Albanian AncestryDNA results and Gedmatch

[WillyWonka]

MorleyDNA predictor:

J2a1d

(J2-M319)





Europe South
66%
Greece, Turkey & Albania

Europe East
28%

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Caucasus
4%
Asia Central
<1%
European Jewish
<1%



The person has a bunch of Greek matches. Bellow, you can check his Gedmatch.


MDLP K23b

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 35.54
2 European_Hunters_Gatherers 23.27
3 European_Early_Farmers 21.84
4 Near_East 7.36
5 South_Central_Asian 4.2
6 North_African 2.75
7 Ancestral_Altaic 2.27
8 Australoid 0.82
9 Arctic 0.63
10 South_East_Asian 0.52
11 Melano_Polynesian 0.48
12 South_Indian 0.17
13 Amerindian 0.14

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek_Northwest ( ) 3.94
2 Bulgarian ( ) 4.07
3 Macedonian ( ) 4.46
4 Greek_Peloponnesos ( ) 4.82
5 Ashkenazi_Jew ( ) 5.3
6 Montenegrian ( ) 5.31
7 Kosovar ( ) 5.58
8 Greek_Thessaly ( ) 5.68
9 Greek_Thessaloniki ( ) 5.93
10 Sicilian_West ( ) 6.35
11 Albanian_Tirana ( ) 6.49
12 Sicilian_Siracusa ( ) 6.66
13 Serb_Serbia ( ) 7.22
14 Sicilian_Trapani ( ) 7.51
15 Ashkenazi ( ) 7.73
16 Sicilian_Agrigento ( ) 7.73
17 Maltese ( ) 8.19
18 Serb_BH ( ) 8.2
19 Croat ( ) 8.38
20 Central_Greek ( ) 8.63

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 71.9% Greek_Macedonia ( ) + 28.1% Welsh ( ) @ 1.17
2 50% Greek_Islands ( ) + 50% Austrian ( ) @ 1.18
3 84.6% Greek_Peloponnesos ( ) + 15.4% Swede_Saami ( ) @ 1.21
4 71.8% Greek_Macedonia ( ) + 28.2% CEU ( ) @ 1.22
5 70.2% Greek_Macedonia ( ) + 29.8% English_Kent_GBR ( ) @ 1.3
6 70.4% Greek_Macedonia ( ) + 29.6% North_European ( ) @ 1.31
7 74.3% Greek ( ) + 25.7% Norwegian_West ( ) @ 1.32
8 72.1% Greek_Macedonia ( ) + 27.9% British ( ) @ 1.33
9 71.1% Greek ( ) + 28.9% Swede ( ) @ 1.34
10 72.2% Greek ( ) + 27.8% Norwegian_East ( ) @ 1.35
11 71.1% Greek_Macedonia ( ) + 28.9% English_Cornwall_GBR ( ) @ 1.37
12 77.7% Greek_Peloponnesos ( ) + 22.3% Austrian ( ) @ 1.38
13 74.9% Greek ( ) + 25.1% Icelandic ( ) @ 1.4
14 69% Greek_Macedonia ( ) + 31% English ( ) @ 1.42
15 85.2% Greek_Peloponnesos ( ) + 14.8% Dane ( ) @ 1.42
16 63.1% Greek ( ) + 36.9% German-Volga ( ) @ 1.43
17 74.4% Greek_Macedonia ( ) + 25.6% Orcadian ( ) @ 1.43
18 62.4% Greek_Macedonia ( ) + 37.6% South_German ( ) @ 1.43
19 67% Greek_Macedonia ( ) + 33% Belgian ( ) @ 1.45
20 86.2% Greek_Peloponnesos ( ) + 13.8% Finn_West ( ) @ 1.46


Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 Oracle results:


# Population Percent
1 East_Med 22.95
2 West_Med 16.68
3 Atlantic 15.45
4 Baltic 13.93
5 North_Sea 13.56
6 West_Asian 9.26
7 Eastern_Euro 3.98
8 Red_Sea 2.41
9 Southeast_Asian 1.52
10 Oceanian 0.26

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek_Thessaly 5.42
2 Greek 6.18
3 Bulgarian 8.47
4 Tuscan 8.92
5 Italian_Abruzzo 9.8
6 Central_Greek 9.96
7 West_Sicilian 10.4
8 Romanian 10.48
9 East_Sicilian 10.67
10 Ashkenazi 11.16
11 South_Italian 12.44
12 North_Italian 12.49
13 Serbian 13.57
14 Italian_Jewish 16.35
15 Algerian_Jewish 17.52
16 Sephardic_Jewish 17.6
17 Moldavian 18.82
18 Portuguese 19.14
19 Spanish_Galicia 19.49
20 Spanish_Extremadura 19.54

