Dukagjini's GEDmatch Eurogenes K13 Results (23andme v5)

[Dukagjini]

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 24.4
2 North_Atlantic 22.11
3 West_Med 21.56
4 Baltic 18.02
5 West_Asian 11.99
6 Red_Sea 1.55
7 Oceanian 0.34
8 Northeast_African 0.02

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek_Thessaly 4.15
2 Bulgarian 7.35
3 Romanian 9.21
4 Tuscan 9.38
5 Italian_Abruzzo 9.69
6 Central_Greek 10.19
7 West_Sicilian 10.73
8 East_Sicilian 11.6
9 North_Italian 12.25
10 Serbian 13.28
11 Ashkenazi 13.83
12 South_Italian 14.06
13 Moldavian 19.47
14 Italian_Jewish 19.75
15 Algerian_Jewish 19.94
16 Portuguese 20.12
17 Sephardic_Jewish 20.14
18 Spanish_Extremadura 20.58
19 Spanish_Galicia 21.16
20 Hungarian 21.32

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 60.3% Bulgarian + 39.7% West_Sicilian @ 2.71
2 91.7% Greek_Thessaly + 8.3% Southeast_English @ 3.03
3 89.5% Greek_Thessaly + 10.5% West_German @ 3.04
4 89% Greek_Thessaly + 11% Austrian @ 3.06
5 90.1% Greek_Thessaly + 9.9% South_Dutch @ 3.06
6 92.2% Greek_Thessaly + 7.8% Southwest_English @ 3.07
7 92.4% Greek_Thessaly + 7.6% Orcadian @ 3.09
8 92.3% Greek_Thessaly + 7.7% North_Dutch @ 3.09
9 90.1% Greek_Thessaly + 9.9% East_German @ 3.1
10 92.7% Greek_Thessaly + 7.3% Norwegian @ 3.1
11 92.3% Greek_Thessaly + 7.7% Danish @ 3.12
12 92.6% Greek_Thessaly + 7.4% Irish @ 3.12
13 92.8% Greek_Thessaly + 7.2% West_Scottish @ 3.13
14 92.7% Greek_Thessaly + 7.3% Swedish @ 3.14
15 91.9% Greek_Thessaly + 8.1% North_German @ 3.14
16 67.4% Bulgarian + 32.6% South_Italian @ 3.17
17 89.3% Greek_Thessaly + 10.7% French @ 3.17
18 61.3% Romanian + 38.7% South_Italian @ 3.19
19 76.7% Greek_Thessaly + 23.3% Romanian @ 3.22
20 90.7% Greek_Thessaly + 9.3% Southwest_French @ 3.23

[Dukagjini]

I am a Montenegro Albanian.

[Dukagjini]

Can someone explain what this all means because I'm still a noob when it comes to this stuff.

[Gründig]

Can someone explain what this all means because I'm still a noob when it comes to this stuff.

Basically, the single populations are a list of places you are closest to. The smaller the number, the closer you are.

The mixed mode is a mix of 2 populations you are closest to. You can see the percentage it gives for both populations and the distance at the end.

Some may make sense and some may not. You are closer in the mixed mode. Each calculator will vary.

Are any if those single populations or mixed mode populations accurate?

[Hulu]

Can someone explain what this all means because I'm still a noob when it comes to this stuff.

Give Safinator your gedmatch ID so he will place in Albanians K15 map to see you where you stand in comparison.

[Dukagjini]

Give Safinator your gedmatch ID so he will place in Albanians K15 map to see you where you stand in comparison.

ok, and should i also do genesis? Genesis has a smaller sample size though. Idk how accurate this is but usually from what I've seen Monte Albs score higher baltic, and I do not score baltic the most, quite surprising.

[Gründig]

ok, and should i also do genesis? Genesis has a smaller sample size though. Idk how accurate this is but usually from what I've seen Monte Albs score higher baltic, and I do not score baltic the most, quite surprising.

I've done both genesis and regular gedmatch. Very minor differences but regular was more accurate for me.

So if anything, take a look at both.

[Hulu]

ok, and should i also do genesis? Genesis has a smaller sample size though. Idk how accurate this is but usually from what I've seen Monte Albs score higher baltic, and I do not score baltic the most, quite surprising.

I have no idea about genesis. Take Grundig's advice I think

[Dukagjini]

Basically, the single populations are a list of places you are closest to. The smaller the number, the closer you are.

The mixed mode is a mix of 2 populations you are closest to. You can see the percentage it gives for both populations and the distance at the end.

Some may make sense and some may not. You are closer in the mixed mode. Each calculator will vary.

