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Vojnik
08-17-2018, 06:13 AM
I was jealous of Teutone's how German are you thread because i didn't get any German in the V3 calculator. But i do get German in Eurogenes K13.

Single Population Sharing:


<tbody>
#
Population (source)
Distance


1
Romanian
3.05


2
Bulgarian
3.5


3
Serbian
6.65


4
Greek_Thessaly
9.42


5
Moldavian
12.95


6
Tuscan
14.02


7
North_Italian
14.63


8
Hungarian
14.72


9
Italian_Abruzzo
14.93


10
Croatian
15.63


11
Central_Greek
16.02


12
West_Sicilian
16.69


13
Austrian
16.97


14
East_Sicilian
17.18


15
Ashkenazi
19.03


16
East_German
19.09


17
French
19.47


18
West_German
19.82


19
Portuguese
19.98


20
South_Italian
20.26

</tbody>

Mortimer
08-17-2018, 06:16 AM
Still no German, but I get Austrian. A close second.

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek_Thessaly 14.68
2 Bulgarian 15.15
3 Romanian 15.54
4 Italian_Abruzzo 17.99
5 Central_Greek 18.08
6 Serbian 18.22
7 East_Sicilian 18.86
8 West_Sicilian 19.45
9 Tuscan 19.58
10 Moldavian 20.86
11 North_Italian 21.03
12 South_Italian 21.13
13 Ashkenazi 21.2
14 Hungarian 23.89
15 Croatian 24.07
16 Turkish 24.36
17 Austrian 25.83
18 Turkmen 25.94
19 Sephardic_Jewish 26
20 Tadjik

Vojnik
08-17-2018, 06:18 AM
Austrian-German. Same same.

Iloko
08-17-2018, 06:20 AM
More Bulgarian/Turk/Romanian/Greek

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 92.5% Dai + 7.5% MA-1 @ 2.49
2 90.8% Dai + 9.2% Uzbeki @ 2.68
3 91.4% Dai + 8.6% Afghan_Turkmen @ 2.76
4 92.2% Dai + 7.8% Tatar @ 2.78
5 89.7% Dai + 10.3% Uygur @ 2.82
6 92.6% Dai + 7.4% Mari @ 2.83
7 92.5% Dai + 7.5% Chuvash @ 2.89
8 90.7% Dai + 9.3% Aghan_Hazara @ 2.95
9 90.4% Dai + 9.6% Hazara @ 3.01
10 91.9% Dai + 8.1% Afghan_Tadjik @ 3.09
11 91.9% Dai + 8.1% Turkmen @ 3.09
12 92.5% Dai + 7.5% Bulgarian @ 3.09
13 77.9% Vietnamese + 22.1% Malay @ 3.11
14 92.6% Dai + 7.4% Moldavian @ 3.12
15 92.5% Dai + 7.5% Romanian @ 3.13
16 92.5% Dai + 7.5% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.13
17 91.8% Dai + 8.2% Nogay @ 3.17
18 92.2% Dai + 7.8% Tadjik @ 3.18
19 92.6% Dai + 7.4% Ashkenazi @ 3.19
20 92.6% Dai + 7.4% Serbian @ 3.2

Bobby Martnen
08-17-2018, 06:23 AM
Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 West_German 5.48
2 Austrian 5.98
3 South_Dutch 7.23
4 East_German 8.44
5 Hungarian 8.92
6 North_German 9.66
7 French 10.1
8 Southeast_English 12.01
9 Serbian 12.01
10 Danish 12.05
11 North_Dutch 12.33
12 Orcadian 13.35
13 Swedish 13.65
14 Southwest_English 13.95
15 Irish 14.13
16 Norwegian 14.14
17 Croatian 14.69
18 West_Scottish 14.81
19 Romanian 15.08
20 Moldavian 15.21

I've bolded the Germans. Populations I actually descend from are underlined.

