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Bosniensis
08-12-2018, 04:29 PM
23andMe has revised it's Ancestry Autosomal Results by incorporating African, East Asian samples.

My Ancient Balkan component fell down from 84% to 67% while Slavic went up to 24%

Post yours:

https://i.imgur.com/fAejkJm.png

Dukagjini
08-12-2018, 04:30 PM
when are they releasing new chip v6? should be somewhere in near future..

Bosniensis
08-12-2018, 04:31 PM
when are they releasing new chip v6? should be somewhere in near future..

Mine was done on V5, haven't heard anything about V6. have you?

Congolese Rice
08-12-2018, 04:32 PM
loooool... even 23andMe rolls out updates quicker than ancestry does.


shouldve never bought their test XD waste of money and time, only thing it was good for is it's raw DNA which helped me figure out that my ancestry results were biased XD

Dukagjini
08-12-2018, 04:35 PM
Mine was done on V5, haven't heard anything about V6. have you?

no i haven't but usually gets updated later on, and v5's been out for some time now. I hope they update balkan section. I think it's shit that you have to use an admix calculator to see what that balkan actually is.

Norb
08-12-2018, 04:39 PM
Not for me

Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas
08-12-2018, 04:49 PM
Mine are exactly the same. I do not understand how the inclusion of African and East Asian samples can have such an impact on your results Bosniesis. They didn't include samples from Europe as well?

Sikeliot
08-12-2018, 04:56 PM
African regions have been added too. Mine did not update but my grandmother's small African is now assigned to Senegambia and a TINY bit of Kenya/Tanzania area.

Bosniensis
08-12-2018, 04:56 PM
Mine are exactly the same. I do not understand how the inclusion of African and East Asian samples can have such an impact on your results Bosniesis. They didn't include samples from Europe as well?

It is (my opinion) that R1a people are Indo-Iranians, and inclusion of East Asian component basically strengthened Slavic (Scythian) identification.

Since we are Paleo Balkan + Slavic mix it automatically increased my Slavic % (Polish in my case) .

Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas
08-12-2018, 05:14 PM
It is (my opinion) that R1a people are Indo-Iranians, and inclusion of East Asian component basically strengthened Slavic (Scythian) identification.

Since we are Paleo Balkan + Slavic mix it automatically increased my Slavic % (Polish in my case) .

I can not make much sense out of what you are saying, for that to happen early-Slavs would have to be quite similar genetically to early-East Asians.

To determine your ancestral breakdown they use an algorithm that individually looks at short pieces of DNA across your genome, then they compare each piece to DNA sequences from ancestral reference populations from around the world. They already had African and East Asian samples, they simple added a few more.

How can you have such a drastic shift on your results if they didn't add European samples is what is mind-boggling me.

Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas
08-12-2018, 05:16 PM
African regions have been added too. Mine did not update but my grandmother's small African is now assigned to Senegambia and a TINY bit of Kenya/Tanzania area.

How much African does she score?

Freeroostah
08-12-2018, 05:17 PM
I still have same results

Thracian
08-12-2018, 05:36 PM
I don't have any update.

What about your dots? Are they same?

Bosniensis
08-12-2018, 05:39 PM
I don't have any update.

What about your dots? Are they same?

These are new:

Old ones are in signiture


https://i.imgur.com/rK3CNoi.png

Gründig
08-12-2018, 05:40 PM
I'm still waiting for the update.

Hadouken
08-12-2018, 05:52 PM
mine is still this

http://up.picr.de/32333024vy.jpg

http://up.picr.de/32332993hx.jpg

Moje ime
08-12-2018, 06:06 PM
These are new:

Old ones are in signiture



You lost one Albanian dot.

Dick
08-12-2018, 06:12 PM
You lost one Albanian dot.

His IQ went up a point

Bosniensis
08-12-2018, 06:14 PM
His IQ went up a point

:lmao:lmao:lmao

Moje ime
08-12-2018, 06:14 PM
His IQ went up a point

We'll see.

happycow
08-12-2018, 09:08 PM
Mine hasn't updated. But they did update my paternal Haplogroup to a more specific subclade.

G2a2b2a1a1c3a2-Z6032, Sardinians, French, Sephardim, Ashkenazim and Araite jews, Christian Arabs from Syria and Lebanon, Berbers, Mende people from Sierra Leone, Ossetians, and a Han Chinese from Manchuria.

oszkar07
08-12-2018, 09:13 PM
loooool... even 23andMe rolls out updates quicker than ancestry does.


shouldve never bought their test XD waste of money and time, only thing it was good for is it's raw DNA which helped me figure out that my ancestry results were biased XD

what the fuck is "XD" bro ?

