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MobyD
08-21-2018, 06:40 PM
https://celebmafia.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/camila-cabello-2018-grammy-awards-in-new-york-7.jpg

http://www.celebzz.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/camila-cabello-at-2017-billboard-music-awards-in-las-vegas_1.jpg

https://www.aceshowbiz.com/images/wennpic/camila-cabello-american-music-awards-2015-01.jpg

https://assets.teenvogue.com/photos/5a0a2a896f80017946efe405/master/pass/camila-cabello-tout.jpg

Biguá
08-21-2018, 06:40 PM
yes

Cristiano viejo
08-21-2018, 06:42 PM
Yes, as Italian tourist.

skain
08-21-2018, 06:43 PM
She is at least 20% amerindian.

Token
08-21-2018, 06:56 PM
Why not?

Heather Duval
08-21-2018, 07:02 PM
She looks like Penelope Cruz which according to CV looks Iberian
https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTAKSxiKJALu8LchDnxbNKUn9DXG2R5N bDygr2s7SzSKsSQIYfSy7yBIIqKcQ

Latinus
08-21-2018, 07:03 PM
Yes, as Italian tourist.

Are you the Iberian version of the ItalicRoots guys?
You don't need to look 100% similar to a certain ethnicity/race to pass as native.

Thanas Django
08-21-2018, 07:08 PM
not a chance

Nakama
08-21-2018, 07:29 PM
Yes, she can pass.

Abdelnour
08-21-2018, 07:55 PM
Yes

gıulıoımpa
08-21-2018, 07:57 PM
quoted the wrong guy

Ancap
08-21-2018, 07:58 PM
Why not?

gıulıoımpa
08-21-2018, 07:58 PM
Yes, as Italian tourist.

meh.

Iloko
08-21-2018, 07:59 PM
looks kind of like a mix of spanish+italian

does she have any amerindian or SSA? maybe her possible amerindian admixture might have made her look a lil more italian lol

Xacal
08-21-2018, 08:24 PM
Yes, imo.

Xacal
08-21-2018, 08:25 PM
does she have any amerindian or SSA? maybe her possible amerindian admixture might have made her look a lil more italian lol

Amerindian, Her Mexican father looks Mestizo.

Nakama
08-21-2018, 08:35 PM
Yes, she can pass.

Cristiano viejo
08-21-2018, 08:45 PM
She looks like Penelope Cruz which according to CV looks Iberian
They look nothing alike.



You don't need to look 100% similar to a certain ethnicity/race to pass as native.

If you think this mestiza looks Spanish, then you have no idea how Spanish look
https://assets.teenvogue.com/photos/5a0a2a896f80017946efe405/master/pass/camila-cabello-tout.jpg

I insist, to me she seems Italian.

Heather Duval
08-21-2018, 08:46 PM
They look nothing alike.



If you think this mestiza looks Spanish, then you have no idea how Spanish look
https://assets.teenvogue.com/photos/5a0a2a896f80017946efe405/master/pass/camila-cabello-tout.jpg

I insist, to me she seems Italian.

Tell them apart
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B_CuoACUQAABESl.jpg
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/2b/1b/4f/2b1b4f88e22441b19f7690ffe06ce299.jpg


Im not even the one who did these pics. The internet did, just google Camila Cabello Penelope Cruz and youll find these pics above comparing them

gıulıoımpa
08-21-2018, 08:49 PM
I insist, to me she seems Italian.

double meh

Latinus
08-21-2018, 08:54 PM
They look nothing alike.



If you think this mestiza looks Spanish, then you have no idea how Spanish look
https://assets.teenvogue.com/photos/5a0a2a896f80017946efe405/master/pass/camila-cabello-tout.jpg

I insist, to me she seems Italian.

Typical Spaniards: Mane de La Parra, Eduardo Noriega and Paz Vega, right?
Not saying she is typical Spanish. I'm saying she pass in Spain.
CV, you (and many people in this forum) forget one thing: the average person doesn't go around analyzing facial features.
As long as you don't look very diferent from the native population of a certain country , you can pass there.

Latinus
08-21-2018, 08:59 PM
Btw, most mestizos are part Iberian. Why would they look more Italian?

Cristiano viejo
08-21-2018, 09:11 PM
Not saying she is typical Spanish. I'm saying she pass in Spain.

She does not. The day you come to Spain you will check yourself.


Btw, most mestizos are part Iberian. Why would they look more Italian?

For the same reason that USA mulatos look more like Australian aborigenes than Anglos, although they are part Anglo.

Heather Duval
08-21-2018, 09:31 PM
She does not. The day you come to Spain you will check yourself.



For the same reason that USA mulatos look more like Australian aborigenes than Anglos, although they are part Anglo.

Angolans werent brought to the USA lol

Latinus
08-21-2018, 09:34 PM
Angolans werent brought to the USA lol

He said Anglos, not Angolans, lol.

Heather Duval
08-21-2018, 09:40 PM
He said Anglos, not Angolans, lol.

Makes less sense then

Heather Duval
08-21-2018, 09:48 PM
Tinashe is half white and she looks like a black version of her white mother.
https://files.incrivel.club/files/news/part_31/317910/10425460-15902760-45hgtgbd4-0-1507023802-1507023809-650-1-1507023809-650-e50d9a0233-1507304974.jpg

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/ce/6e/aa/ce6eaa327fee3d269f6bdf26a01c1f69.jpg


She looks nothing like Aboriginals
https://cdn5.img.sputniknews.com/images/102676/06/1026760676.jpg

Heather Duval
08-21-2018, 09:51 PM
Alicia Keys looks a lot like her mother
https://atlantablackstar.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/alicia-keys-and-mom.jpg

Halle Berry and her mom

http://ilosm.cdnize.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/Screen-Shot-2017-08-10-at-10.37.26-AM.png

CommonSense
08-21-2018, 10:14 PM
She can pass in Spain, unless Viejo sees her

Sikeliot
08-21-2018, 10:16 PM
She looks neither Spanish nor Italian but a New World mixed person.

Tooting Carmen
08-21-2018, 10:20 PM
She looks neither Spanish nor Italian but a New World mixed person.

I'd say in some photos she could pass, but in others no way.

Latinus
08-21-2018, 10:22 PM
She looks neither Spanish nor Italian but a New World mixed person.

She looks mixed, what she is. But it's one of those phenotypes that look closer to Spanish than Amerindian.
And since the average Spaniard is not an anthroperson and many (not saying the majority) can look pseudo "latino(a)", I don't see why she couldn't pass in Iberia.
Again: not saying they are the majority, but I have seen many Southern Euros that would be classifed as castizo if they were born in Latin America.

Tooting Carmen
08-21-2018, 10:24 PM
She looks mixed, what she is. But it's one of those phenotypes that look closer to Spanish than Amerindian.
And since the average Spaniard is not an anthroperson and many (not saying the majority) can look pseudo "latino(a)", I don't see why she couldn't pass in Iberia.
Again: not saying they are the majority, but I have seen many Southern Euros that would be classifed as castizo if they were born in Latin America.

True. Still, there's something 'off' about Cabello - eyes and cheeks I think.

Heather Duval
08-21-2018, 10:26 PM
She looks mixed, what she is. But it's one of those phenotypes that look closer to Spanish than Amerindian.
And since the average Spaniard is not an anthroperson and many (not saying the majority) can look pseudo "latino(a)", I don't see why she couldn't pass in Iberia.
Again: not saying they are the majority, but I have seen many Southern Euros that would be classifed as castizo if they were born in Latin America.

Shed be white in latam

GreentheViper
08-21-2018, 10:30 PM
Yeah, but she does look like she has Amerindian ancestry.

Lightshade25
08-21-2018, 10:32 PM
I guess she can pass. She's pretty hot.

Lucas Rodrigues
08-21-2018, 10:35 PM
To me she does not pass in Spain, she looks Amerindian influenced.

Isn't she castiza?
I am sure she cannot pass in Galicia.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180821/086d8dc13134319fc75127a12c1d10dd.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180821/b3006d4e57d16e5f4e9f1e44b70c2391.jpg

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Cristiano viejo
08-21-2018, 10:39 PM
Makes less sense then

Less sense? mulatos are Anglo in part, and still they dont look Anglo at all.

Latinus
08-21-2018, 10:42 PM
Because SSA genes are dominant, much more than Amerindian. It takes longer to dilute SSA traits than Amerindian.

Cristiano viejo
08-21-2018, 10:43 PM
Because SSA genes are dominant, much more than Amerindian. It takes longer to dilute SSA traits than Amerindian.
Is not this girl Cuban? for sure she has SSA genes.

