APULIAN Gedmatch results -- much closer to mainland Greeks

[Sikeliot]

Apulians are much closer to mainland Greeks than most Sicilians/Calabrians. They also do have higher Steppe.

I have all the kits so I can do them for whichever calculators people want.


Person 1:

MDLP:

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 37.38
2 European_Early_Farmers 23.28
3 European_Hunters_Gatherers 16.56
4 Near_East 9.88
5 North_African 5.70
6 South_Central_Asian 5.27


Finished reading population data. 620 populations found.
23 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Ashkenazi_ @ 4.072636
2 Ashkenazi_Jew_ @ 4.848202
3 Sicilian_Siracusa_ @ 5.339197
4 Greek_Peloponnesos_ @ 5.470904
5 Sicilian_West_ @ 5.889144
6 Central_Greek_ @ 6.029080
7 Sicilian_East_ @ 6.177156
8 Greek_ @ 6.405820
9 Romanian_Jew_ @ 6.516765
10 Greek_Athens_ @ 6.602011
11 Greek_Thessaly_ @ 6.608042
12 Sicilian_Trapani_ @ 6.888215
13 Greek_Thessaloniki_ @ 7.051401
14 Greek_Northwest_ @ 7.076319
15 Albanian_Tirana_ @ 7.158050
16 Italian_South_ @ 7.378906
17 Sicilian_Center_ @ 8.018457
18 Sicilian_Agrigento_ @ 8.150336
19 Greek_Phokaia_ @ 8.166574
20 Greek_Macedonia_ @ 8.276116

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Greek_Northwest_ +50% Sicilian_East_ @ 1.781704


Eurogenes:

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 25.32
2 West_Med 17.81
3 Atlantic 13.01
4 North_Sea 12.67
5 West_Asian 11.84
6 Baltic 8.29
7 Red_Sea 7.03
8 Eastern_Euro 3.6
9 Northeast_African 0.41
10 Oceanian 0.03
11 Amerindian 0.01
12 Siberian 0.01

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 East_Sicilian 4.4
2 Central_Greek 4.74
3 Ashkenazi 5.26
4 Greek_Thessaly 5.4
5 Italian_Abruzzo 5.66
6 West_Sicilian 6.64
7 South_Italian 7.18
8 Greek 7.24
9 Tuscan 8.16
10 Italian_Jewish 10.29
11 Sephardic_Jewish 11.65
12 Algerian_Jewish 12.03
13 Bulgarian 13.16
14 North_Italian 14.27
15 Romanian 14.89
16 Tunisian_Jewish 15.71
17 Libyan_Jewish 16.18
18 Serbian 17.79
19 Cyprian 18.3
20 Spanish_Extremadura 21.16

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 67.2% Greek_Thessaly + 32.8% Italian_Jewish @ 2.27
2 70.1% Greek_Thessaly + 29.9% Sephardic_Jewish @ 2.33
3 56.8% East_Sicilian + 43.2% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.46
4 71.4% Greek_Thessaly + 28.6% Algerian_Jewish @ 2.68
5 76.9% Greek_Thessaly + 23.1% Tunisian_Jewish @ 2.74
6 87.9% East_Sicilian + 12.1% Hungarian @ 2.78
7 63.2% Ashkenazi + 36.8% Tuscan @ 2.79
8 91.5% East_Sicilian + 8.5% North_Swedish @ 2.86
9 89.4% East_Sicilian + 10.6% East_German @ 2.87
10 90.6% East_Sicilian + 9.4% Ukrainian @ 2.89
11 91.6% East_Sicilian + 8.4% Swedish @ 2.9
12 84.2% East_Sicilian + 15.8% Serbian @ 2.91
13 90.4% East_Sicilian + 9.6% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.91
14 91.7% East_Sicilian + 8.3% Finnish @ 2.92
15 91.7% East_Sicilian + 8.3% Norwegian @ 2.92
16 92.2% East_Sicilian + 7.8% Estonian @ 2.93
17 91.5% East_Sicilian + 8.5% Southwest_Finnish @ 2.94
18 89.3% East_Sicilian + 10.7% West_German @ 2.94
19 92.1% East_Sicilian + 7.9% West_Norwegian @ 2.96
20 90.8% East_Sicilian + 9.2% South_Polish @ 3.01


Dodecad:

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 32.16
2 Atlantic_Med 28.06
3 North_European 18.12
4 Southwest_Asian 13.36
5 Gedrosia 5.13
6 Northwest_African 2.53
7 Southeast_Asian 0.55
8 Siberian 0.09

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek (Dodecad) 6.41
2 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 7.3
3 Sicilian (Dodecad) 7.49
4 C_Italian (Dodecad) 7.79
5 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 8.32
6 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 8.64
7 O_Italian (Dodecad) 8.92
8 Tuscan (HGDP) 11.25
9 TSI30 (Metspalu) 12.1
10 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 13.08
11 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 14.84
12 N_Italian (Dodecad) 17.36
13 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 17.44
14 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 17.79
15 Romanians (Behar) 18.76
16 North_Italian (HGDP) 18.89
17 Cypriots (Behar) 21.33
18 Turkish (Dodecad) 22.46
19 Lebanese (Behar) 24.53
20 Turks (Behar) 24.89

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 78.9% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 21.1% Samaritians (Behar) @ 1.78
2 90% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 10% Finnish (Dodecad) @ 2.29
3 89.8% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 10.2% FIN30 (1000Genomes) @ 2.34
4 89.9% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 10.1% Lithuanians (Behar) @ 2.56
5 71.8% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 28.2% Hungarians (Behar) @ 2.56
6 89.4% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 10.6% Lithuanian (Dodecad) @ 2.59
7 84.2% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) + 15.8% Argyll (1000Genomes) @ 2.62
8 88.4% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 11.6% Russian (HGDP) @ 2.64
9 87.6% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 12.4% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) @ 2.65
10 87.3% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 12.7% Polish (Dodecad) @ 2.65
11 88.3% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 11.7% Belorussian (Behar) @ 2.7
12 84.4% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) + 15.6% Orcadian (HGDP) @ 2.71
13 84.5% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) + 15.5% Orkney (1000Genomes) @ 2.72
14 84.4% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) + 15.6% Irish (Dodecad) @ 2.73
15 87% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 13% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) @ 2.75
16 84% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) + 16% British (Dodecad) @ 2.79
17 82.5% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) + 17.5% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) @ 2.81
18 83.6% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) + 16.4% English (Dodecad) @ 2.83
19 83.8% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) + 16.2% Cornwall (1000Genomes) @ 2.84
20 83.6% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) + 16.4% CEU30 (1000Genomes) @ 2.84



Person 2:

MDLP:


# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 39.05
2 European_Early_Farmers 20.43
3 European_Hunters_Gatherers 17.38
4 Near_East 8.45
5 South_Central_Asian 5.60
6 North_African 4.07
7 Melano_Polynesian 2.43
8 Ancestral_Altaic 1.02


Finished reading population data. 620 populations found.
23 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Central_Greek_ @ 4.344778
2 Greek_ @ 4.397180
3 Greek_Peloponnesos_ @ 5.022043
4 Greek_Athens_ @ 5.388346
5 Greek_Macedonia_ @ 5.604000
6 Greek_Thessaloniki_ @ 5.835278
7 Ashkenazi_ @ 5.910743
8 Greek_Thessaly_ @ 6.172535
9 Albanian_Tirana_ @ 6.638066
10 Romanian_Jew_ @ 6.870892
11 Ashkenazi_Jew_ @ 7.104906
12 Greek_Northwest_ @ 7.323052
13 Greek_Phokaia_ @ 7.475049
14 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain_ @ 7.494841
15 Italian_South_ @ 7.512693
16 Sicilian_Siracusa_ @ 8.393117
17 Cretan_ @ 8.755084
18 Sicilian_West_ @ 9.034920
19 Sicilian_East_ @ 9.041382
20 Kosovar_ @ 9.174774

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Bulgarian_ +50% Greek_Islands_ @ 2.938741


Eurogenes:

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 26.88
2 West_Med 17.78
3 West_Asian 14.99
4 North_Sea 11.89
5 Atlantic 11.5
6 Baltic 9.45
7 Eastern_Euro 3.13
8 Red_Sea 2.51
9 Oceanian 1.39
10 Amerindian 0.49

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Central_Greek 4.16
2 East_Sicilian 5.98
3 Greek_Thessaly 6.07
4 South_Italian 6.73
5 Greek 6.88
6 Italian_Abruzzo 7
7 Ashkenazi 7.56
8 West_Sicilian 8.97
9 Tuscan 10.96
10 Italian_Jewish 11.45
11 Sephardic_Jewish 12.95
12 Algerian_Jewish 13.13
13 Bulgarian 13.49
14 Romanian 15.67
15 Tunisian_Jewish 16.62
16 North_Italian 16.73
17 Cyprian 17.13
18 Libyan_Jewish 17.24
19 Serbian 19.2
20 Turkish 19.44

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 66.9% Central_Greek + 33.1% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.32
2 53.6% Greek_Thessaly + 46.4% South_Italian @ 3.36
3 77.3% Greek_Thessaly + 22.7% Cyprian @ 3.56
4 94.8% Central_Greek + 5.2% Ukrainian @ 3.76
5 94.7% Central_Greek + 5.3% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3.76
6 93.2% Central_Greek + 6.8% Moldavian @ 3.78
7 95.9% Central_Greek + 4.1% Estonian @ 3.8
8 96% Central_Greek + 4% Lithuanian @ 3.8
9 93.9% Central_Greek + 6.1% Hungarian @ 3.8
10 95.3% Central_Greek + 4.7% South_Polish @ 3.83
11 88.9% Central_Greek + 11.1% Bulgarian @ 3.83
12 94.4% Central_Greek + 5.6% Croatian @ 3.86
13 90.9% Central_Greek + 9.1% Romanian @ 3.87
14 95.9% Central_Greek + 4.1% Southwest_Russian @ 3.87
15 96.1% Central_Greek + 3.9% Finnish @ 3.88
16 95.9% Central_Greek + 4.1% Polish @ 3.88
17 96.1% Central_Greek + 3.9% Belorussian @ 3.88
18 95.9% Central_Greek + 4.1% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 3.88
19 96.4% Central_Greek + 3.6% La_Brana-1 @ 3.9
20 96.3% Central_Greek + 3.7% Swedish @ 3.9


Dodecad:

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 34
2 Atlantic_Med 26.6
3 North_European 17.8
4 Southwest_Asian 10.88
5 Gedrosia 7.58
6 Northwest_African 2.49
7 East_Asian 0.66

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek (Dodecad) 5.92
2 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 7.2
3 Sicilian (Dodecad) 7.52
4 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 8.16
5 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 8.53
6 C_Italian (Dodecad) 8.57
7 O_Italian (Dodecad) 9.6
8 Tuscan (HGDP) 12.05
9 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 13
10 TSI30 (Metspalu) 13.17
11 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 15.37
12 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 17.3
13 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 17.82
14 N_Italian (Dodecad) 18.52
15 Romanians (Behar) 18.81
16 Turkish (Dodecad) 19.62
17 Cypriots (Behar) 20.26
18 North_Italian (HGDP) 20.26
19 Turks (Behar) 22.06
20 Lebanese (Behar) 23.75

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 65% Cypriots (Behar) + 35% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) @ 1.58
2 66.8% Cypriots (Behar) + 33.2% CEU30 (1000Genomes) @ 1.72
3 66.2% Cypriots (Behar) + 33.8% Dutch (Dodecad) @ 1.74
4 66.9% Cypriots (Behar) + 33.1% English (Dodecad) @ 1.76
5 68.5% Cypriots (Behar) + 31.5% Orkney (1000Genomes) @ 1.79
6 68% Cypriots (Behar) + 32% Argyll (1000Genomes) @ 1.82
7 66.5% Cypriots (Behar) + 33.5% Kent (1000Genomes) @ 1.84
8 68.4% Cypriots (Behar) + 31.6% Orcadian (HGDP) @ 1.89
9 67.7% Cypriots (Behar) + 32.3% British_Isles (Dodecad) @ 1.94
10 68.2% Cypriots (Behar) + 31.8% Irish (Dodecad) @ 1.94
11 67.6% Cypriots (Behar) + 32.4% British (Dodecad) @ 2.17
12 76% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 24% Georgia_Jews (Behar) @ 2.2
13 67.2% Cypriots (Behar) + 32.8% Cornwall (1000Genomes) @ 2.24
14 77.4% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 22.6% Iranian_Jews (Behar) @ 2.48
15 92.9% Greek (Dodecad) + 7.1% Brahui (HGDP) @ 2.53
16 92% Greek (Dodecad) + 8% Makrani (HGDP) @ 2.58
17 74.6% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 25.4% Druze (HGDP) @ 2.59
18 92.4% Greek (Dodecad) + 7.6% Balochi (HGDP) @ 2.65
19 76.7% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 23.3% Iraq_Jews (Behar) @ 2.66
20 88.2% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 11.8% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 2.69



Person 3:

MDLP:

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 40.35
2 European_Early_Farmers 20.23
3 European_Hunters_Gatherers 17.86
4 Near_East 9.31
5 South_Central_Asian 4.61
6 North_African 3.73
7 Melano_Polynesian 1.15
8 Tungus-Altaic 1.11


Finished reading population data. 620 populations found.
23 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Greek_ @ 3.225657
2 Central_Greek_ @ 4.238650
3 Greek_Macedonia_ @ 4.315877
4 Greek_Athens_ @ 4.732475
5 Greek_Peloponnesos_ @ 4.759110
6 Greek_Thessaloniki_ @ 5.599764
7 Ashkenazi_ @ 5.870365
8 Greek_Thessaly_ @ 5.997617
9 Albanian_Tirana_ @ 6.497821
10 Romanian_Jew_ @ 6.801586
11 Greek_Phokaia_ @ 6.843319
12 Italian_South_ @ 6.883557
13 Ashkenazi_Jew_ @ 7.825966
14 Greek_Northwest_ @ 7.947854
15 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain_ @ 8.208500
16 Cretan_ @ 8.777082
17 Sicilian_Siracusa_ @ 8.799623
18 Sicilian_Center_ @ 9.252329
19 Sicilian_East_ @ 9.252908
20 Kosovar_ @ 9.414076

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Bulgarian_ +50% Greek_Islands_ @ 2.535726


Eurogenes:

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 28.97
2 West_Med 16.32
3 West_Asian 14.91
4 Atlantic 12.23
5 North_Sea 11.27
6 Baltic 9.05
7 Red_Sea 3.14
8 Eastern_Euro 2.48
9 Oceanian 1.09
10 Southeast_Asian 0.54

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Central_Greek 3.72
2 East_Sicilian 5.34
3 South_Italian 5.5
4 Italian_Abruzzo 6.65
5 Ashkenazi 6.98
6 Greek_Thessaly 7.66
7 Greek 7.66
8 West_Sicilian 8.39
9 Italian_Jewish 9.9
10 Sephardic_Jewish 11.2
11 Algerian_Jewish 11.67
12 Tuscan 11.67
13 Bulgarian 14.69
14 Tunisian_Jewish 14.78
15 Cyprian 15.48
16 Libyan_Jewish 15.87
17 Romanian 16.89
18 North_Italian 17.79
19 Turkish 18.55
20 Lebanese_Muslim 18.66