Dick
08-12-2018, 09:21 PM
what the fuck is "XD" bro ?

xD this

Gründig
08-12-2018, 09:25 PM
xD this

XD

Lehel
08-13-2018, 05:42 AM
It's shit, I'm not 100% European anymore! They moved my Finnish to East Asian. My balkan lowered, they added Italian, and my Eastern European went up by 20%.
We wuz hunz
https://i.imgur.com/59nuWAI.png

Bosniensis
08-13-2018, 05:55 AM
It's shit, I'm not 100% European anymore! They moved my Finnish to East Asian. My balkan lowered, they added Italian, and my Eastern European went up by 20%.
We wuz hunz
https://i.imgur.com/59nuWAI.png

It's better than Balkan, with 67% Balkan you don't know who you are xD

oszkar07
08-13-2018, 08:00 AM
23andme looks kinda crap, I think I will choose ancestry for my next DNA test.

Longbowman
08-13-2018, 08:16 AM
My girlfriend is half Chinese and she had zero change.

Bobby Martnen
08-13-2018, 08:37 AM
mine is still this

http://up.picr.de/32333024vy.jpg

http://up.picr.de/32332993hx.jpg

Why does it call you Turkish when you're a Kurd?

Hadouken
08-13-2018, 08:39 AM
Why does it call you Turkish when you're a Kurd?

because I am from Turkey

Bobby Martnen
08-13-2018, 08:40 AM
because I am from Turkey

But you are still a Kurd, not a Turkeyman, right?

arkas
08-13-2018, 08:40 AM
Wow, they updated my paternal haplogroup!! I am now I-Z17855. This is a subgroup within I-M438 I think.

Seems my paternal ancestors were definately slavic invaders, oh well.

No changes in my ethnicity estimates though...

Hadouken
08-13-2018, 08:43 AM
But you are still a Kurd, not a Turkeyman, right?

why do you ask ? if I was a turk you would suddenly dislike me ?

Bobby Martnen
08-13-2018, 08:44 AM
why do you ask ? if I was a turk you would suddenly dislike me ?

I'm just curious...I don't hate all Turkeymen, but I don't like what they did to Greeks, Armenians, Assyrians, and Kurds during WWI.

Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas
08-13-2018, 08:45 AM
To those of you who have gotten your results updated: did you receive any e-mail informing you that your results were updated?

Turul Karom
08-13-2018, 08:46 AM
23andme looks kinda crap, I think I will choose ancestry for my next DNA test.

I am not a fan of 23&me at all; I have never used it myself. I recommend trying FTDNA, uploading to GEDmatch and seeing how it differs from your current kit.

Iloko
08-13-2018, 09:07 AM
Mine hasn't updated yet. I'm on V4/V3s

arkas
08-13-2018, 09:32 AM
To those of you who have gotten your results updated: did you receive any e-mail informing you that your results were updated?

Not for my haplogroup update, but I have gotten emails from them in the past.

Longbowman
08-13-2018, 10:47 AM
I am not a fan of 23&me at all; I have never used it myself. I recommend trying FTDNA, uploading to GEDmatch and seeing how it differs from your current kit.

Not a fan, but never used it?

I use both and many others, 23andme is the best.

Vojnik
08-13-2018, 10:55 AM
Mine have not changed.

Jana
08-13-2018, 11:30 AM
23andme is terrible for southern slavs because we are part of reference cathegory which we shouldnt be because we are ancient population mix, so people can not learn anything useful about their ancestry.

Bosniensis
08-13-2018, 11:34 AM
23andme is terrible for southern slavs because we are part of reference cathegory which we shouldnt be because we are ancient population mix, so people can not learn anything useful about their ancestry.

It's getting better, I had 84% Balkan now 67%. They have started dividing Slavic component form Balkan.

FTDNA is the best for South Slavs.

oszkar07
08-13-2018, 12:12 PM
I am not a fan of 23&me at all; I have never used it myself. I recommend trying FTDNA, uploading to GEDmatch and seeing how it differs from your current kit.

I tested with FTDNA , I have run my raw data from them through Gedmatch and every other free calc along with some commercial ones like Geneplaza.
I think FTDNA are ok but not necessarily the best and their Haplogroup mods are annoying always trying push you into doing more paid tests.
Maybe 23and me is ok too but seems to be very changable from chip to chip and accuracy seems questionable.
At the moment ancestry seem to have quite good population samples for autosomal dna testing.

Vojnik
08-13-2018, 12:20 PM
23andme is terrible for southern slavs because we are part of reference cathegory which we shouldnt be because we are ancient population mix, so people can not learn anything useful about their ancestry.

