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Myanthropologies
08-10-2018, 03:17 PM
Eurogenes k13



Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 46.19
2 Baltic 13.64
3 North_Atlantic 12.89
4 East_Med 12.47
5 South_Asian 4.68
6 West_Med 4.20
7 Siberian 2.02
8 Red_Sea 1.18


Finished reading population data. 204 populations found.
13 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Chechen @ 3.605624
2 Tabassaran @ 4.287272
3 Lezgin @ 4.714617
4 Kabardin @ 8.391350
5 North_Ossetian @ 9.151420
6 Adygei @ 9.205079
7 Kumyk @ 9.894705
8 Balkar @ 10.249319
9 Ossetian @ 10.663458
10 Georgian @ 18.013704
11 Tadjik @ 20.224089
12 Abhkasian @ 20.532804
13 Turkmen @ 21.802689
14 Nogay @ 22.111588
15 Afghan_Pashtun @ 23.407671
16 Azeri @ 23.566101
17 Kurdish @ 23.619461
18 Afghan_Tadjik @ 23.703184
19 Iranian @ 25.385206
20 Turkish @ 26.716394

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Chechen +50% Tabassaran @ 2.769253


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Chechen +25% Tabassaran +25% Tabassaran @ 2.769253


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Ossetian + Tabassaran + Tabassaran + Tabassaran @ 1.930886
2 Chechen + Ossetian + Tabassaran + Tabassaran @ 2.123237
3 Balkar + Tabassaran + Tabassaran + Tabassaran @ 2.155052
4 Lezgin + Ossetian + Tabassaran + Tabassaran @ 2.320021
5 Balkar + Chechen + Tabassaran + Tabassaran @ 2.462944
6 Kabardin + Tabassaran + Tabassaran + Tabassaran @ 2.491514
7 Chechen + Kabardin + Tabassaran + Tabassaran @ 2.542827
8 Balkar + Lezgin + Tabassaran + Tabassaran @ 2.590590
9 North_Ossetian + Tabassaran + Tabassaran + Tabassaran @ 2.606730
10 Adygei + Tabassaran + Tabassaran + Tabassaran @ 2.691236
11 Kabardin + Lezgin + Tabassaran + Tabassaran @ 2.713855
12 Chechen + North_Ossetian + Tabassaran + Tabassaran @ 2.717603
13 Chechen + Chechen + Tabassaran + Tabassaran @ 2.769253
14 Adygei + Chechen + Tabassaran + Tabassaran @ 2.798608
15 Chechen + Chechen + Chechen + Tabassaran @ 2.891598
16 Chechen + Lezgin + Ossetian + Tabassaran @ 2.900570
17 Chechen + Kumyk + Tabassaran + Tabassaran @ 2.999010
18 Lezgin + North_Ossetian + Tabassaran + Tabassaran @ 3.014698
19 Chechen + Chechen + Ossetian + Tabassaran @ 3.030428
20 Kabardin + Ossetian + Tabassaran + Tabassaran @ 3.046137

Done.

Elapsed time 0.9353 seconds.



Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 49.79
2 North_Atlantic 13.49
3 Baltic 13.43
4 East_Med 8.47
5 West_Med 5.30
6 Siberian 3.04
7 South_Asian 2.25
8 East_Asian 1.84
9 Oceanian 1.05
10 Red_Sea 1.04


Finished reading population data. 204 populations found.
13 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Chechen @ 7.259088
2 Tabassaran @ 8.230951
3 Lezgin @ 9.156538
4 North_Ossetian @ 9.963223
5 Kabardin @ 10.074700
6 Ossetian @ 10.957500
7 Balkar @ 11.725089
8 Adygei @ 11.873035
9 Kumyk @ 14.427767
10 Georgian @ 19.508152
11 Abhkasian @ 21.657047
12 Tadjik @ 23.112867
13 Nogay @ 23.717754
14 Turkmen @ 26.094015
15 Afghan_Pashtun @ 26.355923
16 Afghan_Tadjik @ 26.609869
17 Kurdish @ 28.300306
18 Azeri @ 28.489233
19 Iranian @ 30.339890
20 Turkish @ 31.185207

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Ossetian +50% Tabassaran @ 6.539321


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Ossetian +25% Tabassaran +25% Tabassaran @ 6.539321


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++
1 Chechen + Ossetian + Tabassaran + Tabassaran @ 6.387530
2 Ossetian + Tabassaran + Tabassaran + Tabassaran @ 6.519905
3 Ossetian + Ossetian + Tabassaran + Tabassaran @ 6.539321
4 North_Ossetian + Ossetian + Tabassaran + Tabassaran @ 6.540103
5 Chechen + Chechen + Ossetian + Tabassaran @ 6.565684
6 Kabardin + Ossetian + Tabassaran + Tabassaran @ 6.592294
7 Chechen + North_Ossetian + Tabassaran + Tabassaran @ 6.785956
8 North_Ossetian + North_Ossetian + Tabassaran + Tabassaran @ 6.818622
9 Balkar + Ossetian + Tabassaran + Tabassaran @ 6.865784
10 Lezgin + Ossetian + Tabassaran + Tabassaran @ 6.869077
11 Kabardin + North_Ossetian + Tabassaran + Tabassaran @ 6.893293
12 Chechen + Lezgin + Ossetian + Tabassaran @ 6.910696
13 North_Ossetian + Tabassaran + Tabassaran + Tabassaran @ 6.921437
14 Chechen + Chechen + North_Ossetian + Tabassaran @ 6.937799
15 Balkar + Chechen + Tabassaran + Tabassaran @ 6.994309
16 Chechen + North_Ossetian + Ossetian + Tabassaran @ 6.996678
17 Chechen + Kabardin + Tabassaran + Tabassaran @ 7.000448
18 Chechen + Ossetian + Ossetian + Tabassaran @ 7.009074
19 Chechen + Chechen + Chechen + Ossetian @ 7.019200
20 Chechen + Kabardin + Ossetian + Tabassaran @ 7.023202

Done.

Elapsed time 1.6383 seconds.



Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 50.37
2 East_Med 14.12
3 North_Atlantic 12.57
4 Baltic 10.47
5 West_Med 4.80
6 Siberian 2.83
7 Oceanian 1.67
8 South_Asian 1.53
9 East_Asian 1.03


Finished reading population data. 204 populations found.
13 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Chechen @ 7.287735
2 North_Ossetian @ 7.596850
3 Lezgin @ 7.891307
4 Ossetian @ 8.102647
5 Adygei @ 8.748099
6 Tabassaran @ 9.259692
7 Kabardin @ 9.720422
8 Balkar @ 9.826189
9 Kumyk @ 11.905494
10 Georgian @ 14.606639
11 Abhkasian @ 16.678715
12 Kurdish @ 23.580692
13 Turkmen @ 24.151978
14 Azeri @ 24.506590
15 Tadjik @ 24.794447
16 Nogay @ 24.887905
17 Iranian @ 26.181879
18 Afghan_Tadjik @ 27.422071
19 Turkish @ 27.611879
20 Afghan_Pashtun @ 27.679672

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Ossetian +50% Tabassaran @ 4.951313


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Ossetian +25% Tabassaran +25% Tabassaran @ 4.951313


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++
1 Lezgin + Ossetian + Ossetian + Tabassaran @ 4.853863
2 Ossetian + Ossetian + Tabassaran + Tabassaran @ 4.951313
3 Lezgin + Lezgin + Ossetian + Ossetian @ 5.007816
4 Georgian + Ossetian + Tabassaran + Tabassaran @ 5.065744
5 Abhkasian + Ossetian + Tabassaran + Tabassaran @ 5.082119
6 Chechen + Ossetian + Ossetian + Tabassaran @ 5.148418
7 Lezgin + North_Ossetian + Ossetian + Tabassaran @ 5.240470
8 North_Ossetian + Ossetian + Tabassaran + Tabassaran @ 5.267960
9 Chechen + Lezgin + Ossetian + Ossetian @ 5.276693
10 Georgian + North_Ossetian + Tabassaran + Tabassaran @ 5.369022
11 Abhkasian + North_Ossetian + Tabassaran + Tabassaran @ 5.393521
12 Georgian + Lezgin + Ossetian + Tabassaran @ 5.409801
13 Lezgin + Lezgin + North_Ossetian + Ossetian @ 5.432717
14 Chechen + North_Ossetian + Ossetian + Tabassaran @ 5.438778
15 North_Ossetian + Ossetian + Ossetian + Tabassaran @ 5.495025
16 Abhkasian + Lezgin + Ossetian + Tabassaran @ 5.540440
17 Chechen + Georgian + Ossetian + Tabassaran @ 5.546057
18 Abhkasian + Chechen + Tabassaran + Tabassaran @ 5.579481
19 Abhkasian + Balkar + Tabassaran + Tabassaran @ 5.580602
20 Chechen + Lezgin + North_Ossetian + Ossetian @ 5.613584

Done.

Elapsed time 1.9987 seconds.



Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 51.15
2 Baltic 16.31
3 East_Med 12.61
4 North_Atlantic 6.31
5 West_Med 4.05
6 Amerindian 3.04
7 South_Asian 2.19
8 Red_Sea 2.08
9 Oceanian 1.15


Finished reading population data. 204 populations found.
13 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Chechen @ 6.788432
2 Lezgin @ 7.970382
3 North_Ossetian @ 8.103628
4 Adygei @ 8.780631
5 Kabardin @ 9.722019
6 Tabassaran @ 10.065777
7 Balkar @ 11.611234
8 Ossetian @ 11.944183
9 Kumyk @ 12.723888
10 Georgian @ 16.013931
11 Abhkasian @ 17.782719
12 Kurdish @ 25.316053
13 Tadjik @ 26.146441
14 Azeri @ 26.740273
15 Nogay @ 26.750835
16 Turkmen @ 26.796219
17 Iranian @ 27.069057
18 Afghan_Pashtun @ 27.575480
19 Afghan_Tadjik @ 28.270943
20 Turkish @ 30.412683

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Lezgin +50% North_Ossetian @ 6.503554


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Chechen +25% Chechen +25% North_Ossetian @ 6.396100


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++
1 Chechen + Chechen + Chechen + North_Ossetian @ 6.396100
2 Chechen + Chechen + Lezgin + North_Ossetian @ 6.415797
3 Chechen + Lezgin + North_Ossetian + North_Ossetian @ 6.436364
4 Lezgin + Lezgin + North_Ossetian + North_Ossetian @ 6.503554
5 Chechen + Chechen + North_Ossetian + North_Ossetian @ 6.515115
6 Chechen + North_Ossetian + North_Ossetian + Tabassaran @ 6.515571
7 Abhkasian + Chechen + Chechen + Tabassaran @ 6.568397
8 Lezgin + North_Ossetian + North_Ossetian + Tabassaran @ 6.570458
9 Chechen + Lezgin + Lezgin + North_Ossetian @ 6.580596
10 Abhkasian + Chechen + Chechen + Chechen @ 6.596330
11 Adygei + Chechen + Chechen + Chechen @ 6.618104
12 Adygei + Chechen + Lezgin + North_Ossetian @ 6.621826
13 Adygei + Chechen + Chechen + North_Ossetian @ 6.661036
14 Adygei + Chechen + North_Ossetian + Tabassaran @ 6.664431
15 Adygei + Chechen + Chechen + Lezgin @ 6.674638
16 Abhkasian + Chechen + Chechen + Lezgin @ 6.676500
17 Chechen + Chechen + North_Ossetian + Tabassaran @ 6.695656
18 Chechen + Chechen + Chechen + Georgian @ 6.698257
19 Adygei + Lezgin + Lezgin + North_Ossetian @ 6.724371
20 Chechen + Chechen + Georgian + Tabassaran @ 6.747476

Done.