Are any if those single populations or mixed mode populations accurate?

Oh ok I see now. Idk know how accurate this is but considering I am Albanian and Greeks and albs share similar dna I can see why I would be closer to Greek-Thessaly for ex.

[TheMaestro]

You have pretty much Albanian results, neither northern shifted neither southern, you are definitely generic. Greek could also mean Albanian on Eurogenes, upload your results on puntDNAL K13 Global those were the most accurate for me.

[Pubiczar]

Can someone explain what this all means because I'm still a noob when it comes to this stuff.

It means that you are closest to the Vlachs of Thessaly, than to Bulgarians and Romanians.
If there was an Albanian reference, you would have been closest to it probably

[TheMaestro]

It means that you are closest to the Vlachs of Thessaly, than to Bulgarians and Romanians.
If there was an Albanian reference, you would have been closest to it probably

There isn't.

[Dukagjini]

It means that you are closest to the Vlachs of Thessaly, than to Bulgarians and Romanians.
If there was an Albanian reference, you would have been closest to it probably

Most Albanians get these kind of results, just look here

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?238790-Albanian-gedmatch-results

[TheMaestro]

Most Albanians get these kind of results, just look here

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?238790-Albanian-gedmatch-results

Can you post PUNTDNAL K13 ?

[Dukagjini]

Can you post PUNTDNAL K13 ?

sure, btw how long did it take to complete batch processing and tokenization? I'm still batch processing.

[Coolguy1]

Could you please post your gedmatch id number if thats fine.

[safinator]

You are, dare i say, the stereotypical Albanian results wise.

MDLP and PUNTDNA have Albanian reference samples so you might try those too.

[Dukagjini]

You are, dare i say, the stereotypical Albanian results wise.

MDLP and PUNTDNA have Albanian reference samples so you might try those too.

O sa mir me qen shqiptar :D

Here is my puntDNAL K13 Global results

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 SW_Europe 39.24
2 NE_Europe 29.95
3 West_Asia 18.85
4 SW_Asia 9.71
5 Oceania 1
6 South_Africa 0.64
7 SE_Asia 0.6

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Kosovar 3.18
2 Italian_Tuscan 3.41
3 Albanian 3.74
4 Greek_Thessaly 4.52
5 Macedonian 4.58
6 Bulgarian 5.1
7 Italian_Bergamo 6.84
8 Montenegrin 7.74
9 Romanian 8.32
10 Serbian 9.69
11 Italian_Abruzzo 9.9
12 Greek_Central 10.13
13 Spaniard 12.54
14 Bosnian 13.57
15 Ashkenazy_Jew 14.49
16 Croatian 14.94
17 French 14.98
18 Italian_Sicilian 15.51
19 Moldavian 16.12
20 German_South 17.27

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 62.2% Italian_Tuscan + 37.8% Bulgarian @ 1.8
2 81.9% Albanian + 18.1% French @ 1.8
3 78.2% Greek_Thessaly + 21.8% French @ 1.81
4 63.8% Italian_Abruzzo + 36.2% German_South @ 1.81
5 68% Italian_Abruzzo + 32% Scottish @ 1.82
6 72.3% Italian_Tuscan + 27.7% Montenegrin @ 1.83
7 59.3% Italian_Tuscan + 40.7% Macedonian @ 1.83
8 82.7% Kosovar + 17.3% Spaniard @ 1.83
9 76.9% Italian_Tuscan + 23.1% Serbian @ 1.85
10 68.6% Italian_Abruzzo + 31.4% Orcadian @ 1.89
11 74.2% Italian_Tuscan + 25.8% Romanian @ 1.91
12 67.1% Italian_Abruzzo + 32.9% English @ 1.92
13 85.1% Italian_Tuscan + 14.9% Moldavian @ 1.93
14 69.1% Italian_Abruzzo + 30.9% Irish @ 1.93
15 59.9% Greek_Central + 40.1% French @ 1.94
16 89.7% Kosovar + 10.3% French_Basque @ 1.97
17 84.9% Albanian + 15.1% Belgian @ 1.98
18 70.5% Spaniard + 29.5% Adygei @ 1.98
19 92.4% Italian_Tuscan + 7.6% Mordovian @ 1.98
20 82.9% Italian_Tuscan + 17.1% Bosnian @ 2

[safinator]

^Confirms my suspicions.

[Dukagjini]

^Confirms my suspicions.

yo my kit is still batch processing does this matter when i do/use admix calculators?

[safinator]

yo my kit is still batch processing does this matter when i do/use admix calculators?

I dont remember if it counts for calculators but it counts for one to many matches.