Is that another way of saying we get too much Balkan and not enough East Euro?

Turul Karom
08-13-2018, 12:21 PM
Not a fan, but never used it?

I use both and many others, 23andme is the best.

Not a fan based on the results I hear from users in contrast to other services. The reason I said I don't use it was to qualify that I haven't had firsthand experience. It would be important from a review perspective if all someone cares about is firsthand experiences in the case if they asked for mine or my results. Given that this is our DNA and not as simple as tasting a new food, I like to know sentiments on paid services.

Likewise is true for positive experiences. What is your experience and why do you feel like it is the best you have used?

Turul Karom
08-13-2018, 12:37 PM
I tested with FTDNA , I have run my raw data from them through Gedmatch and every other free calc along with some commercial ones like Geneplaza.
I think FTDNA are ok but not necessarily the best and their Haplogroup mods are annoying always trying push you into doing more paid tests.
Maybe 23and me is ok too but seems to be very changable from chip to chip and accuracy seems questionable.
At the moment ancestry seem to have quite good population samples for autosomal dna testing.

Ah, I might have forgotten that you did FTDNA but was also talking to the thread in general. I think so little in the long run about individual company tests in lieu of gedmatch regardless. I guess I just like to know what I'm spending money on is worth it.

Longbowman
08-13-2018, 12:38 PM
23andme is by far the most accurate and gives you a lot more bang for your buck considering the non-ancestry composition/haplogroup results you can get. All other companies (and I've done nearly all) give me at least one bizarre result. Ftdna completely ignored my Iraqi ancestry. Same with ancestry and they also decided I could be 14% Iberian when this is impossible. MyHeritage was a little more accurate with my data. However if you upload fata from other sites it gives you bizarre results like 10% welsh for me. 23andme gets more and more specific as the years go by but it is not specific for some regions hence perhaps the dissatisfaction. There are also people who get results they don't like and try to discredit the company to keep the dream of Cherokee ancestry alive...

Kamal900
08-13-2018, 12:41 PM
23andme is by far the most accurate and gives you a lot more bang for your buck considering the non-ancestry composition/haplogroup results you can get. All other companies (and I've done nearly all) give me at least one bizarre result. Ftdna completely ignored my Iraqi ancestry. Same with ancestry and they also decided I could be 14% Iberian when this is impossible. MyHeritage was a little more accurate with my data. However if you upload fata from other sites it gives you bizarre results like 10% welsh for me. 23andme gets more and more specific as the years go by but it is not specific for some regions hence perhaps the dissatisfaction. There are also people who get results they don't like and try to discredit the company to keep the dream of Cherokee ancestry alive...

I wish they can send their kits here, but they don't offer such services which is really unfortunate.

Dandelion
08-13-2018, 12:49 PM
Only my Y-DNA got updated from R-L21 to R-CTS241. It stems from R-M269.

Interesting. I guess it's a more modern classification.

Mortimer
08-13-2018, 11:42 PM
No changes for me.

Jana
08-14-2018, 05:50 AM
Is that another way of saying we get too much Balkan and not enough East Euro?

Yes, exactly.

Ofcourse we will get mostly Balkan when Balkan reference samples are based on us.
Even I who cluster with Hungarians and Austrians get high Balkan here, unlike on any other algorithm.

While Slovene or Hungarian who is really similar to me will get mostly East European because They are part of their reference group.

In my opinion Balkan should include only Greeks and Albanians, and East European only Belarusians and Ukrainians because other groups are more mixed.

Vojnik
08-14-2018, 06:08 AM
Yes, exactly.

Ofcourse we will get mostly Balkan when Balkan reference samples are based on us.
Even I who cluster with Hungarians and Austrians get high Balkan here, unlike on any other algorithm.

While Slovene or Hungarian who is really similar to me will get mostly East European because They are part of their reference group.

In my opinion Balkan should include only Greeks and Albanians, and East European only Belarusians and Ukrainians because other groups are more mixed.

I see what you mean. If A Greek is a reference for Balkan and A Slovene another reference for Balkan, Then you have something wrong.

Gründig
08-20-2018, 06:26 PM
My update came today. Whats up my niggers, im now .1% black. More French/German and Scandinavian. Less southern european and a little more broadly european.

original:

https://i.imgur.com/2voS5kd.png?1


Updated:

https://i.imgur.com/lKFsyak.png?1
https://i.imgur.com/k5plhc5.png?1

Congolese Rice
08-20-2018, 06:42 PM
My update came today. Whats up my niggers, im now .1% black. More French/German and Scandinavian. Less southern european and a little more broadly european.

original:

https://i.imgur.com/2voS5kd.png?1


Updated:

https://i.imgur.com/lKFsyak.png?1
https://i.imgur.com/k5plhc5.png?1



https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTp3-fmTTd-e-eoHFMb4CNnem0zId-RLe21QBB5zzMfbVLjge82


goddammit, this nigga is more nigga than me

Leto
08-20-2018, 06:57 PM
My update came today. Whats up my niggers, im now .1% black. More French/German and Scandinavian. Less southern european and a little more broadly european.