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 96% Central_Greek + 4% Lebanese_Druze @ 3.59
2 62% South_Italian + 38% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.62
3 88.8% Central_Greek + 11.2% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.63
4 99.4% Central_Greek + 0.6% Papuan @ 3.65
5 99.3% Central_Greek + 0.7% NAN_Melanesian @ 3.65
6 98.3% Central_Greek + 1.7% La_Brana-1 @ 3.66
7 98.5% Central_Greek + 1.5% Lithuanian @ 3.67
8 98.5% Central_Greek + 1.5% Estonian @ 3.67
9 98.5% Central_Greek + 1.5% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3.69
10 98.6% Central_Greek + 1.4% Ukrainian @ 3.69
11 98.8% Central_Greek + 1.2% Belorussian @ 3.69
12 91% South_Italian + 9% Estonian @ 3.7
13 98.8% Central_Greek + 1.2% Southwest_Russian @ 3.7
14 98.4% Central_Greek + 1.6% Hungarian @ 3.7
15 98.9% Central_Greek + 1.1% Finnish @ 3.7
16 98.8% Central_Greek + 1.2% South_Polish @ 3.7
17 98.3% Central_Greek + 1.7% Lebanese_Christian @ 3.7
18 99% Central_Greek + 1% Swedish @ 3.7
19 94.3% Central_Greek + 5.7% Greek @ 3.7
20 98.9% Central_Greek + 1.1% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 3.7


Dodecad:

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 34.68
2 Atlantic_Med 26.72
3 North_European 16.79
4 Southwest_Asian 11.43
5 Gedrosia 6.95
6 Northwest_African 2.59
7 East_Asian 0.74
8 East_African 0.12

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek (Dodecad) 5.81
2 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 6.03
3 Sicilian (Dodecad) 6.36
4 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 6.95
5 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 7.28
6 C_Italian (Dodecad) 8.58
7 O_Italian (Dodecad) 10.35
8 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 11.79
9 Tuscan (HGDP) 12.29
10 TSI30 (Metspalu) 13.5
11 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 14.33
12 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 18.3
13 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 18.74
14 Cypriots (Behar) 19.14
15 N_Italian (Dodecad) 19.17
16 Turkish (Dodecad) 19.22
17 Romanians (Behar) 19.84
18 North_Italian (HGDP) 20.73
19 Turks (Behar) 21.74
20 Lebanese (Behar) 22.96

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 68.7% Cypriots (Behar) + 31.3% CEU30 (1000Genomes) @ 1.59
2 68.7% Cypriots (Behar) + 31.3% English (Dodecad) @ 1.61
3 68.4% Cypriots (Behar) + 31.6% Kent (1000Genomes) @ 1.62
4 69.4% Cypriots (Behar) + 30.6% British_Isles (Dodecad) @ 1.65
5 70.2% Cypriots (Behar) + 29.8% Orkney (1000Genomes) @ 1.72
6 67% Cypriots (Behar) + 33% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) @ 1.75
7 70.1% Cypriots (Behar) + 29.9% Orcadian (HGDP) @ 1.75
8 70% Cypriots (Behar) + 30% Irish (Dodecad) @ 1.76
9 68% Cypriots (Behar) + 32% Dutch (Dodecad) @ 1.78
10 69.7% Cypriots (Behar) + 30.3% Argyll (1000Genomes) @ 1.84
11 69.3% Cypriots (Behar) + 30.7% British (Dodecad) @ 1.85
12 69% Cypriots (Behar) + 31% Cornwall (1000Genomes) @ 1.9
13 72.1% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 27.9% Druze (HGDP) @ 1.99
14 90.2% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 9.8% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 2.35
15 90.6% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 9.4% Russian (Dodecad) @ 2.58
16 64.8% Cypriots (Behar) + 35.2% French (Dodecad) @ 2.58
17 90.5% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 9.5% Russian_B (Behar) @ 2.59
18 90.8% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 9.2% Russian (HGDP) @ 2.63
19 77.1% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 22.9% Bulgarian (Dodecad) @ 2.7
20 74.4% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 25.6% Georgia_Jews (Behar) @ 2.71



Person 4:

MDLP:

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 37.44
2 European_Early_Farmers 21.53
3 European_Hunters_Gatherers 13.77
4 Near_East 10.04
5 South_Central_Asian 7.22
6 North_African 6.06
7 Ancestral_Altaic 2.30


Finished reading population data. 620 populations found.
23 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Ashkenazi_Jew_ @ 3.477170
2 Sicilian_West_ @ 4.662669
3 Ashkenazi_ @ 5.169574
4 Sicilian_East_ @ 5.409240
5 Sicilian_Siracusa_ @ 5.412880
6 Romanian_Jew_ @ 5.673872
7 Cretan_ @ 5.852981
8 Sicilian_Trapani_ @ 6.557049
9 Sicilian_Agrigento_ @ 6.717422
10 Greek_Athens_ @ 6.802147
11 Greek_ @ 6.969787
12 Italian_South_ @ 7.062784
13 Maltese_ @ 7.618162
14 Central_Greek_ @ 7.762473
15 Greek_Phokaia_ @ 8.073081
16 Sicilian_Center_ @ 8.142717
17 Greek_Peloponnesos_ @ 8.360151
18 French_Jew_ @ 8.416877
19 Greek_Macedonia_ @ 8.768769
20 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain_ @ 9.358796

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Kosovar_ +50% Syrian_Jew_ @ 2.306931


Eurogenes:

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 27.67
2 Atlantic 18.92
3 West_Asian 16.51
4 West_Med 13.22
5 Baltic 7.36
6 Eastern_Euro 5.26
7 Red_Sea 5.08
8 North_Sea 4.74
9 Northeast_African 0.67
10 Oceanian 0.59

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Italian_Abruzzo 7.56
2 Central_Greek 7.91
3 East_Sicilian 8.38
4 West_Sicilian 8.42
5 South_Italian 8.48
6 Greek 8.84
7 Ashkenazi 9.59
8 Sephardic_Jewish 10.48
9 Italian_Jewish 11.86
10 Algerian_Jewish 12.63
11 Greek_Thessaly 12.97
12 Tuscan 13.13
13 Tunisian_Jewish 14.29
14 Bulgarian 15.67
15 Cyprian 16.25
16 Turkish 17.17
17 Romanian 18.11
18 Lebanese_Muslim 18.47
19 Libyan_Jewish 18.51
20 North_Italian 18.88

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 72.8% West_Sicilian + 27.2% Turkish @ 5.87
2 79.9% West_Sicilian + 20.1% Kurdish @ 5.9
3 84.8% West_Sicilian + 15.2% Adygei @ 5.97
4 55% Iranian_Jewish + 45% Southwest_French @ 5.99
5 77.9% West_Sicilian + 22.1% Azeri @ 6.03
6 57.1% Greek + 42.9% Sephardic_Jewish @ 6.08
7 86% West_Sicilian + 14% Georgian @ 6.11
8 86.1% West_Sicilian + 13.9% North_Ossetian @ 6.11
9 87.2% West_Sicilian + 12.8% Abhkasian @ 6.12
10 85% West_Sicilian + 15% Kabardin @ 6.17
11 60.6% Iranian_Jewish + 39.4% French_Basque @ 6.19
12 81.5% West_Sicilian + 18.5% Iranian @ 6.19
13 73.4% Greek + 26.6% Lebanese_Muslim @ 6.19
14 63% Sephardic_Jewish + 37% Bulgarian @ 6.22
15 80.5% West_Sicilian + 19.5% Georgian_Jewish @ 6.22
16 62.5% Lebanese_Muslim + 37.5% Southwest_French @ 6.24
17 67.8% Lebanese_Muslim + 32.2% French_Basque @ 6.27
18 83.5% West_Sicilian + 16.5% Kumyk @ 6.28
19 85.5% West_Sicilian + 14.5% Balkar @ 6.31
20 51.4% Iranian_Jewish + 48.6% Spanish_Valencia @ 6.35


Dodecad:

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 34.61
2 Atlantic_Med 26.05
3 North_European 16.91
4 Southwest_Asian 11.38
5 Gedrosia 7.58
6 Northwest_African 3.03
7 South_Asian 0.36
8 Southeast_Asian 0.07

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek (Dodecad) 6.36
2 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 6.58
3 Sicilian (Dodecad) 6.9
4 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 7.17
5 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 7.59
6 C_Italian (Dodecad) 9.24
7 O_Italian (Dodecad) 10.74
8 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 11.86
9 Tuscan (HGDP) 12.95
10 TSI30 (Metspalu) 14.08
11 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 14.35
12 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 18.25
13 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 18.79
14 Turkish (Dodecad) 18.87
15 Cypriots (Behar) 19.13
16 N_Italian (Dodecad) 19.59
17 Romanians (Behar) 19.8
18 North_Italian (HGDP) 21.25
19 Turks (Behar) 21.3
20 Lebanese (Behar) 22.58

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 67.1% Cypriots (Behar) + 32.9% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) @ 1.86
2 69.8% Cypriots (Behar) + 30.2% Argyll (1000Genomes) @ 1.92
3 70.3% Cypriots (Behar) + 29.7% Orkney (1000Genomes) @ 1.94
4 68.7% Cypriots (Behar) + 31.3% CEU30 (1000Genomes) @ 1.97
5 68.1% Cypriots (Behar) + 31.9% Dutch (Dodecad) @ 1.98
6 68.8% Cypriots (Behar) + 31.2% English (Dodecad) @ 1.99
7 70.2% Cypriots (Behar) + 29.8% Orcadian (HGDP) @ 2.01
8 68.5% Cypriots (Behar) + 31.5% Kent (1000Genomes) @ 2.07
9 70% Cypriots (Behar) + 30% Irish (Dodecad) @ 2.07
10 69.5% Cypriots (Behar) + 30.5% British_Isles (Dodecad) @ 2.16
11 69.4% Cypriots (Behar) + 30.6% British (Dodecad) @ 2.3
12 69.1% Cypriots (Behar) + 30.9% Cornwall (1000Genomes) @ 2.37
13 71.3% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 28.7% Druze (HGDP) @ 2.51
14 73.2% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 26.8% Georgia_Jews (Behar) @ 2.58
15 74.7% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 25.3% Iranian_Jews (Behar) @ 2.72
16 73.9% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 26.1% Iraq_Jews (Behar) @ 2.83
17 68.4% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 31.6% Lebanese (Behar) @ 2.94
18 63% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 37% Romanians (Behar) @ 3.02
19 71.9% Cypriots (Behar) + 28.1% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 3.02
20 61.1% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 38.9% Bulgarian (Dodecad) @ 3.03

[Joso]

Apulians are much closer to mainland Greeks than most Sicilians/Calabrians. They also do have higher Steppe.

I have all the kits so I can do them for whichever calculators people want.


Person 1:

MDLP:

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 37.38
2 European_Early_Farmers 23.28
3 European_Hunters_Gatherers 16.56
4 Near_East 9.88
5 North_African 5.70
6 South_Central_Asian 5.27


Finished reading population data. 620 populations found.
23 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Ashkenazi_ @ 4.072636
2 Ashkenazi_Jew_ @ 4.848202
3 Sicilian_Siracusa_ @ 5.339197
4 Greek_Peloponnesos_ @ 5.470904
5 Sicilian_West_ @ 5.889144
6 Central_Greek_ @ 6.029080
7 Sicilian_East_ @ 6.177156
8 Greek_ @ 6.405820
9 Romanian_Jew_ @ 6.516765
10 Greek_Athens_ @ 6.602011
11 Greek_Thessaly_ @ 6.608042
12 Sicilian_Trapani_ @ 6.888215
13 Greek_Thessaloniki_ @ 7.051401
14 Greek_Northwest_ @ 7.076319
15 Albanian_Tirana_ @ 7.158050
16 Italian_South_ @ 7.378906
17 Sicilian_Center_ @ 8.018457
18 Sicilian_Agrigento_ @ 8.150336
19 Greek_Phokaia_ @ 8.166574
20 Greek_Macedonia_ @ 8.276116

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Greek_Northwest_ +50% Sicilian_East_ @ 1.781704


Eurogenes:

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 25.32
2 West_Med 17.81
3 Atlantic 13.01
4 North_Sea 12.67
5 West_Asian 11.84
6 Baltic 8.29
7 Red_Sea 7.03
8 Eastern_Euro 3.6
9 Northeast_African 0.41
10 Oceanian 0.03
11 Amerindian 0.01
12 Siberian 0.01

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 East_Sicilian 4.4
2 Central_Greek 4.74
3 Ashkenazi 5.26
4 Greek_Thessaly 5.4
5 Italian_Abruzzo 5.66
6 West_Sicilian 6.64
7 South_Italian 7.18
8 Greek 7.24
9 Tuscan 8.16
10 Italian_Jewish 10.29
11 Sephardic_Jewish 11.65
12 Algerian_Jewish 12.03
13 Bulgarian 13.16
14 North_Italian 14.27
15 Romanian 14.89
16 Tunisian_Jewish 15.71
17 Libyan_Jewish 16.18
18 Serbian 17.79
19 Cyprian 18.3
20 Spanish_Extremadura 21.16

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 67.2% Greek_Thessaly + 32.8% Italian_Jewish @ 2.27
2 70.1% Greek_Thessaly + 29.9% Sephardic_Jewish @ 2.33
3 56.8% East_Sicilian + 43.2% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.46
4 71.4% Greek_Thessaly + 28.6% Algerian_Jewish @ 2.68
5 76.9% Greek_Thessaly + 23.1% Tunisian_Jewish @ 2.74
6 87.9% East_Sicilian + 12.1% Hungarian @ 2.78
7 63.2% Ashkenazi + 36.8% Tuscan @ 2.79
8 91.5% East_Sicilian + 8.5% North_Swedish @ 2.86
9 89.4% East_Sicilian + 10.6% East_German @ 2.87
10 90.6% East_Sicilian + 9.4% Ukrainian @ 2.89
11 91.6% East_Sicilian + 8.4% Swedish @ 2.9
12 84.2% East_Sicilian + 15.8% Serbian @ 2.91
13 90.4% East_Sicilian + 9.6% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.91
14 91.7% East_Sicilian + 8.3% Finnish @ 2.92
15 91.7% East_Sicilian + 8.3% Norwegian @ 2.92
16 92.2% East_Sicilian + 7.8% Estonian @ 2.93
17 91.5% East_Sicilian + 8.5% Southwest_Finnish @ 2.94
18 89.3% East_Sicilian + 10.7% West_German @ 2.94
19 92.1% East_Sicilian + 7.9% West_Norwegian @ 2.96
20 90.8% East_Sicilian + 9.2% South_Polish @ 3.01


Dodecad:

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 32.16
2 Atlantic_Med 28.06
3 North_European 18.12
4 Southwest_Asian 13.36
5 Gedrosia 5.13
6 Northwest_African 2.53
7 Southeast_Asian 0.55
8 Siberian 0.09

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek (Dodecad) 6.41
2 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 7.3
3 Sicilian (Dodecad) 7.49
4 C_Italian (Dodecad) 7.79
5 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 8.32
6 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 8.64
7 O_Italian (Dodecad) 8.92
8 Tuscan (HGDP) 11.25
9 TSI30 (Metspalu) 12.1
10 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 13.08
11 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 14.84
12 N_Italian (Dodecad) 17.36
13 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 17.44
14 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 17.79
15 Romanians (Behar) 18.76
16 North_Italian (HGDP) 18.89
17 Cypriots (Behar) 21.33
18 Turkish (Dodecad) 22.46
19 Lebanese (Behar) 24.53
20 Turks (Behar) 24.89