[TheMaestro]

sure, btw how long did it take to complete batch processing and tokenization? I'm still batch processing.

For me it takes 30 secs max.

[HELLBANIAN]

Mine for comparison.

K13 Eurogenes

1 Greek_Thessaly 6.7
2 Bulgarian 7.53
3 Romanian 8.07
4 Tuscan 8.08
5 North_Italian 9.15
6 Italian_Abruzzo 11.13
7 Serbian 11.41
8 West_Sicilian 11.79
9 Central_Greek 12.88
10 East_Sicilian 13.9
11 Ashkenazi 16.16
12 South_Italian 16.32
13 Portuguese 16.44
14 Spanish_Extremadura 17.04
15 Spanish_Galicia 17.37
16 Moldavian 18.1
17 Spanish_Murcia 18.13
18 Spanish_Cataluna 18.13
19 Spanish_Valencia 18.25
20 Spanish_Andalucia 18.32


puntDNAL K13

1 Italian_Tuscan 3.36
2 Albanian 4.63
3 Kosovar 4.77
4 Greek_Thessaly 5.42
5 Italian_Bergamo 5.99
6 Macedonian 6.05
7 Bulgarian 6.38
8 Montenegrin 9.33
9 Romanian 9.47
10 Italian_Abruzzo 9.94
11 Serbian 10.76
12 Greek_Central 10.77
13 Spaniard 11.63
14 Ashkenazy_Jew 14.55
15 Bosnian 14.74
16 French 15.14
17 Italian_Sicilian 15.39
18 Croatian 15.85
19 Moldavian 17.02
20 German_South 17.73

[Dukagjini]

For me it takes 30 secs max.

i still have the two red asterisks and it's still batch processing, idk if this matters for using admix calcs...and if it changes the accuracy of the results

[TheMaestro]

O sa mir me qen shqiptar :D

Here is my puntDNAL K13 Global results

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 SW_Europe 39.24
2 NE_Europe 29.95
3 West_Asia 18.85
4 SW_Asia 9.71
5 Oceania 1
6 South_Africa 0.64
7 SE_Asia 0.6

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Kosovar 3.18
2 Italian_Tuscan 3.41
3 Albanian 3.74
4 Greek_Thessaly 4.52
5 Macedonian 4.58
6 Bulgarian 5.1
7 Italian_Bergamo 6.84
8 Montenegrin 7.74
9 Romanian 8.32
10 Serbian 9.69
11 Italian_Abruzzo 9.9
12 Greek_Central 10.13
13 Spaniard 12.54
14 Bosnian 13.57
15 Ashkenazy_Jew 14.49
16 Croatian 14.94
17 French 14.98
18 Italian_Sicilian 15.51
19 Moldavian 16.12
20 German_South 17.27

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 62.2% Italian_Tuscan + 37.8% Bulgarian @ 1.8
2 81.9% Albanian + 18.1% French @ 1.8
3 78.2% Greek_Thessaly + 21.8% French @ 1.81
4 63.8% Italian_Abruzzo + 36.2% German_South @ 1.81
5 68% Italian_Abruzzo + 32% Scottish @ 1.82
6 72.3% Italian_Tuscan + 27.7% Montenegrin @ 1.83
7 59.3% Italian_Tuscan + 40.7% Macedonian @ 1.83
8 82.7% Kosovar + 17.3% Spaniard @ 1.83
9 76.9% Italian_Tuscan + 23.1% Serbian @ 1.85
10 68.6% Italian_Abruzzo + 31.4% Orcadian @ 1.89
11 74.2% Italian_Tuscan + 25.8% Romanian @ 1.91
12 67.1% Italian_Abruzzo + 32.9% English @ 1.92
13 85.1% Italian_Tuscan + 14.9% Moldavian @ 1.93
14 69.1% Italian_Abruzzo + 30.9% Irish @ 1.93
15 59.9% Greek_Central + 40.1% French @ 1.94
16 89.7% Kosovar + 10.3% French_Basque @ 1.97
17 84.9% Albanian + 15.1% Belgian @ 1.98
18 70.5% Spaniard + 29.5% Adygei @ 1.98
19 92.4% Italian_Tuscan + 7.6% Mordovian @ 1.98
20 82.9% Italian_Tuscan + 17.1% Bosnian @ 2

I've said you, you will be happy with puntDNAL K13, eurogenes for us is not accurate at all.

[HELLBANIAN]

I noticed results vary from calculator to calculator

[TheMaestro]

Mine for comparison.