Elapsed time 1.6374 seconds.



Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 45.99
2 Baltic 14.87
3 East_Med 14.33
4 North_Atlantic 8.42
5 West_Med 5.64
6 South_Asian 3.39
7 Amerindian 2.16
8 Red_Sea 1.64
9 East_Asian 1.52
10 Siberian 1.06


Finished reading population data. 204 populations found.
13 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Chechen @ 2.710458
2 Lezgin @ 5.384245
3 Adygei @ 5.539166
4 Kabardin @ 5.817380
5 North_Ossetian @ 6.481096
6 Kumyk @ 6.964177
7 Tabassaran @ 7.804285
8 Balkar @ 7.807585
9 Ossetian @ 9.690448
10 Georgian @ 15.307199
11 Abhkasian @ 17.769220
12 Kurdish @ 21.557377
13 Turkmen @ 21.643267
14 Azeri @ 21.792517
15 Nogay @ 22.219707
16 Tadjik @ 22.251837
17 Iranian @ 23.378557
18 Afghan_Tadjik @ 24.397833
19 Turkish @ 24.981697
20 Afghan_Pashtun @ 25.118835

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Adygei +50% Chechen @ 2.368337


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Chechen +25% Chechen +25% Kumyk @ 1.933812


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Adygei + Chechen + Chechen + Chechen @ 1.747084
2 Chechen + Chechen + Chechen + Kumyk @ 1.933812
3 Adygei + Chechen + Chechen + Lezgin @ 2.214648
4 Adygei + Chechen + Chechen + Kumyk @ 2.263311
5 Adygei + Adygei + Chechen + Tabassaran @ 2.297633
6 Adygei + Chechen + Kabardin + Lezgin @ 2.324862
7 Adygei + Chechen + Kabardin + Tabassaran @ 2.363834
8 Adygei + Adygei + Chechen + Chechen @ 2.368337
9 Chechen + Chechen + Chechen + Kabardin @ 2.371808
10 Chechen + Chechen + Kumyk + North_Ossetian @ 2.382185
11 Adygei + Chechen + Kumyk + Tabassaran @ 2.382280
12 Adygei + Chechen + Chechen + Kabardin @ 2.388871
13 Balkar + Chechen + Chechen + Chechen @ 2.401973
14 Chechen + Chechen + Kumyk + Lezgin @ 2.408852
15 Balkar + Chechen + Chechen + Lezgin @ 2.436437
16 Chechen + Chechen + Chechen + North_Ossetian @ 2.439201
17 Chechen + Kumyk + North_Ossetian + Tabassaran @ 2.472781
18 Chechen + Chechen + Kabardin + Lezgin @ 2.487006
19 Adygei + Chechen + Kumyk + Lezgin @ 2.540491
20 Chechen + Chechen + Kabardin + Kumyk @ 2.562440

Done.

Elapsed time 0.6886 seconds.



Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 49.35
2 East_Med 15.74
3 North_Atlantic 13.14
4 Baltic 8.88
5 West_Med 3.91
6 South_Asian 3.45
7 Red_Sea 1.58
8 Siberian 1.53
9 East_Asian 1.51


Finished reading population data. 204 populations found.
13 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Lezgin @ 7.849099
2 Chechen @ 8.153582
3 Ossetian @ 8.377922
4 Adygei @ 8.947062
5 North_Ossetian @ 8.989020
6 Tabassaran @ 9.164001
7 Balkar @ 10.751527
8 Kabardin @ 10.829415
9 Kumyk @ 11.121468
10 Georgian @ 13.847214
11 Abhkasian @ 16.211109
12 Kurdish @ 21.025227
13 Azeri @ 22.145840
14 Turkmen @ 22.396458
15 Iranian @ 23.530212
16 Tadjik @ 23.665342
17 Nogay @ 25.317411
18 Turkish @ 25.742653
19 Afghan_Pashtun @ 26.185717
20 Afghan_Tadjik @ 26.284937

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Ossetian +50% Tabassaran @ 5.087842


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Ossetian +25% Tabassaran +25% Tabassaran @ 5.087842


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++
1 Georgian + Ossetian + Tabassaran + Tabassaran @ 4.528943
2 Abhkasian + Ossetian + Tabassaran + Tabassaran @ 4.708566
3 Georgian + Lezgin + Ossetian + Tabassaran @ 4.930813
4 Lezgin + Ossetian + Ossetian + Tabassaran @ 5.025708
5 Ossetian + Ossetian + Tabassaran + Tabassaran @ 5.087842
6 Lezgin + Lezgin + Ossetian + Ossetian @ 5.202376
7 Abhkasian + Lezgin + Ossetian + Tabassaran @ 5.226501
8 Abhkasian + Tabassaran + Tabassaran + Tabassaran @ 5.284118
9 Georgian + North_Ossetian + Tabassaran + Tabassaran @ 5.325837
10 Abhkasian + Lezgin + Tabassaran + Tabassaran @ 5.359443
11 Georgian + Lezgin + Tabassaran + Tabassaran @ 5.399014
12 Chechen + Georgian + Ossetian + Tabassaran @ 5.420468
13 Georgian + Georgian + Tabassaran + Tabassaran @ 5.424051
14 Georgian + Tabassaran + Tabassaran + Tabassaran @ 5.435108
15 Abhkasian + Chechen + Tabassaran + Tabassaran @ 5.461527
16 Balkar + Georgian + Tabassaran + Tabassaran @ 5.479942
17 Abhkasian + North_Ossetian + Tabassaran + Tabassaran @ 5.494899
18 Adygei + Georgian + Tabassaran + Tabassaran @ 5.499954
19 Chechen + Georgian + Tabassaran + Tabassaran @ 5.518147
20 Georgian + Lezgin + Lezgin + Ossetian @ 5.529974

Done.

Elapsed time 1.5022 seconds.


Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 47.39
2 East_Med 13.98
3 Baltic 13.95
4 North_Atlantic 8.83
5 West_Med 5.18
6 Siberian 3.79
7 South_Asian 3.75
8 Red_Sea 1.22


Finished reading population data. 204 populations found.
13 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Chechen @ 3.350007
2 North_Ossetian @ 5.020809
3 Kabardin @ 5.208078
4 Lezgin @ 5.260921
5 Adygei @ 5.397413
6 Balkar @ 7.144590
7 Tabassaran @ 7.617647
8 Kumyk @ 7.961554
9 Ossetian @ 8.455338
10 Georgian @ 15.044698
11 Abhkasian @ 17.272078
12 Turkmen @ 21.474659
13 Tadjik @ 21.696236
14 Nogay @ 21.936966
15 Kurdish @ 21.952505
16 Azeri @ 22.420753
17 Iranian @ 23.809774
18 Afghan_Tadjik @ 23.932568
19 Afghan_Pashtun @ 24.670261
20 Turkish @ 25.771021

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Lezgin +50% North_Ossetian @ 2.025474


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Lezgin +25% North_Ossetian +25% North_Ossetian @ 2.025474


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Chechen + North_Ossetian + North_Ossetian + Tabassaran @ 1.580806
2 Adygei + Chechen + North_Ossetian + Tabassaran @ 1.611385
3 Kabardin + Lezgin + Lezgin + North_Ossetian @ 1.667696
4 Kabardin + Lezgin + North_Ossetian + Tabassaran @ 1.680070
5 Chechen + Kabardin + Lezgin + North_Ossetian @ 1.722265
6 Balkar + Lezgin + North_Ossetian + Tabassaran @ 1.734265
7 Lezgin + North_Ossetian + North_Ossetian + Tabassaran @ 1.759173
8 Chechen + Kabardin + North_Ossetian + Tabassaran @ 1.793208
9 Chechen + Lezgin + North_Ossetian + North_Ossetian @ 1.881609
10 Adygei + Lezgin + North_Ossetian + Tabassaran @ 1.917799
11 Adygei + Chechen + Kabardin + Tabassaran @ 1.931386
12 Balkar + Chechen + North_Ossetian + Tabassaran @ 1.934135
13 Adygei + Kabardin + North_Ossetian + Tabassaran @ 1.966565
14 Adygei + Kabardin + Lezgin + Tabassaran @ 1.978937
15 Balkar + Lezgin + Lezgin + North_Ossetian @ 1.981639
16 Kabardin + Lezgin + Lezgin + Ossetian @ 1.989540
17 Adygei + Chechen + Lezgin + North_Ossetian @ 1.991570
18 Adygei + Chechen + Kabardin + Lezgin @ 1.996905
19 Lezgin + Lezgin + North_Ossetian + North_Ossetian @ 2.025474
20 Adygei + Balkar + Lezgin + Tabassaran @ 2.033903

Done.

Elapsed time 0.4551 seconds.


Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 51.46
2 East_Med 12.96
3 North_Atlantic 11.16
4 Baltic 9.33
5 West_Med 6.54
6 South_Asian 3.00
7 Siberian 2.81
8 East_Asian 1.79


Finished reading population data. 204 populations found.
13 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Ossetian @ 5.903080
2 North_Ossetian @ 6.793773
3 Chechen @ 8.359897
4 Adygei @ 8.371521
5 Balkar @ 9.099414
6 Kabardin @ 9.340020
7 Lezgin @ 9.652789
8 Tabassaran @ 10.836614
9 Kumyk @ 12.423347
10 Georgian @ 13.371083
11 Abhkasian @ 15.300185
12 Kurdish @ 23.555407
13 Turkmen @ 24.312021
14 Tadjik @ 24.405663
15 Azeri @ 24.792397
16 Nogay @ 25.269613
17 Iranian @ 26.149105
18 Afghan_Tadjik @ 26.638771
19 Afghan_Pashtun @ 26.738384
20 Turkish @ 27.945950

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Ossetian +50% Tabassaran @ 4.989475


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Ossetian +25% Ossetian +25% Tabassaran @ 4.136797


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++
1 Ossetian + Ossetian + Ossetian + Tabassaran @ 4.136797
2 North_Ossetian + Ossetian + Ossetian + Tabassaran @ 4.438673
3 Lezgin + Ossetian + Ossetian + Ossetian @ 4.497693
4 Abhkasian + Ossetian + Tabassaran + Tabassaran @ 4.790820
5 Chechen + Ossetian + Ossetian + Tabassaran @ 4.817707
6 Chechen + Ossetian + Ossetian + Ossetian @ 4.838953
7 Lezgin + North_Ossetian + Ossetian + Ossetian @ 4.847854
8 Lezgin + Ossetian + Ossetian + Tabassaran @ 4.879825
9 Adygei + Ossetian + Ossetian + Tabassaran @ 4.892230
10 Chechen + Lezgin + Ossetian + Ossetian @ 4.931661
11 Georgian + Ossetian + Ossetian + Tabassaran @ 4.941532
12 Ossetian + Ossetian + Tabassaran + Tabassaran @ 4.989475
13 Lezgin + Lezgin + Ossetian + Ossetian @ 5.012962
14 Georgian + Ossetian + Tabassaran + Tabassaran @ 5.015253
15 Chechen + Chechen + Ossetian + Ossetian @ 5.034763
16 Abhkasian + Chechen + Ossetian + Tabassaran @ 5.041033
17 Abhkasian + Ossetian + Ossetian + Tabassaran @ 5.065714
18 Chechen + North_Ossetian + Ossetian + Ossetian @ 5.097813
19 Balkar + Ossetian + Ossetian + Tabassaran @ 5.102350
20 North_Ossetian + North_Ossetian + Ossetian + Tabassaran @ 5.109874

Done.

Elapsed time 1.4262 seconds.

Myanthropologies
08-10-2018, 03:18 PM
Interestingly enough, they are not even close to Armenians at all. They even score genetically closer to Afghan populations than to Armenians.

Sikeliot
08-10-2018, 03:22 PM
Interestingly enough, they are not even close to Armenians at all. They even score genetically closer to Afghan populations than to Armenians.

Because Armenians are Mesopotamian. They are closer to Iraqi Jews, Mandaeans, Assyrians, and Kurds/Iranians than to Georgians or North Caucasian people.

Böri
08-10-2018, 03:24 PM
You should precise ethnicity, North Caucasus has different ethnos and certainly at least few differences present between ethnos.

Hadouken
08-10-2018, 03:24 PM
Because Armenians are Mesopotamian. They are closer to Iraqi Jews, Mandaeans, Assyrians, and Kurds/Iranians than to Georgians or North Caucasian people.

I have run several georgian kits and they are not far from armenians and kurds . some georgians on some calculators even get kurdish or armenian as first fit . the georgian samples on gedmatch are often not representative . especially on dodecad

I can show you several georgian results if you want

Sikeliot
08-10-2018, 03:25 PM
I can show you several georgian results if you want

Please do.

Myanthropologies
08-10-2018, 03:29 PM
Because Armenians are Mesopotamian. They are closer to Iraqi Jews, Mandaeans, Assyrians, and Kurds/Iranians than to Georgians or North Caucasian people.

Actually, Armenians have been a continuation of Bronze Age caucasian popuations. It is Northern Caucasians who have recieved more Northern input lately.


First, sometime after the Bronze Age present-day North Caucasian populations must have received additional gene-flow from populations north of the mountain range that separates them from southern Caucasians, who largely retained the Bronze Age ancestry profile
https://www.biorxiv.org/content/biorxiv/early/2018/05/16/322347.full.pdf

Myanthropologies
08-10-2018, 03:31 PM
You should precise ethnicity, North Caucasus has different ethnos and certainly at least few differences present between ethnos.

most are chechen, but some might be north ossettian. I was unable to identify a lot of them.

Hadouken
08-10-2018, 03:34 PM
Please do.

ok here you go . I will post several calcs it could be a bit messy



georgian 1

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 55.45
2 East_Med 25.17
3 West_Med 12.51
4 South_Asian 2.87
5 Red_Sea 2.61
6 Baltic 1.19
7 Oceanian 0.21

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Abhkasian 5.22
2 Georgian 6.92
3 Ossetian 15.32
4 Adygei 15.84
5 Kurdish 16.23
6 Armenian 16.84
7 North_Ossetian 16.97
8 Balkar 17.87
9 Kumyk 19.04
10 Iranian 19.35
11 Kabardin 19.78
12 Georgian_Jewish 20.09
13 Azeri 20.46
14 Chechen 21.48
15 Lezgin 22.06
16 Turkish 23.11
17 Assyrian 23.79
18 Tabassaran 24.71
19 Kurdish_Jewish 26.98
20 Iranian_Jewish 27.51

------------------------

georgian 2

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 53.1
2 East_Med 24.94
3 West_Med 11.06
4 Baltic 4.07
5 Red_Sea 2.36
6 South_Asian 1.88
7 North_Atlantic 1.74
8 East_Asian 0.52
9 Oceanian 0.35

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Abhkasian 2.92
2 Georgian 3.75
3 Adygei 12.51
4 Ossetian 12.81
5 North_Ossetian 13.95
6 Kurdish 14.21
7 Balkar 14.89
8 Armenian 15.55
9 Kumyk 15.58
10 Kabardin 16.7
11 Iranian 17.52
12 Azeri 18.04
13 Chechen 18.19
14 Georgian_Jewish 18.52
15 Lezgin 18.71
16 Turkish 20.78
17 Tabassaran 21.57
18 Assyrian 22.38
19 Turkmen 25.19
20 Kurdish_Jewish 25.77

------------

georgian 3

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 52.05
2 East_Med 23.01
3 West_Med 9.22
4 Baltic 3.8
5 South_Asian 3.29
6 North_Atlantic 3.14
7 Red_Sea 2.06
8 East_Asian 1.53
9 Siberian 1.03
10 Sub-Saharan 0.52
11 Oceanian 0.37

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Abhkasian 2.87
2 Georgian 3.01
3 Ossetian 10.27
4 Adygei 10.58
5 North_Ossetian 11.79
6 Balkar 12.69
7 Kurdish 13.22
8 Kumyk 13.49
9 Kabardin 14.59
10 Chechen 16.03
11 Armenian 16.12
12 Iranian 16.35
13 Lezgin 16.5
14 Azeri 16.68
15 Georgian_Jewish 19.07
16 Tabassaran 19.22
17 Turkish 19.93
18 Turkmen 22.53
19 Assyrian 22.84
20 Makrani 26.07
----------------------------------


georgian 4

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 52.98
2 East_Med 27.79
3 West_Med 11.22
4 Baltic 5.33
5 South_Asian 0.85
6 Oceanian 0.77
7 North_Atlantic 0.61
8 Sub-Saharan 0.28
9 Red_Sea 0.18

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Abhkasian 5.46
2 Georgian 6.71
3 Adygei 14
4 Kurdish 14.89
5 Ossetian 15.16
6 Armenian 15.27
7 North_Ossetian 15.55
8 Balkar 16.41
9 Kumyk 16.76
10 Georgian_Jewish 18.17
11 Iranian 18.24
12 Kabardin 18.24
13 Azeri 18.7
14 Chechen 19.63
15 Lezgin 19.95
16 Turkish 21.23
17 Assyrian 21.87
18 Tabassaran 23.04
19 Kurdish_Jewish 25.39
20 Iranian_Jewish 25.8


Gurian



Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 52.21
2 East_Med 28.07
3 West_Med 10.08
4 Red_Sea 3
5 North_Atlantic 2.44
6 Baltic 2.43
7 South_Asian 0.74
8 Northeast_African 0.55
9 East_Asian 0.46
10 Oceanian 0.02

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Abhkasian 5.76
2 Georgian 6.21
3 Kurdish 13.09
4 Armenian 13.58
5 Adygei 14.51
6 Ossetian 14.9
7 North_Ossetian 16.09
8 Georgian_Jewish 16.56
9 Iranian 16.64
10 Balkar 16.84
11 Kumyk 16.85
12 Azeri 17.17
13 Kabardin 18.72
14 Turkish 19.85
15 Chechen 20.08
16 Lezgin 20.25
17 Assyrian 20.3
18 Tabassaran 23.19
19 Kurdish_Jewish 23.53
20 Iranian_Jewish 24.03


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PUNTDNAL K10 . same people




georgian 1

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 CHG 47.7
2 ENF 38.25
3 WHG 6.96
4 ASI 6.53
5 Oceanian 0.56

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Kurdish 6.32
2 Iranian 7.29
3 Armenian 7.39
4 Turkish_Trabzon 8.6
5 Georgian 9.45
6 Turkish_Kayseri 10.92
7 Abkhasian 11.34
8 Assyrian 12.73
9 Iraqi_Jew 14.81
10 Kumyk 15.23
11 North_Ossetian 17.31
12 Turkish_Aydin 17.89
13 Chechen 18.1
14 Syrian 19.84
15 Lezgin 20.37
16 Lebanese 20.76
17 Cypriot 21.09
18 Palestinian 21.59
19 Saudi 24.07
20 Jordanian 24.2


------------------

Georgian 2


Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 CHG 48.72
2 ENF 36.41
3 WHG 9.12
4 ASI 3.69
5 Siberian 2.03
6 E_Asian 0.02

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Georgian 7.24
2 Kurdish 8.35
3 Turkish_Trabzon 8.55
4 Iranian 9.04
5 Abkhasian 9.15
6 Armenian 9.69
7 Turkish_Kayseri 10.85
8 Kumyk 11.88
9 North_Ossetian 13.99
10 Assyrian 14.65
11 Chechen 15.45
12 Turkish_Aydin 16.49
13 Iraqi_Jew 16.95
14 Lezgin 17.5
15 Syrian 21.67
16 Cypriot 21.95
17 Lebanese 22.59
18 Palestinian 23.53
19 Ashkenazi_Jew 25.21
20 Jordanian 25.88

-----------

Georgian 3

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 CHG 47.37
2 ENF 35.24
3 WHG 10
4 E_Asian 1.93
5 Oceanian 1.92
6 ASI 1.5
7 Sub-Saharan 0.87
8 Beringian 0.75
9 Siberian 0.42

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Georgian 7.66
2 Turkish_Trabzon 8.57
3 Kurdish 9.44
4 Abkhasian 9.53
5 Iranian 10.06
6 Turkish_Kayseri 10.21
7 Kumyk 10.35
8 Armenian 10.59
9 North_Ossetian 12.49
10 Chechen 14.45
11 Turkish_Aydin 15.03
12 Assyrian 15.08
13 Lezgin 16.51
14 Iraqi_Jew 17.62
15 Syrian 21.38
16 Cypriot 21.5
17 Lebanese 22.49
18 Palestinian 23.39
19 Ashkenazi_Jew 23.92
20 Jordanian 25.38