Latinus
08-21-2018, 10:44 PM
Is not this girl Cuban? for sure she has SSA genes.

She has Mexican and Cuban ancestry.

Cristiano viejo
08-21-2018, 10:46 PM
She has Mexican and Cuban ancestry.

So it is more than probably taking account her look, she has SSA genes.
And yet you say he passes in Spain :lol:

Latinus
08-21-2018, 10:48 PM
So it is more than probably taking account her look, she has SSA genes.
And yet you say he passes in Spain :lol:

She doesn't show SSA in her phenotype.

Heather Duval
08-21-2018, 10:54 PM
This Cuban looks Iberian too
Scored 12% SSA

https://youtu.be/XDM5XG8IESc

Cristiano viejo
08-21-2018, 10:54 PM
She doesn't show SSA in her phenotype.

Yes, she does
https://assets.teenvogue.com/photos/5a0a2a896f80017946efe405/master/pass/camila-cabello-tout.jpg

http://www.laprensa.hn/csp/mediapool/sites/dt.common.streams.StreamServer.cls?STREAMOID=v7td$ z4wWE_Dp1flynTpPc$daE2N3K4ZzOUsqbU5sYv0Tiw6GGIFlD$ uQUp_Jcys6FB40xiOfUoExWL3M40tfzssyZqpeG_J0TFo7ZhRa DiHC9oxmioMlYVJD0A$3RbIiibgT65kY_CSDiCiUzvHvODrHAp bd6ry6YGl5GGOZrs-&CONTENTTYPE=image/jpeg


This Cuban looks Iberian too
Scored 12% SSA


Only in your sick mind.

Chaos One
08-21-2018, 11:03 PM
Nothing against you CV or any other user, but some guys here say that I've SSA traits (although never saying what are those traits, anyway) and I stayed like 1 week in Madrid passing as native all the time. Heck, even Sikeliot classified me as Portuguese.

Yet, I'm 10% SSA, 7% Amerindian, 4% South Asian, 1% East Asian. Having this or that can change your taxonomy a lot or not. There's no rule.

Xacal
08-21-2018, 11:10 PM
She is 0% SSA
her cuban mother looks white
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/fifthharmony/images/e/e4/Camilamom.png/revision/latest?cb=20121228083409
mexican father is mestizo
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/9c/93/bc/9c93bcf74883e83e9167f95cc629e4ab.jpg

Sikeliot
08-21-2018, 11:12 PM
She is 0% SSA
her cuban mother looks white
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/fifthharmony/images/e/e4/Camilamom.png/revision/latest?cb=20121228083409


Doesn't mean she doesn't have African in her though. She very well might.

Latinus
08-21-2018, 11:14 PM
Yes, she does
https://assets.teenvogue.com/photos/5a0a2a896f80017946efe405/master/pass/camila-cabello-tout.jpg

http://www.laprensa.hn/csp/mediapool/sites/dt.common.streams.StreamServer.cls?STREAMOID=v7td$ z4wWE_Dp1flynTpPc$daE2N3K4ZzOUsqbU5sYv0Tiw6GGIFlD$ uQUp_Jcys6FB40xiOfUoExWL3M40tfzssyZqpeG_J0TFo7ZhRa DiHC9oxmioMlYVJD0A$3RbIiibgT65kY_CSDiCiUzvHvODrHAp bd6ry6YGl5GGOZrs-&CONTENTTYPE=image/jpeg



Only in your sick mind.

I don't see it:
http://assets.papelpop.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/camila-cabello-2-500x807.jpg

She fits in the West Coast Mexican-American community, which doesn't show SSA traits.

The Blade
08-21-2018, 11:14 PM
Amerindian influenced. Non-existent type in Spain.

Xacal
08-21-2018, 11:15 PM
Doesn't mean she doesn't have African in her though. She very well might.

phonotypically, i meant

Damião de Góis
08-21-2018, 11:15 PM
Heck, even Sikeliot classified me as Portuguese.


That usually means you don't look portuguese. Try getting that from a poster that is actually from Portugal.

Latinus
08-21-2018, 11:17 PM
Her dad looks Greek/Southern Italian/Iberian to me:
https://akns-images.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/2018012/rs_1024x759-180112064035-1024.Camila-Cabello-Instagram-Little-Sister-Father-01122018.jpg?fit=inside|900:auto&output-quality=90

Latinus
08-21-2018, 11:18 PM
Amerindian influenced. Non-existent type in Spain.

But pseudo Amerindian features do exist in Spain. I have seen some Spanish Baques showing these traits.

Heather Duval
08-21-2018, 11:24 PM
Her dad looks Greek/Southern Italian/Iberian to me:
https://akns-images.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/2018012/rs_1024x759-180112064035-1024.Camila-Cabello-Instagram-Little-Sister-Father-01122018.jpg?fit=inside|900:auto&output-quality=90

Lol
Her Cuban mother is the one who looks white
Hes too swarthy
https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSF5LxM2C3uMmw-vPpyaogMWDgVhuJrmOIGaIL4yqOHImwYFLLLFLOKuRmc

Cristiano viejo
08-21-2018, 11:24 PM
But pseudo Amerindian features do exist in Spain.
Only in your hot mind.

Cristiano viejo
08-21-2018, 11:25 PM
Nothing against you CV or any other user, but some guys here say that I've SSA traits (although never saying what are those traits, anyway) and I stayed like 1 week in Madrid passing as native all the time.

hahahahahahaha... man, only in Apricity :laugh2:

Latinus
08-21-2018, 11:28 PM
Lol
Her Cuban mother is the one who looks white
Hes too swarthy
https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSF5LxM2C3uMmw-vPpyaogMWDgVhuJrmOIGaIL4yqOHImwYFLLLFLOKuRmc

He has a great tanning ability, just that.

Chaos One
08-21-2018, 11:28 PM
That usually means you don't look portuguese. Try getting that from a poster that is actually from Portugal.

Well, I don't think I look Portuguese anyway. But this doesn't means someone can think like that. My mother in law thinks I look like one too. There's no proper rule about it, except when it's obviously obnoxious.

Heather Duval
08-21-2018, 11:29 PM
She is 0% SSA
her cuban mother looks white
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/fifthharmony/images/e/e4/Camilamom.png/revision/latest?cb=20121228083409
mexican father is mestizo
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/9c/93/bc/9c93bcf74883e83e9167f95cc629e4ab.jpg

Did u tested her mom by your naked eye?

Latinus
08-21-2018, 11:30 PM
Only in your hot mind.

Nope, there are and you know that. The same way you have pseudo mongoloid types in Northern Europe, there are pseudo levantine/castizo types in Southern Europe.
Dude, every population has it's share of exotic/borderline people, nothing wrong with that.

Chaos One
08-21-2018, 11:30 PM
hahahahahahaha... man, only in Apricity :laugh2:

No, only in real life. Like it or not. lol

In Apricity people think there's a pattern. Like everyone goes on the street doing taxonomy analysis.

Latinus
08-21-2018, 11:34 PM
No, only in real life. Like it or not. lol

In Apricity people think there's a pattern. Like everyone goes on the street doing taxonomy analysis.

There was a "genius" called Montanini in Forum Biodiversity saying Anahi, Mexican actress/singer, is "off-white" and couldn't pass in Southern Europe, lol.
He even said that as a Brazilian he knows who is white or not (he talks like the average person here is an anthroperson).

Cristiano viejo
08-21-2018, 11:36 PM
No, only in real life. Like it or not. lol

In Apricity people think there's a pattern. Like everyone goes on the street doing taxonomy analysis.

You are living a dream if you think people in Madrid thought you were ethnic Spaniard :D

Chaos One
08-21-2018, 11:37 PM
There was a "genius" called Montanini in Forum Biodiversity saying Anahi, Mexican actress/singer, is "off-white" and couldn't pass in Southern Europe, lol.
He even said that as a Brazilian he knows who is white or not (he talks like the average person here is an anthroperson).

He's probably the Walter Mercado of taxonomy. You call him and he makes your genetic setup just by looking. Like those Facebook apps where you put a pic and they define where you were born.

Cristiano viejo
08-21-2018, 11:37 PM
Nope, there are and you know that. The same way you have pseudo mongoloid types in Northern Europe, there are pseudo levantine/castizo types in Southern Europe.
Dude, every population has it's share of exotic/borderline people, nothing wrong with that.

No, no the same, there are people in North Europe with Mongoloid genes and appearance, but Amerindian genes dont exist among Spaniards. Same than Amerindian appearance does not exist neither.

