Anyone do the Global25?

[Gründig]

Anyone? how accurate was it for you?

Was it hard to figure out? I've never done one of these DIY sort of calculators.

[GreentheViper]

I've never even heard about it, who made it?

[Gründig]

I've never even heard about it, who made it?

It's by the same guy who made K13.

[Gründig]

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[Slavic Italian]

I did. Not a fan. Davidski subscribes to the theory that people are generally three ethnicities or his remarks imply that. In reality that is not true due to migration patterns alone and mixing of course. He got some of mine right. I am skeptical of others but at the same time he was not wrong. But he only includes three populations in his models.

[Gründig]

I did. Not a fan. Davidski subscribes to the theory that people are generally three ethnicities or his remarks imply that. In reality that is not true due to migration patterns alone and mixing of course. He got some of mine right. I am skeptical of others but at the same time he was not wrong. But he only includes three populations in his models.

Which tests did he run for you? The map plotting European PCA and the nmonte ancient populations one?

[Gründig]

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[J. Ketch]

It requires a bit of knowledge about the ancient populations/samples and your likely admixture to be able to get the best out of it, and what should be accurate results. Pretty interesting and informative if you have the basics downpat.

[Gründig]

It requires a bit of knowledge about the ancient populations/samples and your likely admixture to be able to get the best out of it, and what should be accurate results. Pretty interesting and informative if you have the basics downpat.

You can also run it with David's modern populations file.

[Gründig]

I figured more people would have done this.

It's by the same guy whos responsible for eurogenes.

[Thambi]

"distance%=2.441"
Thambi_scaled
"Saidu_Sharif_IA_o" 76.85
"Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA1" 14.15
"Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA3" 7.4
"Onge" 1.2
"Sintashta_MLBA" 0.4
"Gonur2_BA" 0
"Saidu_Sharif_IA" 0
"Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2" 0

"distance%=3.4588"
Thambi_scaled
Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA3,89.6
Parkhai_Eneolithic,2.4
Sintashta_MLBA,2.4
Onge,2
Ganj_Dareh_N,1.4
Zevakinskiy_MLBA,1.2
Kusunda,1
Kusunda,0.8

[Gründig]

"distance%=2.441"
Thambi_scaled
"Saidu_Sharif_IA_o" 76.85
"Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA1" 14.15
"Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA3" 7.4
"Onge" 1.2
"Sintashta_MLBA" 0.4
"Gonur2_BA" 0
"Saidu_Sharif_IA" 0
"Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2" 0

"distance%=3.4588"
Thambi_scaled
Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA3,89.6
Parkhai_Eneolithic,2.4
Sintashta_MLBA,2.4
Onge,2
Ganj_Dareh_N,1.4
Zevakinskiy_MLBA,1.2
Kusunda,1
Kusunda,0.8

Very cool. I'll have to look some of those populations up.

Have you run it with the modern population sheet?

[Gründig]

Here are some ancient results of mine:

distance%=2.6105

Germany_Medieval,55 (Germanic)
Italian_Tuscan,24.6 (Seems to be Roman influence or celtic, not sure. Used in place of ancient sample.)
England_Roman,11.2 (Celtic)
Slavic_Bohemia,9.2 (Slavic)



(Thanks to Aren for running this and for all the help.)

[J. Ketch]

Here are some ancient results of mine:

distance%=2.6105

Germany_Medieval,55 (Germanic)
Italian_Tuscan,24.6 (Seems to be Roman influence or celtic, not sure)
England_Roman,11.2 (Celtic)
Slavic_Bohemia,9.2 (Slavic)



(Thanks to Aren for running this and for all the help.)
The Roman influence in Southern Germany appears to be damn strong.

[Gründig]

The Roman influence in Southern Germany appears to be damn strong.

It seems to be! From what I've learned, there doesn't seem to be enough samples from Romans and Roman era southern German Celts to pinpoint it exactly.

[Hulu]

It seems to be! From what I've learned, there doesn't seem to be enough samples from Romans and Roman era southern German Celts to pinpoint it exactly.

Why should Celts of Roman era show as tuscans? Makes no sense.

[Gründig]

Why should Celts of Roman era show as tuscans? Makes no sense.

I had help with this and from what I was told, there isn't a proper sample from that area/time period in my case. So Tuscan was used to show the southern pull. That's why I can't pinpoint exactly what it is.

