Braveheart - I2c

[Dick]

It’s possible that William Wallace was I2c judging from the Wallace group at fdtna.This is rare. Could it be fro M celts?



[most I2c people alive today share a common patrilinear ancestor in the last 10,000 years. I2c could have originatedin Central Europe

[Jackson78]

Yeah, he most probably belonged to I2c. There are also some other famous Wallaces I2c, like these two:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elvis_Presley

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_A._A._Wallace

[Bosniensis]

Amazing.

My theory was always that I2 is Celtic.

2000 B.C. apparently all France, Spain and Britain was I2 (various subclades)

[Dick]

Amazing.

My theory was always that I2 is Celtic.

2000 B.C. apparently all France, Spain and Britain was I2 (various subclades)

#MakeI2celto-illyrianagain


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Celtic_tribes_of_Illyria

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

My bet is that he was R1b-L21.

[Pribislav]

Amazing.

My theory was always that I2 is Celtic.

2000 B.C. apparently all France, Spain and Britain was I2 (various subclades)

Clan Wallace = Vlachs. :)

[Bosniensis]

Clan Wallace = Vlachs. :)

Varciani = prezime Varićak

xD


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[Dick]

Clan Wallace = Vlachs. :)


Vlachs worshipped horned animals like the Hindo-Europeans hence the god Veles/Vlachs


Celtic version of Veles: Cernunos. Both Veles and Cernunnos became Satan in christianity


https://i1.wp.com/upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bc/Cernunnos.jpg

[Pribislav]

Varciani = prezime Varićak

xD


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https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/45/Volcae_Arecomisci_and_Tectosages_%28migrations%29. svg
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commonsd/d7/Wallachia_Mircea_the_Elder.png
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9a/Linguistic_map_of_Wallonia.png
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/09/SheperdByzempire1265.jpg
http://www.freeworldmaps.net/europe/united-kingdom/wales/wales-physical-map.jpg
http://static.newworldenyclopedia.org/5/50/JudeteWallachia.png
http://www.farsarotul.org/images/NL26_5F.jpg
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/34/Mihai_1600.png

Do you see similarities?

[Dick]

Walloonians and Welsh are Celto-Vlachs

[Pribislav]

Vlachs worshipped horned animals like the Hindo-Europeans hence the god Veles/Vlachs


Celtic version of Veles: Cernunos. Both Veles and Cernunnos became Satan in christianity


https://i1.wp.com/upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bc/Cernunnos.jpg

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veles_(god)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3AxvQlWkN4&t=9s

[GreentheViper]

Freedom.

[tipirneni]

The ancient Kangju Celtic like people in Central Asia shows strong Celtic (R1b) , German (I) , Baltic, Caucasus, Indian & Slavic influence

Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Tabassaran +50% West_Norwegian @ 16.253195


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% North_Swedish +25% Orcadian +25% Tabassaran @ 10.886559


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 North_Swedish + Orcadian + Tabassaran + West_Norwegian @ 10.619828
2 North_Swedish + Tabassaran + West_Norwegian + West_Norwegian @ 10.710039
3 Tabassaran + West_Norwegian + West_Norwegian + West_Norwegian @ 10.799469
4 North_Swedish + Norwegian + Orcadian + Tabassaran @ 10.844185
5 North_Swedish + Orcadian + Orcadian + Tabassaran @ 10.864993
6 Orcadian + Tabassaran + West_Norwegian + West_Norwegian @ 10.871899
7 Norwegian + Tabassaran + West_Norwegian + West_Norwegian @ 10.873715
8 Danish + Tabassaran + West_Norwegian + West_Norwegian @ 10.885016
9 North_Swedish + North_Swedish + Orcadian + Tabassaran @ 10.886559
10 Danish + North_Swedish + Tabassaran + West_Norwegian @ 10.907677
11 North_Swedish + Norwegian + Tabassaran + West_Norwegian @ 10.927035
12 North_Swedish + Tabassaran + West_Norwegian + West_Scottish @ 10.938675
13 Norwegian + Orcadian + Tabassaran + West_Norwegian @ 10.940564
14 Norwegian + Norwegian + Tabassaran + West_Norwegian @ 11.004442
15 Danish + Norwegian + Tabassaran + West_Norwegian @ 11.032894
16 Danish + North_Swedish + Orcadian + Tabassaran @ 11.043543
17 Norwegian + Norwegian + Orcadian + Tabassaran @ 11.066937
18 Tabassaran + West_Norwegian + West_Norwegian + West_Scottish @ 11.073636
19 North_Swedish + North_Swedish + Tabassaran + West_Norwegian @ 11.125616
20 North_Swedish + Orcadian + Swedish + Tabassaran @ 11.148820