Show me Spaniards with Amerindian appearance... if you can :laugh:

Chaos One
08-21-2018, 11:38 PM
You are living a dream if you think people in Madrid thought you were ethnic Spaniard :D

Of course I am.

Cristiano viejo
08-21-2018, 11:39 PM
Of course I am.

I knew it.

Latinus
08-21-2018, 11:44 PM
No, no the same, there are people in North Europe with Mongoloid genes and appearance, but Amerindian genes dont exist among Spaniards. Same than Amerindian appearance does not exist neither.

Show me Spaniards with Amerindian appearance... if you can :laugh:

I never said Spaniards have Amerindian genetics or appearance. I said some can display pseudo Amerindian features.
And I have seen it also on Greece. Sikeliot even posted a Greek woman that looked that came straight from a Mexican Soap Opera.

Cristiano viejo
08-21-2018, 11:45 PM
I never said Spaniards have Amerindian genetics or appearance. I said some can display pseudo Amerindian features.
And I have seen it also on Greece. Sikeliot even posted a Greek woman that looked that came straight from a Mexican Soap Opera.

:zzz

Latinus
08-21-2018, 11:46 PM
:zzz

Seriously, I don't know why that bothers so many people here. You look standard white and that's all that matters.

iheartaronsamuels
09-09-2018, 03:25 AM
There's nothing SSA about this girl. She's just a textbook castiza. Her father looks like a balanced mexican mestizo and her mother like typical white ibero-cuban. Yes her mother COULD technically have some small SSA, but I doubt it since most white cubans don't have ssa because of seggregation and also many of them can trace their whole ancestry directly to Spain

Zroota
09-09-2018, 03:30 AM
She looks neither Spanish nor Italian but a New World mixed person.
I can see her passing in Iberia personally, but she looks more Levantine than Latino.

Cristiano viejo
09-10-2018, 04:28 PM
I can see her passing in Iberia personally, but she looks more Levantine than Latino.

No, she does not pass in Iberia, are you crazy?
https://www.hola.com/imagenes/belleza/actualidad/20180410122661/camila-cabello-trucos-maquillar-ojos-caidos/0-556-986/camila-cabello-getty4-t.jpg
https://e.an.amtv.pe/espectaculos-camila-cabello-revelo-como-vivir-trastorno-obsesivo-compulsivo-n320546-624x352-465289.jpg

Zroota
09-11-2018, 12:43 AM
No, she does not pass in Iberia, are you crazy?
https://www.hola.com/imagenes/belleza/actualidad/20180410122661/camila-cabello-trucos-maquillar-ojos-caidos/0-556-986/camila-cabello-getty4-t.jpg
https://e.an.amtv.pe/espectaculos-camila-cabello-revelo-como-vivir-trastorno-obsesivo-compulsivo-n320546-624x352-465289.jpg
Well, in these pictures she doesn't. I never said that she can fully pass in Iberia anyway.

Gründig
09-11-2018, 12:46 AM
of course she can.

RenaRyuguu
10-05-2019, 05:19 AM
no she's a Havana Brown Cat

Birth Name: Karla Camila Cabello Estrabao

Place of Birth: Cojímar, Eastern Havana, Cuba

Date of Birth: March 3, 1997

Ethnicity: Cuban, Mexican

Trouble
10-05-2019, 05:45 AM
Nope nor can most Cubans/Mexicans.

chociprasa
10-05-2019, 01:50 PM
No. Looks like a sudaca.

dududud
10-05-2019, 02:01 PM
No. Looks mestizo to me. Anglo-saxon people don't know how looks like Spaniard in general, seem to be. Like they don't know how looks like the Frog.

Adamastor
10-05-2019, 02:07 PM
She can pass in Southern Europe as a whole imo. Anthrotards are complete retards, if one posted someone who look exactly the same but happened to be Iberian they would be doing all kinds of mental gymnastics to justify that she is not ''exotic''.

There are Europeans who post here that are even more exotic than Camila Cabello, if they were Latin Americans they for sure would be classified as Mestizos, Pardos etc.

Camila Cabello's main ancestry seems to be European, so that's what she can pass better outside Latin America. Her Mexican father looks Castizo or Harnizo and her Cuban mother looks White. She's likely 80%+ European.

Smaug
10-05-2019, 02:10 PM
Yes. Very Iberian face, she looks like Penelope Cruz.

MinervaItalica
10-05-2019, 02:12 PM
Yes, 100%.

blueeyes
10-05-2019, 02:18 PM
Yes. Distinctive Spanish face.

Tooting Carmen
10-05-2019, 02:21 PM
She actually resembles Salma Hayek more than Penelope Cruz.

Latinus
10-05-2019, 06:39 PM
She can pass in Southern Europe as a whole imo. Anthrotards are complete retards, if one posted someone who look exactly the same but happened to be Iberian they would be doing all kinds of mental gymnastics to justify that she is not ''exotic''.

There are Europeans who post here that are even more exotic than Camila Cabello, if they were Latin Americans they for sure would be classified as Mestizos, Pardos etc.

Camila Cabello's main ancestry seems to be European, so that's what she can pass better outside Latin America. Her Mexican father looks Castizo or Harnizo and her Cuban mother looks White. She's likely 80%+ European.That makes me question... some phenotypes we, "natives" from Latin America, perceive as mixed race might just be exotic "Southern Europeans".

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Tooting Carmen
10-05-2019, 06:40 PM
That makes me question... some phenotypes we, "natives" from Latin America, perceive as mixed race might just be exotic "Southern Europeans"

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I've been saying that for years...

Xacal
10-05-2019, 06:40 PM
she looks like spanish singer Rosalía

Tenma de Pegasus
10-05-2019, 06:50 PM
That makes me question... some phenotypes we, "natives" from Latin America, perceive as mixed race might just be exotic "Southern Europeans".

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Agreed

Marcos Palmeira and Tite are perceived as pardos, but their parents are all white.

Tenma de Pegasus
10-05-2019, 06:51 PM
Many people from Spain, Italy and many others med countries look like Camila Cabello.

Adamastor
10-05-2019, 06:53 PM
That makes me question... some phenotypes we, "natives" from Latin America, perceive as mixed race might just be exotic "Southern Europeans".

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After reading more about genetics and anthropology and travelling abroad there are many people that I used to see as Pardos that now I see as Whites or predominantly White.

At least in the case of Brazil (I don't know much about other LA countries), a country where there's the widespread myth that people make themselves whiter than they are, I see a pattern of many people who have predominantly European phenotypes being labeled as pardos.

I think the mislabel actually go both ways: people who are actually very mixed but light-skinned saying they are white and people with European or predominantly European phenotypes but swarthy skin tones being labeled as pardos.

If we take out the incorrections (light-skinned pardos self-declaring as whites and people with predominantly european phenotypes declaring as pardos), I think the number of predominantly Europeans in Brazil is really around 45-47% as the census show and genetic studies seem to confirm.

That may explain why many ''white'' Brazilians are below 70% European + MENA and many ''pardos'' are above 80% and even 90% in some cases.

Joso
10-05-2019, 06:54 PM
Of course not, she is too white for that.

Latinus
10-05-2019, 06:55 PM
she looks like spanish singer RosalíaRosalía, another good example of a Southern European individual that would be perceived as impassable in Europe if she was a Latin American of fully or partial colonial roots.

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Joso
10-05-2019, 07:01 PM
After reading more about genetics and anthropology and travelling abroad there are many people that I used to see as Pardos that now I see as Whites or predominantly White.

At least in the case of Brazil (I don't know much about other LA countries), a country where there's the widespread myth that people make themselves whiter than they are, I see a pattern of many people who have predominantly European phenotypes being labeled as pardos.

I think the mislabel actually go both ways: people who are actually very mixed but light-skinned saying they are white and people with European or predominantly European phenotypes but swarthy skin tones being labeled as pardos.

If we take out the incorrections (light-skinned pardos self-declaring as whites and people with predominantly european phenotypes declaring as pardos), I think the number of predominantly Europeans in Brazil is really around 45-47% as the census show and genetic studies seem to confirm.

That may explain why many ''white'' Brazilians are below 70% European + MENA and many ''pardos'' are above 80% and even 90% in some cases.

Actually that just shows that Spaniards and Portuguese are not white and nobody views them as such

Latinus
10-05-2019, 07:09 PM
Agreed

Marcos Palmeira and Tite are perceived as pardos, but their parents are all white.Like Ivete Sangalo, for example, she looks Atlanto-Med, in my opinion, but something about her skin colour + facial vibe makes me think she is not "white", but a Pred-Euro Brazilian. The "problem" is that her SSA and Amerindian admixture is extremely small (not even 1%, individually speaking), so, I find it impossible to believe that her "Brazilian vibe" (at least in my opinion) comes from her non-Euro admixture.
Her father is a Spaniard from Galicia, while her mother is a colonial Brazilian from Bahia.

