How common are pseudo MENA phenotypes in Andean countries?

[Maguzanci]

Is it possible for Andid Mestizos to have pseudo North African looks?

[Chaos One]

No. Only triracials.

[Carlito's Way]

yes, it all depends on what type of north africans
there are many pseudo mestizo looking north africans, i saw it more on Algerians

[Kukushka]

No. Only triracials.

You look somewhat Nafri lol

[Cristiano viejo]

Latinos, Gypsies, MENAs, Turks etc can look the same many times.

[Chaos One]

You look somewhat Nafri lol

Normal, I'm 10% Berber. But I'm an exception.

[CryoLava201819]

when you start mixing the races together you end up getting north african/middle eastern appearances

amerindians: little to none
mestizos: common (depends on the type of amerindian and type of european)
triracials: more common (as long as the ssa is on the lower spectrum 10-30%)

[Maguzanci]

yes, it all depends on what type of north africans
there are many pseudo mestizo looking north africans, i saw it more on Algerians
Have you seen pseudo Indomestizo looks among North Africans?

What type of Amerindian do those pseudo Mestizo North Africans look like: Balanced Mestizo of Margid, Pacifid, Pueblid+Med or Berid?

[Carlito's Way]

when you start mixing the races together you end up getting north african/middle eastern appearances

amerindians: little to none
mestizos: common (depends on the type of amerindian and type of european)
triracials: more common (as long as the ssa is on the lower spectrum 10-30%)

north african and middle eastern should be even put together at all lol

triracials: create a higher pseudo north african phenotype, but a lower middle eastern one like levantine
mestizos: create a higher middle eastern phenotype but a lower north african one

why? this is all due to the SSA, middle easterners in general lack what north africans have in high number (the SSA)
though there are north africans with pseudo turanid features, those would be the only ones that would pass for mestizo, and mestizos passing for north african

[Carlito's Way]

Have you seen pseudo Indomestizo looks among North Africans?

What type of Amerindian do those pseudo Mestizo North Africans look like: Balanced Mestizo of Margid, Pacifid, Pueblid+Med or Berid?

Yeah I have seen them but they are not super common, but not the most rarest thing on earth, like that Moroccan rapper from Europe who looks like an indo-mestizo from Peru
they range but most common one was magrid, especially for the women

for example Moroccan/Algerian artist from Europe Sarah Riani looks mestiza, I would have guessed her Amerindian to be margid, she can easily pass in Mexico with no problem
https://i.imgur.com/mNkoROR.jpg

[Maguzanci]

when you start mixing the races together you end up getting north african/middle eastern appearances

amerindians: little to none
mestizos: common (depends on the type of amerindian and type of european)
triracials: more common (as long as the ssa is on the lower spectrum 10-30%)

What about Indomestizos?

What type of Amerindian and Euro produce the most pseudo MENA looks in your opinion? Can Andid/Andean+Med or Berid produce such phenotypes?

[Maguzanci]

Yeah I have seen them but they are not super common, but not the most rarest thing on earth, like that Moroccan rapper from Europe who looks like an indo-mestizo from Peru
they range but most common one was magrid, especially for the women

for example Moroccan/Algerian artist from Europe Sarah Riani looks mestiza, I would have guessed her Amerindian to be margid, she can easily pass in Mexico with no problem
https://i.imgur.com/mNkoROR.jpg
She looks more Balanced Mestiza than Euro right. Is Margid the most common among Pseudo Mestizo North Africans because Margids resemble SSA in their dark skin and other physical features?

Off topic, but would the predominantly majority of SE Asians be called "chino" in Mexico? Asking this because Sikeliot and few other users used to have this weird obsession with passing SE Asians like Malays, Flips, Viets, Cambodians, Thais, etc. for Southern Mexicans and Central Americans and I have to vehemently disagree as most will stand out.

[KuakoVoice]

She looks more Balanced Mestiza than Euro right. Is Margid the most common among Pseudo Mestizo North Africans because Margids resemble SSA in their dark skin and other physical features?