[J. Ketch]

I had help with this and from what I was told, there isn't a proper sample from that area/time period in my case. So Tuscan was used to show the southern pull. That's why I can't pinpoint exactly what it is.
I don't know how Germanised (genetically) Southern Germany was by the time of Roman colonisation, but I'm sure the native Celts would be quite distinct from Central Italians (Tuscans and Romans). The only Italian population they might have been close to were Northern Cisalpine Gauls, so maybe running a model with Northern Italians as well as Tuscans will give you a better idea as to how much of it is Roman vs Celt.

[J. Ketch]

Just ran the same 4 populations as Grundig for myself in the G25 web service

Fit 1.5678

England_Roman 71.67
Germany Medieval 28.33
Italian Tuscan 0
Slavic Bohemia 0

A pretty good approximation. Being half English & Irish makes me around 3/4 Insular Celt (England Roman), and 1/4 Nordic (Germany Medieval).

[Hulu]

Just ran the same 4 populations as Grundig for myself in the G25 web service

Fit 1.5678

England_Roman 71.67
Germany Medieval 28.33
Italian Tuscan 0
Slavic Bohemia 0

A pretty good approximation. Being half English & Irish makes me around 3/4 Insular Celt (England Roman), and 1/4 Nordic (Germany Medieval).

How do you run this?

[J. Ketch]

How do you run this?
If you mean the Global25 you have to buy your coordinates from Davidski and follow the instructions. If you mean the web service you have to buy the coordinates and ask to be added.

[Hulu]

If you mean the Global25 you have to buy your coordinates from Davidski and follow the instructions. If you mean the web service you have to buy the coordinates and ask to be added.

I'm only interested for the breakdown in those 4 populations.

[J. Ketch]

I'm only interested for the breakdown in those 4 populations.
That is just one combination of countless ones you can do in the G25.

[Gründig]

I don't know how Germanised (genetically) Southern Germany was by the time of Roman colonisation, but I'm sure the native Celts would be quite distinct from Central Italians (Tuscans and Romans). The only Italian population they might have been close to were Northern Cisalpine Gauls, so maybe running a model with Northern Italians as well as Tuscans will give you a better idea as to how much of it is Roman vs Celt.


Just ran the same 4 populations as Grundig for myself in the G25 web service

Fit 1.5678

England_Roman 71.67
Germany Medieval 28.33
Italian Tuscan 0
Slavic Bohemia 0

A pretty good approximation. Being half English & Irish makes me around 3/4 Insular Celt (England Roman), and 1/4 Nordic (Germany Medieval).

I will have to give the north Italian run a shot when I get home from work.

Cool results, mine seem to be pretty accurate for me as well.

How do you go about using the g25 web service?

[J. Ketch]

I will have to give the north Italian run a shot when I get home from work.

Cool results, mine seem to be pretty accurate for me as well.

How do you go about using the g25 web service?
You have to ask Poi on the Anthrogenica forum to be added with your coordinates. It's much, much more convenient, but you can only run 4 populations at a time.

[Gründig]

You have to ask Poi on the Anthrogenica forum to be added with your coordinates. It's much, much more convenient, but you can only run 4 populations at a time.

It definitely seems that way. I just messaged him, thanks.

[Vojnik]

If you mean the Global25 you have to buy your coordinates from Davidski and follow the instructions. If you mean the web service you have to buy the coordinates and ask to be added.

Where do you buy them from? And what information do you send to him? Raw data?

[karakartal]

My father side is full Balkan Turk; my mother side is Anatolian (Mostly Anatolian Istanbul) Turk.

My results is very accurate for me. I prefer this.

[Grace O'Malley]

Just ran the same 4 populations as Grundig for myself in the G25 web service

Fit 1.5678

England_Roman 71.67
Germany Medieval 28.33
Italian Tuscan 0
Slavic Bohemia 0

A pretty good approximation. Being half English & Irish makes me around 3/4 Insular Celt (England Roman), and 1/4 Nordic (Germany Medieval).

Similar to you but you're a bit closer.

"fit": 1.791,
"England_Roman": 73.33,
"Germany_Medieval": 26.67,
"Italian_Tuscan": 0,
"Slavic_Bohemia": 0,

Adding Anglo-Saxon improves my fit.

"fit": 1.3559,
"England_Anglo-Saxon": 57.5,
"England_Roman": 35.83,
"Germany_Medieval": 6.67,
"Italian_Tuscan": 0,
"Slavic_Bohemia": 0,

[Grace O'Malley]

Where do you buy them from? And what information do you send to him? Raw data?

Your raw data. I think it costs about $25.

Info here.

http://bga101.blogspot.com/2018/02/the-powerful-global-25-now-available.html