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Cristiano viejo
10-06-2019, 12:31 AM
Rosalía, another good example of a Southern European individual that would be perceived as impassable in Europe if she was a Latin American of fully or partial colonial roots.

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Not true, Rosalía looks Spanish. One of us.

Latinus
10-06-2019, 07:12 PM
Not true, Rosalía looks Spanish. One of us.She is Spanish and looks like one, yes.
I didn't express myself properly, sorry, I mean some anthrotards would say she can't pass in Europe if she was a colonial or half colonial Latina, and her phenotype is common south of Rio Grande, a type that might be perceived as non-white by many people.

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Cristiano viejo
10-06-2019, 10:21 PM
She is Spanish and looks like one, yes.
I didn't express myself properly, sorry, I mean some anthrotards would say she can't pass in Europe if she was a colonial or half colonial Latina, and her phenotype is common south of Rio Grande, a type that might be perceived as non-white by many people.



I dont care if she passes as whatever, she is Spanish, looks like one (even if not the most common type) and that is all what matters for me.
I am not interested if this or that Spanish passes in let say Poland.

Latinus
10-06-2019, 10:24 PM
I dont care if she passes as whatever, she is Spanish, looks like one (even if not the most common type) and that is all what matters for me.
I am not interested if this or that Spanish passes in let say Poland.You're right.
But if she was a Latina some people would say she can't pass in Spain, or doesn't look Spanish. Some phenotypes are perceived diferently depending on their birthplace.

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Roy
10-06-2019, 10:34 PM
Yes, she looks typical for Spain, I don't see anything Amerindian about her either.

RanselBaar
10-06-2019, 10:40 PM
Omg of course. She's obviously white... Unless your definition of white is a british walking tomatoe

Latinus
10-06-2019, 10:41 PM
Yes, she looks typical for Spain, I don't see anything Amerindian about her either.

Which make sense, she is an ethnic Spaniard from Spain.

Latinus
10-06-2019, 10:42 PM
Omg of course. She's obviously white... Unless your definition of white is a british walking tomatoe

If you tan, you're not white.
Just joking.

Cristiano viejo
10-06-2019, 10:43 PM
Which make sense, she is an ethnic Spaniard from Spain.

Camilla Cabello??

Latinus
10-06-2019, 10:47 PM
Camilla Cabello??

No, Rosália. I confused myself, Roy was talking about Camila Cabello, but I had Rosália in mind.

Cristiano viejo
10-06-2019, 10:58 PM
No, Rosália. I confused myself, Roy was talking about Camila Cabello, but I had Rosália in mind.

with Rosalía happens something similar than with Penélope Cruz. People are accustomed to see them with makeup and ultra painted.
Real life is different
https://paulaglam.es/realidad-vs-instagram-rosalia-como-no-la-habias-visto-nunca/

KingOf
10-06-2019, 11:16 PM
She can pass in Southern Europe as a whole imo. Anthrotards are complete retards, if one posted someone who look exactly the same but happened to be Iberian they would be doing all kinds of mental gymnastics to justify that she is not ''exotic''.

There are Europeans who post here that are even more exotic than Camila Cabello, if they were Latin Americans they for sure would be classified as Mestizos, Pardos etc.

Camila Cabello's main ancestry seems to be European, so that's what she can pass better outside Latin America. Her Mexican father looks Castizo or Harnizo and her Cuban mother looks White. She's likely 80%+ European.

Looks foreign... for Southeast at least.

KingOf
10-06-2019, 11:26 PM
Lol at New Worlders saying she is typical for Iberia...
People from Europe can see in this video that she has obvious foreign features... Penelope Cruz similarity is superficial mostly
Good luck finding women like her in Spain.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HErsxLdCw9M

Adamastor
10-06-2019, 11:43 PM
Lol at New Worlders saying she is typical for Iberia...
People from Europe can see in this video that she has obvious foreign features... Penelope Cruz similarity is superficial mostly
Good luck finding women like her in Spain.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HErsxLdCw9M

She looks much more mixed in this video. But I can PM you at least 3 users from Southeastern Europe who look even less white than her (I'm not talking about anyone in public).
Dude, some users from Balkans that I've seen in this forum would be perceived as mixed-race/pardos by 90%+ of the people where I live.

And I'm not saying this for any agenda, I don't care about stuff like who's whiter and similar lunacies.

KingOf
10-06-2019, 11:48 PM
She looks much more mixed in this video. But I can PM you at least 3 users from Southeastern Europe who look even less white than her (I'm not talking about anyone in public).
Dude, some users from Balkans that I've seen in this forum would be perceived as mixed-race/pardos by 90%+ of the people where I live.

And I'm not saying this for any agenda, I don't care about stuff like who's whiter and similar lunacies.

PM them and i will comment.

Cristiano viejo
10-06-2019, 11:55 PM
She looks much more mixed in this video. But I can PM you at least 3 users from Southeastern Europe who look even less white than her (I'm not talking about anyone in public).
Dude, some users from Balkans that I've seen in this forum would be perceived as mixed-race/pardos by 90%+ of the people where I live.

And I'm not saying this for any agenda, I don't care about stuff like who's whiter and similar lunacies.
PM them and i will comment.

IrisSelene
10-07-2019, 12:18 AM
She looks much more mixed in this video. But I can PM you at least 3 users from Southeastern Europe who look even less white than her (I'm not talking about anyone in public).
Dude, some users from Balkans that I've seen in this forum would be perceived as mixed-race/pardos by 90%+ of the people where I live.

And I'm not saying this for any agenda, I don't care about stuff like who's whiter and similar lunacies.You can't leave us on this cliffhanger

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Dna8
10-07-2019, 12:29 AM
I feel that "chance" is the pivotal word in the title of the opening post.

Were I a little bit taller, I might conceivably step across over from Africa to Iberia..

The lass has a chance, no less, no more, in my opinion.

Trouble
10-07-2019, 12:31 AM
I feel that "chance" is the pivotal word in the title of the opening post.

Were I a little bit taller, I might conceivably step across over from Africa to Iberia..

The lass has a chance, no less, no more, in my opinion.

You think she has a poor chance of passing...?

Dna8
10-07-2019, 12:33 AM
You think she has a poor chance of passing...?

For a certainty, she can pass.

Apologies, my wording was poor.

CostaRicaBall
10-07-2019, 12:34 AM
Yes, as gipsy. Jajajaja. She display some non-euro admixture in her jaw.

Zroota
10-07-2019, 01:00 AM
Lol at New Worlders saying she is typical for Iberia...
People from Europe can see in this video that she has obvious foreign features... Penelope Cruz similarity is superficial mostly
Good luck finding women like her in Spain.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HErsxLdCw9M
Definitely looks non-European here.

RanselBaar
10-11-2019, 09:52 PM
Lol at New Worlders saying she is typical for Iberia...
People from Europe can see in this video that she has obvious foreign features... Penelope Cruz similarity is superficial mostly
Good luck finding women like her in Spain.


I dont't need a greek telling me what will I find in this country or saying who looks more euro than who, OMG, PLEASE!! it's pathetic coming from a greek and if you are a true one you will know deep in you soul why.

She doesnt look mixed and you'll find thousands of girls like her, if you ever earn enough to visit my country.

https://lamaisondelcabello.es/blog/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/2019-festival-cine-malaga-macarena-garcia.jpg
https://assets.teenvogue.com/photos/58e80113958c426c35e42604/master/w_2120,h_3000,c_limit/GettyImages-168687375_master.jpg
http://construccionyrehabilitacion.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/3-arquitectas-influyentes-1-1200x675.jpg
https://e00-elmundo.uecdn.es/assets/multimedia/imagenes/2017/01/24/14852759224489.jpg

Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas
10-11-2019, 10:13 PM
She could pass judging by the photos posted on the first post. In Portugal too.

KingOf
10-11-2019, 10:14 PM
I dont't need a greek telling me what will I find in this country or saying who looks more euro than who, OMG, PLEASE!! it's pathetic coming from a greek and if you are a true one you will know deep in you soul why.

She doesnt look mixed and you'll find thousands of girls like her, if you ever earn enough to visit my country.

OK it is obvious you are a fangirl.
I wasn't interested in visiting Spain but now that you say thousands of Camillas exist i kinda changed my mind.

Latinus
10-11-2019, 10:31 PM
I dont't need a greek telling me what will I find in this country or saying who looks more euro than who, OMG, PLEASE!! it's pathetic coming from a greek and if you are a true one you will know deep in you soul why.