The Juice at the company added that to your results. :lol:

Gründig
08-20-2018, 07:00 PM
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTp3-fmTTd-e-eoHFMb4CNnem0zId-RLe21QBB5zzMfbVLjge82


goddammit, this nigga is more nigga than me

lol its noise. it dissapears at the 60% confidence level.

Gründig
08-20-2018, 07:03 PM
The Juice at the company added that to your results. :lol:

dude, i associate with that .1%......not cool.

Longbowman
08-20-2018, 08:20 PM
Appropriately, Gruendig is posting his results at the back of the thread.

Ayarezki
08-20-2018, 08:36 PM
Nothing to me, same (V5) results :(

Gründig
08-20-2018, 08:38 PM
Nothing to me, same (V5) results :(

Are You sure you recieved it?

Ayarezki
08-20-2018, 08:48 PM
Are You sure you recieved it?

Unfortunaly i recieved nothing new, and my results are still the same.

Kelmendasi
08-22-2018, 04:56 PM
https://s22.postimg.cc/edxjxviwh/39_EFDB9_A-7_E05-4_DC5-_B030-4_E0972_C0_D257.jpg

RN97
08-22-2018, 05:02 PM
https://s22.postimg.cc/edxjxviwh/39_EFDB9_A-7_E05-4_DC5-_B030-4_E0972_C0_D257.jpg

100% balkan..... 5 dots for Croatia :rofl_002::rofl_002:

Kelmendasi
08-22-2018, 05:06 PM
100% balkan..... 5 dots for Croatia :rofl_002::rofl_002:
Surely I should get more dots for Serbia rather than Croatia but idk:shrug:

Longbowman
08-22-2018, 09:20 PM
https://s22.postimg.cc/edxjxviwh/39_EFDB9_A-7_E05-4_DC5-_B030-4_E0972_C0_D257.jpg

Congratulations, you have achieved the same level of purity as my dad.

http://i64.tinypic.com/2mc68g8.jpg

happycow
08-22-2018, 10:40 PM
They updated mine. Of course they had to throw in .1% SSA. Lol

https://i.imgur.com/o1F4mZb.jpg

Gründig
08-22-2018, 10:41 PM
They updated mine. Of course they had to throw in .1% SSA. Lol

https://i.imgur.com/o1F4mZb.jpg

I've seen them throw in that .1% on ALOT of updated results.

happycow
08-22-2018, 10:45 PM
I've seen them throw in that .1% on ALOT of updated results.

We're KANGZ brah

Dragoon
08-22-2018, 10:56 PM
The melt downs in this topic with the 0.1% or 1% new results. Hilarious.

Gründig
08-22-2018, 10:57 PM
We're KANGZ brah

WE WUZ

de Burgh II
08-23-2018, 12:34 AM
Everything is essentially the same, but dots line up to known ancestry overall.

Norb
08-23-2018, 06:42 AM
my chip version is 4 so no update for me

Bobby Martnen
08-23-2018, 07:16 AM
23andme?

I'm pretty sure that there are some people on this forum with an extra chromosome...

Longbowman
08-23-2018, 08:11 AM
The melt downs in this topic with the 0.1% or 1% new results. Hilarious.

Chimping out proves 23andme right :rolleyes:

Apologies. I'll flagellate myself now.

Gangrel
08-23-2018, 06:50 PM
????????????????????????????/

What the fuck????????????

https://i.imgur.com/epMMyHV.png

https://i.imgur.com/l6UQR1P.png

https://i.imgur.com/Uuwo6fU.png

Gründig
08-23-2018, 06:58 PM
????????????????????????????/

What the fuck????????????

https://i.imgur.com/epMMyHV.png

https://i.imgur.com/l6UQR1P.png

https://i.imgur.com/Uuwo6fU.png

Not accurate?

Arborean
08-23-2018, 07:03 PM
my chip version is 4 so no update for me

Will V4s not receive any more updates?

Gangrel
08-23-2018, 07:07 PM
Not accurate?

Not at all

Babak
08-23-2018, 07:07 PM
????????????????????????????/

What the fuck????????????

https://i.imgur.com/epMMyHV.png

https://i.imgur.com/l6UQR1P.png

https://i.imgur.com/Uuwo6fU.png

Whats wrong bro? Euro too high or what?