Vojnik
08-17-2018, 06:26 AM
Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 West_German 5.48
2 Austrian 5.98
3 South_Dutch 7.23
4 East_German 8.44
5 Hungarian 8.92
6 North_German 9.66
7 French 10.1
8 Southeast_English 12.01
9 Serbian 12.01
10 Danish 12.05
11 North_Dutch 12.33
12 Orcadian 13.35
13 Swedish 13.65
14 Southwest_English 13.95
15 Irish 14.13
16 Norwegian 14.14
17 Croatian 14.69
18 West_Scottish 14.81
19 Romanian 15.08
20 Moldavian 15.21

I've bolded the Germans. Populations I actually descend from are underlined.

Aryan.

You have Serbian ancestry?

Norb
08-17-2018, 07:44 AM
1 South_Dutch 3.4
2 Southeast_English 4.36
3 West_German 4.96
4 Southwest_English 6.21
5 Orcadian 6.7
6 North_Dutch 7.56
7 Danish 7.62
8 North_German 7.75
9 French 8.04
10 Irish 8.1
11 West_Scottish 8.24
12 Norwegian 9.78
13 Swedish 11
14 Austrian 11.06
15 East_German 11.96
16 Spanish_Cataluna 14.94
17 North_Swedish 15.54
18 Hungarian 15.74
19 Southwest_French

I am closer to Dutch than people of my own area

Thracian
08-17-2018, 07:57 AM
I just have Austrian.

Impaler
08-17-2018, 08:10 AM
17 West_German 23.12

1 58.9% East_German + 41.1% Iranian_Jewish @ 6.54
2 58.2% East_German + 41.8% Lebanese_Druze @ 6.56

Moje ime
08-17-2018, 08:24 AM
1 Serbian 2.89
2 Romanian 6.28
3 Hungarian 7.21
4 Moldavian 8.44
5 Bulgarian 8.96
6 Croatian 9.62
7 Austrian 10.01
8 East_German 11.92
9 West_German 14.63
10 South_Polish 15.83
11 Ukrainian_Lviv 16.02
12 South_Dutch 16.36
13 French 16.7
14 Greek_Thessaly 16.93
15 Ukrainian 17.16
16 North_Italian 17.91
17 North_German 19.04
18 Tuscan 19.58
19 Polish 19.62
20 Portuguese 20.38

Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas
08-17-2018, 08:40 AM
Viriato:


1 Portuguese 2.93
2 Spanish_Extremadura 3.73
3 Spanish_Galicia 4.46
4 Spanish_Murcia 4.54
5 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 4.65
6 Spanish_Andalucia 5.1
7 Spanish_Cataluna 5.16
8 Spanish_Valencia 5.47
9 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 5.68
10 Spanish_Cantabria 7.18
11 North_Italian 7.36
12 Spanish_Aragon 8.77
13 Southwest_French 9.16
14 French 10.16
15 Tuscan 13.28
16 West_German 15.98
17 South_Dutch 16.11
18 Romanian 18.95
19 Serbian 19.21
20 West_Sicilian 19.88

Mrs. Viriato:


1 Spanish_Extremadura 3.78
2 Spanish_Murcia 3.91
3 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 4
4 Portuguese 4.04
5 Spanish_Cataluna 4.14
6 Spanish_Valencia 4.15
7 Spanish_Galicia 4.41
8 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 4.45
9 Spanish_Cantabria 4.89
10 Spanish_Andalucia 5.14
11 Spanish_Aragon 6.41
12 Southwest_French 7.12
13 French 10.4
14 North_Italian 10.79
15 South_Dutch 16.32
16 West_German 16.57
17 Tuscan 16.68
18 French_Basque 17.3
19 Southeast_English 20.19
20 Southwest_English 20.46