K13 Eurogenes

1 Greek_Thessaly 6.7
2 Bulgarian 7.53
3 Romanian 8.07
4 Tuscan 8.08
5 North_Italian 9.15
6 Italian_Abruzzo 11.13
7 Serbian 11.41
8 West_Sicilian 11.79
9 Central_Greek 12.88
10 East_Sicilian 13.9
11 Ashkenazi 16.16
12 South_Italian 16.32
13 Portuguese 16.44
14 Spanish_Extremadura 17.04
15 Spanish_Galicia 17.37
16 Moldavian 18.1
17 Spanish_Murcia 18.13
18 Spanish_Cataluna 18.13
19 Spanish_Valencia 18.25
20 Spanish_Andalucia 18.32


puntDNAL K13

1 Italian_Tuscan 3.36
2 Albanian 4.63
3 Kosovar 4.77
4 Greek_Thessaly 5.42
5 Italian_Bergamo 5.99
6 Macedonian 6.05
7 Bulgarian 6.38
8 Montenegrin 9.33
9 Romanian 9.47
10 Italian_Abruzzo 9.94
11 Serbian 10.76
12 Greek_Central 10.77
13 Spaniard 11.63
14 Ashkenazy_Jew 14.55
15 Bosnian 14.74
16 French 15.14
17 Italian_Sicilian 15.39
18 Croatian 15.85
19 Moldavian 17.02
20 German_South 17.73

Post puntDNAL, where are you from?

[Arborean]

Me:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 SW_Europe 42.66
2 NE_Europe 25.47
3 West_Asia 19.45
4 SW_Asia 10.58
5 Siberia 0.7
6 SE_Asia 0.43
7 NE_Asia 0.37
8 South_Africa 0.32
9 Oceania 0.01

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Italian_Tuscan 2.82
2 Albanian 4.67
3 Greek_Thessaly 4.92
4 Kosovar 5.48
5 Italian_Abruzzo 6.52
6 Italian_Bergamo 7.5
7 Greek_Central 8.64
8 Macedonian 9.57
9 Bulgarian 9.93
10 Ashkenazy_Jew 11.45
11 Italian_Sicilian 12.03
12 Montenegrin 12.84
13 Romanian 13.2
14 Spaniard 13.63
15 Serbian 14.78
16 Sephardic_Jew 15.92
17 Bosnian 18.66
18 French 18.76
19 Croatian 19.82
20 Moldavian 21.22

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 71.1% Spaniard + 28.9% Turkish_Trabzon @ 1.1
2 77% Italian_Bergamo + 23% Cypriot @ 1.47
3 60.7% Italian_Bergamo + 39.3% Ashkenazy_Jew @ 1.49

Father:Eastern Albania-Diber

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 SW_Europe 42.41
2 NE_Europe 23.31
3 West_Asia 19.45
4 SW_Asia 11.25
5 SE_Asia 1.02
6 South_Africa 0.87
7 Americas 0.81
8 Siberia 0.74
9 Oceania 0.15

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Italian_Tuscan 4.78
2 Italian_Abruzzo 5.43
3 Albanian 5.79
4 Greek_Thessaly 5.84
5 Kosovar 6.92
6 Greek_Central 8.01
7 Italian_Bergamo 9.39
8 Ashkenazy_Jew 9.99
9 Italian_Sicilian 10.44
10 Macedonian 11.31
11 Bulgarian 11.54
12 Sephardic_Jew 14.31
13 Montenegrin 14.55
14 Romanian 14.64
15 Spaniard 15.19
16 Serbian 16.54
17 Bosnian 20.44
18 French 20.66
19 Croatian 21.67
20 Puerto_Rican 22.24

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 52.8% Italian_Bergamo + 47.2% Italian_Sicilian @ 2.41
2 70.5% Ashkenazy_Jew + 29.5% French_Basque @ 2.49
3 82.8% Italian_Abruzzo + 17.2% French_Basque @ 2.52

My Mother: North-West Albania Puka

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 SW_Europe 39.99
2 NE_Europe 27.27
3 West_Asia 19.97
4 SW_Asia 9.63
5 Siberia 1.84
6 West_Africa 0.47
7 SE_Asia 0.45
8 South_Africa 0.33
9 South_Asia 0.03
10 Oceania 0.02

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Albanian 2.63
2 Italian_Tuscan 2.96
3 Greek_Thessaly 3.3
4 Kosovar 3.3
5 Macedonian 7.17
6 Bulgarian 7.31
7 Italian_Abruzzo 7.79
8 Italian_Bergamo 7.88
9 Greek_Central 8.3
10 Montenegrin 10.26
11 Romanian 10.51
12 Serbian 12.32
13 Ashkenazy_Jew 12.35
14 Italian_Sicilian 13.24
15 Spaniard 14.03
16 Bosnian 16.23
17 Sephardic_Jew 17.13
18 French 17.47
19 Croatian 17.64
20 Moldavian 18.64

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 75.2% Italian_Bergamo + 24.8% Turkish_Aydin @ 1.39
2 79.5% Italian_Bergamo + 20.5% Ossetian @ 1.69
3 68.3% Spaniard + 31.7% Ossetian @ 1.73

[HELLBANIAN]

Post puntDNAL, where are you from?