--------------------

Georgian 4


Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 CHG 46.61
2 ENF 39.29
3 WHG 7.46
4 ASI 3.26
5 Oceanian 2.25
6 Sub-Saharan 0.59
7 Beringian 0.37
8 Siberian 0.16

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Turkish_Trabzon 6
2 Armenian 6.23
3 Kurdish 7.56
4 Georgian 9.21
5 Iranian 9.46
6 Turkish_Kayseri 9.99
7 Assyrian 11.18
8 Abkhasian 11.87
9 Iraqi_Jew 13.23
10 Kumyk 15.01
11 Turkish_Aydin 16.61
12 North_Ossetian 17.45
13 Syrian 18.58
14 Chechen 18.8
15 Lebanese 19.16
16 Cypriot 19.19
17 Palestinian 19.98
18 Lezgin 21.05
19 Jordanian 22.44
20 Saudi 22.61


-----------------

Gurian

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 CHG 47.85
2 ENF 36.1
3 WHG 11.91
4 ASI 1.85
5 Sub-Saharan 1.25
6 Oceanian 0.76
7 Siberian 0.29

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Georgian 8.13
2 Turkish_Trabzon 8.21
3 Kurdish 9.19
4 Kumyk 9.83
5 Abkhasian 10.18
6 Turkish_Kayseri 10.58
7 Armenian 10.65
8 Iranian 10.87
9 North_Ossetian 13.21
10 Chechen 14.23
11 Assyrian 14.9
12 Turkish_Aydin 15.46
13 Lezgin 16.34
14 Iraqi_Jew 17.78
15 Cypriot 20.93
16 Syrian 21.37
17 Lebanese 22.36
18 Ashkenazi_Jew 23
19 Palestinian 23.32
20 Jordanian 25.38

lameduck
08-10-2018, 03:34 PM
Interesting Afghans are close to North cuucasians as much as many west asians , this could explain very West shifted phenotypes among Afghans.

Aren
08-10-2018, 03:40 PM
ok here you go . I will post several calcs it could be a bit messy



georgian 1

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 55.45
2 East_Med 25.17
3 West_Med 12.51
4 South_Asian 2.87
5 Red_Sea 2.61
6 Baltic 1.19
7 Oceanian 0.21

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Abhkasian 5.22
2 Georgian 6.92
3 Ossetian 15.32
4 Adygei 15.84
5 Kurdish 16.23
6 Armenian 16.84
7 North_Ossetian 16.97
8 Balkar 17.87
9 Kumyk 19.04
10 Iranian 19.35
11 Kabardin 19.78
12 Georgian_Jewish 20.09
13 Azeri 20.46
14 Chechen 21.48
15 Lezgin 22.06
16 Turkish 23.11
17 Assyrian 23.79
18 Tabassaran 24.71
19 Kurdish_Jewish 26.98
20 Iranian_Jewish 27.51

------------------------

georgian 2

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 53.1
2 East_Med 24.94
3 West_Med 11.06
4 Baltic 4.07
5 Red_Sea 2.36
6 South_Asian 1.88
7 North_Atlantic 1.74
8 East_Asian 0.52
9 Oceanian 0.35

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Abhkasian 2.92
2 Georgian 3.75
3 Adygei 12.51
4 Ossetian 12.81
5 North_Ossetian 13.95
6 Kurdish 14.21
7 Balkar 14.89
8 Armenian 15.55
9 Kumyk 15.58
10 Kabardin 16.7
11 Iranian 17.52
12 Azeri 18.04
13 Chechen 18.19
14 Georgian_Jewish 18.52
15 Lezgin 18.71
16 Turkish 20.78
17 Tabassaran 21.57
18 Assyrian 22.38
19 Turkmen 25.19
20 Kurdish_Jewish 25.77

------------

georgian 3

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 52.05
2 East_Med 23.01
3 West_Med 9.22
4 Baltic 3.8
5 South_Asian 3.29
6 North_Atlantic 3.14
7 Red_Sea 2.06
8 East_Asian 1.53
9 Siberian 1.03
10 Sub-Saharan 0.52
11 Oceanian 0.37

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Abhkasian 2.87
2 Georgian 3.01
3 Ossetian 10.27
4 Adygei 10.58
5 North_Ossetian 11.79
6 Balkar 12.69
7 Kurdish 13.22
8 Kumyk 13.49
9 Kabardin 14.59
10 Chechen 16.03
11 Armenian 16.12
12 Iranian 16.35
13 Lezgin 16.5
14 Azeri 16.68
15 Georgian_Jewish 19.07
16 Tabassaran 19.22
17 Turkish 19.93
18 Turkmen 22.53
19 Assyrian 22.84
20 Makrani 26.07
----------------------------------


georgian 4

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 52.98
2 East_Med 27.79
3 West_Med 11.22
4 Baltic 5.33
5 South_Asian 0.85
6 Oceanian 0.77
7 North_Atlantic 0.61
8 Sub-Saharan 0.28
9 Red_Sea 0.18

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Abhkasian 5.46
2 Georgian 6.71
3 Adygei 14
4 Kurdish 14.89
5 Ossetian 15.16
6 Armenian 15.27
7 North_Ossetian 15.55
8 Balkar 16.41
9 Kumyk 16.76
10 Georgian_Jewish 18.17
11 Iranian 18.24
12 Kabardin 18.24
13 Azeri 18.7
14 Chechen 19.63
15 Lezgin 19.95
16 Turkish 21.23
17 Assyrian 21.87
18 Tabassaran 23.04
19 Kurdish_Jewish 25.39
20 Iranian_Jewish 25.8


Gurian



Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 52.21
2 East_Med 28.07
3 West_Med 10.08
4 Red_Sea 3
5 North_Atlantic 2.44
6 Baltic 2.43
7 South_Asian 0.74
8 Northeast_African 0.55
9 East_Asian 0.46
10 Oceanian 0.02

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Abhkasian 5.76
2 Georgian 6.21
3 Kurdish 13.09
4 Armenian 13.58
5 Adygei 14.51
6 Ossetian 14.9
7 North_Ossetian 16.09
8 Georgian_Jewish 16.56
9 Iranian 16.64
10 Balkar 16.84
11 Kumyk 16.85
12 Azeri 17.17
13 Kabardin 18.72
14 Turkish 19.85
15 Chechen 20.08
16 Lezgin 20.25
17 Assyrian 20.3
18 Tabassaran 23.19
19 Kurdish_Jewish 23.53
20 Iranian_Jewish 24.03


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PUNTDNAL K10 . same people




georgian 1

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 CHG 47.7
2 ENF 38.25
3 WHG 6.96
4 ASI 6.53
5 Oceanian 0.56

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Kurdish 6.32
2 Iranian 7.29
3 Armenian 7.39
4 Turkish_Trabzon 8.6
5 Georgian 9.45
6 Turkish_Kayseri 10.92
7 Abkhasian 11.34
8 Assyrian 12.73
9 Iraqi_Jew 14.81
10 Kumyk 15.23
11 North_Ossetian 17.31
12 Turkish_Aydin 17.89
13 Chechen 18.1
14 Syrian 19.84
15 Lezgin 20.37
16 Lebanese 20.76
17 Cypriot 21.09
18 Palestinian 21.59
19 Saudi 24.07
20 Jordanian 24.2


------------------

Georgian 2


Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 CHG 48.72
2 ENF 36.41
3 WHG 9.12
4 ASI 3.69
5 Siberian 2.03
6 E_Asian 0.02

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Georgian 7.24
2 Kurdish 8.35
3 Turkish_Trabzon 8.55
4 Iranian 9.04
5 Abkhasian 9.15
6 Armenian 9.69
7 Turkish_Kayseri 10.85
8 Kumyk 11.88
9 North_Ossetian 13.99
10 Assyrian 14.65
11 Chechen 15.45
12 Turkish_Aydin 16.49
13 Iraqi_Jew 16.95
14 Lezgin 17.5
15 Syrian 21.67
16 Cypriot 21.95
17 Lebanese 22.59
18 Palestinian 23.53
19 Ashkenazi_Jew 25.21
20 Jordanian 25.88

-----------

Georgian 3

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 CHG 47.37
2 ENF 35.24
3 WHG 10
4 E_Asian 1.93
5 Oceanian 1.92
6 ASI 1.5
7 Sub-Saharan 0.87
8 Beringian 0.75
9 Siberian 0.42

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Georgian 7.66
2 Turkish_Trabzon 8.57
3 Kurdish 9.44
4 Abkhasian 9.53
5 Iranian 10.06
6 Turkish_Kayseri 10.21
7 Kumyk 10.35
8 Armenian 10.59
9 North_Ossetian 12.49
10 Chechen 14.45
11 Turkish_Aydin 15.03
12 Assyrian 15.08
13 Lezgin 16.51
14 Iraqi_Jew 17.62
15 Syrian 21.38
16 Cypriot 21.5
17 Lebanese 22.49
18 Palestinian 23.39
19 Ashkenazi_Jew 23.92
20 Jordanian 25.38

--------------------

Georgian 4


Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 CHG 46.61
2 ENF 39.29
3 WHG 7.46
4 ASI 3.26
5 Oceanian 2.25
6 Sub-Saharan 0.59
7 Beringian 0.37
8 Siberian 0.16

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Turkish_Trabzon 6
2 Armenian 6.23
3 Kurdish 7.56
4 Georgian 9.21
5 Iranian 9.46
6 Turkish_Kayseri 9.99
7 Assyrian 11.18
8 Abkhasian 11.87
9 Iraqi_Jew 13.23
10 Kumyk 15.01
11 Turkish_Aydin 16.61
12 North_Ossetian 17.45
13 Syrian 18.58
14 Chechen 18.8
15 Lebanese 19.16
16 Cypriot 19.19
17 Palestinian 19.98
18 Lezgin 21.05
19 Jordanian 22.44
20 Saudi 22.61


-----------------

Gurian

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 CHG 47.85
2 ENF 36.1
3 WHG 11.91
4 ASI 1.85
5 Sub-Saharan 1.25
6 Oceanian 0.76
7 Siberian 0.29

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Georgian 8.13
2 Turkish_Trabzon 8.21
3 Kurdish 9.19
4 Kumyk 9.83
5 Abkhasian 10.18
6 Turkish_Kayseri 10.58
7 Armenian 10.65
8 Iranian 10.87
9 North_Ossetian 13.21
10 Chechen 14.23
11 Assyrian 14.9
12 Turkish_Aydin 15.46
13 Lezgin 16.34
14 Iraqi_Jew 17.78
15 Cypriot 20.93
16 Syrian 21.37
17 Lebanese 22.36
18 Ashkenazi_Jew 23
19 Palestinian 23.32
20 Jordanian 25.38

Interesting very low South Asian and European in comparision with the ones OP posted. Georgians and Armenians basically form a cline where Armenians are more Anatolian and Levantine shifted Georgians.

