Am I more descended from Germanics or Celtics? Based on Gedmatch

[PurpleSlander]

Based on my DNA, do you think I am more descended from the ancient Germanic tribes, the Ancient Gauls, the Ancient Britons, or perhaps even Picts?

Here is my K47
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FINAL ADMIXTURE PROPORTIONS:
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8.71% North-Iberian
2.06% East-Iberian
1.22% South-Caucasian
5.39% North-Caucasian
3.63% Paleo-Balkan
3.07% East-Med
12.55% East-Euro
15.97% North-Sea_Germanic
15.65% Celtic
4.77% West-Finnic
12.73% Scando-Germanic
0.12% Iranian
0.12% Baltic
5.65% West-Med
2.82% Pamirian
5.54% Central-Med

Here is my Eurogenes K36
Basque 3.52
Central_Euro 9.38
East_Balkan 1.97
East_Central_Euro 4.49
East_Med 0.83
Eastern_Euro 5.36
Fennoscandian 8.75
French 10.25
Iberian 13.33
Italian 11.71
North_African 0.47
North_Atlantic 9.21
North_Caucasian 0.90
North_Sea 16.45
Volga-Ural 0.08
West_Caucasian 0.97
West_Med 2.33

MDLP K16
# Population Percent
1 Neolithic 31.44
2 NorthEastEuropean 23.63
3 Steppe 22.85
4 Caucasian 20.43
5 NorthAfrican 1.11
6 SouthEastAsian 0.35
7 Arctic 0.18

# Population (source) Distance
1 German (Germany) 2.94
2 French (France) 3.47
3 French (WestFrance) 4.08
4 French (NorthwestFrance) 4.1
5 French (EastFrance) 4.34
6 Scottish (Grampian) 4.62

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[canadienne]

i don't understand results but bump.
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[PurpleSlander]

i don't understand results but bump.
please help him!

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[Aren]

What is your ancestry? Cause you do have a southern shift in comparison to NW Euros, you are more in line with some French or South German regions in terms of the Med components. But at the same time you have slightly higher East Euro/Central Euro for someone mainly from Southern Germany or France. Maybe some East German/Prussian or Austrian ancestry?

[PurpleSlander]

What is your ancestry? Cause you do have a southern shift in comparison to NW Euros, you are more in line with some French or South German regions in terms of the Med components. But at the same time you have slightly higher East Euro/Central Euro for someone mainly from Southern Germany or France. Maybe some East German/Prussian or Austrian ancestry?

I know I have a lot of southern German and western German heritage. I have one grandparent with English ancestors, and one grandparent whose parents were ethnic Germans living in modern day Romania, in a place that was at that time a part of Austria Hungary. Perhaps they are where I get this Central and East Euro component

[PurpleSlander]

What is your ancestry? Cause you do have a southern shift in comparison to NW Euros, you are more in line with some French or South German regions in terms of the Med components. But at the same time you have slightly higher East Euro/Central Euro for someone mainly from Southern Germany or France. Maybe some East German/Prussian or Austrian ancestry?

I also have one great grandparent who was Italian or part Italian

[Aren]

I know I have a lot of southern German and western German heritage. I have one grandparent with English ancestors, and one grandparent whose parents were ethnic Germans living in modern day Romania, in a place that was at that time a part of Austria Hungary. Perhaps they are where I get this Central and East Euro component

Yep, for sure. This makes sense, I would think you plot somewhere around South/West Germany but slightly more eastern. That would make you Germanic + significant pre-Germanic admix. We don't really know what South Germany/Austria/Switzerland looked like during the Roman era so it's difficult to say whether this Southern shift in comparison to Northern Germans/Dutch people is due to the Celts or other sources.

[CommonSense]

Since your results show closest affinity to Germans that should already give you an answer to your question. Keep in mind though that the Germans themselvs are partially Celtic and Slavic.

[PurpleSlander]

Since your results show closest affinity to Germans that should already give you an answer to your question. Keep in mind though that the Germans themselvs are partially Celtic and Slavic.

The main reason I was wondering is because many of my ancestors came from areas where German Tribes replaced Celtic ones. Some people even say that western Germany and southern Germany are more Celtic than Germanic

[PurpleSlander]

Yep, for sure. This makes sense, I would think you plot somewhere around South/West Germany but slightly more eastern. That would make you Germanic + significant pre-Germanic admix. We don't really know what South Germany/Austria/Switzerland looked like during the Roman era so it's difficult to say whether this Southern shift in comparison to Northern Germans/Dutch people is due to the Celts or other sources.

Depending on the test sometimes I actually plot in Belgium because of my British heritage. On other tests I plot in eastern France and western Germany. I think I have high western components like Spanish that pull me back west

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[redeyednewt]

Since your results show closest affinity to Germans that should already give you an answer to your question. Keep in mind though that the Germans themselvs are partially Celtic and Slavic.

Very true.

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[Bogdan]

Closer to Germanics.

[Grace O'Malley]

Hallstatt Celt's Puntdnal K10 if you're interested. Kit Z302274.

