K 36 Ancestry Report by LM Genetics.

[Slavic Italian]

I thought I would share some of my results and to be honest they did a good job with identifying much of my recent ancestry. This is a lot of info and yes I have a good bit of German.

nMonte3 (all references and without pen=0)
"distance%=8.149"
ONLY RESULTS ABOVE 0.4
Hessen,35 Nordrhein-Westfalen,12 IT_Aosta,3.8 Central_Ost_Preussen,3.6 NL_Noord_Holland,3.2 Baden-Württemberg,2.6 Hungary,2 IT_Trentino,1.8 IT_Veneto,1.8 Saarland,1.8 NL_Gelderland,1.6 FR_North-East,1.4 IT_Friuli,1.4 IT_Piemonte,1.4 NL_Utrecht,1.4 Croatia,1.2 Croats_BIH,1.2 IT_Emilia-Romagna,1.2 Mecklenburg-Vorpommern,1.2 Sachsen-Anhalt,1.2 Saxony,1.2 Swiss_Italian,1.2 IT_Ladinia,1 IT_Liguria,1 Malta,0.8 NL_Friesland,0.8 Belarus_Polesye,0.6 IT_Abruzzo,0.6 IT_Apulia,0.6 IT_Calabria,0.6 IT_Lazio,0.6 IT_Tuscany,0.6 Slovakia,0.6 Slovenia,0.6 Greater_Poland_Wielkopolska),0.4 IT_Marche,0.4 Oberland(western_Ost_Preussen),0.4 PL_North,0.4 PL_Subcarpathia,0.4 Sicily_Katania,0.4 Sicily_Trapani,0.4


Admix4 oracle (two methods, one of them is usually more speculative) The oracle works in a similar way to the Gedmatch Oracles, though the estimates here are far more robust. One shouldn‘t take all of them literaly, but rather as extreme examples of possible distant admixtures. Admix4 is a different tool which is similar to the Gedmatch oracles. it compares your frequencies to the list of most similar averages ( The same process as nMonte single item distances) or models you as a combination (two-way, three-way, or four-way) of different populations. In some cases it will be in line with the actual ethnic combination you inherited from your parents and grandparents ancestries. It may be the case that different populations show up in each oracle, especially for people of a mixed background.


Least-squares method.
Using 1 population approximation: 1 Baden-Württemberg @ 10,179362 2 Hessen @ 10,292532 3 Swiss_German @ 10,764303 4 Rheinland-Pfalz @ 10,826221 5 FR_North-East @ 11,190601 6 Bayern @ 11,193135 7 Walloons @ 11,824337 8 Flemish @ 12,006354 9 Dutch_Limburg @ 12,361425 10 Austria @ 12,817408 500 iterations.


Using 2 populations approximation: 1 Nordrhein-Westfalen+IT_Friuli @ 8,001311 2 Nordrhein-Westfalen+Albanians_Montenegro @ 8,175475 3 Nordrhein-Westfalen+Kosovo @ 8,291596 4 Nordrhein-Westfalen+IT_Trentino @ 8,292668 5 Nordrhein-Westfalen+IT_Veneto @ 8,351352 6 Dutch_Noord_Holland+IT_Friuli @ 8,376815 7 Nordrhein-Westfalen+Macedonia_FYROM @ 8,389177 8 Nordrhein-Westfalen+Montenegro @ 8,39587 9 Central_Ost_Preussen+IT_Aosta @ 8,450401 10 Dutch_Noord_Holland+IT_Trentino @ 8,485339 125250 iterations.