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 78.9% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 21.1% Samaritians (Behar) @ 1.78
2 90% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 10% Finnish (Dodecad) @ 2.29
3 89.8% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 10.2% FIN30 (1000Genomes) @ 2.34
4 89.9% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 10.1% Lithuanians (Behar) @ 2.56
5 71.8% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 28.2% Hungarians (Behar) @ 2.56
6 89.4% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 10.6% Lithuanian (Dodecad) @ 2.59
7 84.2% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) + 15.8% Argyll (1000Genomes) @ 2.62
8 88.4% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 11.6% Russian (HGDP) @ 2.64
9 87.6% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 12.4% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) @ 2.65
10 87.3% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 12.7% Polish (Dodecad) @ 2.65
11 88.3% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 11.7% Belorussian (Behar) @ 2.7
12 84.4% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) + 15.6% Orcadian (HGDP) @ 2.71
13 84.5% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) + 15.5% Orkney (1000Genomes) @ 2.72
14 84.4% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) + 15.6% Irish (Dodecad) @ 2.73
15 87% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 13% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) @ 2.75
16 84% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) + 16% British (Dodecad) @ 2.79
17 82.5% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) + 17.5% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) @ 2.81
18 83.6% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) + 16.4% English (Dodecad) @ 2.83
19 83.8% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) + 16.2% Cornwall (1000Genomes) @ 2.84
20 83.6% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) + 16.4% CEU30 (1000Genomes) @ 2.84



Person 2:

MDLP:


# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 39.05
2 European_Early_Farmers 20.43
3 European_Hunters_Gatherers 17.38
4 Near_East 8.45
5 South_Central_Asian 5.60
6 North_African 4.07
7 Melano_Polynesian 2.43
8 Ancestral_Altaic 1.02


Finished reading population data. 620 populations found.
23 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Central_Greek_ @ 4.344778
2 Greek_ @ 4.397180
3 Greek_Peloponnesos_ @ 5.022043
4 Greek_Athens_ @ 5.388346
5 Greek_Macedonia_ @ 5.604000
6 Greek_Thessaloniki_ @ 5.835278
7 Ashkenazi_ @ 5.910743
8 Greek_Thessaly_ @ 6.172535
9 Albanian_Tirana_ @ 6.638066
10 Romanian_Jew_ @ 6.870892
11 Ashkenazi_Jew_ @ 7.104906
12 Greek_Northwest_ @ 7.323052
13 Greek_Phokaia_ @ 7.475049
14 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain_ @ 7.494841
15 Italian_South_ @ 7.512693
16 Sicilian_Siracusa_ @ 8.393117
17 Cretan_ @ 8.755084
18 Sicilian_West_ @ 9.034920
19 Sicilian_East_ @ 9.041382
20 Kosovar_ @ 9.174774

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Bulgarian_ +50% Greek_Islands_ @ 2.938741


Eurogenes:

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 26.88
2 West_Med 17.78
3 West_Asian 14.99
4 North_Sea 11.89
5 Atlantic 11.5
6 Baltic 9.45
7 Eastern_Euro 3.13
8 Red_Sea 2.51
9 Oceanian 1.39
10 Amerindian 0.49

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Central_Greek 4.16
2 East_Sicilian 5.98
3 Greek_Thessaly 6.07
4 South_Italian 6.73
5 Greek 6.88
6 Italian_Abruzzo 7
7 Ashkenazi 7.56
8 West_Sicilian 8.97
9 Tuscan 10.96
10 Italian_Jewish 11.45
11 Sephardic_Jewish 12.95
12 Algerian_Jewish 13.13
13 Bulgarian 13.49
14 Romanian 15.67
15 Tunisian_Jewish 16.62
16 North_Italian 16.73
17 Cyprian 17.13
18 Libyan_Jewish 17.24
19 Serbian 19.2
20 Turkish 19.44

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 66.9% Central_Greek + 33.1% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.32
2 53.6% Greek_Thessaly + 46.4% South_Italian @ 3.36
3 77.3% Greek_Thessaly + 22.7% Cyprian @ 3.56
4 94.8% Central_Greek + 5.2% Ukrainian @ 3.76
5 94.7% Central_Greek + 5.3% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3.76
6 93.2% Central_Greek + 6.8% Moldavian @ 3.78
7 95.9% Central_Greek + 4.1% Estonian @ 3.8
8 96% Central_Greek + 4% Lithuanian @ 3.8
9 93.9% Central_Greek + 6.1% Hungarian @ 3.8
10 95.3% Central_Greek + 4.7% South_Polish @ 3.83
11 88.9% Central_Greek + 11.1% Bulgarian @ 3.83
12 94.4% Central_Greek + 5.6% Croatian @ 3.86
13 90.9% Central_Greek + 9.1% Romanian @ 3.87
14 95.9% Central_Greek + 4.1% Southwest_Russian @ 3.87
15 96.1% Central_Greek + 3.9% Finnish @ 3.88
16 95.9% Central_Greek + 4.1% Polish @ 3.88
17 96.1% Central_Greek + 3.9% Belorussian @ 3.88
18 95.9% Central_Greek + 4.1% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 3.88
19 96.4% Central_Greek + 3.6% La_Brana-1 @ 3.9
20 96.3% Central_Greek + 3.7% Swedish @ 3.9


Dodecad:

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 34
2 Atlantic_Med 26.6
3 North_European 17.8
4 Southwest_Asian 10.88
5 Gedrosia 7.58
6 Northwest_African 2.49
7 East_Asian 0.66

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek (Dodecad) 5.92
2 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 7.2
3 Sicilian (Dodecad) 7.52
4 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 8.16
5 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 8.53
6 C_Italian (Dodecad) 8.57
7 O_Italian (Dodecad) 9.6
8 Tuscan (HGDP) 12.05
9 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 13
10 TSI30 (Metspalu) 13.17
11 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 15.37
12 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 17.3
13 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 17.82
14 N_Italian (Dodecad) 18.52
15 Romanians (Behar) 18.81
16 Turkish (Dodecad) 19.62
17 Cypriots (Behar) 20.26
18 North_Italian (HGDP) 20.26
19 Turks (Behar) 22.06
20 Lebanese (Behar) 23.75

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 65% Cypriots (Behar) + 35% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) @ 1.58
2 66.8% Cypriots (Behar) + 33.2% CEU30 (1000Genomes) @ 1.72
3 66.2% Cypriots (Behar) + 33.8% Dutch (Dodecad) @ 1.74
4 66.9% Cypriots (Behar) + 33.1% English (Dodecad) @ 1.76
5 68.5% Cypriots (Behar) + 31.5% Orkney (1000Genomes) @ 1.79
6 68% Cypriots (Behar) + 32% Argyll (1000Genomes) @ 1.82
7 66.5% Cypriots (Behar) + 33.5% Kent (1000Genomes) @ 1.84
8 68.4% Cypriots (Behar) + 31.6% Orcadian (HGDP) @ 1.89
9 67.7% Cypriots (Behar) + 32.3% British_Isles (Dodecad) @ 1.94
10 68.2% Cypriots (Behar) + 31.8% Irish (Dodecad) @ 1.94
11 67.6% Cypriots (Behar) + 32.4% British (Dodecad) @ 2.17
12 76% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 24% Georgia_Jews (Behar) @ 2.2
13 67.2% Cypriots (Behar) + 32.8% Cornwall (1000Genomes) @ 2.24
14 77.4% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 22.6% Iranian_Jews (Behar) @ 2.48
15 92.9% Greek (Dodecad) + 7.1% Brahui (HGDP) @ 2.53
16 92% Greek (Dodecad) + 8% Makrani (HGDP) @ 2.58
17 74.6% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 25.4% Druze (HGDP) @ 2.59
18 92.4% Greek (Dodecad) + 7.6% Balochi (HGDP) @ 2.65
19 76.7% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 23.3% Iraq_Jews (Behar) @ 2.66
20 88.2% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 11.8% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 2.69



Person 3:

MDLP:

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 40.35
2 European_Early_Farmers 20.23
3 European_Hunters_Gatherers 17.86
4 Near_East 9.31
5 South_Central_Asian 4.61
6 North_African 3.73
7 Melano_Polynesian 1.15
8 Tungus-Altaic 1.11


Finished reading population data. 620 populations found.
23 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Greek_ @ 3.225657
2 Central_Greek_ @ 4.238650
3 Greek_Macedonia_ @ 4.315877
4 Greek_Athens_ @ 4.732475
5 Greek_Peloponnesos_ @ 4.759110
6 Greek_Thessaloniki_ @ 5.599764
7 Ashkenazi_ @ 5.870365
8 Greek_Thessaly_ @ 5.997617
9 Albanian_Tirana_ @ 6.497821
10 Romanian_Jew_ @ 6.801586
11 Greek_Phokaia_ @ 6.843319
12 Italian_South_ @ 6.883557
13 Ashkenazi_Jew_ @ 7.825966
14 Greek_Northwest_ @ 7.947854
15 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain_ @ 8.208500
16 Cretan_ @ 8.777082
17 Sicilian_Siracusa_ @ 8.799623
18 Sicilian_Center_ @ 9.252329
19 Sicilian_East_ @ 9.252908
20 Kosovar_ @ 9.414076

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Bulgarian_ +50% Greek_Islands_ @ 2.535726


Eurogenes:

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 28.97
2 West_Med 16.32
3 West_Asian 14.91
4 Atlantic 12.23
5 North_Sea 11.27
6 Baltic 9.05
7 Red_Sea 3.14
8 Eastern_Euro 2.48
9 Oceanian 1.09
10 Southeast_Asian 0.54

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Central_Greek 3.72
2 East_Sicilian 5.34
3 South_Italian 5.5
4 Italian_Abruzzo 6.65
5 Ashkenazi 6.98
6 Greek_Thessaly 7.66
7 Greek 7.66
8 West_Sicilian 8.39
9 Italian_Jewish 9.9
10 Sephardic_Jewish 11.2
11 Algerian_Jewish 11.67
12 Tuscan 11.67
13 Bulgarian 14.69
14 Tunisian_Jewish 14.78
15 Cyprian 15.48
16 Libyan_Jewish 15.87
17 Romanian 16.89
18 North_Italian 17.79
19 Turkish 18.55
20 Lebanese_Muslim 18.66

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 96% Central_Greek + 4% Lebanese_Druze @ 3.59
2 62% South_Italian + 38% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.62
3 88.8% Central_Greek + 11.2% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.63
4 99.4% Central_Greek + 0.6% Papuan @ 3.65
5 99.3% Central_Greek + 0.7% NAN_Melanesian @ 3.65
6 98.3% Central_Greek + 1.7% La_Brana-1 @ 3.66
7 98.5% Central_Greek + 1.5% Lithuanian @ 3.67
8 98.5% Central_Greek + 1.5% Estonian @ 3.67
9 98.5% Central_Greek + 1.5% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3.69
10 98.6% Central_Greek + 1.4% Ukrainian @ 3.69
11 98.8% Central_Greek + 1.2% Belorussian @ 3.69
12 91% South_Italian + 9% Estonian @ 3.7
13 98.8% Central_Greek + 1.2% Southwest_Russian @ 3.7
14 98.4% Central_Greek + 1.6% Hungarian @ 3.7
15 98.9% Central_Greek + 1.1% Finnish @ 3.7
16 98.8% Central_Greek + 1.2% South_Polish @ 3.7
17 98.3% Central_Greek + 1.7% Lebanese_Christian @ 3.7
18 99% Central_Greek + 1% Swedish @ 3.7
19 94.3% Central_Greek + 5.7% Greek @ 3.7
20 98.9% Central_Greek + 1.1% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 3.7


Dodecad:

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 34.68
2 Atlantic_Med 26.72
3 North_European 16.79
4 Southwest_Asian 11.43
5 Gedrosia 6.95
6 Northwest_African 2.59
7 East_Asian 0.74
8 East_African 0.12

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek (Dodecad) 5.81
2 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 6.03
3 Sicilian (Dodecad) 6.36
4 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 6.95
5 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 7.28
6 C_Italian (Dodecad) 8.58
7 O_Italian (Dodecad) 10.35
8 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 11.79
9 Tuscan (HGDP) 12.29
10 TSI30 (Metspalu) 13.5
11 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 14.33
12 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 18.3
13 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 18.74
14 Cypriots (Behar) 19.14
15 N_Italian (Dodecad) 19.17
16 Turkish (Dodecad) 19.22
17 Romanians (Behar) 19.84
18 North_Italian (HGDP) 20.73
19 Turks (Behar) 21.74
20 Lebanese (Behar) 22.96

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 68.7% Cypriots (Behar) + 31.3% CEU30 (1000Genomes) @ 1.59
2 68.7% Cypriots (Behar) + 31.3% English (Dodecad) @ 1.61
3 68.4% Cypriots (Behar) + 31.6% Kent (1000Genomes) @ 1.62
4 69.4% Cypriots (Behar) + 30.6% British_Isles (Dodecad) @ 1.65
5 70.2% Cypriots (Behar) + 29.8% Orkney (1000Genomes) @ 1.72
6 67% Cypriots (Behar) + 33% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) @ 1.75
7 70.1% Cypriots (Behar) + 29.9% Orcadian (HGDP) @ 1.75
8 70% Cypriots (Behar) + 30% Irish (Dodecad) @ 1.76
9 68% Cypriots (Behar) + 32% Dutch (Dodecad) @ 1.78
10 69.7% Cypriots (Behar) + 30.3% Argyll (1000Genomes) @ 1.84
11 69.3% Cypriots (Behar) + 30.7% British (Dodecad) @ 1.85
12 69% Cypriots (Behar) + 31% Cornwall (1000Genomes) @ 1.9
13 72.1% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 27.9% Druze (HGDP) @ 1.99
14 90.2% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 9.8% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 2.35
15 90.6% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 9.4% Russian (Dodecad) @ 2.58
16 64.8% Cypriots (Behar) + 35.2% French (Dodecad) @ 2.58
17 90.5% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 9.5% Russian_B (Behar) @ 2.59
18 90.8% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 9.2% Russian (HGDP) @ 2.63
19 77.1% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 22.9% Bulgarian (Dodecad) @ 2.7
20 74.4% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 25.6% Georgia_Jews (Behar) @ 2.71



Person 4:

MDLP:

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 37.44
2 European_Early_Farmers 21.53
3 European_Hunters_Gatherers 13.77
4 Near_East 10.04
5 South_Central_Asian 7.22
6 North_African 6.06
7 Ancestral_Altaic 2.30


Finished reading population data. 620 populations found.
23 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Ashkenazi_Jew_ @ 3.477170
2 Sicilian_West_ @ 4.662669
3 Ashkenazi_ @ 5.169574
4 Sicilian_East_ @ 5.409240
5 Sicilian_Siracusa_ @ 5.412880
6 Romanian_Jew_ @ 5.673872
7 Cretan_ @ 5.852981
8 Sicilian_Trapani_ @ 6.557049
9 Sicilian_Agrigento_ @ 6.717422
10 Greek_Athens_ @ 6.802147
11 Greek_ @ 6.969787
12 Italian_South_ @ 7.062784
13 Maltese_ @ 7.618162
14 Central_Greek_ @ 7.762473
15 Greek_Phokaia_ @ 8.073081
16 Sicilian_Center_ @ 8.142717
17 Greek_Peloponnesos_ @ 8.360151
18 French_Jew_ @ 8.416877
19 Greek_Macedonia_ @ 8.768769
20 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain_ @ 9.358796