She doesnt look mixed and you'll find thousands of girls like her, if you ever earn enough to visit my country.

https://lamaisondelcabello.es/blog/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/2019-festival-cine-malaga-macarena-garcia.jpg
https://assets.teenvogue.com/photos/58e80113958c426c35e42604/master/w_2120,h_3000,c_limit/GettyImages-168687375_master.jpg
http://construccionyrehabilitacion.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/3-arquitectas-influyentes-1-1200x675.jpg
https://e00-elmundo.uecdn.es/assets/multimedia/imagenes/2017/01/24/14852759224489.jpgPass easily judging by these last pics you posted, in fact, looks more common for Spain/Southern Europe than those Central-Northern Euro types some users from there love to post.



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glambutera
10-11-2019, 11:26 PM
Who cares
She is ugly

Cristiano viejo
10-13-2019, 06:30 PM
I dont't need a greek telling me what will I find in this country or saying who looks more euro than who, OMG, PLEASE!! it's pathetic coming from a greek and if you are a true one you will know deep in you soul why.

She doesnt look mixed and you'll find thousands of girls like her, if you ever earn enough to visit my country.

Yes she does look mixed, and a lot, and she looks nothing like these women that you have posted.


Only a blind could think she looks like Macarena García
https://s.libertaddigital.com/2018/04/24/macarenagarcia-304.jpg

And I am not Greek.

dankman
10-13-2019, 10:53 PM
She could pass easily as a spaniard and in south europe in general.

Cristiano viejo
10-13-2019, 11:17 PM
She could pass easily as a spaniard and in south europe in general.

You wish.

alnortedelsur
10-16-2019, 03:28 AM
Probably in Canary Isles

RanselBaar
10-19-2019, 10:13 AM
Yes she does look mixed, and a lot, and she looks nothing like these women that you have posted.


Only a blind could think she looks like Macarena García
https://s.libertaddigital.com/2018/04/24/macarenagarcia-304.jpg

And I am not Greek.

I dont know what you are, but just in case, having a passport doesnt make you spanish, even cows can come in Spain with a passport.
She looks spanish ya te digo yo a ti que si cabron hijo de puta

Cristiano viejo
10-19-2019, 02:35 PM
I dont know what you are, but just in case, having a passport doesnt make you spanish, even cows can come in Spain with a passport.
She looks spanish ya te digo yo a ti que si cabron hijo de puta

Quizá en tu Andalucía natal. No así en Castilla y León.

Debes de ser gitano o algo parecido para decir que esa mulata pasa en España como nativa.

Kamal900
10-19-2019, 02:36 PM
Maybe, but for me she passes better in Southern Italy and even the Levant.

Duffmannn
10-19-2019, 02:57 PM
Nope

RanselBaar
10-19-2019, 03:10 PM
Quizá en tu Andalucía natal. No así en Castilla y León.

Debes de ser gitano o algo parecido para decir que esa mulata pasa en España como nativa.

1.)Para empezar soy mujer, mi nombre de usuario es de un Anime.

2.) Soy Gallega, deberías aprender a leer, no te lo enseñaron en el país donde naciste, que estoy segura no fue España.

3.) Si hubieses nacido en España o fueses español, sabrías que Castilla la mancha es una provincia con una superficie de 70.430 kilometros cuadrados y alberga 2 millones de personas, dudo que todos sean iguales o que si quiera se parezcan a ti, a menos claro que vengas de un pueblo donde se follaban entre primos, entonces eres un pueblerino que no sabe nada de nada.

4.) Andalucia es la provincia mas rica y culturalmente diversa de España.

5.) Estoy segura que los gitanos llevan mas tiempo en España que tu y toda tu familia, o al menos alguna parte de tu familia. (Es mas)

6.) Ahora te doy permiso de ir a sobarte la pichilla mientras te consuelas sabiendo que eres "español de castilla la mancha" JAJAJAJAJA POR FAVOOOR

Ruggery
10-20-2019, 12:08 AM
They look nothing alike.



If you think this mestiza looks Spanish, then you have no idea how Spanish look
https://assets.teenvogue.com/photos/5a0a2a896f80017946efe405/master/pass/camila-cabello-tout.jpg

I insist, to me she seems Italian.

Un español se ve asi? XD
https://www.ancient-origins.es/sites/default/files/field/image/Portada-Ragnar-Lothbrok.jpg

alnortedelsur
10-20-2019, 12:17 AM
Un español se ve asi? XD
https://www.ancient-origins.es/sites/default/files/field/image/Portada-Ragnar-Lothbrok.jpg

El promedio no son asi (aunque si existen, y no son precisamente poco comunes), pero tampoco como Camila Cabello.

Adamastor
10-20-2019, 12:19 AM
El promedio no son asi (aunque si existen, y no son precisamente poco comunes), pero tampoco como Camila Cabello.

But who said Camila Cabello looks typical Spanish? The question is if she has any chance of passing, not if she looks the most typical Spaniard.

Also, the Iberian members who don't have racist/whitewashing agendas agreed she can pass. I think their opinions are more trustable than CV.

alnortedelsur
10-20-2019, 12:32 AM
But who said Camila Cabello looks typical Spanish? The question is if she has any chance of passing, not if she looks the most typical Spaniard.

Also, the Iberian members who don't have racist/whitewashing agendas agreed she can pass. I think their opinions are more trustable than CV.

I said she could probably pass into the most exotic spectrum, like as Canarian, more likely.

Gallop
10-20-2019, 12:53 AM
It is a complicated issue because from what you see sensitivities are hurt, but it's not about that but rather about being honest. I see her as the type of people with a mixture that, depending on the age of her life in which her genes are, make her change her appearance and now she seems more passable than younger, but still she has other airs and we would see her something more exotic. It would happen a lot but not quite. That nobody is offended, you can come to Spain whenever you want, it will be well received.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR6TqsWQ5iW4MWzsBAPLrqoEx_4enRb_ AlFQmcWVhaRapPKj7C1
In this photo I would see her more her American mix

https://okdiario.com/img/2019/07/25/camila-cabello-habla-de-su-pasado-655x368.jpg
In this image I would be more confused, I would possibly think of some country in Europe.

https://www.elnacional.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/Camila-Cabello-Foto-Getty-Images.jpg
Here I recognize her much more, I find her more Spanish.

https://studiosol-a.akamaihd.net/uploadfile/letras/fotos/3/5/6/f/356fcf7e87226f81621e34e99a4be62f.jpg
In this one I find it more exotic, I would think that he is an interracial person

I think that its mixing ratio makes it be in the middle and according to their ages or times of their life their appearance will look different. I think it is chameleonic.

Latinus
10-20-2019, 01:08 AM
Guys, please, write in English, this is not the Hispanic forums.

AWYS
10-20-2019, 04:16 AM
She can somewhat pass in Spain

Laag
10-20-2019, 05:36 AM
Yes of course. Why not?

Ruggery
10-20-2019, 10:58 PM
El promedio no son asi (aunque si existen, y no son precisamente poco comunes), pero tampoco como Camila Cabello.

Exacto como vos los dijiste existe pero no es el promedio, Camila tampoco es el promedio pero personas como ella pueden existir en España por ejemplo Penelope Cruz me parece que tienen una cara similar al de Camila, ademas creo que uno de los padres de Camila es cubano/español.

Ruggery
10-20-2019, 10:59 PM
But who said Camila Cabello looks typical Spanish? The question is if she has any chance of passing, not if she looks the most typical Spaniard.

Also, the Iberian members who don't have racist/whitewashing agendas agreed she can pass. I think their opinions are more trustable than CV.

CV sins of being an egocentric and troll.

Cristiano viejo
10-20-2019, 11:08 PM
1.)Para empezar soy mujer, mi nombre de usuario es de un Anime.

2.) Soy Gallega, deberías aprender a leer, no te lo enseñaron en el país donde naciste, que estoy segura no fue España.

3.) Si hubieses nacido en España o fueses español, sabrías que Castilla la mancha es una provincia con una superficie de 70.430 kilometros cuadrados y alberga 2 millones de personas, dudo que todos sean iguales o que si quiera se parezcan a ti, a menos claro que vengas de un pueblo donde se follaban entre primos, entonces eres un pueblerino que no sabe nada de nada.

4.) Andalucia es la provincia mas rica y culturalmente diversa de España.

5.) Estoy segura que los gitanos llevan mas tiempo en España que tu y toda tu familia, o al menos alguna parte de tu familia. (Es mas)

6.) Ahora te doy permiso de ir a sobarte la pichilla mientras te consuelas sabiendo que eres "español de castilla la mancha" JAJAJAJAJA POR FAVOOOR
¿De dónde sacas que soy de Castilla la Mancha, gitanilla? :lol:


Yes of course. Why not?