Sikeliot
08-10-2018, 03:43 PM
ok here you go . I will post several calcs it could be a bit messy



georgian 1

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 55.45
2 East_Med 25.17
3 West_Med 12.51
4 South_Asian 2.87
5 Red_Sea 2.61
6 Baltic 1.19
7 Oceanian 0.21

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Abhkasian 5.22
2 Georgian 6.92
3 Ossetian 15.32
4 Adygei 15.84
5 Kurdish 16.23
6 Armenian 16.84
7 North_Ossetian 16.97
8 Balkar 17.87
9 Kumyk 19.04
10 Iranian 19.35
11 Kabardin 19.78
12 Georgian_Jewish 20.09
13 Azeri 20.46
14 Chechen 21.48
15 Lezgin 22.06
16 Turkish 23.11
17 Assyrian 23.79
18 Tabassaran 24.71
19 Kurdish_Jewish 26.98
20 Iranian_Jewish 27.51

------------------------

georgian 2

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 53.1
2 East_Med 24.94
3 West_Med 11.06
4 Baltic 4.07
5 Red_Sea 2.36
6 South_Asian 1.88
7 North_Atlantic 1.74
8 East_Asian 0.52
9 Oceanian 0.35

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Abhkasian 2.92
2 Georgian 3.75
3 Adygei 12.51
4 Ossetian 12.81
5 North_Ossetian 13.95
6 Kurdish 14.21
7 Balkar 14.89
8 Armenian 15.55
9 Kumyk 15.58
10 Kabardin 16.7
11 Iranian 17.52
12 Azeri 18.04
13 Chechen 18.19
14 Georgian_Jewish 18.52
15 Lezgin 18.71
16 Turkish 20.78
17 Tabassaran 21.57
18 Assyrian 22.38
19 Turkmen 25.19
20 Kurdish_Jewish 25.77

------------

georgian 3

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 52.05
2 East_Med 23.01
3 West_Med 9.22
4 Baltic 3.8
5 South_Asian 3.29
6 North_Atlantic 3.14
7 Red_Sea 2.06
8 East_Asian 1.53
9 Siberian 1.03
10 Sub-Saharan 0.52
11 Oceanian 0.37

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Abhkasian 2.87
2 Georgian 3.01
3 Ossetian 10.27
4 Adygei 10.58
5 North_Ossetian 11.79
6 Balkar 12.69
7 Kurdish 13.22
8 Kumyk 13.49
9 Kabardin 14.59
10 Chechen 16.03
11 Armenian 16.12
12 Iranian 16.35
13 Lezgin 16.5
14 Azeri 16.68
15 Georgian_Jewish 19.07
16 Tabassaran 19.22
17 Turkish 19.93
18 Turkmen 22.53
19 Assyrian 22.84
20 Makrani 26.07
----------------------------------


georgian 4

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 52.98
2 East_Med 27.79
3 West_Med 11.22
4 Baltic 5.33
5 South_Asian 0.85
6 Oceanian 0.77
7 North_Atlantic 0.61
8 Sub-Saharan 0.28
9 Red_Sea 0.18

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Abhkasian 5.46
2 Georgian 6.71
3 Adygei 14
4 Kurdish 14.89
5 Ossetian 15.16
6 Armenian 15.27
7 North_Ossetian 15.55
8 Balkar 16.41
9 Kumyk 16.76
10 Georgian_Jewish 18.17
11 Iranian 18.24
12 Kabardin 18.24
13 Azeri 18.7
14 Chechen 19.63
15 Lezgin 19.95
16 Turkish 21.23
17 Assyrian 21.87
18 Tabassaran 23.04
19 Kurdish_Jewish 25.39
20 Iranian_Jewish 25.8


Gurian



Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 52.21
2 East_Med 28.07
3 West_Med 10.08
4 Red_Sea 3
5 North_Atlantic 2.44
6 Baltic 2.43
7 South_Asian 0.74
8 Northeast_African 0.55
9 East_Asian 0.46
10 Oceanian 0.02

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Abhkasian 5.76
2 Georgian 6.21
3 Kurdish 13.09
4 Armenian 13.58
5 Adygei 14.51
6 Ossetian 14.9
7 North_Ossetian 16.09
8 Georgian_Jewish 16.56
9 Iranian 16.64
10 Balkar 16.84
11 Kumyk 16.85
12 Azeri 17.17
13 Kabardin 18.72
14 Turkish 19.85
15 Chechen 20.08
16 Lezgin 20.25
17 Assyrian 20.3
18 Tabassaran 23.19
19 Kurdish_Jewish 23.53
20 Iranian_Jewish 24.03


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PUNTDNAL K10 . same people




georgian 1

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 CHG 47.7
2 ENF 38.25
3 WHG 6.96
4 ASI 6.53
5 Oceanian 0.56

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Kurdish 6.32
2 Iranian 7.29
3 Armenian 7.39
4 Turkish_Trabzon 8.6
5 Georgian 9.45
6 Turkish_Kayseri 10.92
7 Abkhasian 11.34
8 Assyrian 12.73
9 Iraqi_Jew 14.81
10 Kumyk 15.23
11 North_Ossetian 17.31
12 Turkish_Aydin 17.89
13 Chechen 18.1
14 Syrian 19.84
15 Lezgin 20.37
16 Lebanese 20.76
17 Cypriot 21.09
18 Palestinian 21.59
19 Saudi 24.07
20 Jordanian 24.2


------------------

Georgian 2


Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 CHG 48.72
2 ENF 36.41
3 WHG 9.12
4 ASI 3.69
5 Siberian 2.03
6 E_Asian 0.02

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Georgian 7.24
2 Kurdish 8.35
3 Turkish_Trabzon 8.55
4 Iranian 9.04
5 Abkhasian 9.15
6 Armenian 9.69
7 Turkish_Kayseri 10.85
8 Kumyk 11.88
9 North_Ossetian 13.99
10 Assyrian 14.65
11 Chechen 15.45
12 Turkish_Aydin 16.49
13 Iraqi_Jew 16.95
14 Lezgin 17.5
15 Syrian 21.67
16 Cypriot 21.95
17 Lebanese 22.59
18 Palestinian 23.53
19 Ashkenazi_Jew 25.21
20 Jordanian 25.88

-----------

Georgian 3

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 CHG 47.37
2 ENF 35.24
3 WHG 10
4 E_Asian 1.93
5 Oceanian 1.92
6 ASI 1.5
7 Sub-Saharan 0.87
8 Beringian 0.75
9 Siberian 0.42

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Georgian 7.66
2 Turkish_Trabzon 8.57
3 Kurdish 9.44
4 Abkhasian 9.53
5 Iranian 10.06
6 Turkish_Kayseri 10.21
7 Kumyk 10.35
8 Armenian 10.59
9 North_Ossetian 12.49
10 Chechen 14.45
11 Turkish_Aydin 15.03
12 Assyrian 15.08
13 Lezgin 16.51
14 Iraqi_Jew 17.62
15 Syrian 21.38
16 Cypriot 21.5
17 Lebanese 22.49
18 Palestinian 23.39
19 Ashkenazi_Jew 23.92
20 Jordanian 25.38

--------------------

Georgian 4


Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 CHG 46.61
2 ENF 39.29
3 WHG 7.46
4 ASI 3.26
5 Oceanian 2.25
6 Sub-Saharan 0.59
7 Beringian 0.37
8 Siberian 0.16

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Turkish_Trabzon 6
2 Armenian 6.23
3 Kurdish 7.56
4 Georgian 9.21
5 Iranian 9.46
6 Turkish_Kayseri 9.99
7 Assyrian 11.18
8 Abkhasian 11.87
9 Iraqi_Jew 13.23
10 Kumyk 15.01
11 Turkish_Aydin 16.61
12 North_Ossetian 17.45
13 Syrian 18.58
14 Chechen 18.8
15 Lebanese 19.16
16 Cypriot 19.19
17 Palestinian 19.98
18 Lezgin 21.05
19 Jordanian 22.44
20 Saudi 22.61


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Gurian

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 CHG 47.85
2 ENF 36.1
3 WHG 11.91
4 ASI 1.85
5 Sub-Saharan 1.25
6 Oceanian 0.76
7 Siberian 0.29

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Georgian 8.13
2 Turkish_Trabzon 8.21
3 Kurdish 9.19
4 Kumyk 9.83
5 Abkhasian 10.18
6 Turkish_Kayseri 10.58
7 Armenian 10.65
8 Iranian 10.87
9 North_Ossetian 13.21
10 Chechen 14.23
11 Assyrian 14.9
12 Turkish_Aydin 15.46
13 Lezgin 16.34
14 Iraqi_Jew 17.78
15 Cypriot 20.93
16 Syrian 21.37
17 Lebanese 22.36
18 Ashkenazi_Jew 23
19 Palestinian 23.32
20 Jordanian 25.38



They are not as far from Armenians as expected, but VERY far from Levantines.

Hadouken
08-10-2018, 03:44 PM
They are not as far from Armenians as expected, but VERY far from Levantines.

they are basically first closest to the north caucasus and then to kurds and armenians. and then turks and iranians

Myanthropologies
08-10-2018, 03:50 PM
they are basically first closest to the north caucasus and then to kurds and armenians. and then turks and iranians

They seem closer to Kurds and Armenians than to the North Caucasus.

Coolguy1
08-10-2018, 03:52 PM
Can we see dodecad k12b please

Myanthropologies
08-10-2018, 03:52 PM
Interesting very low South Asian and European in comparision with the ones OP posted. Georgians and Armenians basically form a cline where Armenians are more Anatolian and Levantine shifted Georgians.

The South Caucasus in general used to be more Anatolian and ancient Levantine shifted. The Caucasus acted as a bridge rahter than a barrier for migration from Anatolia and Mesoptamia, and that is why South Caucasian populations, are a continuation of Bronze Age North Caucasian populations, whereas North Caucasian populations acquired more Northern ancestry, likely Yamnaya.

Aren
08-10-2018, 03:52 PM
they are basically first closest to the north caucasus and then to kurds and armenians. and then turks and iranians

Run them on calculators which have a Baloch/Gedrosia component and they will be quite far away from Kurds. The resemblance between Iranians/Kurds and Georgians is quite superficial, but the one with Armenians is real as one can see Eastern Armenians are quite close to Georgians and form a cline from being more Caucasus/West Asian to more Anatolian/Med.