puntDNAL K10

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Russian +50% Lezgin @ 6.440704


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Estonian +25% Lezgin +25% Balochi @ 4.192358


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++
1 Estonian + Russian + Lezgin + Balochi @ 4.083481
2 Estonian + Russian + Lezgin + Brahui @ 4.145736
3 Estonian + Russian + Lezgin + Makrani @ 4.166212
4 Estonian + Estonian + Lezgin + Balochi @ 4.192358
5 Lithuanian + Russian + Lezgin + Balochi @ 4.256630
6 Estonian + Estonian + Lezgin + Makrani @ 4.328006
7 Lithuanian + Russian + Lezgin + Brahui @ 4.336975
8 Estonian + Mordovian + Lezgin + Kalash @ 4.339760
9 Lithuanian + Estonian + Lezgin + Balochi @ 4.357459
10 Estonian + Mordovian + Lezgin + Brahui @ 4.358938
11 Belarusian + Mordovian + Lezgin + Kalash @ 4.397996
12 Estonian + Finnish + Lezgin + Makrani @ 4.417548
13 Estonian + Mordovian + Lezgin + Balochi @ 4.432607
14 Estonian + Finnish + Lezgin + Balochi @ 4.439775
15 Lithuanian + Russian + Lezgin + Makrani @ 4.453593
16 Lithuanian + Mordovian + Lezgin + Kalash @ 4.467580
17 Lithuanian + Finnish + Lezgin + Balochi @ 4.469924
18 Lithuanian + Mordovian + Lezgin + Pashtun @ 4.476644
19 Lithuanian + Mordovian + Lezgin + Brahui @ 4.495626
20 Estonian + Estonian + Lezgin + Brahui @ 4.495670

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Norwegian_Dodecad +50% Tajiks_Yunusbayev @ 8.172159


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Argyll_1000Genomes +25% Balochi_HGDP +25% Chuvashs_Behar @ 3.478112


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++
1 Argyll_1000Genomes + Balochi_HGDP + Chuvashs_Behar + Norwegian_Dodecad @ 2.787309
2 Brahui_HGDP + CEU30_1000Genomes + Chuvashs_Behar + Norwegian_Dodecad @ 2.806025
3 Brahui_HGDP + Chuvashs_Behar + English_Dodecad + Norwegian_Dodecad @ 2.835134
4 Balochi_HGDP + Chuvashs_Behar + Norwegian_Dodecad + Orcadian_HGDP @ 2.880459
5 Brahui_HGDP + Chuvashs_Behar + Kent_1000Genomes + Norwegian_Dodecad @ 2.881712
6 Balochi_HGDP + Chuvashs_Behar + Irish_Dodecad + Norwegian_Dodecad @ 2.883987

[Ayetooey]

No wonder he was so badass, he was I2.

[Ülev]

Walloonians and Welsh are Celto-Vlachs

yes

[gıulıoımpa]

Clan Wallace = Vlachs. :)

could derive from it...somewhat similar

Vlach-----Vallaches----Wallace.

it has to be said that many germanic tribes did not differentiate between celts and other populations like romans. (in fact in some places Vlach is also applied to italics , think about the modern Polish name for italians, Wlochy)

[Vojnik]

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commonsd/d7/Wallachia_Mircea_the_Elder.png

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/09/SheperdByzempire1265.jpg
http://www.freeworldmaps.net/europe/united-kingdom/wales/wales-physical-map.jpg
http://static.newworldenyclopedia.org/5/50/JudeteWallachia.png



Do you see similarities?


Ahhhhh Snowdonia - Macedonia. :icon_ask:xD