Muslims: Do you think awm al-Qiyamah is close?

[Teutone]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vvgbde_xkHs

[Bosniensis]

Arabs call it Qiyamah, We call it Armageddon.

It's real, but it will be staged.

Muhammed said: "Woe to the Arabs of the great threat that is approaching, the Gog and Magog have breached the barrier (Wall) " (he was talking about steppe people, and according to modern understanding
Gog and Magog are Germanic, Slavic and Turkic peoples) then he was asked: "Are we gonna be destroyed even if there are good people among us?" he replied: "Yes you will be" then he was asked When: "When wickedness spread across Arab world"

This means destruction of Arabs.

He also said: "Gog and Magog will move to Sham (Israel) , all o them in a large numbers and last of them will be passing near lake of Tiber (Sea of Galilee) and he will say: There was once water here"
he said: "Gog and Magog will drink all water in the world" (through corrupting it and consuming it without any care)

He said: "Malhama (The War of all Wars will happen) Gog and Magog will fire their arrows in the sky and they will fall with something like blood on them, War will last 7 years (or months narrator isn't sure) the conclusion of War will be Conquest of Constantinople, Conquest of Constantinople will immediately appearance of Anti-Christ"

He said: "Jesus son of Mary will murder Anti-Christ he will come down from heaven and appear in Syria", Anti-Christ will appear in the east (from Persia direction)

He said: "People will hide on mountains from Gog and Magog and Anti-Christ"

He said: The world will not end until Romans convert to Islam, and the world will not end until Romans would be the most numerous people on Earth

[Teutone]

Arabs call it Qiyamah, We call it Armageddon.

It's real, but it will be staged.

Muhammed said: "Woe to the Arabs of the great threat that is approaching, the Gog and Magog have breached the barrier (Wall) " (he was talking about steppe people, and according to modern understanding
Gog and Magog are Germanic, Slavic and Turkic peoples) then he was asked: "Are we gonna be destroyed even if there are good people among us?" he replied: "Yes you will be" then he was asked When: "When wickedness spread across Arab world"

This means destruction of Arabs.

He also said: "Gog and Magog will move to Sham (Israel) , all o them in a large numbers and last of them will be passing near lake of Tiber (Sea of Galilee) and he will say: There was once water here"
he said: "Gog and Magog will drink all water in the world" (through corrupting it and consuming it without any care)

He said: "Malhama (The War of all Wars will happen) Gog and Magog will fire their arrows in the sky and they will fall with something like blood on them, War will last 7 years (or months narrator isn't sure) the conclusion of War will be Conquest of Constantinople, Conquest of Constantinople will immediately appearance of Anti-Christ"

He said: "People will hide on mountains from Gog and Magog and Anti-Christ"

He said: The world will not end until Romans convert to Islam, and the world will not end until Romans would be the most numerous people on Earth

What sura is this?

[Bosniensis]

What sura is this?

It's selected quotes from various narration "Hadiths", those quotations aren't official part of religion, but his narration saved by various peoples who lived in Muhammeds proximity (his friends).

You can browse here. https://sunnah.com/ by searching in english langauge.

[Vlatko Vukovic]

This means destruction of Arabs.

Not true really. In the Islam, among all other, Qiyamah day will be when the Muslims are ruling the world (under the imam Mehdi), and among other, the real Muslims believe in the final battle between Christians and Muslims in the Rome. Btw. the Rome was the main goal for the Ottoman Empire entire all of their history, becouse, if they did conquer Rome, they would prove the Muhammed prophecy.

[Teutone]

It's selected quotes from various narration "Hadiths", those quotations aren't official part of religion, but his narration saved by various peoples who lived in Muhammeds proximity (his friends).

You can browse here. https://sunnah.com/ by searching in english langauge.

Well hadith are calssified in authentic or not by trustworthy scholars

[Teutone]

Not true really. In the Islam, among all other, Qiyamah day will be when the Muslims are ruling the world (under the imam Mehdi), and among other, the real Muslims believe in the final battle between Christians and Muslims in the Rome. Btw. the Rome was the main goal for the Ottoman Empire entire all of their history, becouse, if they did conquer Rome, they would prove the Muhammed prophecy.

I thought its about the arrivals of the dajjal and ISA will kil dajjal

[Vlatko Vukovic]

I thought its about the arrivals of the dajjal and ISA will kil dajjal

Yes, it is also related to it. But i answered to Bosniensis about "destruction of Arabs" which should not happen according to Islam.