Hadouken
08-10-2018, 03:57 PM
Run them on calculators which have a Baloch/Gedrosia component and they will be quite far away from Kurds. The resemblance between Iranians/Kurds and Georgians is quite superficial, but the one with Armenians is real as one can see Eastern Armenians are quite close to Georgians and form a cline from being more Caucasus/West Asian to more Anatolian/Med.

on those calcs armenians are closer to them than us but we also are in their list

Aren
08-10-2018, 04:01 PM
on those calcs armenians are closer to them than us but we also are in their list

Still very far, it's like Sikeliot saying Lebanese are close to Sicilians when they show up at the very bottom of the oracle lists.
Georgians have a different ethnogenesis than Kurds and more typically CHG derived, Armenians are basically Georgians shifted towards Anatolia.

Hadouken
08-10-2018, 04:02 PM
Still very far, it's like Sikeliot saying Lebanese are close to Sicilians when they show up at the very bottom of the oracle lists.
Georgians have a different ethnogenesis than Kurds and more typically CHG derived, Armenians are basically Georgians shifted towards Anatolia.

well on that calcs the distance is roughly 15 . if I remember right sicilians and lebanese are further . georgians are somewhat "far" to everybody except fellow georgians

armenians come out as 70% assyrian + 30% north caucasus if I am not wrong

btw. here a georgian harappa result

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 63.19
2 Baloch 19.3
3 SW-Asian 7.57
4 NE-Euro 4.53
5 Mediterranean 4.13
6 S-Indian 0.68
7 Papuan 0.27
8 NE-Asian 0.18
9 San 0.07
10 American 0.07
11 Pygmy 0.02

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 georgian (harappa) 3.24
2 armenian (behar) 7.34
3 armenian (yunusbayev) 8.9
4 abhkasian (yunusbayev) 9.44
5 georgian (behar) 10.52
6 azerbaijan-jew (behar) 13.21
7 north-ossetian (yunusbayev) 14.19
8 adygei (hgdp) 14.57
9 assyrian (harappa) 14.84
10 balkar (yunusbayev) 15.31
11 georgia-jew (behar) 15.65
12 azeri (harappa) 16.75
13 turk (behar) 17.05
14 armenian (harappa) 17.54
15 kurd (yunusbayev) 17.97
16 turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) 18.46
17 uzbekistan-jew (behar) 18.55
18 kumyk (yunusbayev) 18.66
19 iranian-jew (behar) 18.69
20 turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) 18.89


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they get similar scores to us but more CHG and a little less baloch . thats the main difference

Aren
08-10-2018, 04:07 PM
well on that calcs the distance is roughly 15 . if I remember right sicilians and lebanese are further . georgians are somewhat "far" to everybody except fellow georgians

armenians come out as 70% assyrian + 30% north caucasus if I am not wrong

btw. here a georgian harappa result

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 63.19
2 Baloch 19.3
3 SW-Asian 7.57
4 NE-Euro 4.53
5 Mediterranean 4.13
6 S-Indian 0.68
7 Papuan 0.27
8 NE-Asian 0.18
9 San 0.07
10 American 0.07
11 Pygmy 0.02

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 georgian (harappa) 3.24
2 armenian (behar) 7.34
3 armenian (yunusbayev) 8.9
4 abhkasian (yunusbayev) 9.44
5 georgian (behar) 10.52
6 azerbaijan-jew (behar) 13.21
7 north-ossetian (yunusbayev) 14.19
8 adygei (hgdp) 14.57
9 assyrian (harappa) 14.84
10 balkar (yunusbayev) 15.31
11 georgia-jew (behar) 15.65
12 azeri (harappa) 16.75
13 turk (behar) 17.05
14 armenian (harappa) 17.54
15 kurd (yunusbayev) 17.97
16 turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) 18.46
17 uzbekistan-jew (behar) 18.55
18 kumyk (yunusbayev) 18.66
19 iranian-jew (behar) 18.69
20 turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) 18.89


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they get similar scores to us but more CHG and a little less baloch . thats the main difference
That's quite important though, as it tells us there's a different ethnogenesis. Kurds have 10% Baloch and much less Caucasian. You can model Armenians as Georgian + Anatolian, Mespotamian or Levantine. But Kurds can't be modelled as Georgian + something else.

Hadouken
08-10-2018, 04:09 PM
That's quite important though, as it tells us there's a different ethnogenesis. Kurds have 10% Baloch and much less Caucasian. You can model Armenians as Georgian + Anatolian, Mespotamian or Levantine. But Kurds can't be modelled as Georgian + something else.

I get modelled as 75% Armenian + 25% Tajik

and I have seen kurds get modelled as georgian + something

I know whats going on though you jumped in because you thought I want to claim big closeness to georgians and now you try to cockblock xD I didnt even say anything wrong . you have issues dude get off my cock already

Hadouken
08-10-2018, 04:13 PM
btw. dodecad k12b 2 population mode of a georgian . the georgian samples on dodecad are not accurate


Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 73.7% Armenians (Behar) + 26.3% Lezgins (Behar) @ 2.71
2 53.6% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 46.4% Georgians (Behar) @ 3.36
3 50.5% Abhkasians (Yunusbayev) + 49.5% Kurds (Yunusbayev) @ 3.54
4 69.3% Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) + 30.7% Chechens (Yunusbayev) @ 3.74
5 65.2% Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) + 34.8% Adygei (HGDP) @ 3.83
6 51.1% Kurd (Dodecad) + 48.9% Georgians (Behar) @ 3.83
7 71.7% Armenians (Behar) + 28.3% Chechens (Yunusbayev) @ 3.83
8 50.9% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 49.1% Abhkasians (Yunusbayev) @ 3.92
9 53% Abhkasians (Yunusbayev) + 47% Kurd (Dodecad) @ 4.01
10 66% Armenian (Dodecad) + 34% Chechens (Yunusbayev) @ 4.11
11 67.1% Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) + 32.9% North_Ossetians (Yunusbayev) @ 4.26
12 51.3% Iranian (Dodecad) + 48.7% Georgians (Behar) @ 4.39
13 67.3% Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) + 32.7% Balkars (Yunusbayev) @ 4.41
14 73.7% Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) + 26.3% Lezgins (Behar) @ 4.43
15 70.1% Armenians (Behar) + 29.9% Kumyks (Yunusbayev) @ 4.45
16 61.7% Armenian (Dodecad) + 38.3% Adygei (HGDP) @ 4.46
17 55.2% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 44.8% Georgians (Behar) @ 4.57
18 53% Abhkasians (Yunusbayev) + 47% Iranian (Dodecad) @ 4.64
19 58.6% Abhkasians (Yunusbayev) + 41.4% Iranians (Behar) @ 4.66
20 54.4% Georgians (Behar) + 45.6% Iranians (Behar) @ 4.67

Aren
08-10-2018, 04:14 PM
I get modelled as 75% Armenian + 25% Tajik

and I have seen kurds get modelled as georgian + something

I know whats going on though you jumped in because you thought I want to claim big closeness to georgians and now you try to cockblock xD I didnt even say anything wrong . you have issues dude get off my cock already

Complexed much? Don't project please.

You are just deying it as usual but Armenians and Georgians are very related, as Armenians are just southern shifted in regards to Georgians. Kurds though are quite different as they show more South-Central Asian/Baloch but at the same time also same amount of SW Asian/Red Sea as Armenians meaning you can't model Kurds as Georgian + something else. This comes to no surprise as the Kurdish ethnogenesis happend further east in Iran and Indo-Iranian people themself despersed from Central Asia to the Iranian plateau which ofc explains the much higher Baloch/Gedrosia Kurds score.

Aren
08-10-2018, 04:17 PM
btw. dodecad k12b 2 population mode of a georgian . the georgian samples on dodecad are not accurate


Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 73.7% Armenians (Behar) + 26.3% Lezgins (Behar) @ 2.71
2 53.6% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 46.4% Georgians (Behar) @ 3.36
3 50.5% Abhkasians (Yunusbayev) + 49.5% Kurds (Yunusbayev) @ 3.54
4 69.3% Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) + 30.7% Chechens (Yunusbayev) @ 3.74
5 65.2% Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) + 34.8% Adygei (HGDP) @ 3.83
6 51.1% Kurd (Dodecad) + 48.9% Georgians (Behar) @ 3.83
7 71.7% Armenians (Behar) + 28.3% Chechens (Yunusbayev) @ 3.83
8 50.9% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 49.1% Abhkasians (Yunusbayev) @ 3.92
9 53% Abhkasians (Yunusbayev) + 47% Kurd (Dodecad) @ 4.01
10 66% Armenian (Dodecad) + 34% Chechens (Yunusbayev) @ 4.11
11 67.1% Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) + 32.9% North_Ossetians (Yunusbayev) @ 4.26
12 51.3% Iranian (Dodecad) + 48.7% Georgians (Behar) @ 4.39
13 67.3% Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) + 32.7% Balkars (Yunusbayev) @ 4.41
14 73.7% Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) + 26.3% Lezgins (Behar) @ 4.43
15 70.1% Armenians (Behar) + 29.9% Kumyks (Yunusbayev) @ 4.45
16 61.7% Armenian (Dodecad) + 38.3% Adygei (HGDP) @ 4.46
17 55.2% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 44.8% Georgians (Behar) @ 4.57
18 53% Abhkasians (Yunusbayev) + 47% Iranian (Dodecad) @ 4.64
19 58.6% Abhkasians (Yunusbayev) + 41.4% Iranians (Behar) @ 4.66
20 54.4% Georgians (Behar) + 45.6% Iranians (Behar) @ 4.67

You think we are blind or what? The best fit is

1 73.7% Armenians (Behar) + 26.3% Lezgins (Behar) @ 2.71

Obviosuly it's a southern shifted Georgian or someone who's mixed. But like I said there's a cline from Georgians to Eastern Armenians > Western Armenians > Assyrians/Mandeans, and you just showed this. Kurds and Iranians are not included in this, although they are close.

Hadouken
08-10-2018, 04:17 PM
Complexed much? Don't project please.

You are just deying it as usual but Armenians and Georgians are very related, as Armenians are just southern shifted in regards to Georgians. Kurds though are quite different as they show more South-Central Asian/Baloch but at the same time also same amount of SW Asian/Red Sea as Armenians meaning you can't model Kurds as Georgian + something else. This comes to no surprise as the Kurdish ethnogenesis happend further east in Iran and Indo-Iranian people themself despersed from Central Asia to the Iranian plateau which ofc explains the much higher Baloch/Gedrosia Kurds score.

our baloch score is only a little more than that of georgians and armenians . wtf are you talking about again . we can compare results if you want . we have more gedrosia but not a drastic difference . georgians often have 15% and can go up to 19% or so and I have 23 % . give me a break already

and I didnt claim anything about armenians btw.

Hadouken
08-10-2018, 04:18 PM
You think we are blind or what? The best fit is

1 73.7% Armenians (Behar) + 26.3% Lezgins (Behar) @ 2.71

Obviosuly it's a southern shifted Georgian or someone who's mixed. But like I said there's a cline from Georgians to Eastern Armenians > Western Armenians > Assyrians/Mandeans. Kurds and Iranians are not included in this, although they are close.

no he is not south shifted . as I said dodecad has bad georgian references .