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Kosovar_ +50% Syrian_Jew_ @ 2.306931


Eurogenes:

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 27.67
2 Atlantic 18.92
3 West_Asian 16.51
4 West_Med 13.22
5 Baltic 7.36
6 Eastern_Euro 5.26
7 Red_Sea 5.08
8 North_Sea 4.74
9 Northeast_African 0.67
10 Oceanian 0.59

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Italian_Abruzzo 7.56
2 Central_Greek 7.91
3 East_Sicilian 8.38
4 West_Sicilian 8.42
5 South_Italian 8.48
6 Greek 8.84
7 Ashkenazi 9.59
8 Sephardic_Jewish 10.48
9 Italian_Jewish 11.86
10 Algerian_Jewish 12.63
11 Greek_Thessaly 12.97
12 Tuscan 13.13
13 Tunisian_Jewish 14.29
14 Bulgarian 15.67
15 Cyprian 16.25
16 Turkish 17.17
17 Romanian 18.11
18 Lebanese_Muslim 18.47
19 Libyan_Jewish 18.51
20 North_Italian 18.88

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 72.8% West_Sicilian + 27.2% Turkish @ 5.87
2 79.9% West_Sicilian + 20.1% Kurdish @ 5.9
3 84.8% West_Sicilian + 15.2% Adygei @ 5.97
4 55% Iranian_Jewish + 45% Southwest_French @ 5.99
5 77.9% West_Sicilian + 22.1% Azeri @ 6.03
6 57.1% Greek + 42.9% Sephardic_Jewish @ 6.08
7 86% West_Sicilian + 14% Georgian @ 6.11
8 86.1% West_Sicilian + 13.9% North_Ossetian @ 6.11
9 87.2% West_Sicilian + 12.8% Abhkasian @ 6.12
10 85% West_Sicilian + 15% Kabardin @ 6.17
11 60.6% Iranian_Jewish + 39.4% French_Basque @ 6.19
12 81.5% West_Sicilian + 18.5% Iranian @ 6.19
13 73.4% Greek + 26.6% Lebanese_Muslim @ 6.19
14 63% Sephardic_Jewish + 37% Bulgarian @ 6.22
15 80.5% West_Sicilian + 19.5% Georgian_Jewish @ 6.22
16 62.5% Lebanese_Muslim + 37.5% Southwest_French @ 6.24
17 67.8% Lebanese_Muslim + 32.2% French_Basque @ 6.27
18 83.5% West_Sicilian + 16.5% Kumyk @ 6.28
19 85.5% West_Sicilian + 14.5% Balkar @ 6.31
20 51.4% Iranian_Jewish + 48.6% Spanish_Valencia @ 6.35


Dodecad:

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 34.61
2 Atlantic_Med 26.05
3 North_European 16.91
4 Southwest_Asian 11.38
5 Gedrosia 7.58
6 Northwest_African 3.03
7 South_Asian 0.36
8 Southeast_Asian 0.07

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek (Dodecad) 6.36
2 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 6.58
3 Sicilian (Dodecad) 6.9
4 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 7.17
5 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 7.59
6 C_Italian (Dodecad) 9.24
7 O_Italian (Dodecad) 10.74
8 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 11.86
9 Tuscan (HGDP) 12.95
10 TSI30 (Metspalu) 14.08
11 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 14.35
12 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 18.25
13 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 18.79
14 Turkish (Dodecad) 18.87
15 Cypriots (Behar) 19.13
16 N_Italian (Dodecad) 19.59
17 Romanians (Behar) 19.8
18 North_Italian (HGDP) 21.25
19 Turks (Behar) 21.3
20 Lebanese (Behar) 22.58

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 67.1% Cypriots (Behar) + 32.9% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) @ 1.86
2 69.8% Cypriots (Behar) + 30.2% Argyll (1000Genomes) @ 1.92
3 70.3% Cypriots (Behar) + 29.7% Orkney (1000Genomes) @ 1.94
4 68.7% Cypriots (Behar) + 31.3% CEU30 (1000Genomes) @ 1.97
5 68.1% Cypriots (Behar) + 31.9% Dutch (Dodecad) @ 1.98
6 68.8% Cypriots (Behar) + 31.2% English (Dodecad) @ 1.99
7 70.2% Cypriots (Behar) + 29.8% Orcadian (HGDP) @ 2.01
8 68.5% Cypriots (Behar) + 31.5% Kent (1000Genomes) @ 2.07
9 70% Cypriots (Behar) + 30% Irish (Dodecad) @ 2.07
10 69.5% Cypriots (Behar) + 30.5% British_Isles (Dodecad) @ 2.16
11 69.4% Cypriots (Behar) + 30.6% British (Dodecad) @ 2.3
12 69.1% Cypriots (Behar) + 30.9% Cornwall (1000Genomes) @ 2.37
13 71.3% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 28.7% Druze (HGDP) @ 2.51
14 73.2% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 26.8% Georgia_Jews (Behar) @ 2.58
15 74.7% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 25.3% Iranian_Jews (Behar) @ 2.72
16 73.9% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 26.1% Iraq_Jews (Behar) @ 2.83
17 68.4% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 31.6% Lebanese (Behar) @ 2.94
18 63% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 37% Romanians (Behar) @ 3.02
19 71.9% Cypriots (Behar) + 28.1% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 3.02
20 61.1% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 38.9% Bulgarian (Dodecad) @ 3.03


Interesting. Wich are the main phenotypes of Apulians?

[Lauχum]

Apulians are much closer to mainland Greeks than most Sicilians/Calabrians. They also do have higher Steppe.

I have all the kits so I can do them for whichever calculators people want.


Person 1:

MDLP:

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 37.38
2 European_Early_Farmers 23.28
3 European_Hunters_Gatherers 16.56
4 Near_East 9.88
5 North_African 5.70
6 South_Central_Asian 5.27


Finished reading population data. 620 populations found.
23 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Ashkenazi_ @ 4.072636
2 Ashkenazi_Jew_ @ 4.848202
3 Sicilian_Siracusa_ @ 5.339197
4 Greek_Peloponnesos_ @ 5.470904
5 Sicilian_West_ @ 5.889144
6 Central_Greek_ @ 6.029080
7 Sicilian_East_ @ 6.177156
8 Greek_ @ 6.405820
9 Romanian_Jew_ @ 6.516765
10 Greek_Athens_ @ 6.602011
11 Greek_Thessaly_ @ 6.608042
12 Sicilian_Trapani_ @ 6.888215
13 Greek_Thessaloniki_ @ 7.051401
14 Greek_Northwest_ @ 7.076319
15 Albanian_Tirana_ @ 7.158050
16 Italian_South_ @ 7.378906
17 Sicilian_Center_ @ 8.018457
18 Sicilian_Agrigento_ @ 8.150336
19 Greek_Phokaia_ @ 8.166574
20 Greek_Macedonia_ @ 8.276116

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Greek_Northwest_ +50% Sicilian_East_ @ 1.781704


Eurogenes:

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 25.32
2 West_Med 17.81
3 Atlantic 13.01
4 North_Sea 12.67
5 West_Asian 11.84
6 Baltic 8.29
7 Red_Sea 7.03
8 Eastern_Euro 3.6
9 Northeast_African 0.41
10 Oceanian 0.03
11 Amerindian 0.01
12 Siberian 0.01

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 East_Sicilian 4.4
2 Central_Greek 4.74
3 Ashkenazi 5.26
4 Greek_Thessaly 5.4
5 Italian_Abruzzo 5.66
6 West_Sicilian 6.64
7 South_Italian 7.18
8 Greek 7.24
9 Tuscan 8.16
10 Italian_Jewish 10.29
11 Sephardic_Jewish 11.65
12 Algerian_Jewish 12.03
13 Bulgarian 13.16
14 North_Italian 14.27
15 Romanian 14.89
16 Tunisian_Jewish 15.71
17 Libyan_Jewish 16.18
18 Serbian 17.79
19 Cyprian 18.3
20 Spanish_Extremadura 21.16

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 67.2% Greek_Thessaly + 32.8% Italian_Jewish @ 2.27
2 70.1% Greek_Thessaly + 29.9% Sephardic_Jewish @ 2.33
3 56.8% East_Sicilian + 43.2% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.46
4 71.4% Greek_Thessaly + 28.6% Algerian_Jewish @ 2.68
5 76.9% Greek_Thessaly + 23.1% Tunisian_Jewish @ 2.74
6 87.9% East_Sicilian + 12.1% Hungarian @ 2.78
7 63.2% Ashkenazi + 36.8% Tuscan @ 2.79
8 91.5% East_Sicilian + 8.5% North_Swedish @ 2.86
9 89.4% East_Sicilian + 10.6% East_German @ 2.87
10 90.6% East_Sicilian + 9.4% Ukrainian @ 2.89
11 91.6% East_Sicilian + 8.4% Swedish @ 2.9
12 84.2% East_Sicilian + 15.8% Serbian @ 2.91
13 90.4% East_Sicilian + 9.6% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.91
14 91.7% East_Sicilian + 8.3% Finnish @ 2.92
15 91.7% East_Sicilian + 8.3% Norwegian @ 2.92
16 92.2% East_Sicilian + 7.8% Estonian @ 2.93
17 91.5% East_Sicilian + 8.5% Southwest_Finnish @ 2.94
18 89.3% East_Sicilian + 10.7% West_German @ 2.94
19 92.1% East_Sicilian + 7.9% West_Norwegian @ 2.96
20 90.8% East_Sicilian + 9.2% South_Polish @ 3.01


Dodecad:

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 32.16
2 Atlantic_Med 28.06
3 North_European 18.12
4 Southwest_Asian 13.36
5 Gedrosia 5.13
6 Northwest_African 2.53
7 Southeast_Asian 0.55
8 Siberian 0.09

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek (Dodecad) 6.41
2 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 7.3
3 Sicilian (Dodecad) 7.49
4 C_Italian (Dodecad) 7.79
5 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 8.32
6 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 8.64
7 O_Italian (Dodecad) 8.92
8 Tuscan (HGDP) 11.25
9 TSI30 (Metspalu) 12.1
10 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 13.08
11 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 14.84
12 N_Italian (Dodecad) 17.36
13 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 17.44
14 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 17.79
15 Romanians (Behar) 18.76
16 North_Italian (HGDP) 18.89
17 Cypriots (Behar) 21.33
18 Turkish (Dodecad) 22.46
19 Lebanese (Behar) 24.53
20 Turks (Behar) 24.89

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 78.9% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 21.1% Samaritians (Behar) @ 1.78
2 90% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 10% Finnish (Dodecad) @ 2.29
3 89.8% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 10.2% FIN30 (1000Genomes) @ 2.34
4 89.9% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 10.1% Lithuanians (Behar) @ 2.56
5 71.8% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 28.2% Hungarians (Behar) @ 2.56
6 89.4% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 10.6% Lithuanian (Dodecad) @ 2.59
7 84.2% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) + 15.8% Argyll (1000Genomes) @ 2.62
8 88.4% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 11.6% Russian (HGDP) @ 2.64
9 87.6% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 12.4% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) @ 2.65
10 87.3% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 12.7% Polish (Dodecad) @ 2.65
11 88.3% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 11.7% Belorussian (Behar) @ 2.7
12 84.4% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) + 15.6% Orcadian (HGDP) @ 2.71
13 84.5% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) + 15.5% Orkney (1000Genomes) @ 2.72
14 84.4% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) + 15.6% Irish (Dodecad) @ 2.73
15 87% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 13% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) @ 2.75
16 84% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) + 16% British (Dodecad) @ 2.79
17 82.5% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) + 17.5% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) @ 2.81
18 83.6% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) + 16.4% English (Dodecad) @ 2.83
19 83.8% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) + 16.2% Cornwall (1000Genomes) @ 2.84
20 83.6% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) + 16.4% CEU30 (1000Genomes) @ 2.84



Person 2:

MDLP:


# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 39.05
2 European_Early_Farmers 20.43
3 European_Hunters_Gatherers 17.38
4 Near_East 8.45
5 South_Central_Asian 5.60
6 North_African 4.07
7 Melano_Polynesian 2.43
8 Ancestral_Altaic 1.02


Finished reading population data. 620 populations found.
23 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Central_Greek_ @ 4.344778
2 Greek_ @ 4.397180
3 Greek_Peloponnesos_ @ 5.022043
4 Greek_Athens_ @ 5.388346
5 Greek_Macedonia_ @ 5.604000
6 Greek_Thessaloniki_ @ 5.835278
7 Ashkenazi_ @ 5.910743
8 Greek_Thessaly_ @ 6.172535
9 Albanian_Tirana_ @ 6.638066
10 Romanian_Jew_ @ 6.870892
11 Ashkenazi_Jew_ @ 7.104906
12 Greek_Northwest_ @ 7.323052
13 Greek_Phokaia_ @ 7.475049
14 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain_ @ 7.494841
15 Italian_South_ @ 7.512693
16 Sicilian_Siracusa_ @ 8.393117
17 Cretan_ @ 8.755084
18 Sicilian_West_ @ 9.034920
19 Sicilian_East_ @ 9.041382
20 Kosovar_ @ 9.174774

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Bulgarian_ +50% Greek_Islands_ @ 2.938741


Eurogenes:

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 26.88
2 West_Med 17.78
3 West_Asian 14.99
4 North_Sea 11.89
5 Atlantic 11.5
6 Baltic 9.45
7 Eastern_Euro 3.13
8 Red_Sea 2.51
9 Oceanian 1.39
10 Amerindian 0.49

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Central_Greek 4.16
2 East_Sicilian 5.98
3 Greek_Thessaly 6.07
4 South_Italian 6.73
5 Greek 6.88
6 Italian_Abruzzo 7
7 Ashkenazi 7.56
8 West_Sicilian 8.97
9 Tuscan 10.96
10 Italian_Jewish 11.45
11 Sephardic_Jewish 12.95
12 Algerian_Jewish 13.13
13 Bulgarian 13.49
14 Romanian 15.67
15 Tunisian_Jewish 16.62
16 North_Italian 16.73
17 Cyprian 17.13
18 Libyan_Jewish 17.24
19 Serbian 19.2
20 Turkish 19.44

