ETAIN'S ANCESTRYDNA RESULTS [Archive] - The Apricity Forum: A European Cultural Community

IncelSlayer

08-27-2018, 01:22 AM

Before she got 23andme she used to say she's Native American, like Richmondbread

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/144/567/d77.gif

richmond said he had a few percents native american but Etain used to be something like "German, english,mestiza".
https://media.giphy.com/media/AV04OcvXZsVAk/giphy.gif

Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas

08-27-2018, 01:22 AM

Are you planning on asking for a refund after they have taken away your 1% Iberian ancestry?

Profileid

08-27-2018, 01:22 AM

GTFO my thread meerkat u butthurt cunt.

Tauromachos

08-27-2018, 01:24 AM

How did you achieve to be swarty?

Did you ever see a picture of her?

Kamal900

08-27-2018, 01:27 AM

Did you ever see a picture of her?

I sure did. She's..tanned to say the least.

Marmara

08-27-2018, 01:28 AM

Did you ever see a picture of her?

Yes once, but it was months ago.

I recall her having dark hair and eyes, and pretty.

Wouldn't mind seeing more pictures from her. :smilie_liebe9:

Dick

08-27-2018, 01:29 AM

Meerkat why did you thumb me down

Etain, why didnt you get your bro to do the test?!

Halilat Clinton

08-27-2018, 01:30 AM

GTFO my thread meerkat u butthurt cunt.

She’s probably DMing people about you right now as you type, talking about your looks and how insulted she is you don’t validate her.

Tauromachos

08-27-2018, 01:31 AM

Yes once, but it was months ago.

I recall her having dark hair and eyes, and pretty.

Interesting but going by the picture alone not anyhing else
would you say she could be Syrian or would you say she looks definetly
Anglo or Germanic?

Wouldn't mind seeing more pictures from her. :smilie_liebe9:

Nice to know :)

Marmara

08-27-2018, 01:33 AM

Interesting but going by the picture alone not anyhing else
would you say she could be Syrian or would you say she looks definetly
Anglo or Germanic?

Nice to know :)

She didn't look MENA.

Ask her directly and not me, I think she would know if she looks more Anglo or Syrian.

Profileid

08-27-2018, 01:37 AM

Meerkat why did you thumb me down

Etain, why didnt you get your bro to do the test?!

Not a possibility unfortunately. Also ignore meerkat. she is mad at me for some reason

Carpatz

08-27-2018, 01:37 AM

Interesting but going by the picture alone not anyhing else
would you say she could be Syrian or would you say she looks definetly
Anglo or Germanic?

Nice to know :)

Jokes aside, she looks typically anglo in other pics, she just likes SyrianGirlpartisan

HELLBANIAN

08-27-2018, 01:38 AM

Grats

Tauromachos

08-27-2018, 01:39 AM

Etain tu parles francais?

İrle

08-27-2018, 01:39 AM

Ridiculous results for a spicy Latina gurl. Congrats.

AphroditeWorshiper

08-27-2018, 01:41 AM

keltiek plac'h :pippi

Peterski

08-27-2018, 01:44 AM

I'm just a boring white person.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/298449695968067584/483420647209304067/ancestry.png

:cool:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BI851yJUQQw

PurpleSlander

08-27-2018, 01:47 AM

I'm just a boring white person.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/298449695968067584/483420647209304067/ancestry.png

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/298449695968067584/483420661558280193/settlers.png

Very similar to mine. I'm 54% Great Britain and 30% Europe West. Have you gotten the update yet? I haven't. Also, have you uploaded it to gedmatch?

Profileid

08-27-2018, 01:48 AM

Very similar to mine. I'm 54% Great Britain and 30% Europe West. Have you gotten the update yet? I haven't. Also, have you uploaded it to gedmatch?

downloading my raw data as we speak. just got the results a few hours ago.
overall, it took less than a week from them receiving my sample to getting my actual results. very fast

Marmara

08-27-2018, 01:51 AM

:cool:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BI851yJUQQw

Very strong

I would wish to dance with these guys.

PurpleSlander

08-27-2018, 01:52 AM

downloading my raw data as we speak. just got the results a few hours ago.
overall, it took less than a week from them receiving my sample to getting my actual results. very fast

Well your results might change a lot soon when you get the update!!

Can you share your gedmatch results when they come through?

Profileid

08-27-2018, 01:54 AM

Well your results might change a lot soon when you get the update!!

Can you share your gedmatch results when they come through?

sure bro

PurpleSlander

08-27-2018, 01:55 AM

sure bro

I thought you were a girl

MercifulServant

08-27-2018, 01:57 AM

Congrats

Gründig

08-27-2018, 01:57 AM

sicky tight

Carpatz

08-27-2018, 02:31 AM

Well your results might change a lot soon when you get the update!!

Can you share your gedmatch results when they come through?

sure bro

I thought you were a girl

"So I heard that there was a new calculator coming out on GEDmatch. How's about we have dinner and compare our results on it at my place if you're free later tonight?"