Hadouken
08-10-2018, 04:19 PM
our baloch score is only a little more than that of georgians and armenians . wtf are you talking about again . we can compare results if you want . we have more gedrosia but not a drastic difference . georgians often have 15% and can go up to 19% or so and I have 23 % . give me a break already

and I didnt claim anything about armenians btw.

my bad I checked again . ..georgians actually score 18-21% !!! I just ran them through dodecad k12b

I score 23% so almost the same haha dude here you go

Aren
08-10-2018, 04:20 PM
out baloch score is only a little more than that of georgians and armenians . wtf are you talking about again . we can compare results if you want . we have more gedrosia but not a drastic difference . georgians often have 15% and can go up to 19% or so and I have 23 % . give me a break already

and I didnt claim anything about armenians btw.

Again people are not stupid. There are Georgian, Armenian and Kurdish averages on Gedmatch. Georgians score 18-20% Baloch , Armenians 17% and Kurds 26-28% according to the averages. That's quite the difference. Now ofc I don't believe Baloch is entirely South-Central Asian related but more so to the neolithic farmers from Iran and is thus also a shared component.

Hadouken
08-10-2018, 04:22 PM
Again people are not stupid. There are Georgian, Armenian and Kurdish averages on Gedmatch. Georgians score 18-20% Baloch , Armenians 17% and Kurds 26-28% according to the averages. That's quite the difference. Now ofc I don't believe Baloch is entirely South-Central Asian related but more so to the neolithic farmers from Iran and is thus also a shared component.

dont you read what I say ? I ran several georgian kits through the calc and the calc has bad georgian samples . but 18-20% is correct also for the kits I ran

the gedrosia average for kurds is exeggerated . probably kurds from a certain area . I score 23% like many other turkey kurds . dont ignore this and accept it already . I repeat ....I score 23% so 2-5% more than georgians . lol dude

Aren
08-10-2018, 04:26 PM
dont you read what I say ? I ran several georgian kits through the calc and the calc has bad georgian samples . but 18-20% is correct also for the kits I ran

the gedrosia average for kurds is exeggerated . probably kurds from a certain area . I score 23% like many other turkey kurds . dont ignore this and accept it already . I repeat ....I score 23% so 2-5% more than georgians . lol dude

Sure I believe you when you say that LOL.
The fact is many Kurds I've seen who posted their results are close to the Kurdish average. There's nothing wrong with the Kurdish sample, accept that and stop talking about what you score when we have an academic average.

Hadouken
08-10-2018, 04:32 PM
Sure I believe you when you say that LOL.
The fact is many Kurds I've seen who posted their results are close to the Kurdish average. There's nothing wrong with the Kurdish sample, accept that and stop talking about what you score when we have an academic average.

yeah I believe you this ...

dude I am on anthrogenica too and saw kurdish results AND I ran several kits of turkey kurds AND I score 23% myself . the average is exeggerated on the spreadsheet or at least it doesnt take us turkish kurds into account much . I dont know why this bothers you so much you are assyrian neither georgian nor armenian nor kurd . just leave it be already

btw. here a georgian and me dodecad k12b comparison

there are differences like the sw-asian score . but the differences are not that big . it is just that they are enough for the calc to place us at a distance of 15-16 to them because the calcs are very sensitive

http://up.picr.de/32080048lt.jpg

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more calcs

http://up.picr.de/32080049at.jpg

http://up.picr.de/32080051ax.jpg

http://up.picr.de/32080052ar.jpg

Aren
08-10-2018, 04:35 PM
yeah I believe you this ...

dude I am on anthrogenica too and saw kurdish results AND I ran several kits of turkey kurds AND I score 23% myself . the average is exeggerated on the spreadsheet or at least it doesnt take us turkish kurds into account much . I dont know why this bothers you so much you are assyrian neither georgian nor armenian nor kurd . just leave it be already

btw. here a georgian and me dodecad k12b comparison

there are differences like the sw-asian score . but the differences are not that big . it is just that they are enough for the calc to place us at a distance of 15-16 to them because the calcs are very sensitive

http://up.picr.de/32080048lt.jpg

You want me to post individual results too?

How about this Turkish Kurd who posted on Anthrogenica. Almost 28% Gedrosia

1 Caucasus 36.18
2 Gedrosia 27.3
3 Southwest_Asian 13.7
4 Atlantic_Med 8.47
5 North_European 7.39
6 South_Asian 3.91
7 Siberian 2.22
8 East_African 0.74
9 Sub_Saharan 0.08

1 Iranian (Dodecad) 5.18
2 Iranians (Behar) 5.35
3 Kurd (Dodecad) 5.81
4 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 6.83
5 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 12.12
6 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 14.05
7 Turks (Behar) 15.2
8 Turkish (Dodecad) 17.21
9 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 18.1
10 Iranian_Jews (Behar) 18.29
11 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 18.64
12 Assyrian (Dodecad) 18.69
13 Iraq_Jews (Behar) 19.34
14 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 19.65
15 Lebanese (Behar) 19.94
16 Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) 20.06
17 Armenian (Dodecad) 20.86
18 Syrians (Behar) 21.13
19 Lezgins (Behar) 22.76
20 Jordanians (Behar) 23.57

It's not bothering me, I just like to irritate dishonest and maipulating people like yourself. I'll say it again; Kurds have a totally different ethnogenesis than Armenians and Georgians who are quite related and form a very clear cline. There's absolutely no way of denying it.

Hadouken
08-10-2018, 04:37 PM
those results are from member mori yek right ? :lol: lol at you . he is an outlier dude and another kurdish member (Lupus82) also said that he shifts towards iran and his results are different from ours . of course you would pick him of all kurds . again check the pics of the calcs that I posted .

Aren
08-10-2018, 04:40 PM
those results are from member mori yek right ? :lol: lol at you . he is an outlier dude and another kurdish member (Lupus82) also said that he shifts towards iran and his results are different from ours . of course you would pick him of all kurds . again check the pics of the calcs that I posted .

AHAHAHAHAH you are so deranged. So you are not an outlier, but he is? Who's further away from the Kurdish average? You are so dishonest.
I only picked him cause you were shoving your results in our faces when we have a Kurdish academic average. He's just as Kurdish as you are.

Pahli
08-10-2018, 04:43 PM
My results

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 39.48
2 Gedrosia 26.59
3 Southwest_Asian 14.07
4 Atlantic_Med 7.78
5 North_European 5.51
6 South_Asian 3.24
7 Northwest_African 2
8 Siberian 0.58
9 East_Asian 0.54
10 East_African 0.22

Hadouken
08-10-2018, 04:44 PM
AHAHAHAHAH you are so deranged. So you are not an outlier, but he is? Who's further away from the Kurdish average? You are so dishonest.
I only picked him cause you were shoving your results in our faces when we have a Kurdish academic average. He's just as Kurdish as you are.

I am not an outlier for turkish kurds but he is yes . as I said Lupus82 is also a kurdish member from turkey and his results are closer to mine than to that of mori yek

I already explained you baboon that the spreadsheets dont take us turkish kurds much into account . on gedrosia dna the samples are also odd iraqi kurds and I dont get them in my top 10 even ....not because I am atypical but because the samples are not accurate . you understand that ? fuck this is bothersome

mori yek has a heavy iran shift which us other kurdish members dont have . lupus82 , me , MfA . and others . you cherrpicked the most outlying kurd out of all of us . just lol at you . your shit doesnt work on me

"academic" gtfo

Hadouken
08-10-2018, 04:45 PM
My results

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 39.48
2 Gedrosia 26.59
3 Southwest_Asian 14.07
4 Atlantic_Med 7.78
5 North_European 5.51
6 South_Asian 3.24
7 Northwest_African 2
8 Siberian 0.58
9 East_Asian 0.54
10 East_African 0.22

even you as an iranian kurd get a little less than 28% from the spreadsheet . I and many turkish kurds score less

Aren
08-10-2018, 04:49 PM
I am not an outlier for turkish kurds but he is yes . as I said Lupus82 is also a kurdish member from turkey and his results are closer to mine than to that of mori yek

I already explained you baboon that the spreadsheets dont take us turkish kurds much into account . on gedrosia dna the samples are also odd iraqi kurds and I dont get them in my top 10 even ....not because I am atypical but because the samples are not accurate . you understand that ? fuck this is bothersome

mori yek has a heavy iran shift which us other kurdish members dont have . lupus82 , me , MfA . and others . you cherrpicked the most outlying kurd out of all of us . just lol at you . your shit doesnt work on me

"academic" gtfo

Blah blah blah. If you think I for one second trust your "explanations" regarding the averages you are in deep deep denial.
I posted an Turkish Kurd just like you keep posting your scores. If he's an outlier so are you. There are plenty of other Turkish Kurds who score just like Mori Yek. The fact that he's so close to Iranian and Iraqi Kurds means in fact that he's more Kurdish than you. Means you probably have more assimilated Armenian and Anatolian ancestry.
Disgusting liar, you are so dishonest.

Pahli
08-10-2018, 04:49 PM
even you as an iranian kurd get a little less than 28% from the spreadsheet . I and many turkish kurds score less

I have some ancestry from Loristan as well so ...

Hadouken
08-10-2018, 04:50 PM
Blah blah blah. If you think I for one second trust your "explanations" regarding the averages you are in deep deep denial.
I posted an Turkish Kurd just like you keep posting your scores. If he's an outlier so are you. There are plenty of other Turkish Kurds who score just like Mori Yek. The fact that he's so close to Iranian and Iraqi Kurds means in fact that he's more Kurdish than you. Means you probably have more assimilated Armenian and Anatolian ancestry.
Disgusting liar, you are so dishonest.

but as I told you the other kurdish members from turkey on anthrogenica score similar to me . and I have run kits and most of them also come out similar . mori yek is atypical not me

lol at you wtf is wrong with you you annoying idiot

I am very kurdish . my dad is kurdish my mom is kurdish . just lol at you

Aren
08-10-2018, 04:57 PM
but as I told you the other kurdish members from turkey on anthrogenica score similar to me . and I have run kits and most of them also come out similar . mori yek is atypical not me

lol at you wtf is wrong with you you annoying idiot

I am very kurdish . my dad is kurdish my mom is kurdish . just lol at you

Wtf is wrong with me xD
This is rich

Ofc you have assimilated Armenian/Anatolian roots, compare your results with other Kurds from Iran and Iraq.

Hadouken
08-10-2018, 04:59 PM
Wtf is wrong with me xD
This is rich

Ofc you have assimilated Armenian/Anatolian roots, compare your results with other Kurds from Iran and Iraq.