[Teutone]

Yes, it is also related to it. But i answered to Bosniensis about "destruction of Arabs" which should not happen according to Islam.

It was clear he imbeded his political fantasies into this :D

[Kamal900]

I thought its about the arrivals of the dajjal and ISA will kil dajjal

Yes. Jesus will kill Dajjal or the anti-Christ and the Jews that follow him as their messiah because they rejected Jesus as their messiah. In their Talmud, they regard Jesus as a bastard and his mother a whore.

[Teutone]

Yes. Jesus will kill Dajjal or the anti-Christ and the Jews that follow him as their messiah because they rejected Jesus as their messiah. In their Talmud, they regard Jesus as a bastard and his mother a whore.

But back to topic, did you saw the video?

It looks pretty crazy how accurate the signs will be followed

[Bosniensis]

Destruction of Arabs confirmed:

https://sunnah.com/bukhari/60/26

That the Prophet (ﷺ) once came to her in a state of fear and said, "None has the right to be worshipped but Allah. Woe unto the Arabs from a danger that has come near. An opening has been made in the wall of Gog and Magog like this," making a circle with his thumb and index finger. Zainab bint Jahsh said, "O Allah's Messenger (ﷺ)! Shall we be destroyed even though there are pious persons among us?" He said, "Yes, when the evil person will increase."

[Kamal900]

But back to topic, did you saw the video?

It looks pretty crazy how accurate the signs will be followed

Even the signs regarding on Jews gathering to Israel and proclaim Jerusalem as the capital of the world as what the early Zionist leaders envisioned it AKA New World Order. Dajjal like Jesus would be a Jew, and he would rule the world by proxy from Israel until Jesus or 3essa in Arabic would come back from the heavens and kill him and the Jews.

[Teutone]

Even the signs regarding on Jews gathering to Israel and proclaim Jerusalem as the capital of the world as what the early Zionist leaders envisioned it AKA New World Order. Dajjal like Jesus would be a Jew, and he would rule the world by proxy from Israel until Jesus or 3essa in Arabic would come back from the heavens and kill him and the Jews.

How can you think the signs are true and close and still not live as muslim?

[Kamal900]

How can you think the signs are true and close and still not live as muslim?

I'm agnostic and I'm not some militant atheist or something, but at the same time, I have my great doubts.

[Teutone]

Destruction of Arabs confirmed:

https://sunnah.com/bukhari/60/26

That the Prophet (ﷺ) once came to her in a state of fear and said, "None has the right to be worshipped but Allah. Woe unto the Arabs from a danger that has come near. An opening has been made in the wall of Gog and Magog like this," making a circle with his thumb and index finger. Zainab bint Jahsh said, "O Allah's Messenger (ﷺ)! Shall we be destroyed even though there are pious persons among us?" He said, "Yes, when the evil person will increase."

Isnt that sura from a time were arabs were still about to be completly islamized and still were muschrik

[Bosniensis]

Isnt that sura from a time were arabs were still about to be completly islamized and still were muschrik

Sura is a verse (a line) in Qur'an, this is just a narration from someone who was his friend who wrote it down and is now part of Book collection called "Hadith" meaning "Narration"

Qur'an does have narrations related to Judgment day, but not that one.

[Bosniensis]

In sura: Romans, it says:

"Romans have been defeated" (multiple times)
"In the nearest land (also meaning Lowest Place on Earth) But they, after their defeat, will overcome. "
"In just a few years. To God belongs the command before and after. And that day the believers will rejoice"
"In the victory of God. He gives victory to whom He wills, and He is the Exalted in Might, the Merciful."
"[It is] God's promise. God does not fail in His promise, but most of the people do not know."

https://i.imgur.com/ny0fioG.png

The final fight of Ottoman Empire (which was Islamic version of Byzantine Empire) collapsed after battle of Megiddo,
and Megiddo is the lowest place on Earth Liman von Sanders and Cevat Pasa failed to defend Pro-Israel forces (UK, etc..)

So it is my interpretation that in time to come probably Europeans (modern Turkey included) will again Fight MENA Greater Israel, but this time they will win.

This is all part of Armageddon War.