MsSPF
08-23-2018, 11:00 PM
Nothing changed for me!

https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2018/34/5/1535065176-capture.png

Hadouken
08-23-2018, 11:01 PM
^ why does it say morocco ? you are algerian no ?

MsSPF
08-23-2018, 11:07 PM
^ why does it say morocco ? you are algerian no ?

I don't think they have lots of Algerian samples, Morocco is supposed to mean Maghreb/NorthWest Africa I guess ? To be honest, I have no idea which samples they are using for that
but in most of the tests, I share the most important genetical affinities with "Riffians" (from Morocco) and NorthWestern Algerians, which makes sense because I am from Tlemcen in NorthWestern Algeria, very close to Morocco and especially the Rif region ;-)

Argentano
08-23-2018, 11:19 PM
Something interesting i saw today is that most of my latino connections have their native american correctly identified as "argentine" "chilean" "brazilian" "paraguayan". Pretty cool IMO

Gangrel
08-24-2018, 03:54 AM
Whats wrong bro? Euro too high or what?

I got one dot on Albania and most of my mongoloid is apparently native American lmao

Longbowman
08-24-2018, 10:39 AM
Mine hasn't updated - but my mum's has. So has my dad's but it's still 100% Ashkenazi. My mum now gets slightly more Ashkenazi and Iberian (which is impressively 0.8% for every confidence level), some Italian, and less MENA, even though it was already underrepresented in her genome. Western Sephardic DNA seems to be mostly subsumed by the Ashkenazi grouping. Currently she scores over 15% more than she is which is unlikely to be due to random inheritance models.

Update:



Both my parents have more Ashkenazi than I do now :rolleyes:

No change to the dots.

New:

http://i64.tinypic.com/11tpe2v.gif

Old:

http://i67.tinypic.com/15qqgkp.jpg

Jana
08-24-2018, 11:26 AM
100% balkan..... 5 dots for Croatia :rofl_002::rofl_002:

Lol, you seem obsessed :laugh:

Bosniensis
08-24-2018, 11:31 AM
Lol, you seem obsessed :laugh:

I wish I have 4 on Croatia :D 5 is too much

Weiss
08-24-2018, 11:32 AM
https://preview.ibb.co/hZNNoU/FF829_A53_F6_B1_4_ABD_864_F_F8288_AB186_BC.jpg

Kelmendasi
08-24-2018, 11:35 AM
????????????????????????????/

What the fuck????????????

https://i.imgur.com/epMMyHV.png

https://i.imgur.com/l6UQR1P.png

https://i.imgur.com/Uuwo6fU.png
Arnaut :noidea:

Jana
08-24-2018, 11:36 AM
I wish I have 4 on Croatia :D 5 is too much

I don't think these stars mean much.
It show me Slovakia, and I have no recent ancestry from Slovakia that I know of.

Kelmendasi
08-24-2018, 11:38 AM
I don't think these stars mean much.
It show me Slovakia, and I have no recent ancestry from Slovakia that I know of.
Agreed, I have no known ancestry from Croatia but yet I still get 5 dots for some reason

Jana
08-24-2018, 11:41 AM
Agreed, I have no known ancestry from Croatia but yet I still get 5 dots for some reason

Shared (Illyrian) DNA, I think :)

I get Albania as well, three Dots, actually I get strong Match with all countries in Balkan cluster except with Moldova and Greece.

Bosniensis
08-24-2018, 11:42 AM
Agreed, I have no known ancestry from Croatia but yet I still get 5 dots for some reason

Well there is a reason why we match with those countries, probably our ancestors mixed, we are neighbors after all.

Bosniensis
08-24-2018, 11:43 AM
Shared (Illyrian) DNA, I think :)

I get Alnania as well, three Dots, actually I get strong Match with all countries in Balkan cluster except with Moldova and Greece.

That's a lot, my 23andMe changes Albania from 3 to 4 dots every couple of weeks, (they update their results regularly according to new tested people)

We are Slavo-Balkanites xD

Kelmendasi
08-24-2018, 11:45 AM
Well there is a reason why we match with those countries, probably our ancestors mixed, we are neighbors after all.
Me having ancestors from Croatia is unlikely imo going by geographical distance with Albania, having some ancestors from Montenegro or Serbia would make more sense. But who knows.

Bosniensis
08-24-2018, 11:46 AM
Me having ancestors from Croatia is unlikely imo going by geographical distance with Albania, having some ancestors from Montenegro or Serbia would make more sense. But who knows.

There are a lot of Albanians on Balkans, more than you imagine. They are now Serbs, Bosniaks, Croats.. but they are there.