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 69.7% South_Italian + 30.3% Ukrainian @ 4.56
2 68.9% South_Italian + 31.1% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 4.64
3 88% Greek_Thessaly + 12% Spanish_Valencia @ 4.65
4 69.5% South_Italian + 30.5% South_Polish @ 4.67
5 62.8% South_Italian + 37.2% Hungarian @ 4.67
6 92.4% Greek_Thessaly + 7.6% French_Basque @ 4.68
7 74.4% South_Italian + 25.6% Estonian @ 4.7
8 71.5% South_Italian + 28.5% Polish @ 4.7
9 89.9% Greek_Thessaly + 10.1% Southwest_French @ 4.73
10 85.7% Greek + 14.3% West_German @ 4.73
11 88.9% Greek + 11.1% Swedish @ 4.73
12 74.9% South_Italian + 25.1% Lithuanian @ 4.74
13 90% Greek_Thessaly + 10% Spanish_Aragon @ 4.75
14 88.3% Greek_Thessaly + 11.7% Spanish_Andalucia @ 4.76
15 63.2% South_Italian + 36.8% Croatian @ 4.77
16 89.7% Greek + 10.3% West_Norwegian @ 4.77
17 88.6% Greek_Thessaly + 11.4% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 4.79
18 92.7% Greek_Thessaly + 7.3% La_Brana-1 @ 4.79
19 88.5% Greek_Thessaly + 11.5% Spanish_Cataluna @ 4.8
20 88.4% Greek_Thessaly + 11.6% Spanish_Murcia



Gedrosia K12 Oracle

1 Greek 7.7
2 Sicilian 12.5
3 Turks_Istanbul 20.28
4 Turks_Aydin 24.06
5 Turks_Balikesir 25.39
6 Turks_Adana 28.15
7 Turks_Kayseri 29.18
8 Kurds_N 29.36
9 Iraqi_Chaldeans 29.56
10 Kurds_C 29.71
11 Iraqi_Arab_Baghdad 30.39
12 Iraqi_Jew 30.62
13 Kurds_F 31.18
14 Kurds_E 32.24
15 Norwegian 32.28
16 Iraqi_Mandaeans 32.43
17 Armenian 33.22
18 Assyrian 34.2
19 Jordanian 34.88
20 Syrian 35.6

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 86.9% Sicilian + 13.1% BA_Sintashta @ 2.6
2 86.9% Sicilian + 13.1% Corded_Ware_LN @ 2.6
3 77.1% Sicilian + 22.9% Russian @ 3.46
4 79.2% Sicilian + 20.8% Finnish @ 4.03
5 80.4% Sicilian + 19.6% Lithuanian @ 4.09
6 80% Sicilian + 20% Estonian @ 4.14
7 93.1% Greek + 6.9% BA_Sintashta @ 4.87
8 93.1% Greek + 6.9% Corded_Ware_LN @ 4.87
9 87.5% Greek + 12.5% Russian @ 5.08
10 73.7% Sicilian + 26.3% Norwegian @ 5.22
11 88.8% Greek + 11.2% Finnish @ 5.24
12 89.4% Greek + 10.6% Estonian @ 5.31
13 89.7% Greek + 10.3% Lithuanian @ 5.34
14 86.3% Greek + 13.7% Norwegian @ 5.82
15 90.4% Greek + 9.6% Tajik_Pomiri @ 6.52
16 93.3% Greek + 6.7% Punjabi_Sikh @ 6.62
17 91.2% Greek + 8.8% Turkmen_Afghan @ 6.85
18 95.5% Greek + 4.5% Balochi @ 6.91
19 95.9% Greek + 4.1% Brahui @ 6.91
20 95.5% Greek + 4.5% Makrani @ 6.93





Dodecad K12b

Population Percent
1 Caucasus 29.9
2 Atlantic_Med 28.91
3 North_European 26.26
4 Southwest_Asian 8.39
5 Gedrosia 4.82
6 Southeast_Asian 0.73
7 East_Asian 0.63
8 Siberian 0.36

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 O_Italian (Dodecad) 6.46
2 Greek (Dodecad) 9.03
3 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 9.57
4 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 9.68
5 Romanians (Behar) 10.43
6 C_Italian (Dodecad) 10.51
7 Tuscan (HGDP) 10.98
8 TSI30 (Metspalu) 11.36
9 N_Italian (Dodecad) 13.62
10 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 15.28
11 Sicilian (Dodecad) 15.36
12 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 16.11
13 North_Italian (HGDP) 16.14
14 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 16.27
15 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 22.11
16 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 23.84
17 Hungarians (Behar) 24.29
18 Baleares (1000Genomes) 24.46
19 Galicia (1000Genomes) 25.34
20 Extremadura (1000Genomes) 26.09