Using 3 populations approximation: 1 50% Nordrhein-Westfalen +25% IT_Tuscany +25% Croats_BIH @ 7,048468 2 50% Nordrhein-Westfalen +25% IT_Tuscany +25% Western_Serbians @ 7,093756
1.08.2018
author: Lukasz Macuga - www.lm-genetics.ovh
3 50% Nordrhein-Westfalen +25% IT_Emilia-Romagna +25% Western_Serbians @ 7,096532 4 50% Nordrhein-Westfalen +25% IT_Tuscany +25% South-West_Romania @ 7,10531 5 50% Nordrhein-Westfalen +25% IT_Emilia-Romagna +25% South-West_Romania @ 7,108452 6 50% Nordrhein-Westfalen +25% IT_Trentino +25% South-West_Romania @ 7,115502 7 50% Nordrhein-Westfalen +25% IT_Emilia-Romagna +25% Croats_BIH @ 7,116998 8 50% Nordrhein-Westfalen +25% IT_Tuscany +25% Bosniaks @ 7,131739 9 50% Nordrhein-Westfalen +25% Swiss_Italian +25% South-West_Romania @ 7,146415 10 50% Nordrhein-Westfalen +25% IT_Emilia-Romagna +25% Bosniaks @ 7,148976 49347500 iterations.
Using 4 populations approximation: 1 Nordrhein-Westfalen+Nordrhein-Westfalen+IT_Tuscany+Croats_BIH @ 7,048468 2 Nordrhein-Westfalen+Nordrhein-Westfalen+IT_Tuscany+Western_Serbians @ 7,093756 3 Nordrhein-Westfalen+Nordrhein-Westfalen+IT_Emilia-Romagna+Western_Serbians @ 7,096532 4 Nordrhein-Westfalen+Nordrhein-Westfalen+IT_Tuscany+South-West_Romania @ 7,10531 5 Nordrhein-Westfalen+Nordrhein-Westfalen+IT_Emilia-Romagna+South-West_Romania @ 7,108452 6 Nordrhein-Westfalen+Nordrhein-Westfalen+IT_Trentino+South-West_Romania @ 7,115502 7 Nordrhein-Westfalen+Nordrhein-Westfalen+IT_Emilia-Romagna+Croats_BIH @ 7,116998 8 Nordrhein-Westfalen+Nordrhein-Westfalen+IT_Tuscany+Bosniaks @ 7,131739 9 Nordrhein-Westfalen+Nordrhein-Westfalen+Swiss_Italian+South-West_Romania @ 7,146415 10 Nordrhein-Westfalen+Nordrhein-Westfalen+IT_Emilia-Romagna+Bosniaks @ 7,148976 11 Nordrhein-Westfalen+Nordrhein-Westfalen+IT_Tuscany+Croatia @ 7,190228 12 Central_Ost_Preussen+Nordrhein-Westfalen+Hessen+South_Albania @ 7,211893 13 Nordrhein-Westfalen+Nordrhein-Westfalen+IT_Tuscany+North-East_Romania @ 7,219668 14 Nordrhein-Westfalen+Nordrhein-Westfalen+IT_Trentino+Western_Serbians @ 7,226257 15 Nordrhein-Westfalen+Nordrhein-Westfalen+IT_Emilia-Romagna+North-East_Romania @ 7,238871 16 Nordrhein-Westfalen+Dutch_Noord_Holland+IT_Tuscany+Croats_BI H @ 7,239132 17 Central_Ost_Preussen+Nordrhein-Westfalen+FR_North-East+South_Albania @ 7,240721 18 Nordrhein-Westfalen+Nordrhein-Westfalen+IT_Emilia-Romagna+Croatia @ 7,249407 19 Nordrhein-Westfalen+Dutch_Noord_Holland+IT_Tuscany+Western_S erbians @ 7,252974 20 Nordrhein-Westfalen+Nordrhein-Westfalen+IT_Piemonte+South-West_Romania @ 7,267658 1071504007 iterations.


Gaussian method. Noise dispersion set to 0,130062
Using 1 population approximation: 1 Rheinland-Pfalz @ 5,507125 2 Swiss_German @ 5,739956 3 Austria @ 5,747878 4 FR_North-East @ 5,786699 5 IT_Piemonte @ 5,856853 6 IT_Friuli @ 5,954004 7 Baden-Württemberg @ 6,08371 8 Bosniaks @ 6,095115 9 IT_Trentino @ 6,128045 10 Western_Serbians @ 6,135166 500 iterations.


