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AphroditeWorshiper
08-22-2018, 03:29 AM
Southern Italians = Greek Islanders, Central Italians = Greeks Mainland/Albania/Macedonia and Northern Italians = Iberians?

Is that correct?
cyberlorian
08-22-2018, 04:01 AM
No, of course.
Meerkat
08-22-2018, 04:04 AM
In terms of genetic clustering, yes. But clustering with a group genetically doesn't mean that you descend from those people.

Ashkenazim cluster with Sicilians but we aren't related to Sicilians.
Congolese Rice
08-22-2018, 04:06 AM
In terms of genetic clustering, yes. But clustering with a group genetically doesn't mean that you descend from those people.

Ashkenazim cluster with Sicilians but we aren't related to Sicilians.

in pca's i cluster closest to maghrebis, im not a north african though so yeah ur correct lol XD


https://i.imgur.com/79cLbM3.png
Vid Flumina
08-22-2018, 06:25 AM
Southern Italians = Greek Islanders, Central Italians = Greeks Mainland/Albania/Macedonia and Northern Italians = Iberians?

Is that correct?

https://i.imgur.com/YlesKBG.png
AphroditeWorshiper
08-22-2018, 01:12 PM
https://i.imgur.com/YlesKBG.png

Piedmont it's the most similar Italian group to Iberians/French right? and Lombardia to Switzerland/Austria?
Lauχum
08-22-2018, 01:42 PM
Based off this PCA, which I made in Past3 from the Eurogenes Global 25 datsheet averages (Which can be found here: http://eurogenes.blogspot.com/2018/05/global25-past-compatible-datasheets.html)...

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-North Italians (from Bergamo province, Lombardy) are genetically very similar to Iberians but slightly shifted towards Cyprus due to lower WHG and higher Anatolia_Chl/Anatolia_BA like admixture.

-Tuscans (from Southern Tuscany) are basically a western version of mainland Greeks and Albanians.

-Only Cretans are on the datasheet but they seem to cluster more with European Jews than with the Sicilian and Southern Italian samples.
Vid Flumina
08-22-2018, 04:06 PM
Piedmont it's the most similar Italian group to Iberians/French right? and Lombardia to Switzerland/Austria?

Piedmont clusters with Swiss Italians and northernmost Lombards from Sondrio province and Val Camonica, therefore it's closer to Switzerland/Austria as well.

Lombardy here would sit between Swiss Italians and Italy (Tuscany I guess):

http://secher.bernard.free.fr/blog/public/2014_Karakachoff_FigureS6.jpeg