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Böri
08-22-2018, 05:25 PM
Iran had been ruled by the Parthians from 3rd century BC to 3rd century AD, and by the Sasanians from the 3rd to 7th centuries AD.

Both states used the city known as Ctesiphon or Tyfsun as their capital.
That city which served almost 900 years as capital city of Iranian states lies now in what's Iraq.

Parthian
https://preview.ibb.co/mtbZFz/ctes.png

Sasanian
https://preview.ibb.co/jqsD8K/ctesiphon.png


Ctesiphon is ruins now, location in current Iraq:

https://preview.ibb.co/fbj72e/iraq.png


Ruins of the palace of Sasanians in Ctesiphon:

https://preview.ibb.co/iHV88K/kisra.png

wvwvw
08-22-2018, 05:26 PM
They could try but the Bedouins would destroy them

Pahli
08-22-2018, 05:29 PM
No, neither do they want to, Iraq is a corrupted ill country lol, who the fuck wants to claim it other than the oil it has which is concentrated in the North anyway.

Livin
08-22-2018, 05:36 PM
Modern Iraq belongs to assyrians!

wvwvw
08-22-2018, 05:44 PM
Modern Iraq belongs to assyrians!

No Syria belongs to Assyrians. Iraq belongs to Bedouins!

Böri
08-22-2018, 05:44 PM
Modern Iraq belongs to assyrians!

That's northern regions. Parthians and Sasanians chose a geographically perfect city for the defense as their defense doctrine was against their Roman enemies from the west. Very far away from Roman borders, chains of mountains and two rivers. However, they never calculated the likelihood one day Arabs could show up from south and that was very close to Arabia.

Livin
08-22-2018, 05:50 PM
No Syria belongs to Assyrians. Iraq belongs to Bedouins!

Syrians and Assyrians are not the same!

Bedouins are nomadic arabs what they have to do with sumero-akkadians homeland?

wvwvw
08-22-2018, 05:59 PM
Syrians and Assyrians are not the same!

Bedouins are nomadic arabs what they have to do with sumero-akkadians homeland?

Actually a good chunk of Turkey belongs to Assyrians.

Livin
08-22-2018, 06:00 PM
Actually a good chunk of Turkey belongs to Assyrians.

And some southern parts of Turkey too.

Böri
08-22-2018, 06:03 PM
Actually a good chunk of Turkey belongs to Assyrians.

Modern Assyrians speak Aramean, they have nothing to do with historical Assyrians.
Now you are welcome to show us when these modern ''Assyrians'' created any state back in their trackable history. I could understand if you said Armenians, but Armenians have a state anyway now.

Livin
08-22-2018, 06:09 PM
Modern Assyrians speak Aramean, they have nothing to do with historical Assyrians.
Now you are welcome to show us when these modern ''Assyrians'' created any state back in their trackable history. I could understand if you said Armenians, but Armenians have a state anyway now.

You are really confused about assyrians genetics and what happened with their old language.

Aramean languange adopted much later!

As for their empire look here.


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Böri
08-22-2018, 06:13 PM
There is no proof for any sort of continuity between modern Arameans pretending to be Assyrians and the actual historical Assyrians.

Stick to topic.

Livin
08-22-2018, 06:18 PM
There is no proof for any sort of continuity between modern Arameans pretending to be Assyrians and the actual historical Assyrians.

Stick to topic.

I didn't wait anything better from a fanatic grey wolf like you.....!!!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Assyrian_people

Böri
08-22-2018, 06:20 PM
I didn't wait anything better from a fanatic grey wolf like you.....!!!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Assyrian_people

That doesn't make sense but why do you even bother that much on this issue?
Now, thinking a while...
You are Pontic 'Greek'...
That's normal someone whose identity makes no sense with his historical reality would stand up for the cause of other people in similar situation...

StonyArabia
08-22-2018, 06:49 PM
They could try but the Bedouins would destroy them

Pretty much.

Tauromachos
08-22-2018, 07:41 PM
And some southern parts of Turkey too.

Don't let them claim to much or we will have Greco-Persian wars again

Lol thought at the beginning you were talking about Iranians^

Abou Assyrians you are right i think some South Eastern parts of Turkey belong to their homeland