Using 2 populations approximation: 1 Nordrhein-Westfalen+GR_Vlach @ 3,886429 2 Neumark_East_Brandenburg+Swiss_Italian @ 4,030941 3 Neumark_East_Brandenburg+IT_Piemonte @ 4,160111 4 Nordrhein-Westfalen+IT_Friuli @ 4,248472 5 Sachsen-Anhalt+IT_Piemonte @ 4,258963 6 Nordrhein-Westfalen+IT_Piemonte @ 4,261775 7 Central_Ost_Preussen+IT_Piemonte @ 4,281799 8 Central_Ost_Preussen+Swiss_Italian @ 4,302886 9 Nordrhein-Westfalen+Swiss_Italian @ 4,353769 10 Neumark_East_Brandenburg+IT_Emilia-Romagna @ 4,384599 125250 iterations.


Using 3 populations approximation: 1 50% Nordrhein-Westfalen +25% Swiss_Italian +25% GR_Vlach @ 3,859663 2 50% Swiss_Italian +25% Neumark_East_Brandenburg +25% Nordrhein-Westfalen @ 3,8823 3 50% Nordrhein-Westfalen +25% GR_Vlach +25% GR_Vlach @ 3,886429 4 50% Nordrhein-Westfalen +25% GR_Vlach +25% Bosniaks @ 3,891993 5 50% IT_Piemonte +25% Neumark_East_Brandenburg +25% Nordrhein-Westfalen @ 3,929749 6 50% Nordrhein-Westfalen +25% IT_Piemonte +25% GR_Vlach @ 3,93282 7 50% Nordrhein-Westfalen +25% GR_Vlach +25% Western_Serbians @ 3,935345 8 50% Nordrhein-Westfalen +25% GR_Vlach +25% Croats_BIH @ 3,951678 9 50% Swiss_Italian +25% Nordrhein-Westfalen +25% RU_Voronezh @ 3,959895

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Posting the link would make it easier to read.

nonetheless, interesting.

Does it match your ancestry?

[Slavic Italian]

Posting the link would make it easier to read.

nonetheless, interesting.

Does it match your ancestry?

It matches my recent ancestry to a t going back 2 generations. After that.............Also, I am quite mixed and it did not pick up on a few things such as I have some Finnish, Chinese, and some Middle Eastern. But this is a very good test for two generations back.


1 Baden-Württemberg @ 10,179362
2 Hessen @ 10,292532
3 Swiss_German @ 10,764303
4 Rheinland-Pfalz @ 10,826221
5 FR_North-East @ 11,190601
6 Bayern @ 11,193135
7 Walloons @ 11,824337
8 Flemish @ 12,006354
9 Dutch_Limburg @ 12,361425
10 Austria @ 12,817408

Gaussian method. Noise dispersion set to 0,130062
Using 1 population approximation:
1 Rheinland-Pfalz @ 5,507125
2 Swiss_German @ 5,739956
3 Austria @ 5,747878
4 FR_North-East @ 5,786699
5 IT_Piemonte @ 5,856853
6 IT_Friuli @ 5,954004
7 Baden-Württemberg @ 6,08371
8 Bosniaks @ 6,095115
9 IT_Trentino @ 6,128045
10 Western_Serbians @ 6,135166

Swiss_Italian +25% Nordrhein-Westfalen +25% RU_Voronezh @ 3,959895

[Gründig]

It matches my recent ancestry to a t going back 2 generations. After that.............Also, I am quite mixed and it did not pick up on a few things such as I have some Finnish, Chinese, and some Middle Eastern. But this is a very good test for two generations back.