I'm Serbian.

[TheMaestro]

I'm Serbian.

Post PuntDNAL 13, should be more accurate for western and central Balkanians.

[HELLBANIAN]

Post PuntDNAL 13, should be more accurate for western and central Balkanians.

1 Italian_Tuscan 3.36
2 Albanian 4.63
3 Kosovar 4.77
4 Greek_Thessaly 5.42
5 Italian_Bergamo 5.99
6 Macedonian 6.05
7 Bulgarian 6.38
8 Montenegrin 9.33
9 Romanian 9.47
10 Italian_Abruzzo 9.94
11 Serbian 10.76
12 Greek_Central 10.77
13 Spaniard 11.63
14 Ashkenazy_Jew 14.55
15 Bosnian 14.74
16 French 15.14
17 Italian_Sicilian 15.39
18 Croatian 15.85
19 Moldavian 17.02
20 German_South 17.73

[TheMaestro]

1 Italian_Tuscan 3.36
2 Albanian 4.63
3 Kosovar 4.77
4 Greek_Thessaly 5.42
5 Italian_Bergamo 5.99
6 Macedonian 6.05
7 Bulgarian 6.38
8 Montenegrin 9.33
9 Romanian 9.47
10 Italian_Abruzzo 9.94
11 Serbian 10.76
12 Greek_Central 10.77
13 Spaniard 11.63
14 Ashkenazy_Jew 14.55
15 Bosnian 14.74
16 French 15.14
17 Italian_Sicilian 15.39
18 Croatian 15.85
19 Moldavian 17.02
20 German_South 17.73

lol, Serbia number 11.

[HELLBANIAN]

lol, Serbia number 11.

I guess I'm Serbianised.

[TheMaestro]

I guess I'm Serbianised.

:D

[Tauromachos]

Interestingly i have looked at Albanian results here and they get quite high East Med

24.4 % isn't low

[Gründig]

i still have the two red asterisks and it's still batch processing, idk if this matters for using admix calcs...and if it changes the accuracy of the results

Its not processing because its V5. Mine hasnt either. However, it does not effect the Admix Calcs.

[TheMaestro]

Interestingly i have looked at Albanian results here and they get quite high East Med

24.4 % isn't low

How much you get.

[Tauromachos]

How much you get.

Don't know never did a Test :p

[TheMaestro]

Don't know never did a Test :p

It is actually pretty normal, Greeks score even higher but you can't take it literally.

[Tauromachos]

It is actually pretty normal, Greeks score even higher but you can't take it literally.

Of course not

Well don't know i think Aegean Greeks at least should be supposed to score sometimes higher but actualy not that much more

From what i remember all Islands results i have seen were within the 20+% range too lower than 30%


So we are talking about 3% or 4% difference

Cypriots though should have reasonably more..

[TheMaestro]

Of course not

Well don't know i think Aegean Greeks at least should be supposed to score sometimes higher but actualy not that much more

From what i remember all Islands results i have seen were within the 20+% range too lower than 30%


So we are talking about 3% or 4% difference

Cypriots though should have reasonably more..

Those are mine on K13 :
3 West_Med 19.80
4 East_Med 16.27

[Tauromachos]

Those are mine on K13 :
3 West_Med 19.80
4 East_Med 16.27

Significantly lower than his,the East Med

What is your background?

Romanian?

Albanian?

[TheMaestro]

Significantly lower than his,the East Med

What is your background?

Romanian?

Albanian?

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 26.46
2 North_Atlantic 23.10
3 West_Med 19.80
4 East_Med 16.27
5 West_Asian 10.83
6 Siberian 1.38


Finished reading population data. 204 populations found.
13 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Romanian @ 4.294047
2 Bulgarian @ 5.425470
3 Serbian @ 6.249790
4 Moldavian @ 10.636567
5 Croatian @ 13.964236
6 Hungarian @ 14.582025
7 Greek_Thessaly @ 14.673629
8 Austrian @ 17.858564
9 North_Italian @ 18.787247
10 East_German @ 19.641178