Jana
08-24-2018, 11:48 AM
That's a lot, my 23andMe changes Albania from 3 to 4 dots every couple of weeks, (they update their results regularly according to new tested people)

We are Slavo-Balkanites xD

Yes, ofcourse we are genetically speaking.

Jana
08-24-2018, 11:50 AM
Me having ancestors from Croatia is unlikely imo going by geographical distance with Albania, having some ancestors from Montenegro or Serbia would make more sense. But who knows.

It could be that some of Croatian samples in their reference Set have Albanian blood from Arbanasi, who assimilated to Croats, and that is how you Match so strongly. Just a guess.

Kelmendasi
08-24-2018, 11:53 AM
It could be that some of Croatian samples in their reference Set have Albanian blood from Arbanasi, who assimilated to Croats, and that is how you Match so strongly. Just a guess.
That's a possibility

RN97
08-24-2018, 12:17 PM
Lol, you seem obsessed :laugh:

I'm obsessed with'chu bbyguurl

Longbowman
08-24-2018, 02:46 PM
(On speculative)

My dad: no change.

My mum:
Broadly West Asian & North African +1.0%
Ashkenazi +0.8%
European +0.8%
Italian +0.5%
Broadly Southern European +0.4%
Iberian +0.2%
Unassigned -0.3%
North African & Arabian -0.5%
West Asian & North African -0.6%
Broadly European -0.7%
West Asian -1.1%

Kamal900
08-24-2018, 03:02 PM
Mine hasn't updated - but my mum's has. So has my dad's but it's still 100% Ashkenazi. My mum now gets slightly more Ashkenazi and Iberian (which is impressively 0.8% for every confidence level), some Italian, and less MENA, even though it was already underrepresented in her genome. Western Sephardic DNA seems to be mostly subsumed by the Ashkenazi grouping. Currently she scores over 15% more than she is which is unlikely to be due to random inheritance models.

Update:



Both my parents have more Ashkenazi than I do now :rolleyes:

No change to the dots.

New:

http://i64.tinypic.com/11tpe2v.gif

Old:

http://i67.tinypic.com/15qqgkp.jpg

You're dad's an uber Jew, lol.
https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-b35448fcea4944159c7c0dfc44a79ede

Gangrel
08-24-2018, 05:19 PM
Arnaut :noidea:

We wus ghegs and shiet

someonenotyou
08-24-2018, 06:52 PM
Old:
https://i.imgur.com/0GRXOQn.png

New:
https://i.imgur.com/oFq0hVm.png?1

Not sure why Italian went up as much as it did.

At 90%
https://i.imgur.com/1sCx8oO.png

IncelSlayer
08-25-2018, 02:38 PM
https://image.ibb.co/hCu3DU/23.png

Ayarezki
10-23-2018, 05:09 AM
Old :

49,9 % Western Asian & North African
- 48,4 % North African & Arabian
- 0,1 % Western Asian
- 1,4 % Broadly Western Asian & North African

47,2 % European
- 23,3 % Iberian
- 16,7 % Italian
- 6,7 % Broadly Southern European
- 0,5 % Broadly European

1,2 % Sub-Saharan African
- 0,4 % East African
- 0,2 % African Hunter Gatherer
- 0,1 % West African
- 0,4 % Broadly Sub-Saharan African

1,8 % Unassigned




New :

57,6 % Western Asian & North African
- 56,4 % North African & Arabian
- 1.2 % Broadly Western Asian & North African

39,8 % European
- 31,9 % iberian
- 3,8 % Italian
- 1,1 % Sardinian
- 3 % Broadly Southern European
- 0,1 % Broadly European

1,1 % Sub-Saharan African
- 0,1 % Senegambian & Guinean
- 0,1 % Nigerian
- 0,3 % Broadly West African
- 0,3 % Broadly Northern East African
- 0,3 % Broadly Sub-Saharan African

1,4 % Unassigned




It's more accurate to me, even if the European part seems still to high (im full berber algerian kabyle).

Hadouken
10-23-2018, 05:17 AM
Old :

49,9 % Western Asian & North African
- 48,4 % North African & Arabian
- 0,1 % Western Asian
- 1,4 % Broadly Western Asian & North African

47,2 % European
- 23,3 % Iberian
- 16,7 % Italian
- 6,7 % Broadly Southern European
- 0,5 % Broadly European

1,2 % Sub-Saharan African
- 0,4 % East African
- 0,2 % African Hunter Gatherer
- 0,1 % West African
- 0,4 % Broadly Sub-Saharan African

1,8 % Unassigned




New :

57,6 % Western Asian & North African
- 56,4 % North African & Arabian
- 1.2 % Broadly Western Asian & North African

39,8 % European
- 31,9 % iberian
- 3,8 % Italian
- 1,1 % Sardinian
- 3 % Broadly Southern European
- 0,1 % Broadly European

1,1 % Sub-Saharan African
- 0,1 % Senegambian & Guinean
- 0,1 % Nigerian
- 0,3 % Broadly West African
- 0,3 % Broadly Northern East African
- 0,3 % Broadly Sub-Saharan African

1,4 % Unassigned




It's more accurate to me, even if the European part seems still to high (im full berber algerian kabyle).

