mix. He's a bit like Stephen Colbert who is almost fully Irish with 6% English/German. They both look Irish.

I have a French surname too. It shows the sometimes weak links between genomes and surnames, because I have just a bit more French than you do.

[Anglo-Celtic]

You went to school in Perth didn't you Grace? How many Anglo-Celtic girls do you remember looking like this? I personally can't think of any who were even close.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/ae/3d/aa/ae3daa40c67de5c0af5999f26cce7ed7.jpg
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https://www.simplemost.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Cindy-Crawford.jpg

My coloring was similar in grade school and high school. I wasn't quite that pretty, though. One thing seems clear. You guys would kick me out of the Anglo-Celtic club if you saw me in person. ;-)

[Grace O'Malley]

My coloring was similar in grade school and high school. I wasn't quite that pretty, though. One thing seems clear. You guys would kick me out of the Anglo-Celtic club if you saw me in person. ;-)

No I would never kick anyone out. The majority of people have certain traits but there is always some variance. If someone has majority Irish to me then they are Irish. Creoda might have a different view. Colin Farrell is a famous Irishman and people always comment on his colouring but he is fully Irish. One of my aunts had darker colouring which she was proud of. None of her children took after her though as they were redheads except one of her sons had dark hair, blue eyes but with the typical Irish fair skin. Irish are more varied than Scandinavians for example but even some Scandinavians can be dark. I did a thread here on Jason Miller who is nearly fully Irish but with a small amount of German. He played a Greek descent priest in the Exorcist. Feature wise he has nothing that is unusual for an Irishman as he looks similar to Gabriel Byrne. I think he looks Irish and there are some Irish that have darker colouring.

https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/actor-and-playwright-jason-miller-1972-picture-id537103165

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[Creoda]

My coloring was similar in grade school and high school. I wasn't quite that pretty, though. One thing seems clear. You guys would kick me out of the Anglo-Celtic club if you saw me in person. ;-)
Nah, swarthoids are just as Anglo-Celtic as anyone else, and I'd be surprised if you look as exotic as her, regardless of colouring.

[Grace O'Malley]

McGees keep popping up in my research, but I have yet to prove descent from them. The weird thing is that they match one of my forebears to a T, but they don't share the same surname, so where's Maury Povich when you need him?

McGee and McGeehan. One of them has their earliest ancestor in Virginia 1768.

[Anglo-Celtic]

Yes I went to school in Perth. She doesn't look British/Irish even though she has some ancestry from there. Anglo-Celts here are very much blue eyed with freckled skin. Most Isles people with darker eyes are usually of the hazel variety. I think the US has more variety because they have more people with non-Isles ancestry. Most Aussies in the past were by vast majority of Isles ancestry.

You said that she looks American. That sounds right, because we're our own breed. For instance, Irish Americans in New York City and South Boston almost seem like Martians in comparison to Irish people who live in rural regions. It's like they don't share the same planet, let alone the same ethnicity.

[Anglo-Celtic]

Nah, swarthoids are just as Anglo-Celtic as anyone else, and I'd be surprised if you look as exotic as her, regardless of colouring.

That's a good thing. Otherwise, guys would hit on me.

[Dick]

She's no Limey, she's a Yankee through and through.

The thing is most white people don't know or realize that NPE's (probably don't even know what NPE stands for) were much more common back in the day than nowadays especially before the advent of condoms or birth control pills. It's not just a black community thing.


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[Anglo-Celtic]

McGee and McGeehan. One of them has their earliest ancestor in Virginia 1768.

My bust; he was a McGuire (just checked). All of these "Mc" names can be confusing.

[Anglo-Celtic]

Move along. There's nothing to see here.

[Didac]

Throw in an odd redhead. Multiply it, and you have my entire extended family on both sides.


Did y’all get dna tests ?

[Anglo-Celtic]

Did y’all get dna tests ?

My cousin and my sister did, and they're both around 97% "British and Irish". I take it that you're not hinting that the mailman is my real dad.

[Didac]

My cousin and my sister did, and they're both around 97% "British and Irish". I take it that you're not hinting that the mailman is my real dad.

Maybe Tyrone paid ur mum a visit. Jk was just asking curious have you been able to figure out which british ethnic group it is via ancestryDna or gedmatch etc?

[Grace O'Malley]

Maybe Tyrone paid ur mum a visit. Jk was just asking curious have you been able to figure out which british ethnic group it is via ancestryDna or gedmatch etc?

Yes Tyrone Power. :thumb001: He was quite the heart throb of his era. I thought you were dismissive of Gedmatch?

[princeton90]

Atlantid-Dinarid

France and North Italy.

[Anglo-Celtic]

Maybe Tyrone paid ur mum a visit. Jk was just asking curious have you been able to figure out which british ethnic group it is via ancestryDna or gedmatch etc?

Nah, they got the 23andMe tests as gifts. We have Black Irish in the mix but not the Phil Lynott variety.

[Didac]

Nah, they got the 23andMe tests as gifts. We have Black Irish in the mix but not the Phil Lynott variety.

Ah ok

[Didac]

Yes Tyrone Power. :thumb001: He was quite the heart throb of his era. I thought you were dismissive of Gedmatch?

For the most part I am yes I think it’s way outdated and inaccurate for the most part. However the closest populations “IF” your of one full ethnicity or majority of that can be useful to confirm it

[MobyD]

Yes she has some Northern features, and I didn't say she was a wog. If she had blonde hair and blue eyes she still wouldn't look properly Northern European, she is also quite dark skinned, look at her school photo. I personally don't remember any girls who looked like that at school for example. Natural pigmentation is not some completely superficial feature in passing, it's part of what differentiates populations, even if it is overrated on this forum by certain people.

Her jawline is quite typical of her ancestry.

[Erronkari]

She looks very French to me.