Bogdan
08-17-2018, 02:45 PM
Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 West_German 5.7
2 Austrian 6.05
3 South_Dutch 6.21
4 East_German 7.24
5 North_German 8.87
6 Southeast_English 9.7
7 Hungarian 9.88
8 French 9.93
9 Danish 10.41
10 North_Dutch 10.59
11 Orcadian 11.23
12 Swedish 11.58
13 Southwest_English 12.03
14 Norwegian 12.06
15 Irish 12.7
16 West_Scottish 13.16
17 North_Swedish 13.49
18 Serbian 14.59
19 Croatian 15.44
20 Spanish_Cataluna 16.88

Teutonski
08-17-2018, 02:55 PM
K13 Oracle ref data revised 21 Nov 2013

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 44.53
2 Baltic 27.93
3 West_Med 11.62
4 West_Asian 9.25
5 East_Med 4.43
6 Red_Sea 1.04


Finished reading population data. 204 populations found.
13 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 North_German @ 3.970526
2 Danish @ 7.144774
3 North_Dutch @ 7.146284
4 Swedish @ 7.705730
5 West_German @ 8.145841
6 Norwegian @ 8.322192
7 South_Dutch @ 8.407866
8 Orcadian @ 9.187534
9 Austrian @ 9.268178
10 Southeast_English @ 9.435848
11 East_German @ 9.706859
12 Irish @ 9.715201
13 West_Scottish @ 10.903099
14 Southwest_English @ 11.162557
15 North_Swedish @ 12.149819
16 Hungarian @ 14.204803
17 French @ 15.247638
18 Southwest_Finnish @ 19.710711
19 Croatian @ 20.104565
20 South_Polish @ 20.121244

Grace O'Malley
08-17-2018, 03:10 PM
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 51.71
2 Baltic 25.4
3 West_Med 9.97
4 West_Asian 7.3
5 Red_Sea 1.77
6 East_Med 1.61
7 Amerindian 1.28
8 Siberian 0.73
9 Oceanian 0.22

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 North_Dutch 2.93
2 Irish 3.11
3 Norwegian 3.54
4 West_Scottish 3.71
5 Danish 3.82
6 Orcadian 3.83
7 North_German 5.25
8 Southeast_English 6.1
9 Southwest_English 6.24
10 Swedish 6.33
11 South_Dutch 10.06
12 West_German 10.9
13 North_Swedish 12.64
14 Austrian 15.02
15 East_German 15.17
16 French 15.76
17 Hungarian 19.31
18 Southwest_Finnish 20.89
19 Spanish_Cataluna 23.16
20 South_Polish 23.9

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 56% Irish + 44% Norwegian @ 2.24
2 52.1% Norwegian + 47.9% West_Scottish @ 2.36
3 75.3% Irish + 24.7% Swedish @ 2.45
4 54.8% North_Dutch + 45.2% Irish @ 2.5
5 87.1% Irish + 12.9% North_Swedish @ 2.51
6 68.2% West_Scottish + 31.8% Swedish @ 2.55
7 93.7% Irish + 6.3% Finnish @ 2.56
8 65.8% North_Dutch + 34.2% West_Scottish @ 2.58
9 94.7% Irish + 5.3% East_Finnish @ 2.61
10 92.5% Irish + 7.5% Southwest_Finnish @ 2.62
11 94.1% Irish + 5.9% La_Brana-1 @ 2.62
12 96.2% Irish + 3.8% Chuvash @ 2.63
13 73.3% Irish + 26.7% North_German @ 2.63
14 95.8% Irish + 4.2% Erzya @ 2.68
15 94.7% Irish + 5.3% Estonian @ 2.68
16 63.8% West_Scottish + 36.2% North_German @ 2.69
17 96.7% Irish + 3.3% Mari @ 2.69
18 95.2% Irish + 4.8% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.72
19 95.1% Irish + 4.9% Belorussian @ 2.72
20 83% West_Scottish + 17% North_Swedish @ 2.72