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 81.3% Greek (Dodecad) + 18.7% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 1.49
2 81.3% Greek (Dodecad) + 18.7% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 1.6
3 75.9% Greek (Dodecad) + 24.1% German (Dodecad) @ 1.62
4 77.9% Greek (Dodecad) + 22.1% Dutch (Dodecad) @ 1.92
5 76.9% Greek (Dodecad) + 23.1% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) @ 1.94
6 60.4% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 39.6% Bulgarian (Dodecad) @ 2.11
7 61.5% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 38.5% Hungarians (Behar) @ 2.18
8 52.5% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 47.5% C_Italian (Dodecad) @ 2.2
9 80.4% Greek (Dodecad) + 19.6% Orkney (1000Genomes) @ 2.21
10 80% Greek (Dodecad) + 20% Argyll (1000Genomes) @ 2.25
11 50.2% Romanians (Behar) + 49.8% C_Italian (Dodecad) @ 2.26
12 78.9% Greek (Dodecad) + 21.1% CEU30 (1000Genomes) @ 2.31
13 78.9% Greek (Dodecad) + 21.1% English (Dodecad) @ 2.34
14 80.4% Greek (Dodecad) + 19.6% Orcadian (HGDP) @ 2.35
15 61% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 39% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) @ 2.38
16 79.6% Greek (Dodecad) + 20.4% British_Isles (Dodecad) @ 2.4
17 80.3% Greek (Dodecad) + 19.7% Irish (Dodecad) @ 2.43
18 78.7% Greek (Dodecad) + 21.3% Kent (1000Genomes) @ 2.44
19 53.7% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 46.3% Tuscan (HGDP) @ 2.56
20 79.8% Greek (Dodecad) + 20.2% British (Dodecad) @ 2.67




eurogenes k13

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 26.25
2 North_Atlantic 22.12
3 West_Med 20.59
4 Baltic 17.21
5 West_Asian 9.26
6 Red_Sea 2.13
7 East_Asian 1.71
8 Oceanian 0.38
9 Amerindian 0.23
10 Siberian 0.12

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek_Thessaly 4.47
2 Bulgarian 8.79
3 Tuscan 8.82
4 Italian_Abruzzo 9.61
5 West_Sicilian 9.73
6 Central_Greek 10.14
7 Romanian 10.53
8 East_Sicilian 11.08
9 Ashkenazi 12.11
10 North_Italian 12.31
11 South_Italian 13.59
12 Serbian 14.2
13 Italian_Jewish 18.23
14 Algerian_Jewish 18.58
15 Sephardic_Jewish 18.88
16 Portuguese 20.04
17 Spanish_Extremadura 20.6
18 Moldavian 20.67
19 Spanish_Galicia 21.19
20 Spanish_Murcia 21.43

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 53% Bulgarian + 47% West_Sicilian @ 3.41
2 64.4% Romanian + 35.6% Italian_Jewish @ 3.6
3 56.5% Serbian + 43.5% Italian_Jewish @ 3.61
4 89.3% Greek_Thessaly + 10.7% Spanish_Valencia @ 3.66
5 89.4% Greek_Thessaly + 10.6% Spanish_Cataluna @ 3.66
6 78.9% West_Sicilian + 21.1% Southwest_Russian @ 3.71
7 89.6% Greek_Thessaly + 10.4% Spanish_Murcia @ 3.73
8 92.9% Greek_Thessaly + 7.1% Southeast_English @ 3.75
9 82.9% Greek_Thessaly + 17.1% North_Italian @ 3.75
10 90.1% Greek_Thessaly + 9.9% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 3.76
11 77.3% West_Sicilian + 22.7% Ukrainian @ 3.77
12 69.2% Bulgarian + 30.8% Italian_Jewish @ 3.77
13 90.3% Greek_Thessaly + 9.7% French @ 3.77
14 89.2% Greek_Thessaly + 10.8% Portuguese @ 3.78
15 80.3% West_Sicilian + 19.7% Belorussian @ 3.79
16 80.1% West_Sicilian + 19.9% Estonian_Polish @ 3.8
17 82.1% West_Sicilian + 17.9% Lithuanian @ 3.81
18 91.4% Greek_Thessaly + 8.6% West_German @ 3.82
19 91.8% Greek_Thessaly + 8.2% South_Dutch @ 3.82
20 91.7% Greek_Thessaly + 8.3% Spanish_Aragon @ 3.82

[WillyWonka]

bump

[Coolguy1]

He belongs to the same haplogroup as me, wow.

[Kaspias]

28% Eastern europe, interesting.

[Coolguy1]

Where is he from? I’d like to see his gedmatch kit number please.

[WillyWonka]

He belongs to the same haplogroup as me, wow.

What's your ethnic background? I've searched J2a-M319, but I didn't find that much info about it...

[WillyWonka]

28% Eastern europe, interesting.

It's kind of too much for an Albanian, though?

[Kaspias]

It's kind of too much for an Albanian, though?

I think so. I would expect between 0 and 10.

[WillyWonka]

Where is he from? I’d like to see his gedmatch kit number please.

Southern Albania

[TheMaestro]

It's kind of too much for an Albanian, though?

Yes it is, most of them get 0% Eastern Europe.