1R0N M4N XL

08-27-2018, 02:51 AM

I'm just a boring white person.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/298449695968067584/483420647209304067/ancestry.png

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/298449695968067584/483420661558280193/settlers.png

you have 1% Polynesian?... 1 million years ago, we was cousins!!… LOL...

welcome to the Pacific Club!

… youre related to fractal too!!.. LOL …

CommonSense

08-27-2018, 02:52 AM

you have 1% Polynesian?... 1 million years ago, we was cousins!!… LOL...

… youre related to fractal too!!.. LOL …

Maybe she should start considering a career in hotel management :)

1R0N M4N XL

08-27-2018, 03:07 AM

Maybe she should start considering a career in hotel management :)

sure why not?... hehehehe

Argentano

08-27-2018, 03:12 AM

Profileid

08-27-2018, 03:39 AM

You are uber great british

I'm very surprised I didn't get anything on Ireland. I have ancestors from there and get close to them on all gedmatch calcs
do u have any other anglo-american results? im not sure how i compare

Argentano

08-27-2018, 03:46 AM

I'm very surprised I didn't get anything on Ireland. I have ancestors from there and get close to them on all gedmatch calcs
do u have any other anglo-american results? im not sure how i compare

i have like 500 XD

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?256847-Question-to-Americans-Does-this-White-american-PCA-looks-reasonable

StonyArabia

08-27-2018, 03:48 AM

Cool results. Probably lots of Celtic ancestry than Germanic

Iloko

08-27-2018, 04:02 AM

Polynesian? Wow what r da chances of that?! :D

Profileid

08-27-2018, 04:04 AM

Polynesian? Wow what r da chances of that?! :D

Not noise if i had to guess. Just tiny and odd. No doubt has something to do with my south asian.
look at this lol
1 North_Atlantic 49.12
2 Baltic 24
3 West_Med 10.6
4 West_Asian 7.47
5 East_Med 3.65
6 South_Asian 2.41
7 Siberian 1.19
8 Oceanian 1.14
9 Sub-Saharan 0.28
10 Amerindian 0.13

Marmara

08-27-2018, 04:04 AM

Why did you assume you would have foreign ancestry by the way? Do you think you look exotic?

Marmara

08-27-2018, 04:05 AM

South Asian admixture naturally occours in British isles as far as i have observed, i don't know the reason.

It can't be linked to British colonization of India.

Profileid

08-27-2018, 04:07 AM

Why did you assume you would have foreign ancestry by the way? Do you think you look exotic?
You're the one who said I could pass in Turkey.
I don't assume foreign ancestry, it's just a weird admix. I haven't seen any south asian for my other dna relatives. that oceanian is uncommon in euros too

Iloko

08-27-2018, 04:09 AM

Not noise if i had to guess. Just tiny and odd. No doubt has something to do with my south asian.
look at this lol
1 North_Atlantic 49.12
2 Baltic 24
3 West_Med 10.6
4 West_Asian 7.47
5 East_Med 3.65
6 South_Asian 2.41
7 Siberian 1.19
8 Oceanian 1.14
9 Sub-Saharan 0.28
10 Amerindian 0.13
Interesting that's quite cool! I did read on one of the Gedmatch creator's blogs online about anything 1% and higher being real while anything below 1% is quite possibly noise.

I remember that South Asian you scored, so yeah I agree the South Asian and Polynesian could be interlinked. Would be cool to find out the historical implications of having such ancestors in your family tree line!

Armenian Bishop

08-27-2018, 04:10 AM

Polynesian? Wow what r da chances of that?! :D

it might be the "noise" factor. Is there a raw data connection between Polynesians Islanders and Native Americans? Another possibility is that the South Asian and Islander Component have a linked origin. It really doesn't make sense, but those things could have something to do with it.

Profileid

08-27-2018, 04:12 AM

AncestryDNA tells me that my ancestors were convicts
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/482326581289811970/483473428649869317/Screenshot_3.png

Marmara

08-27-2018, 04:12 AM

You're the one who said I could pass in Turkey.
I don't assume foreign ancestry, it's just a weird admix. I haven't seen any south asian for my other dna relatives. that oceanian is uncommon in euros too

I meant if you thought you could have foreign admix before you took the test, only based on your phenotype.

Your pic had crappy quality, but it's also not impossible for a full white person to pass in Turkey.

Have you been classified Brünn or do you assume?

Profileid

08-27-2018, 04:13 AM

I meant if you thought you could have foreign admix before you took the test, only based on your phenotype.

Your pic had crappy quality, but it's also not impossible for a full white person to pass in Turkey.

Have you been classified Brünn or do you assume?

someone else told me i was. it seems to me like a catch all term for irish looking people

Marmara

08-27-2018, 04:14 AM

someone else told me i was. it seems to me like a catch all term for irish looking people

Might be

What's your ancestry?