1 Baden-Württemberg @ 10,179362
2 Hessen @ 10,292532
3 Swiss_German @ 10,764303
4 Rheinland-Pfalz @ 10,826221
5 FR_North-East @ 11,190601
6 Bayern @ 11,193135
7 Walloons @ 11,824337
8 Flemish @ 12,006354
9 Dutch_Limburg @ 12,361425
10 Austria @ 12,817408

Gaussian method. Noise dispersion set to 0,130062
Using 1 population approximation:
1 Rheinland-Pfalz @ 5,507125
2 Swiss_German @ 5,739956
3 Austria @ 5,747878
4 FR_North-East @ 5,786699
5 IT_Piemonte @ 5,856853
6 IT_Friuli @ 5,954004
7 Baden-Württemberg @ 6,08371
8 Bosniaks @ 6,095115
9 IT_Trentino @ 6,128045
10 Western_Serbians @ 6,135166

Swiss_Italian +25% Nordrhein-Westfalen +25% RU_Voronezh @ 3,959895

did your original test (23andme etc) pick up on those things (finnish etc)?

[Slavic Italian]

did your original test (23andme etc) pick up on those things?

23&me picked up on those things and the Finnish and Chinese. But that was the V3 Chip and it tested 900,000 SNPs. I think the new one(V5 chip) tests 700,000 like most of the tests do these days. Try CRI genetics. They did good too and have made some adjustments.

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23&me picked up on those things and the Finnish and Chinese. But that was the V3 Chip and it tested 900,000 SNPs. I think the new one(V5 chip) tests 700,000 like most of the tests do these days. Try CRI genetics. They did good too and have made some adjustments.

Im waiting for my dnatribes results, i should have them tomorrow.

ill check out cri genetics.

[Slavic Italian]

Im waiting for my dnatribes results, i should have them tomorrow.

ill check out cri genetics.

I like DNA tribes a lot. CRI is pretty good. At first I was like they need to change some things. They realized it too and then did so.

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I like DNA tribes a lot. CRI is pretty good. At first I was like they need to change some things. They realized it too and then did so.

did you do the actual dnatribe test? or the SNP upload.

[Slavic Italian]

did you do the actual dnatribe test? or the SNP upload.

Upload. You get that back in like a day.

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Upload. You get that back in like a day.

yea i thought i would. I did it on the weekend and they said i would get it this thursday.

[Slavic Italian]

yea i thought i would. I did it on the weekend and they said i would get it this thursday.

They have gotten slower recently I have been told.

[Slavic Italian]

Looking at my results maybe I should be the Prussian Italian.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=perM4JVZsxo

[Slavic Italian]

Haha ja das passt besser

Kannst du ein Foto der Karte hochladen?

Third map at this link. My handle is Mixed there.

https://anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?10347-K36-Eurogenes-(Unofficial)-Oracle-and-other-ancestry-tools/page485

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Third map at this link. My handle is Mixed there.

https://anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?10347-K36-Eurogenes-(Unofficial)-Oracle-and-other-ancestry-tools/page485

Some of the other ethnicities you mentioned do show up on some of the tests.

[Slavic Italian]

Some of the other ethnicities you mentioned do show up on some of the tests.

You see it better than I do.

[Gründig]

You see it better than I do.

The Arab comes up a few times.

[Slavic Italian]

The Arab comes up a few times.

I've not looked at all of it. I have some Persian as well but did not see it.

[Slavic Italian]

The Arab comes up a few times.

But that German region sure is dark.

[Gründig]

I've not looked at all of it. I have some Persian as well but did not see it.

Basically, some populations may come up that are similar to what you are but not actually what you are.

For example the test states populations like Brittany France and parts of England can be mixed up.

[Gründig]

But that German region sure is dark.

For sure.

They are also all different calculators it seems, hence why things vary.

[Slavic Italian]

For sure.

They are also all different calculators it seems, hence why things vary.

Exactly.

[Dragoon]

You seem to have a lot of known ancestry from around Europe.

How many generations has your family been in US?
Also do you follow any of those ancestral traditions?

[Slavic Italian]

You seem to have a lot of known ancestry from around Europe.

How many generations has your family been in US?
Also do you follow any of those ancestral traditions?

Three generations. I personally do not follow any traditions from Europe. I do love Euro culture, though.