Lauχum
08-17-2018, 03:26 PM
# Population (source) Distance
1 French 4.99
2 West_German 5.89
3 South_Dutch 6.39
4 Southeast_English 10.27
5 Spanish_Cataluna 10.66
6 Southwest_English 11.95
7 Portuguese 11.99
8 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 12.24
9 Austrian 12.45
10 Spanish_Galicia 12.69
11 Orcadian 12.87
12 North_German 12.88
13 Spanish_Valencia 13.12
14 Spanish_Murcia 13.19
15 North_Dutch 13.45
16 Danish 13.48
17 Spanish_Cantabria 13.84
18 Spanish_Extremadura 14.02
19 Irish 14.04
20 West_Scottish 14.08

Freeroostah
08-17-2018, 03:31 PM
Nothing, I only get 25% NE Euro for K13

Oneeye
08-17-2018, 03:42 PM
1South_Dutch4.7
2Southeast_English4.8
3West_German4.82
4North_German5.2
5North_Dutch5.66
6Orcadian5.84
7Danish6
8Irish6.37
9Southwest_English6.51
10West_Scottish7.06
11Norwegian7.93
12Swedish9.21
13French10.21
14Austrian10.79
15East_German11.81
16North_Swedish14.41
17Hungarian15.2
18Spanish_Cataluna17.75
19Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon19.02
20Spanish_Galicia19.17

Damião de Góis
08-17-2018, 04:08 PM
# Population (source) Distance
1 Portuguese 2.47
2 Spanish_Extremadura 3.4
3 Spanish_Cataluna 3.71
4 Spanish_Murcia 3.82
5 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 3.89
6 Spanish_Galicia 4.22
7 Spanish_Valencia 4.44
8 Spanish_Andalucia 4.94
9 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 5.17
10 Spanish_Cantabria 6.44
11 Spanish_Aragon 7.94
12 North_Italian 8.53
13 Southwest_French 8.75
14 French 9.38
15 Tuscan 14.39
16 West_German 15.36
17 South_Dutch 15.43
18 French_Basque 19.37
19 Southeast_English 19.82
20 Romanian 19.96

Congolese Rice
08-18-2018, 02:50 AM
watsup son, yall aint shit compared 2 me



Using 1 population approximation:
1 West_German @ 28.259190
2 South_Dutch @ 28.633154
3 North_German @ 29.317526
4 French @ 29.674717
5 Austrian @ 29.837809
6 Danish @ 30.107670
7 Southeast_English @ 30.237770
8 North_Dutch @ 30.339176
9 East_German @ 30.378429
10 Orcadian @ 30.456604
11 Swedish @ 30.623066
12 Hungarian @ 30.932800
13 Southwest_English @ 30.994549
14 Irish @ 31.023943
15 West_Scottish @ 31.218449
16 Norwegian @ 31.218840
17 North_Swedish @ 32.172626
18 Spanish_Galicia @ 32.790688
19 Portuguese @ 32.975872
20 Serbian @ 33.082039

"1 West_German @ 28.259190"

"3 North_German @ 29.317526"

"9 East_German @ 30.378429"

"5 Austrian @ 29.837809"


^ i am only missing "south_german" in my oracles :(( then i would have north east south west

Jägerstaffel
08-18-2018, 03:05 AM
# Population (source) Distance
1 South_Dutch 4.74
2 North_German 5.22
3 West_German 5.42
4 Southeast_English 5.52
5 North_Dutch 6.12
6 Danish 6.13
7 Orcadian 6.3
8 Southwest_English 7.28
9 Irish 7.46
10 Norwegian 7.77
11 Swedish 8.05
12 West_Scottish 8.16
13 Austrian 8.93
14 East_German 9.24
15 French 10.48
16 North_Swedish 12.42
17 Hungarian 13.59
18 Spanish_Cataluna 17.81
19 Spanish_Galicia 18.76
20 Croatian 18.8