[Coolguy1]

What's your ethnic background? I've searched J2a-M319, but I didn't find that much info about it...

Southern Greece, Lakonia. It is rare in mainland Greece and only common in Crete. It is the main haplo of the Minoans. Where did you find this result? Could I have the kit number?

[WillyWonka]

Southern Greece, Lakonia. It is rare in mainland Greece and only common in Crete. It is the main haplo of the Minoans. Where did you find this result? Could I have the kit number?

Those are my friend's results. We share a lot of common matches, even if we don't match to each other on AncestryDNA and I assume it's because my maternal grandpa. He's from central Greece, and I think he's Arvanite origin. I'm gonna ask for his permission to share his kit number.

[Coolguy1]

Those are my friend's results. We share a lot of common matches, even if we don't match to each other on AncestryDNA and I assume it's because my maternal grandpa. He's from central Greece, and I think he's Arvanite origin. I'm gonna ask for his permission to share his kit number.

I though you said he’s from southern Albania?

Nvm I read that wrong.

[WillyWonka]

I though you said he’s from southern Albania?

Nvm I read that wrong.

My friend is from southern Albania and my maternal grandpa from central Greece. Me and my Albanian friend share common matches on Ancestry because I assume my maternal grandpa has Arvanite origins.

[Coolguy1]

My friend is from southern Albania and my maternal grandpa from central Greece. Me and my Albanian friend share common matches on Ancestry because I assume my maternal grandpa has Arvanite origins.

Do you know where particularly from southern Albania?

[WillyWonka]

Do you know where particularly from southern Albania?

Πρεμετή/Përmet paternal side. I'll know soon about his maternal side.

[RenaRyuguu]

MorleyDNA predictor:

J2a1d

(J2-M319)





Europe South
66%
Greece, Turkey & Albania

Europe East
28%

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Caucasus
4%
Asia Central
<1%
European Jewish
<1%



The person has a bunch of Greek matches. Bellow, you can check his Gedmatch.


MDLP K23b

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 35.54
2 European_Hunters_Gatherers 23.27
3 European_Early_Farmers 21.84
4 Near_East 7.36
5 South_Central_Asian 4.2
6 North_African 2.75
7 Ancestral_Altaic 2.27
8 Australoid 0.82
9 Arctic 0.63
10 South_East_Asian 0.52
11 Melano_Polynesian 0.48
12 South_Indian 0.17
13 Amerindian 0.14

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek_Northwest ( ) 3.94
2 Bulgarian ( ) 4.07
3 Macedonian ( ) 4.46
4 Greek_Peloponnesos ( ) 4.82
5 Ashkenazi_Jew ( ) 5.3
6 Montenegrian ( ) 5.31
7 Kosovar ( ) 5.58
8 Greek_Thessaly ( ) 5.68
9 Greek_Thessaloniki ( ) 5.93
10 Sicilian_West ( ) 6.35
11 Albanian_Tirana ( ) 6.49
12 Sicilian_Siracusa ( ) 6.66
13 Serb_Serbia ( ) 7.22
14 Sicilian_Trapani ( ) 7.51
15 Ashkenazi ( ) 7.73
16 Sicilian_Agrigento ( ) 7.73
17 Maltese ( ) 8.19
18 Serb_BH ( ) 8.2
19 Croat ( ) 8.38
20 Central_Greek ( ) 8.63

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 71.9% Greek_Macedonia ( ) + 28.1% Welsh ( ) @ 1.17
2 50% Greek_Islands ( ) + 50% Austrian ( ) @ 1.18
3 84.6% Greek_Peloponnesos ( ) + 15.4% Swede_Saami ( ) @ 1.21
4 71.8% Greek_Macedonia ( ) + 28.2% CEU ( ) @ 1.22
5 70.2% Greek_Macedonia ( ) + 29.8% English_Kent_GBR ( ) @ 1.3
6 70.4% Greek_Macedonia ( ) + 29.6% North_European ( ) @ 1.31
7 74.3% Greek ( ) + 25.7% Norwegian_West ( ) @ 1.32
8 72.1% Greek_Macedonia ( ) + 27.9% British ( ) @ 1.33
9 71.1% Greek ( ) + 28.9% Swede ( ) @ 1.34
10 72.2% Greek ( ) + 27.8% Norwegian_East ( ) @ 1.35
11 71.1% Greek_Macedonia ( ) + 28.9% English_Cornwall_GBR ( ) @ 1.37
12 77.7% Greek_Peloponnesos ( ) + 22.3% Austrian ( ) @ 1.38
13 74.9% Greek ( ) + 25.1% Icelandic ( ) @ 1.4
14 69% Greek_Macedonia ( ) + 31% English ( ) @ 1.42
15 85.2% Greek_Peloponnesos ( ) + 14.8% Dane ( ) @ 1.42
16 63.1% Greek ( ) + 36.9% German-Volga ( ) @ 1.43
17 74.4% Greek_Macedonia ( ) + 25.6% Orcadian ( ) @ 1.43
18 62.4% Greek_Macedonia ( ) + 37.6% South_German ( ) @ 1.43
19 67% Greek_Macedonia ( ) + 33% Belgian ( ) @ 1.45
20 86.2% Greek_Peloponnesos ( ) + 13.8% Finn_West ( ) @ 1.46


Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 Oracle results:


# Population Percent
1 East_Med 22.95
2 West_Med 16.68
3 Atlantic 15.45
4 Baltic 13.93
5 North_Sea 13.56
6 West_Asian 9.26
7 Eastern_Euro 3.98
8 Red_Sea 2.41
9 Southeast_Asian 1.52
10 Oceanian 0.26

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek_Thessaly 5.42
2 Greek 6.18
3 Bulgarian 8.47
4 Tuscan 8.92
5 Italian_Abruzzo 9.8
6 Central_Greek 9.96
7 West_Sicilian 10.4
8 Romanian 10.48
9 East_Sicilian 10.67
10 Ashkenazi 11.16
11 South_Italian 12.44
12 North_Italian 12.49
13 Serbian 13.57
14 Italian_Jewish 16.35
15 Algerian_Jewish 17.52
16 Sephardic_Jewish 17.6
17 Moldavian 18.82
18 Portuguese 19.14
19 Spanish_Galicia 19.49
20 Spanish_Extremadura 19.54

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 69.7% South_Italian + 30.3% Ukrainian @ 4.56
2 68.9% South_Italian + 31.1% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 4.64
3 88% Greek_Thessaly + 12% Spanish_Valencia @ 4.65
4 69.5% South_Italian + 30.5% South_Polish @ 4.67
5 62.8% South_Italian + 37.2% Hungarian @ 4.67
6 92.4% Greek_Thessaly + 7.6% French_Basque @ 4.68
7 74.4% South_Italian + 25.6% Estonian @ 4.7
8 71.5% South_Italian + 28.5% Polish @ 4.7
9 89.9% Greek_Thessaly + 10.1% Southwest_French @ 4.73
10 85.7% Greek + 14.3% West_German @ 4.73
11 88.9% Greek + 11.1% Swedish @ 4.73
12 74.9% South_Italian + 25.1% Lithuanian @ 4.74
13 90% Greek_Thessaly + 10% Spanish_Aragon @ 4.75
14 88.3% Greek_Thessaly + 11.7% Spanish_Andalucia @ 4.76
15 63.2% South_Italian + 36.8% Croatian @ 4.77
16 89.7% Greek + 10.3% West_Norwegian @ 4.77
17 88.6% Greek_Thessaly + 11.4% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 4.79
18 92.7% Greek_Thessaly + 7.3% La_Brana-1 @ 4.79
19 88.5% Greek_Thessaly + 11.5% Spanish_Cataluna @ 4.8
20 88.4% Greek_Thessaly + 11.6% Spanish_Murcia



Gedrosia K12 Oracle

1 Greek 7.7
2 Sicilian 12.5
3 Turks_Istanbul 20.28
4 Turks_Aydin 24.06
5 Turks_Balikesir 25.39
6 Turks_Adana 28.15
7 Turks_Kayseri 29.18
8 Kurds_N 29.36
9 Iraqi_Chaldeans 29.56
10 Kurds_C 29.71
11 Iraqi_Arab_Baghdad 30.39
12 Iraqi_Jew 30.62
13 Kurds_F 31.18
14 Kurds_E 32.24
15 Norwegian 32.28
16 Iraqi_Mandaeans 32.43
17 Armenian 33.22
18 Assyrian 34.2
19 Jordanian 34.88
20 Syrian 35.6

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 86.9% Sicilian + 13.1% BA_Sintashta @ 2.6
2 86.9% Sicilian + 13.1% Corded_Ware_LN @ 2.6
3 77.1% Sicilian + 22.9% Russian @ 3.46
4 79.2% Sicilian + 20.8% Finnish @ 4.03
5 80.4% Sicilian + 19.6% Lithuanian @ 4.09
6 80% Sicilian + 20% Estonian @ 4.14
7 93.1% Greek + 6.9% BA_Sintashta @ 4.87
8 93.1% Greek + 6.9% Corded_Ware_LN @ 4.87
9 87.5% Greek + 12.5% Russian @ 5.08
10 73.7% Sicilian + 26.3% Norwegian @ 5.22
11 88.8% Greek + 11.2% Finnish @ 5.24
12 89.4% Greek + 10.6% Estonian @ 5.31
13 89.7% Greek + 10.3% Lithuanian @ 5.34
14 86.3% Greek + 13.7% Norwegian @ 5.82
15 90.4% Greek + 9.6% Tajik_Pomiri @ 6.52
16 93.3% Greek + 6.7% Punjabi_Sikh @ 6.62
17 91.2% Greek + 8.8% Turkmen_Afghan @ 6.85
18 95.5% Greek + 4.5% Balochi @ 6.91
19 95.9% Greek + 4.1% Brahui @ 6.91
20 95.5% Greek + 4.5% Makrani @ 6.93