Because Spaniards dont look triracial, that is why not.

IrisSelene
10-21-2019, 09:19 AM
¿De dónde sacas que soy de Castilla la Mancha, gitanilla? [emoji38]



Because Spaniards dont look triracial, that is why not.But the ones from canary islands do look more exotic.

Look at Agoney and Ana Guerra. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191021/e286252df654d54b134e1e08833c590d.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191021/bee689a616b4ad69ba7409a015e73f48.jpg

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Latinus
10-21-2019, 01:39 PM
But the ones from canary islands do look more exotic.

Look at Agoney and Ana Guerra. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191021/e286252df654d54b134e1e08833c590d.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191021/bee689a616b4ad69ba7409a015e73f48.jpg

Enviado desde mi CLT-L09 mediante TapatalkWhat's exotic about Ana Guerra?
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IrisSelene
10-21-2019, 02:31 PM
What's exotic about Ana Guerra?
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191021/e5f2ce9351d681609376f820ac8778c9.jpg

Enviado de meu SM-G610M usando o TapatalkReally? You don't see it? I dont see women like her often around here.

I remember that when I saw her on the OT show I thought she was latina or some mix lol

I would say it's especially her mouth area that throws me off, though her eyes and nose also give me a weird vibe.

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Latinus
10-21-2019, 02:34 PM
Really? You don't see it? I dont see women like her often around here.

I remember that when I saw her on the OT show I thought she was latina or some mix lol

I would say it's especially her mouth area that throws me off, though her eyes and nose also give me a weird vibe.

Enviado desde mi CLT-L09 mediante TapatalkI don't see anything exotic judging by the pic I posted, not saying she is the most common Spanish female face, just not atypical, in my opinion.
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CostaRicaBall
10-21-2019, 08:39 PM
El promedio no son asi (aunque si existen, y no son precisamente poco comunes), pero tampoco como Camila Cabello.

Si son poco comunes. Enseñeme varios crowds donde se vean españoles asi. El opus magnus de España es gente como Iker Casillas, AuronPlay, ElRubius y así. En crowds de Catalunia verás a 1 de cada 15 españoles con esas caractéristicas(y es lo más cerca a España).

CostaRicaBall
10-21-2019, 08:40 PM
I don't see anything exotic judging by the pic I posted, not saying she is the most common Spanish female face, just not atypical, in my opinion.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191021/3816712ea6f49dfa67bc5682e5288b61.jpg

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No. She is atypical to be an spaniard. Maybe is "typical" in Canarian Islands or so.

CostaRicaBall
10-21-2019, 08:44 PM
What's exotic about Ana Guerra?
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191021/e5f2ce9351d681609376f820ac8778c9.jpg

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Distance between the eyes and nose and nostrils'shape. Those elements could fit with sudanid admixture.

Latinus
10-21-2019, 09:02 PM
Distance between the eyes and nose and nostrils'shape. Those elements could fit with sudanid admixture.

LOL, what an anthrotard!
No sane and non-anthrotard Spaniard would think she can't be Spanish.

CostaRicaBall
10-21-2019, 09:07 PM
LOL, what an anthrotard!
No sane and non-anthrotard Spaniard would think she can't be Spanish.

Lets see monkey, the same IrisSelene is saying that she is atypical in Spain, I'm explaining why and you only insult me instead explain me why she can pass as typical spaniard. But ok, spanish users can explain us if she is atypical or no in Spain and why

Latinus
10-21-2019, 09:16 PM
Lets see monkey, the same IrisSelene is saying that she is atypical in Spain, I'm explaining why and you only insult me instead explain me why she can pass as typical spaniard.

I never said she is the most typical Spaniard female face (Hispanics tend to suck at English, I noticed it). I said she pass there just fine and it's not exotic (and not being exotic is not synonymous with being the most typical face), wouldn't look off in a crowd of Spaniards, for example.

Most typical face? Not sure, I don't think so.
Exotic? Not all, at least judging by the pics I posted.
And calling me a monkey is not an insult, man, at least they don't post shit on the internet.

Ruggery
10-22-2019, 12:18 AM
Si son poco comunes. Enseñeme varios crowds donde se vean españoles asi. El opus magnus de España es gente como Iker Casillas, AuronPlay, ElRubius y así. En crowds de Catalunia verás a 1 de cada 15 españoles con esas caractéristicas(y es lo más cerca a España).

Tal ves el se refiere a españoles con características ligeras, porque los españoles que parecen vikingos o europeos del norte son muy minoritarios Xb

Latinus
10-22-2019, 12:33 AM
Tal ves el se refiere a españoles con características ligeras, porque los españoles que parecen vikingos o europeos del norte son muy minoritarios Xb

Please, write in English.

Ruggery
10-22-2019, 12:34 AM
Please, write in English.
It is already corrected :thumb001:
Perhaps he refers to Spaniards with light characteristics, because Spaniards who look like Vikings or Northern Europeans are very minority Xb

Adamastor
10-22-2019, 12:44 AM
I never said she is the most typical Spaniard female face (Hispanics tend to suck at English, I noticed it). I said she pass there just fine and it's not exotic (and not being exotic is not synonymous with being the most typical face), wouldn't look off in a crowd of Spaniards, for example.

Most typical face? Not sure, I don't think so.
Exotic? Not all, at least judging by the pics I posted.
And calling me a monkey is not an insult, man, at least they don't post shit on the internet.

I noticed that Hispanics in the anthrofora like to overstate the lightness of Spaniards because it's the only European ancestry they have and they also have completely ridiculous standards of what is white even when they are typical triracial mongrels themselves.

They are a joke, basically.

glambutera
10-22-2019, 01:10 AM
I can understand Spanish users. She is ugly as fuck. I would not claim her neither.

Latinus
10-22-2019, 01:14 AM
I can understand Spanish users. She is ugly as fuck. I would not claim her neither.

She is very bangable:
https://66.media.tumblr.com/75b3017b63873c16204444d9aede2736/tumblr_pet5muI9fe1uq2dcro1_500.jpg

glambutera
10-22-2019, 01:17 AM
She is very bangable:
https://66.media.tumblr.com/75b3017b63873c16204444d9aede2736/tumblr_pet5muI9fe1uq2dcro1_500.jpg

She looks like a duck and low class/dirty as well

https://www.famousbirthdays.com/headshots/camila-cabello-5.jpg

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcS3y4LBDdDaI2-kk1B3GjoteeJd7-sDqAKn2_vHFNsrsRLadcDo
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcQjHZ_mS2x3PsT_psFTnnKAvPzk33M KXSe7khyK4QZnUIRDCr8G

Latinus
10-22-2019, 01:22 AM
She looks like a duck and low class/dirty as well

https://www.famousbirthdays.com/headshots/camila-cabello-5.jpg

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcS3y4LBDdDaI2-kk1B3GjoteeJd7-sDqAKn2_vHFNsrsRLadcDo
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcQjHZ_mS2x3PsT_psFTnnKAvPzk33M KXSe7khyK4QZnUIRDCr8G

Facial beauty is not her strong point, yes.

alnortedelsur
10-22-2019, 05:45 AM
Si son poco comunes. Enseñeme varios crowds donde se vean españoles asi. El opus magnus de España es gente como Iker Casillas, AuronPlay, ElRubius y así. En crowds de Catalunia verás a 1 de cada 15 españoles con esas caractéristicas(y es lo más cerca a España).

Esa gente que mencionas son bastante comunes para España, y estan bien dentro de la norma, no son ningún "opus magnus" LOL

Y yo no he dicho que gente como el hombre rubio que postearon atrás son la norma ni nada de eso, pero tampoco los encuentras en la frecuencia tan baja que sugieres. Sin decir con esto que España es como el centro o norte Europa, por supuesto que no. No es ningún secreto que esos paises Europeos al norte de España tienen mas frecuencia de gente como ese hombre, pero tampoco eso significa que en España no los haiga, o que sean una excepción rarísima.

Y no se a que viene que saques Cataluña. Los Catalanes no son mas claros que el resto de los Españoles.

Latinus
10-22-2019, 05:48 AM
Some people here act like Southern Spaniards were Moors and the Northern ones British-like.
To me, Catalans look like the average Iberian stock of Brazil, which is mainly Portuguese and Spanish Andalusian/Galician.
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alnortedelsur
10-22-2019, 05:56 AM
Some people here act like Southern Spaniards were Moors and the Northern ones British-like.
To me, Catalans look like the average Iberian stock of Brazil, which is mainly Portuguese and Spanish Andalusian/Galician.
My post is directed to Alnortedelsur. Shit, Tapatalk!