Nice results . Can I see your gedmatch results ?

Ayarezki
10-23-2018, 05:34 AM
81174
Nice results . Can I see your gedmatch results ?

Off course bro, and you can use my number if you want to see with others calculators.

Sp_loa
10-23-2018, 03:30 PM
81174

Off course bro, and you can use my number if you want to see with others calculators.

Super high Iberian- Higher than I score on K36.
What is your Gedmatch number? for the one that appears in the screenshot it says "no kit found"

Leto
10-23-2018, 07:35 PM
Super high Iberian- Higher than I score on K36.
What is your Gedmatch number? for the one that appears in the screenshot it says "no kit found"
That's a GM Genesis number

Eurogenes K13 Oracle results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Med 29.61
2 East_Med 24.62
3 Red_Sea 13.85
4 North_Atlantic 11.11
5 Northeast_African 9.53
6 Sub-Saharan 7.64
7 Baltic 2.51
8 East_Asian 0.6
9 Oceanian 0.31
10 Amerindian 0.22
11 Siberian 0.01

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Moroccan 6.68
2 Mozabite_Berber 7.88
3 Algerian 8.41
4 Tunisian 9.47
5 Algerian_Jewish 19.24
6 Libyan_Jewish 20.75
7 West_Sicilian 21.08
8 East_Sicilian 21.62
9 Tunisian_Jewish 21.91
10 Italian_Jewish 22.01
11 Sephardic_Jewish 22.31
12 South_Italian 22.46
13 Ashkenazi 22.71
14 Egyptian 23.55
15 Central_Greek 23.83
16 Tuscan 24.08
17 Italian_Abruzzo 24.77
18 Greek_Thessaly 25.22
19 Bedouin 27.17
20 North_Italian 27.22

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 81.9% Moroccan + 18.1% Sardinian @ 2.3
2 80.2% Mozabite_Berber + 19.8% Sardinian @ 3.72
3 78.9% Algerian + 21.1% Sardinian @ 3.73
4 84.5% Moroccan + 15.5% North_Italian @ 4.53
5 88.1% Moroccan + 11.9% Southwest_French @ 4.55
6 86.5% Moroccan + 13.5% Spanish_Andalucia @ 4.62
7 87.2% Moroccan + 12.8% Spanish_Valencia @ 4.67
8 87.8% Moroccan + 12.2% Spanish_Cantabria @ 4.7
9 88.2% Moroccan + 11.8% Spanish_Aragon @ 4.78
10 87.5% Moroccan + 12.5% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 4.79
11 83.6% Moroccan + 16.4% Tuscan @ 4.81
12 90.7% Moroccan + 9.3% French_Basque @ 4.85
13 86.7% Moroccan + 13.3% Spanish_Extremadura @ 4.86
14 88.1% Moroccan + 11.9% Spanish_Cataluna @ 4.88
15 87.2% Moroccan + 12.8% Spanish_Galicia @ 4.91
16 87.4% Moroccan + 12.6% Spanish_Murcia @ 4.94
17 87.1% Moroccan + 12.9% Portuguese @ 4.95
18 77.6% Tunisian + 22.4% Sardinian @ 4.96
19 87.8% Moroccan + 12.2% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 4.99
20 82.7% Moroccan + 17.3% West_Sicilian @ 5.13

Leto
10-23-2018, 07:38 PM
MDLP World Oracle results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 South_and_West_European 37.94
2 Middle_East 35.16
3 Sub_Saharian 16.92
4 North_and_East_European 5.34
5 Caucaus_Parsia 4.26
6 Paleo_African 0.2
7 Melanesian 0.15
8 North_Asian 0.02
9 Arctic_Amerind 0.01

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Mozabite 11.55
2 Moroccan 16.53
3 Jew_Morocco 18.08
4 Jew_Libya 18.89
5 Jew_Algeria 18.95
6 Jew_Tunisia 20.19
7 Jew_France 21.66
8 Sephardim 21.71
9 Jew_Italia 21.73
10 Ashkenazim 22.44
11 Sicilian 24.56
12 Egyptian 25.46
13 Jew_Romania 25.95
14 Jordanian 26.73
15 Greek_Cretan 27.32
16 Italian-South 27.46
17 Jew_Syria 27.5
18 Ashkenazim_V 27.68
19 Italian-Center 27.93
20 Puerto-Rican 28.13