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 66.9% Central_Greek + 33.1% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.32
2 53.6% Greek_Thessaly + 46.4% South_Italian @ 3.36
3 77.3% Greek_Thessaly + 22.7% Cyprian @ 3.56
4 94.8% Central_Greek + 5.2% Ukrainian @ 3.76
5 94.7% Central_Greek + 5.3% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3.76
6 93.2% Central_Greek + 6.8% Moldavian @ 3.78
7 95.9% Central_Greek + 4.1% Estonian @ 3.8
8 96% Central_Greek + 4% Lithuanian @ 3.8
9 93.9% Central_Greek + 6.1% Hungarian @ 3.8
10 95.3% Central_Greek + 4.7% South_Polish @ 3.83
11 88.9% Central_Greek + 11.1% Bulgarian @ 3.83
12 94.4% Central_Greek + 5.6% Croatian @ 3.86
13 90.9% Central_Greek + 9.1% Romanian @ 3.87
14 95.9% Central_Greek + 4.1% Southwest_Russian @ 3.87
15 96.1% Central_Greek + 3.9% Finnish @ 3.88
16 95.9% Central_Greek + 4.1% Polish @ 3.88
17 96.1% Central_Greek + 3.9% Belorussian @ 3.88
18 95.9% Central_Greek + 4.1% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 3.88
19 96.4% Central_Greek + 3.6% La_Brana-1 @ 3.9
20 96.3% Central_Greek + 3.7% Swedish @ 3.9


Dodecad:

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 34
2 Atlantic_Med 26.6
3 North_European 17.8
4 Southwest_Asian 10.88
5 Gedrosia 7.58
6 Northwest_African 2.49
7 East_Asian 0.66

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek (Dodecad) 5.92
2 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 7.2
3 Sicilian (Dodecad) 7.52
4 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 8.16
5 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 8.53
6 C_Italian (Dodecad) 8.57
7 O_Italian (Dodecad) 9.6
8 Tuscan (HGDP) 12.05
9 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 13
10 TSI30 (Metspalu) 13.17
11 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 15.37
12 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 17.3
13 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 17.82
14 N_Italian (Dodecad) 18.52
15 Romanians (Behar) 18.81
16 Turkish (Dodecad) 19.62
17 Cypriots (Behar) 20.26
18 North_Italian (HGDP) 20.26
19 Turks (Behar) 22.06
20 Lebanese (Behar) 23.75

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 65% Cypriots (Behar) + 35% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) @ 1.58
2 66.8% Cypriots (Behar) + 33.2% CEU30 (1000Genomes) @ 1.72
3 66.2% Cypriots (Behar) + 33.8% Dutch (Dodecad) @ 1.74
4 66.9% Cypriots (Behar) + 33.1% English (Dodecad) @ 1.76
5 68.5% Cypriots (Behar) + 31.5% Orkney (1000Genomes) @ 1.79
6 68% Cypriots (Behar) + 32% Argyll (1000Genomes) @ 1.82
7 66.5% Cypriots (Behar) + 33.5% Kent (1000Genomes) @ 1.84
8 68.4% Cypriots (Behar) + 31.6% Orcadian (HGDP) @ 1.89
9 67.7% Cypriots (Behar) + 32.3% British_Isles (Dodecad) @ 1.94
10 68.2% Cypriots (Behar) + 31.8% Irish (Dodecad) @ 1.94
11 67.6% Cypriots (Behar) + 32.4% British (Dodecad) @ 2.17
12 76% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 24% Georgia_Jews (Behar) @ 2.2
13 67.2% Cypriots (Behar) + 32.8% Cornwall (1000Genomes) @ 2.24
14 77.4% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 22.6% Iranian_Jews (Behar) @ 2.48
15 92.9% Greek (Dodecad) + 7.1% Brahui (HGDP) @ 2.53
16 92% Greek (Dodecad) + 8% Makrani (HGDP) @ 2.58
17 74.6% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 25.4% Druze (HGDP) @ 2.59
18 92.4% Greek (Dodecad) + 7.6% Balochi (HGDP) @ 2.65
19 76.7% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 23.3% Iraq_Jews (Behar) @ 2.66
20 88.2% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 11.8% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 2.69



Person 3:

MDLP:

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 40.35
2 European_Early_Farmers 20.23
3 European_Hunters_Gatherers 17.86
4 Near_East 9.31
5 South_Central_Asian 4.61
6 North_African 3.73
7 Melano_Polynesian 1.15
8 Tungus-Altaic 1.11


Finished reading population data. 620 populations found.
23 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Greek_ @ 3.225657
2 Central_Greek_ @ 4.238650
3 Greek_Macedonia_ @ 4.315877
4 Greek_Athens_ @ 4.732475
5 Greek_Peloponnesos_ @ 4.759110
6 Greek_Thessaloniki_ @ 5.599764
7 Ashkenazi_ @ 5.870365
8 Greek_Thessaly_ @ 5.997617
9 Albanian_Tirana_ @ 6.497821
10 Romanian_Jew_ @ 6.801586
11 Greek_Phokaia_ @ 6.843319
12 Italian_South_ @ 6.883557
13 Ashkenazi_Jew_ @ 7.825966
14 Greek_Northwest_ @ 7.947854
15 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain_ @ 8.208500
16 Cretan_ @ 8.777082
17 Sicilian_Siracusa_ @ 8.799623
18 Sicilian_Center_ @ 9.252329
19 Sicilian_East_ @ 9.252908
20 Kosovar_ @ 9.414076

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Bulgarian_ +50% Greek_Islands_ @ 2.535726


Eurogenes:

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 28.97
2 West_Med 16.32
3 West_Asian 14.91
4 Atlantic 12.23
5 North_Sea 11.27
6 Baltic 9.05
7 Red_Sea 3.14
8 Eastern_Euro 2.48
9 Oceanian 1.09
10 Southeast_Asian 0.54

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Central_Greek 3.72
2 East_Sicilian 5.34
3 South_Italian 5.5
4 Italian_Abruzzo 6.65
5 Ashkenazi 6.98
6 Greek_Thessaly 7.66
7 Greek 7.66
8 West_Sicilian 8.39
9 Italian_Jewish 9.9
10 Sephardic_Jewish 11.2
11 Algerian_Jewish 11.67
12 Tuscan 11.67
13 Bulgarian 14.69
14 Tunisian_Jewish 14.78
15 Cyprian 15.48
16 Libyan_Jewish 15.87
17 Romanian 16.89
18 North_Italian 17.79
19 Turkish 18.55
20 Lebanese_Muslim 18.66

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 96% Central_Greek + 4% Lebanese_Druze @ 3.59
2 62% South_Italian + 38% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.62
3 88.8% Central_Greek + 11.2% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.63
4 99.4% Central_Greek + 0.6% Papuan @ 3.65
5 99.3% Central_Greek + 0.7% NAN_Melanesian @ 3.65
6 98.3% Central_Greek + 1.7% La_Brana-1 @ 3.66
7 98.5% Central_Greek + 1.5% Lithuanian @ 3.67
8 98.5% Central_Greek + 1.5% Estonian @ 3.67
9 98.5% Central_Greek + 1.5% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3.69
10 98.6% Central_Greek + 1.4% Ukrainian @ 3.69
11 98.8% Central_Greek + 1.2% Belorussian @ 3.69
12 91% South_Italian + 9% Estonian @ 3.7
13 98.8% Central_Greek + 1.2% Southwest_Russian @ 3.7
14 98.4% Central_Greek + 1.6% Hungarian @ 3.7
15 98.9% Central_Greek + 1.1% Finnish @ 3.7
16 98.8% Central_Greek + 1.2% South_Polish @ 3.7
17 98.3% Central_Greek + 1.7% Lebanese_Christian @ 3.7
18 99% Central_Greek + 1% Swedish @ 3.7
19 94.3% Central_Greek + 5.7% Greek @ 3.7
20 98.9% Central_Greek + 1.1% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 3.7


Dodecad:

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 34.68
2 Atlantic_Med 26.72
3 North_European 16.79
4 Southwest_Asian 11.43
5 Gedrosia 6.95
6 Northwest_African 2.59
7 East_Asian 0.74
8 East_African 0.12

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek (Dodecad) 5.81
2 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 6.03
3 Sicilian (Dodecad) 6.36
4 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 6.95
5 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 7.28
6 C_Italian (Dodecad) 8.58
7 O_Italian (Dodecad) 10.35
8 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 11.79
9 Tuscan (HGDP) 12.29
10 TSI30 (Metspalu) 13.5
11 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 14.33
12 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 18.3
13 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 18.74
14 Cypriots (Behar) 19.14
15 N_Italian (Dodecad) 19.17
16 Turkish (Dodecad) 19.22
17 Romanians (Behar) 19.84
18 North_Italian (HGDP) 20.73
19 Turks (Behar) 21.74
20 Lebanese (Behar) 22.96

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 68.7% Cypriots (Behar) + 31.3% CEU30 (1000Genomes) @ 1.59
2 68.7% Cypriots (Behar) + 31.3% English (Dodecad) @ 1.61
3 68.4% Cypriots (Behar) + 31.6% Kent (1000Genomes) @ 1.62
4 69.4% Cypriots (Behar) + 30.6% British_Isles (Dodecad) @ 1.65
5 70.2% Cypriots (Behar) + 29.8% Orkney (1000Genomes) @ 1.72
6 67% Cypriots (Behar) + 33% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) @ 1.75
7 70.1% Cypriots (Behar) + 29.9% Orcadian (HGDP) @ 1.75
8 70% Cypriots (Behar) + 30% Irish (Dodecad) @ 1.76
9 68% Cypriots (Behar) + 32% Dutch (Dodecad) @ 1.78
10 69.7% Cypriots (Behar) + 30.3% Argyll (1000Genomes) @ 1.84
11 69.3% Cypriots (Behar) + 30.7% British (Dodecad) @ 1.85
12 69% Cypriots (Behar) + 31% Cornwall (1000Genomes) @ 1.9
13 72.1% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 27.9% Druze (HGDP) @ 1.99
14 90.2% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 9.8% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 2.35
15 90.6% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 9.4% Russian (Dodecad) @ 2.58
16 64.8% Cypriots (Behar) + 35.2% French (Dodecad) @ 2.58
17 90.5% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 9.5% Russian_B (Behar) @ 2.59
18 90.8% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 9.2% Russian (HGDP) @ 2.63
19 77.1% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 22.9% Bulgarian (Dodecad) @ 2.7
20 74.4% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 25.6% Georgia_Jews (Behar) @ 2.71



Person 4:

MDLP:

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 37.44
2 European_Early_Farmers 21.53
3 European_Hunters_Gatherers 13.77
4 Near_East 10.04
5 South_Central_Asian 7.22
6 North_African 6.06
7 Ancestral_Altaic 2.30


Finished reading population data. 620 populations found.
23 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Ashkenazi_Jew_ @ 3.477170
2 Sicilian_West_ @ 4.662669
3 Ashkenazi_ @ 5.169574
4 Sicilian_East_ @ 5.409240
5 Sicilian_Siracusa_ @ 5.412880
6 Romanian_Jew_ @ 5.673872
7 Cretan_ @ 5.852981
8 Sicilian_Trapani_ @ 6.557049
9 Sicilian_Agrigento_ @ 6.717422
10 Greek_Athens_ @ 6.802147
11 Greek_ @ 6.969787
12 Italian_South_ @ 7.062784
13 Maltese_ @ 7.618162
14 Central_Greek_ @ 7.762473
15 Greek_Phokaia_ @ 8.073081
16 Sicilian_Center_ @ 8.142717
17 Greek_Peloponnesos_ @ 8.360151
18 French_Jew_ @ 8.416877
19 Greek_Macedonia_ @ 8.768769
20 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain_ @ 9.358796

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Kosovar_ +50% Syrian_Jew_ @ 2.306931


Eurogenes:

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 27.67
2 Atlantic 18.92
3 West_Asian 16.51
4 West_Med 13.22
5 Baltic 7.36
6 Eastern_Euro 5.26
7 Red_Sea 5.08
8 North_Sea 4.74
9 Northeast_African 0.67
10 Oceanian 0.59

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Italian_Abruzzo 7.56
2 Central_Greek 7.91
3 East_Sicilian 8.38
4 West_Sicilian 8.42
5 South_Italian 8.48
6 Greek 8.84
7 Ashkenazi 9.59
8 Sephardic_Jewish 10.48
9 Italian_Jewish 11.86
10 Algerian_Jewish 12.63
11 Greek_Thessaly 12.97
12 Tuscan 13.13
13 Tunisian_Jewish 14.29
14 Bulgarian 15.67
15 Cyprian 16.25
16 Turkish 17.17
17 Romanian 18.11
18 Lebanese_Muslim 18.47
19 Libyan_Jewish 18.51
20 North_Italian 18.88

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 72.8% West_Sicilian + 27.2% Turkish @ 5.87
2 79.9% West_Sicilian + 20.1% Kurdish @ 5.9
3 84.8% West_Sicilian + 15.2% Adygei @ 5.97
4 55% Iranian_Jewish + 45% Southwest_French @ 5.99
5 77.9% West_Sicilian + 22.1% Azeri @ 6.03
6 57.1% Greek + 42.9% Sephardic_Jewish @ 6.08
7 86% West_Sicilian + 14% Georgian @ 6.11
8 86.1% West_Sicilian + 13.9% North_Ossetian @ 6.11
9 87.2% West_Sicilian + 12.8% Abhkasian @ 6.12
10 85% West_Sicilian + 15% Kabardin @ 6.17
11 60.6% Iranian_Jewish + 39.4% French_Basque @ 6.19
12 81.5% West_Sicilian + 18.5% Iranian @ 6.19
13 73.4% Greek + 26.6% Lebanese_Muslim @ 6.19
14 63% Sephardic_Jewish + 37% Bulgarian @ 6.22
15 80.5% West_Sicilian + 19.5% Georgian_Jewish @ 6.22
16 62.5% Lebanese_Muslim + 37.5% Southwest_French @ 6.24
17 67.8% Lebanese_Muslim + 32.2% French_Basque @ 6.27
18 83.5% West_Sicilian + 16.5% Kumyk @ 6.28
19 85.5% West_Sicilian + 14.5% Balkar @ 6.31
20 51.4% Iranian_Jewish + 48.6% Spanish_Valencia @ 6.35


Dodecad:

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 34.61
2 Atlantic_Med 26.05
3 North_European 16.91
4 Southwest_Asian 11.38
5 Gedrosia 7.58
6 Northwest_African 3.03
7 South_Asian 0.36
8 Southeast_Asian 0.07

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek (Dodecad) 6.36
2 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 6.58
3 Sicilian (Dodecad) 6.9
4 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 7.17
5 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 7.59
6 C_Italian (Dodecad) 9.24
7 O_Italian (Dodecad) 10.74
8 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 11.86
9 Tuscan (HGDP) 12.95
10 TSI30 (Metspalu) 14.08
11 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 14.35
12 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 18.25
13 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 18.79
14 Turkish (Dodecad) 18.87
15 Cypriots (Behar) 19.13
16 N_Italian (Dodecad) 19.59
17 Romanians (Behar) 19.8
18 North_Italian (HGDP) 21.25
19 Turks (Behar) 21.3
20 Lebanese (Behar) 22.58

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 67.1% Cypriots (Behar) + 32.9% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) @ 1.86
2 69.8% Cypriots (Behar) + 30.2% Argyll (1000Genomes) @ 1.92
3 70.3% Cypriots (Behar) + 29.7% Orkney (1000Genomes) @ 1.94
4 68.7% Cypriots (Behar) + 31.3% CEU30 (1000Genomes) @ 1.97
5 68.1% Cypriots (Behar) + 31.9% Dutch (Dodecad) @ 1.98
6 68.8% Cypriots (Behar) + 31.2% English (Dodecad) @ 1.99
7 70.2% Cypriots (Behar) + 29.8% Orcadian (HGDP) @ 2.01
8 68.5% Cypriots (Behar) + 31.5% Kent (1000Genomes) @ 2.07
9 70% Cypriots (Behar) + 30% Irish (Dodecad) @ 2.07
10 69.5% Cypriots (Behar) + 30.5% British_Isles (Dodecad) @ 2.16
11 69.4% Cypriots (Behar) + 30.6% British (Dodecad) @ 2.3
12 69.1% Cypriots (Behar) + 30.9% Cornwall (1000Genomes) @ 2.37
13 71.3% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 28.7% Druze (HGDP) @ 2.51
14 73.2% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 26.8% Georgia_Jews (Behar) @ 2.58
15 74.7% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 25.3% Iranian_Jews (Behar) @ 2.72
16 73.9% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 26.1% Iraq_Jews (Behar) @ 2.83
17 68.4% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 31.6% Lebanese (Behar) @ 2.94
18 63% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 37% Romanians (Behar) @ 3.02
19 71.9% Cypriots (Behar) + 28.1% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 3.02
20 61.1% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 38.9% Bulgarian (Dodecad) @ 3.03


1st, 2nd and 4th are from Bari, Brindisi and Taranto right? Where is number 3 from?