I am kurdish dude get over it

it is just natural that kurds from different parts have differences . the arab score on dna land or gencove of iraqi kurds is a lot higher than mine . we are not arabs so the iraqi kurds are the mixed ones if anything . but yeah ignore such things

you have to get off my cock already dude I am serious . if you want to have trouble with me you can pm me and if you want we can even meet up because you seem to seek trouble with me by all force . but get off my cock I want to have fun in the forum and not bother with a faceless assyrian hater

Aren
08-10-2018, 05:03 PM
I am kurdish dude get over it

it is just natural that kurds from different parts have differences . the arab score on dna land or gencove of iraqi kurds is a lot higher than mine . we are not arabs so the iraqi kurds are the mixed ones if anything . but yeah ignore such things

you have to get off my cock already dude I am serious . if you want to have trouble with me you can pm me and if you want we can even meet up because you seem to seek trouble with me by all force . but get off my cock I want to have fun in the forum and not bother with a faceless assyrian hater

How dumb can you get? Just because you have distant assimilated Armenian roots doesn't make you not a Kurd wtf? It just means you're genetically less Kurdish than Iranian and Iraqi Kurds who have stayed more intact and didn't mix with other people until recently.
The fact that you can find Turkish Kurds like Mori Yek still so close to Iranian and Iraqi Kurds is proof of that.

Accept it your ancestors practiced extensive bride stealing which is probably the explanation of your Anatolian/Armenian shift.

Hadouken
08-10-2018, 05:06 PM
How dumb can you get? Just because you have distant assimilated Armenian roots doesn't make you not a Kurd wtf? It just means you're genetically less Kurdish than Iranian and Iraqi Kurds who have stayed more intact and didn't mix with other people until recently.
The fact that you can find Turkish Kurds like Mori Yek still so close to Iranian and Iraqi Kurds is proof of that.

Accept it your ancestors practiced extensive bride stealing which is probably the explanation of your Anatolian/Armenian shift.

you ignore everything I say . you also deny any proof

yeah I am the atypical one of course ;) AGAIN YOU ******** : OTHER TURKISH KURDS RESULTS ARE VERY SIMILAR TO MINE !!!!! I AM KURDISH AND I ALSO ASKED MY PARENTS IF WE HAVE ARMENIAN ROOTS AND THEY SAID NO . OF COURSE I PROBABLY HAVE ANATOLIAN ANCESTRY BECAUSE I AM FROM TURKEY BUT THAT DOESNT MEAN ANYTHING BECAUSE IRAQI KURDS AND OTHER KURDS HAVE ALSO OTHER MIXTURE LIKE ARAB AS I JUST TOLD YOU ABOVE

StonyArabia
08-10-2018, 05:06 PM
Iraqi Kurds are genetically identical to Persians, but they at times show an Arab shift or affinity, but their not mixed completely lol

Hadouken
08-10-2018, 05:07 PM
Iraqi Kurds are identical to Persians, but they at times show an Arab shift or affinity, but their not mixed completely lol

but they score a LOT more arab than I do on any test

Pahli
08-10-2018, 05:09 PM
Iraqi Kurds are genetically identical to Persians, but they at times show an Arab shift or affinity, but their not mixed completely lol

Iraqi Kurds are slightly Arab shifted, some more than others, but in general more than what both me and Hadouken are

StonyArabia
08-10-2018, 05:10 PM
but they score a LOT more arab than I do on any test

They do have some Arab elements afterall their neighbours are Arabs, it's due to geography, even Lurs show Arab affinities. However the core of their ancestry is Iranian/Azeri like. There was an Iraqi Kurdish member who was genetically identical to Azeris, but with higher Arab affinity of course.

Hadouken
08-10-2018, 05:12 PM
They do have some Arab elements afterall their neighbours are Arabs, it's due to geography, even Lurs show Arab affinities. However the core of their ancestry is Iranian/Azeri like. There was an Iraqi Kurdish member who was genetically identical to Azeris, but with higher Arab affinity of course.

you mean Halgurd . he was part turkoman if I am not wrong and his results were mostly "normal" kurdish . but the iraqi kurd samples from "kurd" the mofo are different even from him

because of Aren the fucktard another thread is going off topic . I am talking on pm with him right now hopefully this will change

Babak
08-10-2018, 05:13 PM
They do have some Arab elements afterall their neighbours are Arabs, it's due to geography, even Lurs show Arab affinities. However the core of their ancestry is Iranian/Azeri like. There was an Iraqi Kurdish member who was genetically identical to Azeris, but with higher Arab affinity of course.

Halgurd did not have any Arab affinity at all. He was identical to Iranian azeris with additional steppe.

Aren
08-10-2018, 05:15 PM
I'M ANGRY

You are atypical, deal with it.

Btw Kurdish woman from 14th century, from western Iran

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 42.28
2 Gedrosia 26.27
3 Southwest_Asian 14.29
4 North_European 9.51
5 Atlantic_Med 5.89
6 South_Asian 1.23
7 Northwest_African 0.31
8 Sub_Saharan 0.16
9 Siberian 0.05

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 3.32
2 Kurd (Dodecad) 4.92
3 Iranian (Dodecad) 5.73
4 Iranians (Behar) 8.76
5 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 8.9
6 Turks (Behar) 12.81
7 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 14.18
8 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 14.42
9 Assyrian (Dodecad) 15
10 Iranian_Jews (Behar) 15.03
11 Turkish (Dodecad) 15.27
12 Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) 15.44
13 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 16.3
14 Armenian (Dodecad) 16.54
15 Iraq_Jews (Behar) 16.8
16 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 18.18
17 Lebanese (Behar) 19.01
18 Lezgins (Behar) 19.41
19 Armenians (Behar) 19.63
20 Syrians (Behar) 21.07

Compare her to you and she scores much lower Atlantic-Med(Anatolian farmer genes), and no South Asian and Siberian/East Asian. Her SW Asian or "Arab" as you keep referring it is on the same level as you.
Very clear here that you are Anatolian shifted in comparison to her.

Hadouken
08-10-2018, 05:16 PM
^ do I talk against a wall ? is this for real ? this must be a joke ....

I think something in your head is not okay I am serious . answer me on pm dont let this go off topic

Babak
08-10-2018, 05:16 PM
You are atypical, deal with it.

Btw Kurdish woman from 14th century, from western Iran

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 42.28
2 Gedrosia 26.27
3 Southwest_Asian 14.29
4 North_European 9.51
5 Atlantic_Med 5.89
6 South_Asian 1.23
7 Northwest_African 0.31
8 Sub_Saharan 0.16
9 Siberian 0.05

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 3.32
2 Kurd (Dodecad) 4.92
3 Iranian (Dodecad) 5.73
4 Iranians (Behar) 8.76
5 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 8.9
6 Turks (Behar) 12.81
7 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 14.18
8 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 14.42
9 Assyrian (Dodecad) 15
10 Iranian_Jews (Behar) 15.03
11 Turkish (Dodecad) 15.27
12 Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) 15.44
13 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 16.3
14 Armenian (Dodecad) 16.54
15 Iraq_Jews (Behar) 16.8
16 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 18.18
17 Lebanese (Behar) 19.01
18 Lezgins (Behar) 19.41
19 Armenians (Behar) 19.63
20 Syrians (Behar) 21.07

Compare her to you and she scores much lower Atlantic-Med(Anatolian farmer genes), and no South Asian and Siberian/East Asian. Her SW Asian or "Arab" as you keep referring it is on the same level as you.
Very clear here that you are Anatolian shifted in comparison to her.


oop nvm, its a diff calculator lol

Pahli
08-10-2018, 05:17 PM
You are atypical, deal with it.

Btw Kurdish woman from 14th century, from western Iran

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 42.28
2 Gedrosia 26.27
3 Southwest_Asian 14.29
4 North_European 9.51
5 Atlantic_Med 5.89
6 South_Asian 1.23
7 Northwest_African 0.31
8 Sub_Saharan 0.16
9 Siberian 0.05

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 3.32
2 Kurd (Dodecad) 4.92
3 Iranian (Dodecad) 5.73
4 Iranians (Behar) 8.76
5 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 8.9
6 Turks (Behar) 12.81
7 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 14.18
8 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 14.42
9 Assyrian (Dodecad) 15
10 Iranian_Jews (Behar) 15.03
11 Turkish (Dodecad) 15.27
12 Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) 15.44
13 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 16.3
14 Armenian (Dodecad) 16.54
15 Iraq_Jews (Behar) 16.8
16 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 18.18
17 Lebanese (Behar) 19.01
18 Lezgins (Behar) 19.41
19 Armenians (Behar) 19.63
20 Syrians (Behar) 21.07

Compare her to you and she scores much lower Atlantic-Med(Anatolian farmer genes), and no South Asian and Siberian/East Asian. Her SW Asian or "Arab" as you keep referring it is on the same level as you.
Very clear here that you are Anatolian shifted in comparison to her.

She is quite similar to me, but a bit more Steppe shifted


oop nvm, its a diff calculator lol

Mongol conquest and all

Hadouken
08-10-2018, 05:17 PM
her results are similar to mine even . she only has 2-3 % differences here and there

Aren is ridiculous

Aren
08-10-2018, 05:20 PM
^ do I talk against a wall ? is this for real ? this must be a joke ....

I think something in your head is not okay I am serious . answer me on pm dont let this go off topic

I think what's not okay is for you to diminish your Armenian heritage, although probably due to bride kidnapping it's still a part of your ancestry.

Aren
08-10-2018, 05:21 PM
her results are similar to mine even . she only has 2-3 % differences here and there

Aren is ridiculous

You score twice as much Atlantic-Med xD
Wonder from where..?

Also explain to me how this woman from the southern edge of "Kurdistan" has about the same SW Asian scores as you, from central-eastern Anatolia.

Hadouken
08-10-2018, 05:22 PM
You score twice as much Atlantic-Med xD
Wonder from where..?

so according to you everybody from the same ethnicity has to score the exact amount of a component . ouuuuukaaaaaayyy

Babak
08-10-2018, 05:24 PM
She is quite similar to me, but a bit more Steppe shifted



Mongol conquest and all

she has no siberian tho

Hadouken
08-10-2018, 05:26 PM
Aren and me might meet up hopefully

Aren
08-10-2018, 05:27 PM
so according to you everybody from the same ethnicity has to score the exact amount of a component . ouuuuukaaaaaayyy

So you score 10% and she 6% is totally normal? The fact that your Gedrosia is much lower and Northern Euro also lower doesn't tell you anything either? A hint, Armenians have lower Gedrosia and Northern Euro than her too. It's quite obvious for anyone with two functioning eyes that you are significantly Armenian shifted in comparison to her.

rein
08-10-2018, 05:28 PM
Aren and me might meet up hopefully

How exciting!

Hadouken
08-10-2018, 05:28 PM
How exciting!

he doesnt want though

Babak
08-10-2018, 05:29 PM
How exciting!

lol