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Northern Spaniards
https://www.impartialreporter.com/resources/images/7101992.jpg?display=1&htype=0&type=responsive-gallery
Southern spaniards
https://nsf.gov/news/mmg/media/images/preferred_photo.jpg

LOL

HelloGuys
10-22-2019, 06:16 AM
Quizá en tu Andalucía natal. No así en Castilla y León.

Debes de ser gitano o algo parecido para decir que esa mulata pasa en España como nativa.

En Castilla-León son más claros que el Sur? (Andalucía por ejemplo) y con diferentes rasgos?

HelloGuys
10-22-2019, 06:20 AM
El promedio no son asi (aunque si existen, y no son precisamente poco comunes), pero tampoco como Camila Cabello.

Y como ese actor "vikingo" se encuentran más en el Sur o Norte de España? O de igual manera?

alnortedelsur
10-22-2019, 06:28 AM
Y como ese actor "vikingo" se encuentran más en el Sur o Norte de España? O de igual manera?

Mas o menos por igual en cualquier parte de España. Esta lejos de ser la norma (como si lo es Iker Casillas, por ejemplo), pero tampoco son algo super fuera de lo común.

Como ya lo he mencionado anteriormente, tuve una jefa en España que era Andaluza, y parecía la hermana del mismo Donald Trump. Y no es la única Espanola que he visto así.

HelloGuys
10-22-2019, 06:36 AM
Mas o menos por igual en cualquier parte de España. Esta lejos de ser la norma (como si lo es Iker Casillas, por ejemplo), pero tampoco son algo super fuera de lo común.

Como ya lo he mencionado anteriormente, tuve una jefa en España que era Andaluza, y parecía la hermana del mismo Donald Trump. Y no es la única Espanola que he visto así.

Ah vale, bueno, es que tengo un bisabuelo que se dice era de España, y cuando pregunté en que parte de España podría pasar, de todos los que respondieron (incluidos españoles) sólo el usuario Estratagos dijo que le dio una "vibra" de ser una persona del norte (Mi bisa era muy blanco, ojos avellanas y cabello rubio) se veía muy CM y alpino; por eso me preguntaba que si España es muy homogénea como dicen, porqué al usuario español le pareció ver/sentir una vibra de español "norteño" a mi bisabuelo? Tienes alguna idea bro? Xd

alnortedelsur
10-22-2019, 08:14 PM
Ah vale, bueno, es que tengo un bisabuelo que se dice era de España, y cuando pregunté en que parte de España podría pasar, de todos los que respondieron (incluidos españoles) sólo el usuario Estratagos dijo que le dio una "vibra" de ser una persona del norte (Mi bisa era muy blanco, ojos avellanas y cabello rubio) se veía muy CM y alpino; por eso me preguntaba que si España es muy homogénea como dicen, porqué al usuario español le pareció ver/sentir una vibra de español "norteño" a mi bisabuelo? Tienes alguna idea bro? Xd

Como ya he mencionado muchas veces. España es bastante uniforme. Quizás un poco de mayor frecuencia de fenotipos claros en la mitad norte, pero no por mucha diferencia.

HelloGuys
10-22-2019, 09:48 PM
Como ya he mencionado muchas veces. España es bastante uniforme. Quizás un poco de mayor frecuencia de fenotipos claros en la mitad norte, pero no por mucha diferencia.

Arre arre; gracias bro; supongo que va a ser imposible saber de dónde pudo haber sido mi bisabuelo xddd espero que sacando un test de ADN en mi abuela y luego subirlo a Gedmatch, me dirá su origen jaja

guyinsf
10-23-2019, 02:07 AM
Is the elephant heavy?

guyinsf
10-23-2019, 02:11 AM
I said she could probably pass into the most exotic spectrum, like as Canarian, more likely.

Her features and pigmentation are very much on par with average Spaniards. She can pass with flying colors and she's extremely pleasing to the eye too!

Kamal900
10-23-2019, 02:19 AM
It is a complicated issue because from what you see sensitivities are hurt, but it's not about that but rather about being honest. I see her as the type of people with a mixture that, depending on the age of her life in which her genes are, make her change her appearance and now she seems more passable than younger, but still she has other airs and we would see her something more exotic. It would happen a lot but not quite. That nobody is offended, you can come to Spain whenever you want, it will be well received.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR6TqsWQ5iW4MWzsBAPLrqoEx_4enRb_ AlFQmcWVhaRapPKj7C1
In this photo I would see her more her American mix

https://okdiario.com/img/2019/07/25/camila-cabello-habla-de-su-pasado-655x368.jpg
In this image I would be more confused, I would possibly think of some country in Europe.

https://www.elnacional.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/Camila-Cabello-Foto-Getty-Images.jpg
Here I recognize her much more, I find her more Spanish.

https://studiosol-a.akamaihd.net/uploadfile/letras/fotos/3/5/6/f/356fcf7e87226f81621e34e99a4be62f.jpg
In this one I find it more exotic, I would think that he is an interracial person

I think that its mixing ratio makes it be in the middle and according to their ages or times of their life their appearance will look different. I think it is chameleonic.

For me, she looks more closer to an Egyptian from Alexandria than a Southern European in general.

Cristiano viejo
10-23-2019, 05:34 AM
En Castilla-León son más claros que el Sur? (Andalucía por ejemplo) y con diferentes rasgos?
No mucho, no quise decir eso. Lo que quise decir es que en Andalucía encuentras porcentualmente gente más exótica que en el resto de regiones.


Her features and pigmentation are very much on par with average Spaniards.
juajuajuaajua

IrisSelene
10-23-2019, 10:09 AM
No mucho, no quise decir eso. Lo que quise decir es que en Andalucía encuentras porcentualmente gente más exótica que en el resto de regiones.


juajuajuaajuaWhat do you think about Ana Guerra? Maybe I'm wrong in thinking she looks atypical lol

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RanselBaar
10-23-2019, 11:39 AM
Ok.

Ruggery
10-23-2019, 04:37 PM
Y como ese actor "vikingo" se encuentran más en el Sur o Norte de España? O de igual manera?

No es cualquier vikingo es Ragnar Lothbrok XD.

Cristiano viejo
10-23-2019, 06:12 PM
What do you think about Ana Guerra? Maybe I'm wrong in thinking she looks atypical lol

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who is Ana Guerra?

alnortedelsur
10-23-2019, 06:29 PM
Her features and pigmentation are very much on par with average Spaniards. She can pass with flying colors and she's extremely pleasing to the eye too!

Cool story, but nope. People like Iker Casillas, Blanca Suarez or Manuela Velasco are more representative of the Spanish average.

Exotic/romantic stereotypes about most Spaniards looking like Penelope Cruz, Inma Cuesta or even more exotic (like pseudo Puerto Rican or other stuff) are no more than stupid cliches.

Ruggery
10-23-2019, 09:43 PM
who is Ana Guerra?

Es una cantante ex-participante de OT.
https://www.mundodeportivo.com/r/GODO/MD/p6/MasQueDeporte/Imagenes/2019/04/10/Recortada/img_somartin_20190410-221556_imagenes_md_otras_fuentes_ana_guerra_2-111-kCcG-U461582368946uR-980x554@MundoDeportivo-Web.JPG

KonanxB
10-23-2019, 11:23 PM
Probably Not. And I can corroborated this with a convertion simple. She looks less euro range than me. And mayority of spaniards in Facebook Groups non-Anthrofora's can't see me in Spain.


https://youtu.be/UH5IUcpGzus


Howewer, the passage in Spain in this Forum are very overated.

Cristiano viejo
10-23-2019, 11:28 PM
Es una cantante ex-participante de OT.

Yes, she passes despite I am seeing she is Canarian. Quite typical Spanish face/features.

Dna8
10-23-2019, 11:44 PM
Will we ever let this poor woman have some peace.. by now she's probably willing to pass best in Vietnam if we would just leave her alone..

Cristiano viejo
10-24-2019, 12:11 AM
Will we ever let this poor woman have some peace.. by now she's probably willing to pass best in Vietnam if we would just leave her alone..

Peace is for losers. Do you think she passes in Serbia?

Latinus
10-24-2019, 12:15 AM
Peace is for losers. Do you think she passes in Serbia?

No, "war is for losers". The "losers" are the ones sent to die in the wars, while the "winners" (elites) stay safe in their mansions smoking a cigar.