[Sikeliot]

1st, 2nd and 4th are from Bari, Brindisi and Taranto right? Where is number 3 from?

Somewhere called Monopoli.

[Lauχum]

double post

[gıulıoımpa]

Interesting. Wich are the main phenotypes of Apulians?

around those line , dinaro alpinoids with aslo light tendencies in majority


https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/27/Lino_Banfi.jpg


https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3c/Riccardo_Scamarcio.jpg/220px-Riccardo_Scamarcio.jpg


http://biografieonline.it/img/bio/Al_Bano.jpg


https://givemesport.azureedge.net/images/18/07/19/e251174e211c64bc232bd69bf651a95b/960.jpg

minority composed also by more dolico tendency

[Visage pâle]

Interesting, imo apulian are the lightest southern italians maybe it cames from the Steppes.

[Joso]

around those line , dinaro alpinoids with aslo light tendencies in majority


https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/27/Lino_Banfi.jpg


https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3c/Riccardo_Scamarcio.jpg/220px-Riccardo_Scamarcio.jpg


https://givemesport.azureedge.net/images/18/07/19/e251174e211c64bc232bd69bf651a95b/960.jpg

minority composed also by more dolico tendency

Cool

[Teucer]

Yes because that area of Southern Italy was inhabited by Illyrians from the Adriatic before the Greeks got there.

That is why they are also matching with Balkanites

Edit: May also be why they are closer to mainland Greeks today than other South Italians. Both have extra Balkan

[Lauχum]

Yes because that area of Southern Italy was inhabited by Illyrians from the Adriatic before the Greeks got there.

That is why they are also matching with Balkanites

IIRC there was a study on YDNA which found that Apulians have the highest frequencies of J2b and E-V13 in Southern Italy, which are most important today in Albanians. This further supports considerable ancestry from Messapian/Illyrian settlers in modern Apulians.

[Sikeliot]

around those line , dinaro alpinoids with aslo light tendencies in majority


https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/27/Lino_Banfi.jpg


This look is common in Peloponnesians.

[Sikeliot]

IIRC there was a study on YDNA which found that Apulians have the highest frequencies of J2b and E-V13 in Southern Italy, which are most important today in Albanians. This further supports considerable ancestry from Messapian/Illyrian settlers in modern Apulians.

The other factor could be Doric Greek input from the Peloponnese.

Interestingly today, some Apulians are genetically "south" of some mainland Greeks.

[Teucer]

The other factor could be Doric Greek input from the Peloponnese.

Interestingly today, some Apulians are genetically "south" of some mainland Greeks.

Is likely a mixture of both, but the Ilyrrian factor is more

[Lavrentis]

Yes because that area of Southern Italy was inhabited by Illyrians from the Adriatic before the Greeks got there.

That is why they are also matching with Balkanites

Edit: May also be why they are closer to mainland Greeks today than other South Italians. Both have extra Balkan

The Apulians that Sikeliot posted are genetically closer to Greeks than to Albanians though

[Lavrentis]

This look is common in Peloponnesians.

Yes, he looks very Greek. The rest not so much

[wvwvw]

Yes because that area of Southern Italy was inhabited by Illyrians from the Adriatic before the Greeks got there.

That is why they are also matching with Balkanites

Edit: May also be why they are closer to mainland Greeks today than other South Italians. Both have extra Balkan

Wrong. Greeks were there since Minoan and Mycenean times. The Illyrians arrived 1000 years after the Greeks.

[gıulıoımpa]

This look is common in Peloponnesians.

yes, lino banfi looks almost sterotypical



http://images2.corrieredelmezzogiorno.corriereobjects.it/methode_image/socialshare/2018/04/10/1a095b5e-3c98-11e8-8230-4c035273e8b5.jpg

this president of Puglia region also seems to have a northern greek/macedonian vibe

[Sikeliot]

The Apulians that Sikeliot posted are genetically closer to Greeks than to Albanians though

What shocks me is how far Apulians and Calabrians are. It's basically the difference between a Peloponnesian and a Sephardi Jew.

[wvwvw]

yes, lino banfi looks almost sterotypical



http://images2.corrieredelmezzogiorno.corriereobjects.it/methode_image/socialshare/2018/04/10/1a095b5e-3c98-11e8-8230-4c035273e8b5.jpg

this president of Puglia region also seems to have a northern greek/macedonian vibe

He gives me a Spanish vibe

[gıulıoımpa]

He gives me a Spanish vibe
can probably pass as basque too, right. he is too broad headed though imo (does not look like in this pic, he has an inverse trapezoid kind of head shape which is a thig i associate with albanians generally)

[Sikeliot]

The biggest clue to me that it is Doric Greek input responsible, is that people in Syracuse are very similar genetically to them.

[wvwvw]

What shocks me is how far Apulians and Calabrians are. It's basically the difference between a Peloponnesian and a Sephardi Jew.

Which other Southern Italians are closest to them?

[Teucer]

Wrong. Greeks were there since Minoan and Mycenean times. The Illyrians arrived 1000 years after the Greeks.

Illyrians started colonised the area before 16th century BCE. Are you saying Greeks started colonising Apulia around 2500 BCE?

[Sikeliot]

Which other Southern Italians are closest to them?

Syracuse.

[wvwvw]

Illyrians started colonised the area before 16th century BCE. Are you saying Greeks started colonising Apulia around 2500 BCE?

Myceneans were the first to colonize Apulia.


Apulia is one of the richest archaeological regions in Italy. It was first colonized by Mycenaean Greeks.[5]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apulia

And before the Myceneans, half of Italy was a colony of Cretan Kronos (Saturn) and was called Saturnia.

http://www.tertullian.org/fathers/origo_01_trans.htm

Illyrian did not exist until about 1390 BC when it was founded by Illurus the son of Cadmus.

[wvwvw]

Syracuse.

What about Basilicata?

[Teucer]

Myceneans were the first to colonize Apulia.



And before the Myceneans, half of Italy was a colony of Cretan Kronos (Saturn) and was called Saturnia.

http://www.tertullian.org/fathers/origo_01_trans.htm

Illyrian did not exist until about 1390 BC when it was founded by Illurus the son of Cadmus.

Why do you believe Greek mythology to be actual history?

[Coolguy1]

Apulians are showing incredible continuity with the ancient Minoan samples. They are very similar to southeast Sicilians as well as Lakonian Greeks.

[1] "distance%=2.9279 / distance=0.029279"

Apulian (N=4)

Minoan_Lasithi (N=5) 71.70
Yamnaya (N=4) 26.15
Belorussian (N=3) 2.15
Corded_Ware_Germany (N=2) 0.00

They can be modeled as 70% Minoan and the rest steppe, in order words around 85% Mycenaean, the other 15% being additional steppe most likely from a Doric or Illyrian source.

[Sikeliot]

Apulians are showing incredible continuity with the ancient Minoan samples. They are very similar to southeast Sicilians as well as Lakonian Greeks.

[1] "distance%=2.9279 / distance=0.029279"

Apulian (N=4)

Minoan_Lasithi (N=5) 71.70
Yamnaya (N=4) 26.15
Belorussian (N=3) 2.15
Corded_Ware_Germany (N=2) 0.00

They can be modeled as 70% Minoan and the rest steppe, in order words around 85% Mycenaean, the other 15% being additional steppe most likely from a Doric or Illyrian source.


What is coming up "Belarusian" do you think is ancient Greek or do you think it is from a more recent Greek input (which would include Slavic)?

[brennus dux gallorum]

Yes because that area of Southern Italy was inhabited by Illyrians from the Adriatic before the Greeks got there.

That is why they are also matching with Balkanites

Edit: May also be why they are closer to mainland Greeks today than other South Italians. Both have extra Balkan

And to an even greater extent the rest of South Italy was colonized by Phoenicians before Greeks, and by Jewish converters (especially calabria) during medieval times, which gives a much better explanation of why Apulia is less distant from Greece than other parts of South Italy.

Furthermore, campania which is equally close to Greek mainland as Apulia is, didn't have illyrian colonies, so I don't think that your explanation is accurate, let alone that there is nothing "Albanian looking" about apulian types

[Sikeliot]

And to an even greater extent the rest of South Italy was colonized by Phoenicians before Greeks, and by Jewish converters (especially calabria) during medieval times, which gives a much better explanation of why Apulia is less distant from Greece than other parts of South Italy furthermore, campania which is equally close to Greek mainland as Apulia does, didn't have illyrian colonies

The Campanians I have results for tend to vary -- the northern and inland part of Campania are sort of transitional to Lazio, whereas the southern part to Calabria and Sicily.

[Coolguy1]

What is coming up "Belarusian" do you think is ancient Greek or do you think it is from a more recent Greek input (which would include Slavic)?

Most likely just ancient steppe, if I take out the Belorussian then it will transfer over to Yamnaya and still produce a good fit.

[Pubiczar]

Apulians are showing incredible continuity with the ancient Minoan samples. They are very similar to southeast Sicilians as well as Lakonian Greeks.

[1] "distance%=2.9279 / distance=0.029279"

Apulian (N=4)

Minoan_Lasithi (N=5) 71.70
Yamnaya (N=4) 26.15
Belorussian (N=3) 2.15
Corded_Ware_Germany (N=2) 0.00

They can be modeled as 70% Minoan and the rest steppe, in order words around 85% Mycenaean, the other 15% being additional steppe most likely from a Doric or Illyrian source.

What kind of spreadsheet and which calculator results are you using for that nMonte calculation?

[Coolguy1]

What kind of spreadsheet and which calculator results are you using for that nMonte calculation?

Im using dodecad k12b. Im creating new averages from samples I collect.

[Sikeliot]

Most likely just ancient steppe, if I take out the Belorussian then it will transfer over to Yamnaya and still produce a good fit.

I am making a thread with SE Sicilians, I hope you can model those and see how they compare.

[Nakama]

And to an even greater extent the rest of South Italy was colonized by Phoenicians before Greeks, and by Jewish converters (especially calabria) during medieval times, which gives a much better explanation of why Apulia is less distant from Greece than other parts of South Italy.

Furthermore, campania which is equally close to Greek mainland as Apulia is, didn't have illyrian colonies, so I don't think that your explanation is accurate

The better explanation is clear: Slavic blood in modern Greeks and Illyrian input in Apulians, I guess. Modern Greeks are very Slavic shifted if we go by the DNA posted in this forum, they can't be used as proxy to Minoans and Mycenaeans whom were more similar to Calabrians and Sicilians than to modern Greeks. Campania isn't close to Greek mainland in most tests if I recall correctly.

[Sikeliot]

The better explanation is clear: Slavic blood in modern Greeks and Illyrian input in Apulians, I guess. Modern Greeks are very Slavic shifted if we go by the DNA posted in this forum, they can't be used as proxy to Minoans and Mycenaeans whom were more similar to Calabrians and Sicilians than to modern Greeks. Campania isn't close to Greek mainland in most tests if I recall correctly.

I think Apulia has more recent Greek input from the Byzantine colonization.

[Sikeliot]

The better explanation is clear: Slavic blood in modern Greeks and Illyrian input in Apulians, I guess. Modern Greeks are very Slavic shifted if we go by the DNA posted in this forum, they can't be used as proxy to Minoans and Mycenaeans whom were more similar to Calabrians and Sicilians than to modern Greeks. Campania isn't close to Greek mainland in most tests if I recall correctly.

I think Apulia has more recent Greek input from the Byzantine colonization.

[Nakama]

I think Apulia has more recent Greek input from the Byzantine colonization.

Were they already very mixed with Slavs at that time?

[Sikeliot]

Were they already very mixed with Slavs at that time?

All it takes is a small amount of mainland Greek input from the last 1000 years to elevate the NE European in Apulians.

[brennus dux gallorum]

The better explanation is clear: Slavic blood in modern Greeks and Illyrian input in Apulians, I guess. Modern Greeks are very Slavic shifted if we go by the DNA posted in this forum, they can't be used as proxy to Minoans and Mycenaeans whom were more similar to Calabrians and Sicilians than to modern Greeks. Campania isn't close to Greek mainland in most tests if I recall correctly.

You are obviously not seeking serious answers right?

Slavic admixture in South mainland was found to be 1-15% in a study, which is much less than near eastern admixture in calabria, which has very little to do with Mycenaeans.

Let alone that illyrians themselves were not related to slavs, and that apulians have nothing illyrian on their facial structure

[Nakama]

You are obviously not seeking serious answers right?

Slavic admixture in South mainland was found to be 1-15% in a study, which is much less than near eastern admixture in calabria

Let alone that illyrians themselves were not related to slavs, and that apulians have nothing illyrian on their facial structure

Mainland Greeks are not only 1-15% Slavic. You guys are basically a Balkan population, the mixing with Slavs was significantly enough to change the genetic make-up of modern Greeks. All results I've seen from Mycenaeans were basically Siclian/Calabrian with more Sardinian and a bit less of the so callled ''near easterner'' (that is likely native to Calabria). Not a single one was similar to mainland Greeks.

Also, how do you know how Illyrians looked like? No one ever saw any of them, they are an extinct Balkan population.

[Lavrentis]

The better explanation is clear: Slavic blood in modern Greeks and Illyrian input in Apulians, I guess. Modern Greeks are very Slavic shifted if we go by the DNA posted in this forum, they can't be used as proxy to Minoans and Mycenaeans whom were more similar to Calabrians and Sicilians than to modern Greeks. Campania isn't close to Greek mainland in most tests if I recall correctly.

Modern Greeks are not a genetically homogeneous entity, but an entity united by language and religion. So you shouldn’t use the ‘modern Greeks’ argument in a discussion about genetics, and lump all Greeks under this label.

South Italians are closer to the ancient Greeks than someone from Macedonia or an Anatolian Greek is, but other Greeks such as island Greeks are probably closer to the ancient Greeks than a south Italian.

The Minoans are very close to Cretans: https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms2871

Myceaneans are basically Minoans with extra steppe, if I remember correctly.

[Sikeliot]

Modern Greeks are not a genetically homogeneous entity, but an entity united by language and religion. So you shouldn’t use the ‘modern Greeks’ argument in a discussion about genetics, and lump all Greeks under this label.

South Italians are closer to the ancient Greeks than someone from Macedonia or an Anatolian Greek is, but other Greeks such as island Greeks are probably closer to the ancient Greeks than a south Italian.