[Teutone]

In sura: Romans, it says:

"Romans have been defeated" (multiple times)
"In the nearest land (also meaning Lowest Place on Earth) But they, after their defeat, will overcome. "
"In just a few years. To God belongs the command before and after. And that day the believers will rejoice"
"In the victory of God. He gives victory to whom He wills, and He is the Exalted in Might, the Merciful."
"[It is] God's promise. God does not fail in His promise, but most of the people do not know."

https://i.imgur.com/ny0fioG.png

The final fight of Ottoman Empire (which was Islamic version of Byzantine Empire) collapsed after battle of Megiddo,
and Megiddo is the lowest place on Earth Liman von Sanders and Cevat Pasa failed to defend Pro-Israel forces (UK, etc..)

So it is my interpretation that in time to come probably Europeans (modern Turkey included) will again Fight MENA Greater Israel, but this time they will win.

This is all part of Armageddon War.

Im sure you exclusevly have this interpretation but intresting neverless

[Vlatko Vukovic]

Destruction of Arabs confirmed:

https://sunnah.com/bukhari/60/26

That the Prophet (ﷺ) once came to her in a state of fear and said, "None has the right to be worshipped but Allah. Woe unto the Arabs from a danger that has come near. An opening has been made in the wall of Gog and Magog like this," making a circle with his thumb and index finger. Zainab bint Jahsh said, "O Allah's Messenger (ﷺ)! Shall we be destroyed even though there are pious persons among us?" He said, "Yes, when the evil person will increase."

“I have been ordered to fight the people till they say: ‘None has the right to be worshipped but Allah. And if they say so, pray like our prayers, face our Qibla and slaughter as we slaughter, then their blood and property will be sacred to us and we will not interfere with them. . .’” (Bukhari 8: 387)

[Vlatko Vukovic]

The reallity is that in Islam, Arabs are the highest people in the World, with best language, best people, best writings, etc... And you think that Muhammed said that they would be destructed :D :D

[Papa]

The final fight of Ottoman Empire (which was Islamic version of Byzantine Empire) collapsed after battle of Megiddo,
and Megiddo is the lowest place on Earth Liman von Sanders and Cevat Pasa failed to defend Pro-Israel forces (UK, etc..)

So it is my interpretation that in time to come probably Europeans (modern Turkey included) will again Fight MENA Greater Israel, but this time they will win.

This is all part of Armageddon War.


Megiddo is 151m above sea level, BTW.

The lowest place on Earth is Baku actually, with 28m below sea level.

[Bosniensis]

Megiddo is 151m above sea level, BTW.

The lowest place on Earth is Baku actually, with 28m below sea level.

Haa?

Neot HaKikar, Israel [−345 m (−1,132 ft)], Israeli settlement just south of Dead Sea. 30.9330972°N 35.3766972°E
Dead Sea, Jordan – West Bank – Israel [−430 m (−1,411 ft)], lowest land in Asia and the world 31°30′N 35°30′E
Jericho, West Bank [−258 m (−846 ft)], lowest city in the world 31.85°N 35.46°E
Bet She'an, Israel (between Tiberias and Jericho) [−122 m (−400 ft)] 32.50°N 35.50°E
Sea of Galilee, Israel [−214 m (−702 ft)] 32.80°N 35.60°E
Tiberias, Israel [−207 m (−679 ft)] 32.7966°N 35.535717°E


Whole Israel is bellow the sea level

[Bosniensis]

The reallity is that in Islam, Arabs are the highest people in the World, with best language, best people, best writings, etc... And you think that Muhammed said that they would be destructed :D :D

Yes, I've quoted you sahih hadith, he said: YES YOU WILL BE DESTROYED.

There is another one where one Arab Asks him after AntiChrist where will Arabs be, he said: "You will be very few"

Nevermind I don't want to discuss about this it's pointless.

[Papa]

Haa?

Neot HaKikar, Israel [−345 m (−1,132 ft)], Israeli settlement just south of Dead Sea. 30.9330972°N 35.3766972°E
Dead Sea, Jordan – West Bank – Israel [−430 m (−1,411 ft)], lowest land in Asia and the world 31°30′N 35°30′E
Jericho, West Bank [−258 m (−846 ft)], lowest city in the world 31.85°N 35.46°E
Bet She'an, Israel (between Tiberias and Jericho) [−122 m (−400 ft)] 32.50°N 35.50°E
Sea of Galilee, Israel [−214 m (−702 ft)] 32.80°N 35.60°E
Tiberias, Israel [−207 m (−679 ft)] 32.7966°N 35.535717°E


Whole Israel is bellow the sea level


You are damn right.

Everything around the Dead Sea is going down.