Cristiano viejo
10-24-2019, 12:18 AM
No, "war is for losers". The "losers" are the ones sent to die in the wars, while the "winners" (elites) stay safe in their mansions smoking a cigar.
Interesting reflexion...

happycow
10-24-2019, 12:19 AM
No. Looks like a mexican

Dna8
10-24-2019, 12:20 AM
Peace is for losers. Do you think she passes in Serbia?

She is too Western looking.

Cristiano viejo
10-24-2019, 12:22 AM
She is too Western looking.

Yes, that is the problem.. Anyways her African and Amerindian influences dont affect to pass in Serbia, it seems. Turanism!

Dna8
10-24-2019, 12:26 AM
Yes, that is the problem.. Anyways her African and Amerindian influences dont affect to pass in Serbia, it seems. Turanism!

Would you agree that she passes one thousand times better in Iberia than she does in the Balkans?

Cristiano viejo
10-24-2019, 12:37 AM
Would you agree that she passes one thousand times better in Iberia than she does in the Balkans?

Depends. She has Spanish ancestry, so in that sense she passes one thousand times better here.
But also she has Amerindian ancestry. And Ameridians are Asians, so in that sense she passes one thousand times better in Balkans :noidea:

Dna8
10-24-2019, 01:00 AM
Depends. She has Spanish ancestry, so in that sense she passes one thousand times better here.
But also she has Amerindian ancestry. And Ameridians are Asians, so in that sense she passes one thousand times better in Balkans :noidea:

I mean purely in terms of her appearance or, aesthetic.

Look me in the eye when you post that she doesn't pass dramatically better in Iberia than she does in the Balkans.

Cristiano viejo
10-24-2019, 01:07 AM
I mean purely in terms of her appearance or, aesthetic.
Yes, me too.

HelloGuys
10-24-2019, 01:28 AM
Depends. She has Spanish ancestry, so in that sense she passes one thousand times better here.
But also she has Amerindian ancestry. And Ameridians are Asians, so in that sense she passes one thousand times better in Balkans :noidea:

And What about me Cristiano viejo? You told me that I could pass in Spain, but how good can I pass? Or just in some zones? (Canaries, Andalucía for example)

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?273876-Can-I-pass-in-your-country-and-which-are-my-amerindian-traits

Cristiano viejo
10-24-2019, 01:49 AM
And What about me Cristiano viejo? You told me that I could pass in Spain, but how good can I pass? Or just in some zones? (Canaries, Andalucía for example)

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?273876-Can-I-pass-in-your-country-and-which-are-my-amerindian-traits

Yes you could. Only eyes are a bit strange but nothing that we could not obviate :D

Dna8
10-24-2019, 02:30 AM
Yes, me too.


Disfruto de tu sentido del humor, amigo mío.

Cristiano viejo
10-24-2019, 06:30 PM
Disfruto de tu sentido del humor, amigo mío.

Disfrutas de mi seriedad. Con mi sentido del humor te morirías de la risa.

Dna8
10-24-2019, 09:16 PM
Disfrutas de mi seriedad. Con mi sentido del humor te morirías de la risa.

Cualquiera que sea el caso, pienso cordialmente en ti.

HelloGuys
10-24-2019, 11:15 PM
Yes you could. Only eyes are a bit strange but nothing that we could not obviate :D

That's great my friend; then I will use a sunglasses jaja... It's a pleasure that I could able to pass in your country ;)

HelloGuys
10-25-2019, 12:07 AM
Disfruto de tu sentido del humor, amigo mío.

Sabes español! :O

MobyD
11-24-2019, 07:25 PM
bump

El_Jibaro
09-05-2021, 07:29 AM
In some pictures, yes. Other ones she looks too new worlder.

mitalit
11-18-2021, 12:59 PM
Mexican Father, Cuban Mother
https://los40.com/los40/imagenes/2020/06/21/love40/1592773249_120859_1592773460_gigante_normal.jpg
https://sooluciona.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/C%C3%B3mo-se-llaman-los-padres-de-Camila-Cabello.jpg

El_Jibaro
11-18-2021, 01:34 PM
Mexican Father, Cuban Mother
https://los40.com/los40/imagenes/2020/06/21/love40/1592773249_120859_1592773460_gigante_normal.jpg
https://sooluciona.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/C%C3%B3mo-se-llaman-los-padres-de-Camila-Cabello.jpg

Mom looks Spanish. Dad looks mestizo.

She looks ambiguous ish.

Blanquito
11-18-2021, 01:54 PM
She can pass in Southern Europe as a whole imo. Anthrotards are complete retards, if one posted someone who look exactly the same but happened to be Iberian they would be doing all kinds of mental gymnastics to justify that she is not ''exotic''.

There are Europeans who post here that are even more exotic than Camila Cabello, if they were Latin Americans they for sure would be classified as Mestizos, Pardos etc.

Camila Cabello's main ancestry seems to be European, so that's what she can pass better outside Latin America. Her Mexican father looks Castizo or Harnizo and her Cuban mother looks White. She's likely 80%+ European.

This.


People like this retarded Cristiano Viejo are ridiculous... I don't know how this sub human Spaniard never been banned, he is a despicable person in every way.

guyinsf
11-19-2021, 12:18 AM
With flying colors!

Didac
11-19-2021, 02:23 AM
Not at all she looks like a south Central American immigrant. There’s a lot in Spain and Portugal now, even ufc fighter Joel Alvarez born in Spain but doesn’t look fully Spanish must have one south Central American parent came to Spain got married with a Spanish parent and had him there looks castizo.

Didac
11-19-2021, 02:29 AM
Her dad looks Greek/Southern Italian/Iberian to me:
https://akns-images.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/2018012/rs_1024x759-180112064035-1024.Camila-Cabello-Instagram-Little-Sister-Father-01122018.jpg?fit=inside|900:auto&output-quality=90


This is bc ur in Brazil ur used to these features lol he looks mixed af

Cristiano viejo
11-20-2021, 04:51 AM
Not at all she looks like a south Central American immigrant. There’s a lot in Spain and Portugal now, even ufc fighter Joel Alvarez born in Spain but doesn’t look fully Spanish must have one south Central American parent came to Spain got married with a Spanish parent and had him there looks castizo.

Joel Álvarez does not look panchito

https://cflvdg.avoz.es/sc/dy_gcK0cNcL5oOOx2gqDHQwx28M=/1280x/2020/07/24/00121595590292823489746/Foto/456.jpg

Agreed about Camila Cabello.

Roy
11-20-2021, 06:51 AM
Mom looks Spanish. Dad looks mestizo.

She looks ambiguous ish.

I agree. But I think she may pass as just Spanish, because people are more likely to notice what is familiar to them. She does not look clearly off-white anyway.

Roy
11-20-2021, 06:55 AM
She can pass in Spain, unless Viejo sees her

This is spot on! :D

Latinus
11-20-2021, 04:40 PM
This is bc ur in Brazil ur used to these features lol he looks mixed af

I take back what I said. He looks mixed, new worlder. But not super mixed, more like in the Euro-Mestizo range.

Didac
11-20-2021, 06:38 PM
Joel Álvarez does not look panchito

https://cflvdg.avoz.es/sc/dy_gcK0cNcL5oOOx2gqDHQwx28M=/1280x/2020/07/24/00121595590292823489746/Foto/456.jpg

Agreed about Camila Cabello.


Castizo personally sometimes he looks like it

Cristiano viejo
11-21-2021, 05:09 AM
Castizo personally sometimes he looks like it

Castizos are as panchitos as fully Amerindians, and this Spaniard looks what he is, a Spaniard.

Didac
11-22-2021, 06:47 PM
Castizos are as panchitos as fully Amerindians, and this Spaniard looks what he is, a Spaniard.

Mexican ufc champ who is mestizo

https://t1.gstatic.com/licensed-image?q=tbn:ANd9GcQuqjhmv1ZbjuIAaWxSnFNzWjVUJxbA60 SsgOg5vrRqlQVf2RNErwZ6PDm-Y70o

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8f/Brandon_Moreno_February_2021.jpg

https://www.overtimeheroics.net/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/F1231927-CD93-4518-B082-0EBFD338C2AB-1.jpeg

[IMG]https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/fk-U5d1hRn1dfltXFzL0cXDHRx8=/1400x1400/filters:format(jpeg)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/19528976/108_Brandon_Moreno.jpg[IMG]

And Joel

111067

placebo
11-22-2021, 07:06 PM
If she looks mestiza how can she looks Italian? CV sometimes you are really very dumbass.

Didac
11-22-2021, 07:12 PM
If she looks mestiza how can she looks Italian? CV sometimes you are really very dumbass.

It was a joke based on Italians saying the same thing about Iberians