Off topic, but would the predominantly majority of SE Asians be called "chino" in Mexico? Asking this because Sikeliot and few other users used to have this weird obsession with passing SE Asians like Malays, Flips, Viets, Cambodians, etc. for Southern Mexicans and Central Americans and I have to vehemently disagree as most will stand out.

The real Austronesian and Melanesian Indonesians and Filipinos can pass.

[KuakoVoice]

Southeast Asians arent a monolith themselves,look at this Noam Chomsky video and compare Cambodians to Timorese,even they look markedly different in features and hairtype.Timorese actually look more Indian than they even do Cambodians:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=s8mP2jN6bJI&t=330s

Proof not ALL Southeast Asians are Mongoloid let alone the same.Eastern Indonesia and East Timor are clearly non Mongoloid "Southeast Asians" who even resemble Indians and Latin Americans more than say,Cambodians or Thai..

Speaking of which,on average Eastern Indonesians like Moluccans and East Timorese actually have the curliest hair on average in all of Asia,even more than South Asians actually on average.Afros are even abound in East Timor.

[Maguzanci]

The real Austronesian and Melanesian Indonesians and Filipinos can pass.

Agreed is the more Melanesian Eastern Indonesians and some of the purer Taiwanese Aboriginal Austronesian type of Flips that pass.

[KuakoVoice]

Agreed is the more Melanesian Eastern Indonesians and some of the purer Taiwanese Aboriginal Austronesian type of Flips that pass.

But things get even more strange-even the less Australoid Eastern Indonesians and Timorese look more Amerindian like than Asiatic Mongoloid.Perhaps its a different type of Mongoloid?Examples:

http://i65.tinypic.com/34y5zwn.png

http://i68.tinypic.com/25rmrz9.jpg

http://i67.tinypic.com/2zdn6gn.jpg

[Maguzanci]

Bump.

[CryoLava201819]

north african and middle eastern should be even put together at all lol
you're right middle east is too broad of a region with lots of racial groups (arabs, levantines, turks, kurds, persians etc.)


triracials: create a higher pseudo north african phenotype, but a lower middle eastern one like levantine
mestizos: create a higher middle eastern phenotype but a lower north african one

something like that

[CryoLava201819]

What about Indomestizos?

What type of Amerindian and Euro produce the most pseudo MENA looks in your opinion? Can Andid/Andean+Med or Berid produce such phenotypes?

there's two types of amerindians in Peru (according to me): Amazon Indians (mongoloid traits: thick lips, wide nose, droopy eyes) and then there is Highland Indians (caucasoid traits: thin lips, long noses, round eyes). And everything inbetween. Amazon types are concentrated mostly in the amazon region but it's not exclusive there as you can find those types in all parts of the country including the andes. Highlanders are concentrated mostly in the andes especially the southern part of Peru and just like amazon indians they're not exclusive to the andes and can be found all throughout the country even in the amazon rainforest.

indomestizos of the highland variety (cusco) tend to look like this. more of levantine or euro shifted gypsy phenotype.
https://i.imgur.com/Dz179RP.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/7Ha6Hdy.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/yd5Z7F8.jpg

if we're going off of these northern africans then i would say their phenotype is foreign here in Peru espcially among european/amerindian mixes. To get that phenotype you would definitely have to have african adxmiture of some form. basically triracial. not sure the ratios. maybe an amazon indian + gracile med mestizo :noidea:
https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-c43ac6c732167621fe2712fb16882b2b

i'm a novice when it comes to racial classification so take what i say with a grain of salt. :thumb001:

[Carlito's Way]

She looks more Balanced Mestiza than Euro right. Is Margid the most common among Pseudo Mestizo North Africans because Margids resemble SSA in their dark skin and other physical features?

im not sure, I think its the diluted SSA in North Africans or the pseudo Turanid that exists in Berbers, who knows whats causing them to look pseudo mestizo in some occasions
for example, there are Cape Verdeans with diluted SSA features that create these pseudo mestizo phenotypes

the one on the far left passes for a pred euro mestiza, they are all Cape Verdeans living in America
https://www.lusoamericano.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/IMG_1546.jpg


this is another cape verdean from america
she also looks pred euro mestiza, harniza
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C3kGM0ZWMAAvpPw.jpg:large



Off topic, but would the predominantly majority of SE Asians be called "chino" in Mexico? Asking this because Sikeliot and few other users used to have this weird obsession with passing SE Asians like Malays, Flips, Viets, Cambodians, Thais, etc. for Southern Mexicans and Central Americans and I have to vehemently disagree as most will stand out.

yeah majority of them would be called chinos, they were called chinos even in the colonial days when they were imported to Mexico as servants/slaves

[Smeagol]

Chinky eye look in North Africans is due to admixture of Capoids.