The Minoans are very close to Cretans: https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms2871

Myceaneans are basically Minoans with extra steppe, if I remember correctly.


Anatolian Greeks and most Cretans, most Aegean islanders and south Italians are more Near Eastern than the ancient samples. It is not just a matter of how much North European they have.

[Lavrentis]

Anatolian Greeks and most Cretans, most Aegean islanders and south Italians are more Near Eastern than the ancient samples. It is not just a matter of how much North European they have.

It is indeed a matter of who is the most MENA, or better, who is the most Jewish shifted, since most of the MENA in south Italy and Crete is Jewish related.

And Cretans cluster more north than south Italians, so they are less MENA/Jewish shifted. I say that as someone who wouldn’t mind more Jewish influence in his people since am of Jewish ancestry myself.

But I saw this PCA below and made my conclusions. Cretans are less MENA shifted than most south Italians/Greek islanders.

At least according to this (most of south Italians are not shown because they are located more eastern on this plot):

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180826/5bbff9eb8247a465afbf80c9e04bed89.png

[Sikeliot]

Here are southeastern Sicily for comparison:
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?257137-Southeast-Sicilian-GEDmatch-results-also-close-to-Apulia-and-mainland-Greece&p=5378012#post5378012

[Lavrentis]

South Italians also have their differences with the Myceaneans/Minoans.

Myceaneans/Minoans scored extremely low North African, south Italians score 5% on GEDmatch..

[Sikeliot]

It is indeed a matter of who is the most MENA, or better, who is the most Jewish shifted, since most of the MENA in south Italy and Crete is Jewish related.

And Cretans cluster more north than south Italians, so they are less MENA/Jewish shifted. I say that as someone who wouldn’t mind more Jewish influence in his people since am of Jewish ancestry myself.

But I saw this PCA and made my conclusions. Cretans are less MENA shifted than south Italians/Greek islanders.

At least according to this:

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180826/5bbff9eb8247a465afbf80c9e04bed89.png


I think there are two sets of islanders -- one that is closer to Apulians and Laconians (this would be Cyclades, some Cretans, and North Aegeans) and then one that is closer to the Calabrese (other Cretans, the Dodecanese, etc).

I wonder if Crete forms two clusters on a west vs east basis.

[jobodwannaa]

Interesting. Wich are the main phenotypes of Apulians?

Some random Apulians, all natives:

https://i.imgur.com/dej3pCB.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/RV5H1dQ.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/lKQsVM3.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/GGkahOA.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/vIoSc9l.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/Dk7XG4M.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/WjjWIDo.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/GwiYVZq.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/4blQrT4.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/onGgWgk.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/GnK9271.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/VBykERJ.jpg

[Sikeliot]

This man looks as Cretan as they get:

https://i.imgur.com/lKQsVM3.jpg

[brennus dux gallorum]

Mainland Greeks are not only 1-15% Slavic. You guys are basically a Balkan population, the mixing with Slavs was significantly enough to change the genetic make-up of modern Greeks. All results I've seen from Mycenaeans were basically Siclian/Calabrian with more Sardinian and a bit less of the so callled ''near easterner'' (that is likely native to Calabria). Not a single one was similar to mainland Greeks.

Also, how do you know how Illyrians looked like? No one ever saw any of them, they are an extinct Balkan population.

Yes, according to a study south Greek mainland is 1-15% Slavic, and no, we are not Balkan population when in South mainland first results are almost always abruzzo rather than Bulgaria

And the official study about Mycenaeans showed 70% similarity with modern Greeks, and mind that Mycenaeans are far from being the last Greek invaders in Greece, dorians were much more steppe and less neolithic than Mycenaeans who assimilated native pelasgians

[Sikeliot]

Yes, according to a study south Greek mainland is 1-15% Slavic, and no, we are not Balkan population when in South mainland first results are almost always abruzzo rather than Bulgaria

And the official study about Mycenaeans showed 70% similarity with modern Greeks, and mind that Mycenaeans are far from being the last Greek invaders in Greece, dorians were much more steppe and less neolithic than Mycenaeans who assimilated native pelasgians


Then some of the NE European in the Peloponnese must be ancient. Apulians seem most similar to Peloponnesians, Cyclades, etc. and have less Near Eastern than other parts of Sicily or Calabria.

[Joso]

Then some of the NE European in the Peloponnese must be ancient. Apulians seem most similar to Peloponnesians, Cyclades, etc. and have less Near Eastern than other parts of Sicily or Calabria.

Are Peloponnesians similar to Cypriots?

[Tauromachos]

Apulians are showing incredible continuity with the ancient Minoan samples. They are very similar to southeast Sicilians as well as Lakonian Greeks.

[1] "distance%=2.9279 / distance=0.029279"

Apulian (N=4)

Minoan_Lasithi (N=5) 71.70
Yamnaya (N=4) 26.15
Belorussian (N=3) 2.15
Corded_Ware_Germany (N=2) 0.00

They can be modeled as 70% Minoan and the rest steppe, in order words around 85% Mycenaean, the other 15% being additional steppe most likely from a Doric or Illyrian source.


I think there is a misconception when you say Steppe from the Doric source

I would say the Dorians themselves were just Greek people with some Steppe amdixture like these Apulians or South East Sicilian

That is 80% or so Mycanean/Minoan plus 15-20% Steppe or something

[Sikeliot]

Are Peloponnesians similar to Cypriots?

No.

[Tauromachos]

Cretans are less MENA shifted than most south Italians/Greek islanders.


No they are not

At least Crete as whole isn't

[Joso]

No.

But are not the both just insular Greeks?

[Tauromachos]

This man looks as Cretan as they get:

https://i.imgur.com/lKQsVM3.jpg

He doesn't imo

Cretans don't have to be blond alot of Cretans can be much darker and look less Northern than this man but he passes
and his eye have Cretan vibe yes

[Tauromachos]

Are Peloponnesians similar to Cypriots?

Indvidually ,there are Peloponesian people and Cypriots who look alike.yes

[Sikeliot]

He doesn't imo

Cretans don't have to be blond alot of Cretans can be much darker and look less Northern than this man but he passes
and his eye have Cretan vibe yes

This man isn't light and "northern" looking at all, in fact his facial structure is very southern.

[Lavrentis]

This man isn't light and "northern" looking at all, in fact his facial structure is very southern.

This, he looks very southern Euro by facial features. He’s just a little bit lighter than average

[Sikeliot]

This, he looks very southern Euro by facial features. He’s just a little bit lighter than average

Do you agree he looks Cretan? I have seen Cretans with that same facial structure with all sets of coloring.

I don't know what cybernautic is trying to do in that post but I don't agree with his thought.

[Lavrentis]

Do you agree he looks Cretan? I have seen Cretans with that same facial structure with all sets of coloring.

He does look Cretan, he would just be on the more lighter end of the spectrum. The average Cretan is a bit darker. But good observation nonetheless

[Tauromachos]

This man isn't light and "northern" looking at all, in fact his facial structure is very southern.

He is light and looks more Northern than other people with similar backgrounds

Yes his facial structure is Southern but not Semitic like but more Southern Greek"Cretan"
and he is fair enough to pass in a Country like Germany though many other Cretans and even Mainland Greeks wouldn't pass


There are two Greek members Freerostah and Sorcelow whom you claimed Serbian looking or something similar

Bothe are darker than this guy in all regards hairs,eyes, and tan and they wouldn't pass anywhere in North Europe as natives neither
in Germany

Everyone would guess them in these countries as people from the South either Greek,Italian,Iberian or even Turkish

[Sikeliot]

He is light and looks more Northern than other people with similar backgrounds

Yes his facial structure is Southern but not Semitic like but more Southern Greek"Cretan"
and he is fair enough to pass in a Country like Germany though many other Cretans and even Mainland Greeks wouldn't pass


There are two Greek members Freerostah and Sorcelow whom you claimed Serbian looking or something similar

Bothe are darker than this guy in all regards hairs,eyes, and tan and they wouldn't pass anywhere in North Europe as natives neither
in Germany

Everyone would guess them in these countries as people from the South either Greek,Italian,Iberian or even Turkish


He cannot pass in any Northern European country because his facial features do not look North European.

Freeroostah looks Bulgarian and Sorcelow looks Albanian, neither one looks southern Italian nor Iberian, and not Turkish either. And none of them look North European.

[Tauromachos]

He cannot pass in any Northern European country because his facial features do not look North European.
.

You say that but there are Germans or Scandinavians with the same look

In Britain he wouldn pass,yes but in Germany and Norway he does and yes he is light

Everyone in Greece would consider him a blond light person



Freeroostah looks Bulgarian and Sorcelow looks Albanian, neither one looks southern Italian nor Iberian, and not Turkish either

In your universe only

I see Albanians everyday here where i'm now"Aegean Islands" there are many who work here and some stay here the whole year
almost none looks like sorcelow.
Theye look entirely different

That there can be Albanians who look like him means nothing

You may also find Gypsies who look like your Sicilian nightclubers
Does it mean Sicilians look Gypsy?

And Freerostah is Epirote by the way so if anything he would be more similar to Albanians than Bulgarian

Epiros is the part of North Greece least similar to anything Bulgarian

[brennus dux gallorum]

You say that but there are Germans or Scandinavians with the same look

In Britain he wouldn pass,yes but in Germany and Norway he does and yes he is light

Everyone in Greece would consider him a blond light person



In your universe only

I see Albanians everyday here where i'm now"Aegean Islands" there are many who work here and some stay here the whole year
almost none looks like sorcelow.
Theye look entirely different

That there can be Albanians who look like him means nothing

You may also find Gypsies who look like your Sicilian nightclubers
Does it mean Sicilians look Gypsy?

And Freerostah is Epirote by the way so if anything he would be more similar to Albanians than Bulgarian

Epiros is the part of North Greece least similar to anything Bulgarian

That's true, people have a very, very distorted perception of how Albanians look like

Hardly 20% would pass as native in epirus or Macedonia, let alone peloponnese and other parts of the country.

Their facial structure is related to Greek as much as corsican is (if not even less)

[Tauromachos]

That's true, people have a very, very distorted perception of how Albanians look like


Of course its true^





Hardly 20% would pass as native in epirus or Macedonia, let alone peloponnese and other parts of the country.

Their facial structure is related to Greek as much as corsican is (if not even less)


Well if one wants to emphasize differences between South Italians and Mainland Greeks one should also mention that
Albanians look at least the same different to Mainland Greeks as South Italians do

[Arborean]

The Apulians that Sikeliot posted are genetically closer to Greeks than to Albanians though

Doesn't mean much. I score closer to Greeks in some calculators even with Albanian samples. And I am Albanian. You're also talking about a long bout of time that has passed from antiquity up until now, and all the mixing that would have occurred as a result of that.

[Rgvgjhvv]

yes, lino banfi looks almost sterotypical



http://images2.corrieredelmezzogiorno.corriereobjects.it/methode_image/socialshare/2018/04/10/1a095b5e-3c98-11e8-8230-4c035273e8b5.jpg

this president of Puglia region also seems to have a northern greek/macedonian vibe

This man looks very similar to my father, except not as "eastern" looking. Pretty close though.

[Tauromachos]

This man looks very similar to my father, except not as "eastern" looking. Pretty close though.

But your father is not Northern Greek
Right?

What you mean be Eastern looking?

In general Greeks don't look more Slavic when compared to Italians thats more
a creation of this forum imo

[Rgvgjhvv]

But your father is not Northern Greek
Right?

What you mean be Eastern looking?

In general Greeks don't look more Slavic when compared to Italians thats more
a creation of this forum imo

Correct, my father was from Samos, and some family members from Syros earlier on. So purely Greek islander (from what we know anyway).

The man posted has lighter eyes and lighter complexion, aka the features aren't as "dark" as my dad's, but the nose and the rest look very similar. From this photo anyway, maybe not so much in other photos I am not sure.

[Tauromachos]

Correct, my father was from Samos, and some family members from Syros earlier on. So purely Greek islander (from what we know anyway).

The man posted has lighter eyes and lighter complexion, aka the features aren't as "dark", but the nose and the rest look very similar. From this photo anyway, maybe not so much in other photos I am not sure.

Yes i agree the Man there looks Greek also in the Islands sense

You can also find this look among Greeks from Asia Minor"Smyrnians" easily

Of course Smyrna is not far off from Samos :)

[gıulıoımpa]

This man looks very similar to my father, except not as "eastern" looking. Pretty close though.Glad i got it right about his potential greekness of look, interesting to hear he looks more eastern

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[Rgvgjhvv]

Glad i got it right about his potential greekness of look, interesting to hear he looks more eastern

Inviato dal mio SM-G389F utilizzando Tapatalk

I meant my father looks more eastern. Which makes more sense, haha

[Rgvgjhvv]

Yes i agree the Man there looks Greek also in the Islands sense

You can also find this look among Greeks from Asia Minor"Smyrnians" easily

Of course Smyrna is not far off from Samos :)

I definitely have Anatolian ancestry so there you go. That's why I found it interesting Northern Greek was mentioned. I don't have any family there to know enough about the typical phenotypes, etc in that region so I wouldn't know!

[Dianatomia]

Modern Greeks are not a genetically homogeneous entity, but an entity united by language and religion. So you shouldn’t use the ‘modern Greeks’ argument in a discussion about genetics, and lump all Greeks under this label.

South Italians are closer to the ancient Greeks than someone from Macedonia or an Anatolian Greek is, but other Greeks such as island Greeks are probably closer to the ancient Greeks than a south Italian.

The Minoans are very close to Cretans: https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms2871

Myceaneans are basically Minoans with extra steppe, if I remember correctly.

The math is simple. Every time there is an invasion into Greece from the North, the mainland is impacted more substantially than Crete. So due to geographical forces, layers of migrations from the Balkans have put mainlands Greeks apart from Crete and some other islands, while common identity, languange and culture also binds them together.

Ancient DNA material from Classical or Hellenistic Greeks will be revealing. As there is significant evidence that there has been another invasion from the Balkans during the Iron Age. That must have brought more ancient Balkan DNA into Greece. That Balkan DNA may have also had more Steppe like admixture. Even if there is no significant Dorian invasion, internal mobility from the Balkans into Greece may have had an impact on the mainland. The Mycenaean material is from around 1900 BC to 1300 BC. That leaves 1000/1500 years of space for interntal mobility alone. My two cents is that Classical Greeks will be somewhat more Balkan-like than Mycenaean Greeks. Especially those from the mainland.

Also, I would also like to see Bronze Age DNA material from the proto-Greek homeland which is Thessaly and Epirus. I think those regions may have been different from the South of Greece during that time. Right now we have some DNA material from Southern Greeks during the Bronze Age, and we draw conclusions from that.

[Sikeliot]

The math is simple. Every time there is an invasion into Greece from the North, the mainland is impacted more substantially than Crete. So due to geographical forces, layers of migrations from the Balkans have put mainlands Greeks apart from Crete and some other islands, while common identity, languange and culture also binds them together.

I do believe, however, that migration from the mainland to some of the islands has indeed brought many islands closer to mainland Greece since. A number of North Aegean islands, Dodecanese not from Kalymnos/Rhodes, western Cretans, and Cyclades plot somewhere between southern mainland Greece and the Sicilian cluster, which to me suggests north-shifting elements in smaller amount arrived indirectly on some islands.