Puntdnal K10 result

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 WHG 48.56
2 ENF 29.24
3 CHG 22.2

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 German_South 3.37
2 Utahn_white 3.65
3 English_South 4.72
4 Croatian 5.27
5 Irish 5.61
6 Czech 5.62
7 German_North 6.25
8 French 6.36
9 Scottish_West 6.86
10 Hungarian 7.23
11 Icelandic 9.28
12 Norwegian 9.57
13 Ukrainian 11.06
14 Spanish_Northeast 13.02
15 Bulgarian 13.78
16 Italian_North 14.8
17 Belarusian 15.09
18 Spanish_Southwest 16.14
19 Finnish 17.87
20 Basque_Spanish 17.9

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 83.9% Utahn_white + 16.1% Basque_Spanish @ 1.28
2 84.9% German_North + 15.1% Sardinian @ 1.44
3 68.1% German_North + 31.9% Spanish_Northeast @ 1.53
4 59.8% French + 40.2% Icelandic @ 1.62
5 61.7% Icelandic + 38.3% Italian_North @ 1.65
6 77% Irish + 23% Basque_Spanish @ 1.81
7 60.7% French + 39.3% Norwegian @ 1.91
8 86.6% Czech + 13.4% Sardinian @ 2.02
9 76.5% French + 23.5% Lithuanian @ 2.04
10 75.1% German_North + 24.9% Basque_Spanish @ 2.07
11 73.1% German_North + 26.9% Spanish_Southwest @ 2.09
12 69.2% Icelandic + 30.8% Tuscan @ 2.11
13 71.2% Czech + 28.8% Spanish_Northeast @ 2.17
14 52.1% French + 47.9% Scottish_West @ 2.18
15 84% Scottish_West + 16% Sardinian @ 2.24
16 70.5% Icelandic + 29.5% Italian_South @ 2.25
17 78.2% German_South + 21.8% Icelandic @ 2.26
18 61.1% Norwegian + 38.9% Italian_North @ 2.28
19 75.7% Czech + 24.3% Spanish_Southwest @ 2.28
20 81.2% English_South + 18.8% Basque_Spanish @ 2.32

[PurpleSlander]

Hallstatt Celt's Puntdnal K10 if you're interested. Kit Z302274.

Puntdnal K10 result

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 WHG 48.56
2 ENF 29.24
3 CHG 22.2

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 German_South 3.37
2 Utahn_white 3.65
3 English_South 4.72
4 Croatian 5.27
5 Irish 5.61
6 Czech 5.62
7 German_North 6.25
8 French 6.36
9 Scottish_West 6.86
10 Hungarian 7.23
11 Icelandic 9.28
12 Norwegian 9.57
13 Ukrainian 11.06
14 Spanish_Northeast 13.02
15 Bulgarian 13.78
16 Italian_North 14.8
17 Belarusian 15.09
18 Spanish_Southwest 16.14
19 Finnish 17.87
20 Basque_Spanish 17.9

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 83.9% Utahn_white + 16.1% Basque_Spanish @ 1.28
2 84.9% German_North + 15.1% Sardinian @ 1.44
3 68.1% German_North + 31.9% Spanish_Northeast @ 1.53
4 59.8% French + 40.2% Icelandic @ 1.62
5 61.7% Icelandic + 38.3% Italian_North @ 1.65
6 77% Irish + 23% Basque_Spanish @ 1.81
7 60.7% French + 39.3% Norwegian @ 1.91
8 86.6% Czech + 13.4% Sardinian @ 2.02
9 76.5% French + 23.5% Lithuanian @ 2.04
10 75.1% German_North + 24.9% Basque_Spanish @ 2.07
11 73.1% German_North + 26.9% Spanish_Southwest @ 2.09
12 69.2% Icelandic + 30.8% Tuscan @ 2.11
13 71.2% Czech + 28.8% Spanish_Northeast @ 2.17
14 52.1% French + 47.9% Scottish_West @ 2.18
15 84% Scottish_West + 16% Sardinian @ 2.24
16 70.5% Icelandic + 29.5% Italian_South @ 2.25
17 78.2% German_South + 21.8% Icelandic @ 2.26
18 61.1% Norwegian + 38.9% Italian_North @ 2.28
19 75.7% Czech + 24.3% Spanish_Southwest @ 2.28
20 81.2% English_South + 18.8% Basque_Spanish @ 2.32

That is interesting! I have to be closer to this than to an ancient Germanic

[PurpleSlander]

# Population Percent
1 WHG 43.83
2 ENF 29.16
3 CHG 22.76
4 ASI 1.97
5 Sub-Saharan 1.11
6 Amerindian 0.67
7 Oceanian 0.45
8 Beringian 0.05

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 German_South 2.89
2 Croatian 3.06
3 Utahn_white 4.25
4 French 4.66
5 Irish 5.31
6 Hungarian 5.54

Mine is very similar to that

[PurpleSlander]

In some of the others I'm not as similar, but not too too far. Possibly closer that anything I listed in the poll

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[Buckeye]

Germanic Tribes, then Briton Celts