[Maguzanci]

im not sure, I think its the diluted SSA in North Africans or the pseudo Turanid that exists in Berbers, who knows whats causing them to look pseudo mestizo in some occasions
for example, there are Cape Verdeans with diluted SSA features that create these pseudo mestizo phenotypes

the one on the far left passes for a pred euro mestiza, they are all Cape Verdeans living in America
https://www.lusoamericano.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/IMG_1546.jpg


this is another cape verdean from america
she also looks pred euro mestiza, harniza
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C3kGM0ZWMAAvpPw.jpg:large

Pred Euro Mestiza as in Harniza for the first one? Would both Cape Verdeans also be consider Margid influenced? How common are pseudo Mestizo phenotypes among Caribbean Hispanics?




yeah majority of them would be called chinos, they were called chinos even in the colonial days when they were imported to Mexico as servants/slaves

Hmm does this means that like 99%+ of them can't pass/would stand out in Mexico thanks to their phenotypes right? Because from what I recalled that you once remarked, Mexican Amerindians look very unique and not Asiatic at all.

You would destroy the fantasy and wet dream of this Mexican wannabe Pinoy if you troll him on Anthroscape lol. He has severe Off Mexican dilemma.
http://s1.zetaboards.com/anthroscape/topic/8277751/1/

He even thinks Mexicans pass better in the Phils than Viets rofl.
http://s1.zetaboards.com/anthroscape/single/?p=3385614&t=8327985

[Maguzanci]

there's two types of amerindians in Peru (according to me): Amazon Indians (mongoloid traits: thick lips, wide nose, droopy eyes) and then there is Highland Indians (caucasoid traits: thin lips, long noses, round eyes). And everything inbetween. Amazon types are concentrated mostly in the amazon region but it's not exclusive there as you can find those types in all parts of the country including the andes. Highlanders are concentrated mostly in the andes especially the southern part of Peru and just like amazon indians they're not exclusive to the andes and can be found all throughout the country even in the amazon rainforest.

indomestizos of the highland variety (cusco) tend to look like this. more of levantine or euro shifted gypsy phenotype.
https://i.imgur.com/Dz179RP.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/7Ha6Hdy.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/yd5Z7F8.jpg

if we're going off of these northern africans then i would say their phenotype is foreign here in Peru espcially among european/amerindian mixes. To get that phenotype you would definitely have to have african adxmiture of some form. basically triracial. not sure the ratios. maybe an amazon indian + gracile med mestizo :noidea:
https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-c43ac6c732167621fe2712fb16882b2b

i'm a novice when it comes to racial classification so take what i say with a grain of salt. :thumb001:

Agree those Indomestizos of highland variety do look very Caucasoid. I also think they can pass as Gypsies in Europe.

[Colan]

in Spain they have confused me with a Moroccan more than once

[misiones]

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[Thetruth]

I don’t see a thick beard man everywhere in the streets of Peru

[misiones]

I don’t see a thick beard man everywhere in the streets of Peru

Jason Day, balanced mestizo, can pass in Turkey
https://www.atv.pe/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/Jason-Day-700x420.png

[Thetruth]

Jason Day, balanced mestizo, can pass in Turkey
https://www.atv.pe/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/Jason-Day-700x420.png

His a balanced Mestizo ?

[misiones]

His a balanced Mestizo ?

Possibly Harnizo
Between 55-65% European

[misiones]

His a balanced Mestizo ?

Possibly Harnizo
Between 55-65% European

[Thetruth]

Possibly Harnizo
Between 55-65% European

Ok so we don’t have a definitive truth, just pure speculation based on appearance