Dodecad K12b

Population Percent
1 Caucasus 29.9
2 Atlantic_Med 28.91
3 North_European 26.26
4 Southwest_Asian 8.39
5 Gedrosia 4.82
6 Southeast_Asian 0.73
7 East_Asian 0.63
8 Siberian 0.36

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 O_Italian (Dodecad) 6.46
2 Greek (Dodecad) 9.03
3 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 9.57
4 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 9.68
5 Romanians (Behar) 10.43
6 C_Italian (Dodecad) 10.51
7 Tuscan (HGDP) 10.98
8 TSI30 (Metspalu) 11.36
9 N_Italian (Dodecad) 13.62
10 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 15.28
11 Sicilian (Dodecad) 15.36
12 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 16.11
13 North_Italian (HGDP) 16.14
14 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 16.27
15 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 22.11
16 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 23.84
17 Hungarians (Behar) 24.29
18 Baleares (1000Genomes) 24.46
19 Galicia (1000Genomes) 25.34
20 Extremadura (1000Genomes) 26.09

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 81.3% Greek (Dodecad) + 18.7% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 1.49
2 81.3% Greek (Dodecad) + 18.7% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 1.6
3 75.9% Greek (Dodecad) + 24.1% German (Dodecad) @ 1.62
4 77.9% Greek (Dodecad) + 22.1% Dutch (Dodecad) @ 1.92
5 76.9% Greek (Dodecad) + 23.1% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) @ 1.94
6 60.4% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 39.6% Bulgarian (Dodecad) @ 2.11
7 61.5% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 38.5% Hungarians (Behar) @ 2.18
8 52.5% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 47.5% C_Italian (Dodecad) @ 2.2
9 80.4% Greek (Dodecad) + 19.6% Orkney (1000Genomes) @ 2.21
10 80% Greek (Dodecad) + 20% Argyll (1000Genomes) @ 2.25
11 50.2% Romanians (Behar) + 49.8% C_Italian (Dodecad) @ 2.26
12 78.9% Greek (Dodecad) + 21.1% CEU30 (1000Genomes) @ 2.31
13 78.9% Greek (Dodecad) + 21.1% English (Dodecad) @ 2.34
14 80.4% Greek (Dodecad) + 19.6% Orcadian (HGDP) @ 2.35
15 61% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 39% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) @ 2.38
16 79.6% Greek (Dodecad) + 20.4% British_Isles (Dodecad) @ 2.4
17 80.3% Greek (Dodecad) + 19.7% Irish (Dodecad) @ 2.43
18 78.7% Greek (Dodecad) + 21.3% Kent (1000Genomes) @ 2.44
19 53.7% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 46.3% Tuscan (HGDP) @ 2.56
20 79.8% Greek (Dodecad) + 20.2% British (Dodecad) @ 2.67




eurogenes k13

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 26.25
2 North_Atlantic 22.12
3 West_Med 20.59
4 Baltic 17.21
5 West_Asian 9.26
6 Red_Sea 2.13
7 East_Asian 1.71
8 Oceanian 0.38
9 Amerindian 0.23
10 Siberian 0.12

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek_Thessaly 4.47
2 Bulgarian 8.79
3 Tuscan 8.82
4 Italian_Abruzzo 9.61
5 West_Sicilian 9.73
6 Central_Greek 10.14
7 Romanian 10.53
8 East_Sicilian 11.08
9 Ashkenazi 12.11
10 North_Italian 12.31
11 South_Italian 13.59
12 Serbian 14.2
13 Italian_Jewish 18.23
14 Algerian_Jewish 18.58
15 Sephardic_Jewish 18.88
16 Portuguese 20.04
17 Spanish_Extremadura 20.6
18 Moldavian 20.67
19 Spanish_Galicia 21.19
20 Spanish_Murcia 21.43

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 53% Bulgarian + 47% West_Sicilian @ 3.41
2 64.4% Romanian + 35.6% Italian_Jewish @ 3.6
3 56.5% Serbian + 43.5% Italian_Jewish @ 3.61
4 89.3% Greek_Thessaly + 10.7% Spanish_Valencia @ 3.66
5 89.4% Greek_Thessaly + 10.6% Spanish_Cataluna @ 3.66
6 78.9% West_Sicilian + 21.1% Southwest_Russian @ 3.71
7 89.6% Greek_Thessaly + 10.4% Spanish_Murcia @ 3.73
8 92.9% Greek_Thessaly + 7.1% Southeast_English @ 3.75
9 82.9% Greek_Thessaly + 17.1% North_Italian @ 3.75
10 90.1% Greek_Thessaly + 9.9% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 3.76
11 77.3% West_Sicilian + 22.7% Ukrainian @ 3.77
12 69.2% Bulgarian + 30.8% Italian_Jewish @ 3.77
13 90.3% Greek_Thessaly + 9.7% French @ 3.77
14 89.2% Greek_Thessaly + 10.8% Portuguese @ 3.78
15 80.3% West_Sicilian + 19.7% Belorussian @ 3.79
16 80.1% West_Sicilian + 19.9% Estonian_Polish @ 3.8
17 82.1% West_Sicilian + 17.9% Lithuanian @ 3.81
18 91.4% Greek_Thessaly + 8.6% West_German @ 3.82
19 91.8% Greek_Thessaly + 8.2% South_Dutch @ 3.82
20 91.7% Greek_Thessaly + 8.3% Spanish_Aragon @ 3.82