Congolese Rice
08-18-2018, 03:09 AM
# Population (source) Distance
1 South_Dutch 4.74
2 North_German 5.22
3 West_German 5.42
4 Southeast_English 5.52
5 North_Dutch 6.12
6 Danish 6.13
7 Orcadian 6.3
8 Southwest_English 7.28
9 Irish 7.46
10 Norwegian 7.77
11 Swedish 8.05
12 West_Scottish 8.16
13 Austrian 8.93
14 East_German 9.24
15 French 10.48
16 North_Swedish 12.42
17 Hungarian 13.59
18 Spanish_Cataluna 17.81
19 Spanish_Galicia 18.76
20 Croatian 18.8

shiet, seems like i have found my match...

happycow
08-18-2018, 03:15 AM
In mixed mode 4.5% North German

Gründig
08-18-2018, 03:29 AM
# Population (source) Distance
1 Austrian 4.61
2 West_German 4.65
3 South_Dutch 5.72
4 East_German 6.69
5 Hungarian 8.91
6 French 8.92
7 North_German 9.28
8 Southeast_English 10.87
9 Danish 11.44
10 North_Dutch 11.56
11 Orcadian 12.21
12 Southwest_English 12.59
13 Serbian 12.67
14 Swedish 12.75
15 Irish 13.19
16 Norwegian 13.3
17 West_Scottish 13.9
18 Croatian 14.25
19 North_Swedish 15.08
20 Moldavian 15.19

50.4% Austrian + 49.6% West_German @1.87
There is no southern Germany population on this calculator, so I'm assuming this is would be pretty close to it. Numerous other calculators place me in southern and western Germany and smaller amounts in northern and easter Germany. Fits my paper trail.

Gründig
08-18-2018, 05:19 PM
Bump

Congolese Rice
08-18-2018, 07:03 PM
Bump

question my fren, do u know any gedmatch test that is best for german ancestry besides eurogenes K13? im tryna figure out exactly where in germany my dad's ancestors couldve came from

Gründig
08-18-2018, 08:24 PM
question my fren, do u know any gedmatch test that is best for german ancestry besides eurogenes K13? im tryna figure out exactly where in germany my dad's ancestors couldve came from

Umm maybe try Dodecad K12b, PuntDNA K12 modern and K13 and lukasz's K36 test.

How about the heat map test for K36?

Rædwald
08-18-2018, 08:34 PM
Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance

1 Southeast_English 5.1
2 South_Dutch 5.16
3 West_German 5.87
4 Orcadian 6.7
5 Southwest_English 7.07
6 Danish 7.34
7 North_German 7.36
8 North_Dutch 7.44
9 Irish 7.92
10 West_Scottish 8.28
11 Norwegian 9.28
12 French 9.52
13 Swedish 10.18
14 Austrian 11.1
15 East_German 11.56
16 North_Swedish 14.53
17 Hungarian 15.37
18 Spanish_Cataluna 16.45
19 Southwest_French 17.56
20 Spanish_Galicia 17.6

Norb
08-18-2018, 08:49 PM
Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance

1 Southeast_English 5.1
2 South_Dutch 5.16
3 West_German 5.87
4 Orcadian 6.7
5 Southwest_English 7.07
6 Danish 7.34
7 North_German 7.36
8 North_Dutch 7.44
9 Irish 7.92
10 West_Scottish 8.28
11 Norwegian 9.28
12 French 9.52
13 Swedish 10.18
14 Austrian 11.1
15 East_German 11.56
16 North_Swedish 14.53
17 Hungarian 15.37
18 Spanish_Cataluna 16.45
19 Southwest_French 17.56
20 Spanish_Galicia 17.6

what are your 23andme results?

Rædwald
08-18-2018, 08:50 PM
what are your 23andme results?

Haven't had one done yet, but soon.

Jägerstaffel
08-19-2018, 12:52 AM
I have no actual German ancestry, despite some affinity to it in this test apparently.