[Dianatomia]

I do believe, however, that migration from the mainland to some of the islands has indeed brought many islands closer to mainland Greece since. A number of North Aegean islands, Dodecanese not from Kalymnos/Rhodes, western Cretans, and Cyclades plot somewhere between southern mainland Greece and the Sicilian cluster, which to me suggests north-shifting elements in smaller amount arrived indirectly on some islands.

During the Mycenaean Age the Greek ethnogenesis was only just starting to take shape. The Dorians did not spread through the mainland. Exotic languages may have been spoken in different localities of the Greek peninsula and some islands. Also, the Macedonians had not formed yet. They migrated to that area from the Pindus mountains only after the 7th century BC. They drove away peoples who were living there before them, perhaps absorbing some of them. Also, the Dorians drove away Ionians. Many of whom settled in Asia Minor starting the 8th century BC. There they must have absorbed other peoples. Some of whom were driven away by the Macedonians in the North of Greece and settled in Ionia as well. In the 7th and 6th century B.C. Paleao-Balkanic people were also imported to cities like Athens as well.

It is the accumulation of all those peoples which we call Ancient Greeks. Only after the 5th century B.C. was the whole Aegean region sollely Greek speaking. The genetic pool of those Ancient Greeks may have been somewhat different from the Mycenaeans. Not a lot different. After all, all these people were related to an extent. But they were probably not 100% identical to Mycenaeans. I think they slowly became more Balkan-like in the mainland and in nearby islands.

Now the question is why the South Italians are very similar to Mycenaens? There are a few reasons: Firstly, Southern Italians, like Cretans had EEF (Mycenaean/Minoan-like) admixture before the Greeks ever set foot there. So when the Greeks settled there, the Southern Italians absorbed them and deluded the Balkan ancestry which may have entered Greece until the classical era. After that, a degree of Slavs were absorbed by Greeks from the mainland. This pulled them further apart from South Italians (who themselves have absorbed Phoenicians and Arabs). To really estimate how much Slavic admixture absorbed by Greeks, we need genetic matterial from Greeks during the Early Roman era. My bet is that 70% of the genetic material of modern Greeks was already in place during the Bronze Age. Some 80-85% of the genetic material in Greece may have already been in place during the Hellenistic Age. While the remainder 15% to 20% was absorbed later.

[Sikeliot]

During the Mycenaean Age the Greek ethnogenesis was only just starting to take shape. The Dorians did not spread through the mainland. Exotic languages may have been spoken in different localities of the Greek peninsula and some islands. Also, the Macedonians had not formed yet. They migrated to that area from the Pindus mountains only after the 7th century BC. They drove away peoples who were living there before them, perhaps absorbing some of them. Also, the Dorians drove away Ionians. Many of whom settled in Asia Minor starting the 8th century BC. There they must have absorbed other peoples. Some of whom were driven away by the Macedonians in the North of Greece and settled in Ionia as well. In the 7th and 6th century B.C. Paleao-Balkanic people were also imported to cities like Athens as well.

It is the accumulation of all those peoples which we call Ancient Greeks. Only after the 5th century B.C. was the whole Aegean region sollely Greek speaking. The genetic pool of those Ancient Greeks may have been somewhat different from the Mycenaeans. Not a lot different. After all, all these people were related to an extent. But they were probably not 100% identical to Mycenaeans. I think they slowly became more Balkan-like in the mainland and in nearby islands.

Now the question is why the South Italians are very similar to Mycenaens? There are a few reasons: Firstly, Southern Italians, like Cretans had EEF (Mycenaean/Minoan-like) admixture before the Greeks ever set foot there. So when the Greeks settled there, the Southern Italians absorbed them and deluded the Balkan ancestry which may have entered Greece until the classical era. After that, a degree of Slavs were absorbed by Greeks from the mainland. This pulled them further apart from South Italians (who themselves have absorbed Phoenicians and Arabs). To really estimate how much Slavic admixture absorbed by Greeks, we need genetic matterial from Greeks during the Early Roman era. My bet is that 70% of the genetic material of modern Greeks was already in place during the Bronze Age. Some 80-85% of the genetic material in Greece may have already been in place during the Hellenistic Age. While the remainder 15% to 20% was absorbed later.

The indigenous people of Sicily based on the one not so poor quality sample from 2500 AD, was similar to Minoans only with slightly higher "Sardinian" type admixture. So we can assume that sort of genetic profile was common throughout the eastern Mediterranean at that point in time.

There is a Greek GEDmatch result from 500 AD which comes up like someone who is 85% Sicilian, 15% Sardinian. No Slavic shift, just they are like a Sicilian with reduced Near Eastern and higher Sardinian/West Med/EEF.

[Dianatomia]

The indigenous people of Sicily based on the one not so poor quality sample from 2500 AD, was similar to Minoans only with slightly higher "Sardinian" type admixture. So we can assume that sort of genetic profile was common throughout the eastern Mediterranean at that point in time.

There is a Greek GEDmatch result from 500 AD which comes up like someone who is 85% Sicilian, 15% Sardinian. No Slavic shift, just they are like a Sicilian with reduced Near Eastern and higher Sardinian/West Med/EEF.

We don't even know if that sample is Greek, and more importantly we don't know from which location it is. While it is only one specimen and, in fact, it deviates from Mycenaeans. Let's wait for a research which makes a comparitive analysis between Classical (or Hellenistic era) Greeks and Mycenaean Greeks. Also, for a change it would be nice if we have some samples from Thessaly/Epirus, the proto-Greek (as well as the Dorian/-Macedonian) homeland. Again, I don't think that the Southern Greek and Cretan population between 1900 and 1200 BC is indicative for all Classical/Hellenistic (500 BC to 200 BC) Greeks.

[manu15151513]

Publish their eurogenes k36.

[crazyladybutterfly]

i have more north sea but less baltic and atlantic

Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 4-Ancestors Oracle



1 East_Med 30.79



2 West_Med 15.96



3 North_Sea 14.46



4 West_Asian 12.40



5 Atlantic 12.37



6 Red_Sea 5.45



7 Baltic 5.31



8 Eastern_Euro 2.74







Using 1 population approximation:



1 East_Sicilian @ 7.069312



2 Central_Greek @ 7.194544



3 South_Italian @ 7.697491



4 Ashkenazi @ 7.913111



5 Italian_Abruzzo @ 8.405022



6 Italian_Jewish @ 8.867106



7 West_Sicilian @ 9.135261



8 Greek_Thessaly @ 11.155136



9 Sephardic_Jewish @ 11.375813



10 Algerian_Jewish @ 11.717696



11 Greek @ 12.753127



12 Tuscan @ 13.503580



13 Libyan_Jewish @ 14.885240



14 Tunisian_Jewish @ 15.278941



15 Cyprian @ 18.325743



16 Bulgarian @ 20.192181



17 North_Italian @ 20.685474



18 Lebanese_Muslim @ 21.425312



19 Romanian @ 22.011297



20 Syrian @ 22.087654







Using 2 populations approximation:



1 50% Lebanese_Druze +50% Spanish_Galicia @ 4.223975











Using 3 populations approximation:



1 50% Lebanese_Druze +25% Sardinian +25% Swedish @ 3.330989

Using 4 populations approximation

1 Italian_Jewish + Lebanese_Druze + South_Italian + West_German @ 2.930022



2 Italian_Jewish + Lebanese_Christian + South_Italian + West_German @ 3.059253



3 Algerian_Jewish + Lebanese_Druze + South_Italian + West_German @ 3.103042



4 Algerian_Jewish + Central_Greek + Lebanese_Druze + West_German @ 3.273520



5 Algerian_Jewish + Lebanese_Christian + South_Italian + West_German @ 3.294445



6 Central_Greek + Italian_Jewish + Lebanese_Druze + West_German @ 3.306143



7 Lebanese_Druze + Lebanese_Druze + Sardinian + Swedish @ 3.330989



8 Lebanese_Druze + Lebanese_Druze + Sardinian + West_Norwegian @ 3.366293



9 Central_Greek + Italian_Jewish + Lebanese_Christian + West_German @ 3.385510



10 Cyprian + Lebanese_Druze + Tuscan + West_German @ 3.412135



11 Lebanese_Christian + Lebanese_Christian + North_Italian + West_German @ 3.415657



12 East_Sicilian + Italian_Jewish + Lebanese_Druze + West_German @ 3.417662



13 Italian_Jewish + Samaritan + South_Italian + West_German @ 3.429278



14 Algerian_Jewish + Central_Greek + Lebanese_Christian + West_German @ 3.432648



15 Italian_Jewish + Italian_Jewish + Lebanese_Druze + West_German @ 3.445624



16 Cyprian + Libyan_Jewish + South_Italian + West_German @ 3.445721



17 Cyprian + Italian_Jewish + Italian_Jewish + West_German @ 3.467362



18 Lebanese_Druze + South_Italian + South_Italian + West_German @ 3.470246



19 Algerian_Jewish + East_Sicilian + Lebanese_Druze + West_German @ 3.474312



20 Italian_Jewish + Italian_Jewish + Lebanese_Christian + West_German @ 3.488388

[Kenshiro]

i have more north sea but less baltic and atlantic

Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 4-Ancestors Oracle



1 East_Med 30.79



2 West_Med 15.96



3 North_Sea 14.46



4 West_Asian 12.40



5 Atlantic 12.37



6 Red_Sea 5.45



7 Baltic 5.31



8 Eastern_Euro 2.74







Using 1 population approximation:



1 East_Sicilian @ 7.069312



2 Central_Greek @ 7.194544



3 South_Italian @ 7.697491



4 Ashkenazi @ 7.913111



5 Italian_Abruzzo @ 8.405022



6 Italian_Jewish @ 8.867106



7 West_Sicilian @ 9.135261



8 Greek_Thessaly @ 11.155136



9 Sephardic_Jewish @ 11.375813



10 Algerian_Jewish @ 11.717696



11 Greek @ 12.753127



12 Tuscan @ 13.503580



13 Libyan_Jewish @ 14.885240



14 Tunisian_Jewish @ 15.278941



15 Cyprian @ 18.325743



16 Bulgarian @ 20.192181



17 North_Italian @ 20.685474



18 Lebanese_Muslim @ 21.425312



19 Romanian @ 22.011297



20 Syrian @ 22.087654







Using 2 populations approximation:



1 50% Lebanese_Druze +50% Spanish_Galicia @ 4.223975











Using 3 populations approximation:



1 50% Lebanese_Druze +25% Sardinian +25% Swedish @ 3.330989

Using 4 populations approximation

1 Italian_Jewish + Lebanese_Druze + South_Italian + West_German @ 2.930022



2 Italian_Jewish + Lebanese_Christian + South_Italian + West_German @ 3.059253



3 Algerian_Jewish + Lebanese_Druze + South_Italian + West_German @ 3.103042



4 Algerian_Jewish + Central_Greek + Lebanese_Druze + West_German @ 3.273520



5 Algerian_Jewish + Lebanese_Christian + South_Italian + West_German @ 3.294445



6 Central_Greek + Italian_Jewish + Lebanese_Druze + West_German @ 3.306143



7 Lebanese_Druze + Lebanese_Druze + Sardinian + Swedish @ 3.330989



8 Lebanese_Druze + Lebanese_Druze + Sardinian + West_Norwegian @ 3.366293



9 Central_Greek + Italian_Jewish + Lebanese_Christian + West_German @ 3.385510



10 Cyprian + Lebanese_Druze + Tuscan + West_German @ 3.412135



11 Lebanese_Christian + Lebanese_Christian + North_Italian + West_German @ 3.415657



12 East_Sicilian + Italian_Jewish + Lebanese_Druze + West_German @ 3.417662



13 Italian_Jewish + Samaritan + South_Italian + West_German @ 3.429278



14 Algerian_Jewish + Central_Greek + Lebanese_Christian + West_German @ 3.432648



15 Italian_Jewish + Italian_Jewish + Lebanese_Druze + West_German @ 3.445624



16 Cyprian + Libyan_Jewish + South_Italian + West_German @ 3.445721



17 Cyprian + Italian_Jewish + Italian_Jewish + West_German @ 3.467362



18 Lebanese_Druze + South_Italian + South_Italian + West_German @ 3.470246



19 Algerian_Jewish + East_Sicilian + Lebanese_Druze + West_German @ 3.474312



20 Italian_Jewish + Italian_Jewish + Lebanese_Christian + West_German @ 3.488388
This is mine, from Apulia too
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 23.72
2 West_Med 18.64
3 Atlantic 18.39
4 West_Asian 16.67
5 Eastern_Euro 7.31
6 North_Sea 6.81
7 Baltic 6.44


Finished reading population data. 207 populations found.
15 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Greek @ 8.135252
2 Italian_Abruzzo @ 9.056791
3 Central_Greek @ 9.794764
4 West_Sicilian @ 10.241630
5 East_Sicilian @ 11.192455
6 South_Italian @ 11.531698
7 Tuscan @ 12.472926
8 Greek_Thessaly @ 13.053441
9 Ashkenazi @ 13.315251
10 Bulgarian @ 15.925666
11 Sephardic_Jewish @ 16.963890
12 Italian_Jewish @ 16.989742
13 Algerian_Jewish @ 17.784346
14 North_Italian @ 17.954691
15 Romanian @ 18.783569
16 Tunisian_Jewish @ 21.721540
17 Serbian @ 22.530840
18 Turkish @ 22.894888
19 Cyprian @ 23.407192
20 Spanish_Andalucia @ 24.753010

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Greek +50% Italian_Abruzzo @ 7.393541


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Greek +25% Spanish_Andalucia +25% Turkish @ 6.309107


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++
1 Armenian + Greek + Greek + Spanish_Andalucia @ 5.914226
2 Armenian + French_Basque + Greek + Greek @ 5.972213
3 Armenian + Greek + Greek + Spanish_Valencia @ 6.028647
4 Armenian + Greek + Greek + Spanish_Aragon @ 6.049493
5 Armenian + Greek + Greek + Southwest_French @ 6.132282
6 Armenian + Greek + Greek + Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 6.149412
7 French_Basque + Georgian_Jewish + Greek + Greek @ 6.173064
8 Georgian_Jewish + Greek + Greek + Spanish_Andalucia @ 6.256745
9 Greek + Greek + Spanish_Andalucia + Turkish @ 6.309107
10 Assyrian + French_Basque + Greek + Greek @ 6.312678
11 Cyprian + French_Basque + Greek + Turkish @ 6.317703
12 Greek + Greek + Kurdish + Spanish_Andalucia @ 6.363917
13 Georgian_Jewish + Greek + Greek + Spanish_Aragon @ 6.365788
14 Georgian_Jewish + Greek + Greek + Spanish_Valencia @ 6.370138
15 Armenian + Central_Greek + French_Basque + Greek @ 6.370558
16 Georgian_Jewish + Greek + Greek + Southwest_French @ 6.409986
17 Armenian + French_Basque + Greek + South_Italian @ 6.419527
18 Armenian + Greek + Southwest_French + West_Sicilian @ 6.437977
19 Armenian + Bulgarian + Cyprian + French_Basque @ 6.445525
20 Armenian + Greek + Greek + Spanish_Cantabria @ 6.445578

[Kenshiro]

Is likely a mixture of both, but the Ilyrrian factor is more

130066
130067
A very good mix