Ancient Anatolia

[safinator]

Πρεμετή/Përmet paternal side. I'll know soon about his maternal side.

So can you tell us his mother's side origins?

[WillyWonka]

So can you tell us his mother's side origins?

Actually, his mother is from Permeti and his dad from Kilarisht!

[xripkan]

Actually, his mother is from Permeti and his dad from Kilarisht!

Could you post his updated results from AncestryDNA?

[WillyWonka]

Could you post his updated results from AncestryDNA?

Greece n' Balkans 89 per. and Eastern Europe 11 per.

[xripkan]

Greece n' Balkans 89 per. and Eastern Europe 11 per.

More consistent with his gedmatch results. I think AncestryDNA has been improved after the last update.

[WillyWonka]

More consistent with his gedmatch results. I think AncestryDNA has been improved after the last update.

Some people are satisfied, some not. I m still expecting AncestryDNA to improve and break down more its ethnicities like 23andme. The latter breaks it down more and it's more specific than Ancestry. What about your results? Tell me about your background.

[xripkan]

Some people are satisfied, some not. I m still expecting AncestryDNA to improve and break down more its ethnicities like 23andme. The latter breaks it down more and it's more specific than Ancestry. What about your results? Tell me about your background.

I am Greek, 3/4 from Peloponnese and rest from Thessaly. I have 23andme results

74% Greek and Balkan (I score only Greek regions)
10.6% Italian (Apulian)
5.3% Broadly Southern European
9.4% West Asian (Anatolian, Iranian/Messopotamian/Caucasian and Cypriot I score 1-2% for each category)
0.2% Central Asia
0.5% Unassigned

As you can see23andme has also some problems. Apulian is not real ancestry but just genetic similarity. It is a proxy for Paleo-Balkan ancestry. I have noticed that most Southern Mainlanders score some Apulian while Islanders score high Sicilian.

My gedmatch results (Converted to V3)
K13
Population Percent
1 East_Med 26.77
2 West_Med 20.79
3 North_Atlantic 17.67
4 Baltic 15.8
5 West_Asian 13.11
6 Red_Sea 3.69
7 Siberian 0.72
8 Oceanian 0.71
9 South_Asian 0.45
10 East_Asian 0.3

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek_Thessaly 2.49
2 Central_Greek 5.89
3 East_Sicilian 7.34
4 Italian_Abruzzo 7.78
5 West_Sicilian 8.69
6 Ashkenazi 9.59
7 South_Italian 10.27
8 Bulgarian 10.47
9 Tuscan 10.93
10 Romanian 12.85
11 North_Italian 15.72
12 Algerian_Jewish 15.78
13 Italian_Jewish 15.91
14 Sephardic_Jewish 16.07
15 Serbian 17.13
16 Tunisian_Jewish 19.65
17 Libyan_Jewish 20.15
18 Cyprian 21.16
19 Turkish 22.64
20 Moldavian 22.76

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 91.6% Greek_Thessaly + 8.4% Cyprian @ 1.59
2 94.1% Greek_Thessaly + 5.9% Lebanese_Christian @ 1.73
3 94.2% Greek_Thessaly + 5.8% Assyrian @ 1.73
4 75.9% Greek_Thessaly + 24.1% Central_Greek @ 1.74
5 64.7% Central_Greek + 35.3% Bulgarian @ 1.76
6 94.5% Greek_Thessaly + 5.5% Georgian_Jewish @ 1.76
7 87.3% Central_Greek + 12.7% Estonian_Polish @ 1.77
8 94.6% Greek_Thessaly + 5.4% Kurdish_Jewish @ 1.78
9 94.6% Greek_Thessaly + 5.4% Armenian @ 1.79
10 94.2% Greek_Thessaly + 5.8% Lebanese_Druze @ 1.79
11 93.3% Greek_Thessaly + 6.7% Lebanese_Muslim @ 1.8
12 85.6% Central_Greek + 14.4% Ukrainian @ 1.81
13 94.2% Greek_Thessaly + 5.8% Samaritan @ 1.82
14 94.7% Greek_Thessaly + 5.3% Iranian_Jewish @ 1.84
15 88.7% Central_Greek + 11.3% Lithuanian @ 1.85
16 86.6% Central_Greek + 13.4% Southwest_Russian @ 1.85
17 87.5% Central_Greek + 12.5% Belorussian @ 1.86
18 93.4% Greek_Thessaly + 6.6% Turkish @ 1.92
19 87.3% Central_Greek + 12.7% Russian_Smolensk @ 1.95
20 94.1% Greek_Thessaly + 5.9% Syrian @ 1.95