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 74.1% Mozabite + 25.9% Italian-North @ 1.15
2 76.7% Mozabite + 23.3% Kosovar @ 1.65
3 74.3% Mozabite + 25.7% Corsican @ 1.75
4 71.1% Mozabite + 28.9% Italian-Center @ 2.17
5 72.1% Mozabite + 27.9% Greek_Center @ 2.31
6 70.8% Mozabite + 29.2% Italian-South @ 2.37
7 76.4% Mozabite + 23.6% Italian_North @ 2.39
8 72.2% Mozabite + 27.8% Greek_South @ 2.42
9 72.8% Mozabite + 27.2% Greek_North @ 2.43
10 71.6% Mozabite + 28.4% Greek_East @ 2.6
11 77.1% Mozabite + 22.9% Provancal @ 2.77
12 68.5% Mozabite + 31.5% Sicilian @ 2.78
13 76.9% Mozabite + 23.1% Romania @ 2.88
14 75% Mozabite + 25% Portugese @ 3.06
15 75.7% Mozabite + 24.3% Gagauz @ 3.07
16 76.3% Mozabite + 23.7% Bulgarian @ 3.09
17 71.2% Mozabite + 28.8% Ashkenazim_V @ 3.17
18 77.4% Mozabite + 22.6% Swiss @ 3.26
19 76.4% Mozabite + 23.6% Iberian @ 3.29
20 77.5% Mozabite + 22.5% Montenegrin @ 3.32

Impaler
10-23-2018, 07:41 PM
http://i.imgur.com/yHM14b5.png (https://imgur.com/yHM14b5)
http://i.imgur.com/CZPEGTJ.png (https://imgur.com/CZPEGTJ)

Ayetooey
10-23-2018, 07:48 PM
My Balkan went down slightly.

https://i.imgur.com/rzbkDrT.png

Dukagjini
10-23-2018, 07:52 PM
My Balkan went down slightly.

https://i.imgur.com/2qFO8LT.png

When was the last update, you received?

Ayetooey
10-23-2018, 07:55 PM
When was the last update, you received?

July 30, 2018 was when they updated African/Asian sections, that was when mine got updated and I lost a bit of Balkan, don't know why mine got changed as I am 100 percent Euro lol. It updated the nations it mentions like 2 days ago, it now says bih + croatia + 3 others under Balkan, it used to just say bih then i'd need to check scientific details for specific dots.

Dukagjini
10-23-2018, 07:59 PM
July 30, 2018 was when they updated African/Asian sections, that was when mine got updated and I lost a bit of Balkan, don't know why mine got changed as I am 100 percent Euro lol. It updated the nations it mentions like 2 days ago, it now says bih + croatia + 3 others under Balkan, it used to just say bih then i'd need to check scientific details for specific dots.

I ordered my kit around that time so I may have gotten the African nations update when my results were released, but ever since I didn't get any update, only the nations mentioned which updated 2 days ago like you said. 23andme sucks at distinguishing between south slavs and greeks/albanians. I think some slavic references are included in the balkan category and not added into eastern europe. Really hope they change this.

Ayetooey
10-23-2018, 08:02 PM
I ordered my kit around that time so I may have gotten the African nations update when my results were released, but ever since I didn't get any update, only the nations mentioned which updated 2 days ago like you said. 23andme sucks at distinguishing between south slavs and greeks/albanians. I think some slavic references are included in the balkan category and not added into eastern europe. Really hope they change this.

Yeah, I would like to know specifically how much paleo/indigenous-Balkan I am, compared to actual Slavic dna, lumping it all together means nothing. Hopefully with future chip versions they will do this.

Dukagjini
10-23-2018, 08:07 PM
Yeah, I would like to know specifically how much paleo/indigenous-Balkan I am, compared to actual Slavic dna, lumping it all together means nothing. Hopefully with future chip versions they will do this.

I heard it was like this before during the v3 chip, but idk how true this is.

Ayarezki
10-24-2018, 12:41 AM
Super high Iberian- Higher than I score on K36.
What is your Gedmatch number? for the one that appears in the screenshot it says "no kit found"

Yep Iberian score surprised me to. I heard GM is not accurate for us (North African). But may be I have some moorish andalou ancestors, i came from an area who received a lot of refugiees of them in the past (Bejaia). I don't know. You can use this number with GM genesis. It is from an FTDNA data raw, I will try again with the 23andme data raw, may be results will change.