My G25 results

Target: christos
Distance: 3.4011% / 0.03401103
56.6 Anatolia_Barcin_N
32.8 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
4.6 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
4.2 Levant_PPNB
1.2 Han
0.6 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA3

[WillyWonka]

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[WillyWonka]

I am Greek, 3/4 from Peloponnese and rest from Thessaly. I have 23andme results

74% Greek and Balkan (I score only Greek regions)
10.6% Italian (Apulian)
5.3% Broadly Southern European
9.4% West Asian (Anatolian, Iranian/Messopotamian/Caucasian and Cypriot I score 1-2% for each category)
0.2% Central Asia
0.5% Unassigned

As you can see23andme has also some problems. Apulian is not real ancestry but just genetic similarity. It is a proxy for Paleo-Balkan ancestry. I have noticed that most Southern Mainlanders score some Apulian while Islanders score high Sicilian.

My gedmatch results (Converted to V3)
K13
Population Percent
1 East_Med 26.77
2 West_Med 20.79
3 North_Atlantic 17.67
4 Baltic 15.8
5 West_Asian 13.11
6 Red_Sea 3.69
7 Siberian 0.72
8 Oceanian 0.71
9 South_Asian 0.45
10 East_Asian 0.3

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek_Thessaly 2.49
2 Central_Greek 5.89
3 East_Sicilian 7.34
4 Italian_Abruzzo 7.78
5 West_Sicilian 8.69
6 Ashkenazi 9.59
7 South_Italian 10.27
8 Bulgarian 10.47
9 Tuscan 10.93
10 Romanian 12.85
11 North_Italian 15.72
12 Algerian_Jewish 15.78
13 Italian_Jewish 15.91
14 Sephardic_Jewish 16.07
15 Serbian 17.13
16 Tunisian_Jewish 19.65
17 Libyan_Jewish 20.15
18 Cyprian 21.16
19 Turkish 22.64
20 Moldavian 22.76

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 91.6% Greek_Thessaly + 8.4% Cyprian @ 1.59
2 94.1% Greek_Thessaly + 5.9% Lebanese_Christian @ 1.73
3 94.2% Greek_Thessaly + 5.8% Assyrian @ 1.73
4 75.9% Greek_Thessaly + 24.1% Central_Greek @ 1.74
5 64.7% Central_Greek + 35.3% Bulgarian @ 1.76
6 94.5% Greek_Thessaly + 5.5% Georgian_Jewish @ 1.76
7 87.3% Central_Greek + 12.7% Estonian_Polish @ 1.77
8 94.6% Greek_Thessaly + 5.4% Kurdish_Jewish @ 1.78
9 94.6% Greek_Thessaly + 5.4% Armenian @ 1.79
10 94.2% Greek_Thessaly + 5.8% Lebanese_Druze @ 1.79
11 93.3% Greek_Thessaly + 6.7% Lebanese_Muslim @ 1.8
12 85.6% Central_Greek + 14.4% Ukrainian @ 1.81
13 94.2% Greek_Thessaly + 5.8% Samaritan @ 1.82
14 94.7% Greek_Thessaly + 5.3% Iranian_Jewish @ 1.84
15 88.7% Central_Greek + 11.3% Lithuanian @ 1.85
16 86.6% Central_Greek + 13.4% Southwest_Russian @ 1.85
17 87.5% Central_Greek + 12.5% Belorussian @ 1.86
18 93.4% Greek_Thessaly + 6.6% Turkish @ 1.92
19 87.3% Central_Greek + 12.7% Russian_Smolensk @ 1.95
20 94.1% Greek_Thessaly + 5.9% Syrian @ 1.95

My G25 results

Target: christos
Distance: 3.4011% / 0.03401103
56.6 Anatolia_Barcin_N
32.8 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
4.6 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
4.2 Levant_PPNB
1.2 Han
0.6 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA3

On 23andme I score Italy 7% and my 1st region is Sicily, 2nd Abruzzo and 3rd Apulia. Worth noting that I've not any relation with the islands, but I'm a mainlander.

[xripkan]

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Can you post your Eurogenes K13 and K15? How much West Asian do you score at 23andme?

[safinator]

Could you post his updated results from AncestryDNA?

You sure you wrote it right?

Google gives me no result.

[WillyWonka]

Can you post your Eurogenes K13 and K15? How much West Asian do you score at 23andme?

Since the sale of Gedmatch for forensic purposes, I chose not to provide my raw data, so I don't have access anymore. I score 4.6. Out of this 0.4 is Iranian etc and the rest broadly Nor. West Asia.