You also have a lot of German, right?

Profileid

08-27-2018, 04:15 AM

Might be

What's your ancestry?

You also have a lot of German, right?

British,Irish,German. That's about it.typical white american mutt

Bobby Martnen

08-27-2018, 04:17 AM

I'm very surprised I didn't get anything on Ireland. I have ancestors from there and get close to them on all gedmatch calcs
do u have any other anglo-american results? im not sure how i compare

Your ancestors from Ireland could have been descended from English/Welsh/Scottish settlers instead of the native Gaelic Irish.

Profileid

08-27-2018, 04:19 AM

Your ancestors from Ireland could have been descended from English/Welsh/Scottish settlers instead of the native Gaelic Irish.

I found names like O'Leary,Ryan,Dooley in my tree. There are ones from ulster too.

Marmara

08-27-2018, 04:20 AM

British,Irish,German. That's about it.typical white american mutt

I guess it's not fun to be a typical white mutt there :D

Profileid

08-27-2018, 04:21 AM

I guess it's not fun to be a typical white mutt there :D

well everyone else is allowed to have an identity except us. even the ethnic whites like italians or polaks can.

Bobby Martnen

08-27-2018, 04:23 AM

I found names like O'Leary,Ryan,Dooley in my tree. There are ones from ulster too.

Maybe you're related to Paul Ryan lol

My guess is that they may have a hard time telling British and Irish ancestry apart. On paper, I'm 25% Irish, 2% Scottish, and nothing else British Isles, but I get

33% Ireland and Scotland
14% England, Wales, and Northwestern Europe

Among other things

Marmara

08-27-2018, 04:24 AM

well everyone else is allowed to have an identity except us. even the ethnic whites like italians or polaks can.

You score 2% Caucasus, identify with it, Caucasian :D, then claim you are the true Caucasians and blame white people for stealing your identity.

Iloko

08-27-2018, 04:33 AM

it might be the "noise" factor. Is there a raw data connection between Polynesians Islanders and Native Americans? Another possibility is that the South Asian and Islander Component have a linked origin. It really doesn't make sense, but those things could have something to do with it.
It would seem quite odd for Native American admixture to show up as Polynesian lol I think Native Americans plot closer to NE-Asians in fact despite many of them often having a SE-Asianish sort of look going on due to different convergent evolution causes (Proto-Mongoloid theory), I'm more inclined to believe the South Asian + Polynesian interlinkage hypothesis since these two groups tend to be more genetically close to each and often share some genes between them. Well I know some Indians as in from India who've also scored a lil Polynesian on Ancestry.com as well as Melanesian..I guess those South Asian groups which share ties with Mongoloids can explain it.

In fact I would go along with assuming that Native American admixture is more likely to show up as Siberian or Japanese rather than Polynesian lol.

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/files/2011/02/23me.png

Armenian Bishop

08-27-2018, 04:34 AM

AncestryDNA tells me that my ancestors were convicts
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/482326581289811970/483473428649869317/Screenshot_3.png

Maybe, just maybe, a sailor married an Islander, brought her back to Britain, and got sent to America as punishment, for misconduct on a sea vessel. :lightbul:

Anyway, it's kind of an exciting story, even if it's fiction.

Profileid

08-27-2018, 04:37 AM

Maybe, just maybe, a sailor married an Islander, brought her back to Britain, and got sent to America as punishment, for misconduct on a sea vessel. :lightbul:

Anyway, it's kind of an exciting story, even if it's fiction.

that's not a bad book idea...

Armenian Bishop

08-27-2018, 04:39 AM

It would seem quite odd for Native American admixture to show up as Polynesian lol I think Native Americans plot closer to NE-Asians in fact despite many of them often having a SE-Asianish sort of look going on due to different convergent evolution causes (Proto-Mongoloid theory), I'm more inclined to believe the South Asian + Polynesian interlinkage hypothesis since these two groups tend to be more genetically close to each and often share some genes between them. Well I know some Indians as in from India who've also scored a lil Polynesian on Ancestry.com as well as Melanesian..I guess those South Asian groups which share ties with Mongoloids can explain it.

In fact I would go along with assuming that Native American admixture is more likely to show up as Siberian or Japanese rather than Polynesian lol.

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/files/2011/02/23me.png

OK surely you're right, because you know those things well. But . . . But, maybe they made a pitstop on Easter Island, borrowed a burro from the Franciscan Monks in California, and found there way to New England. I know that's ridiculous, but we're trying to dig up an exciting non-white story.

Gründig

08-27-2018, 04:41 AM

Post K13 non 4 way oracle

Profileid

08-27-2018, 04:45 AM

Post K13 non 4 way oracle

This is with the new ancestry raw dna. basically t he same as 23andme
# Population (source) Distance
1 Danish 3.36
2 North_Dutch 3.67
3 Orcadian 4.02
4 North_German 4.05
5 Irish 4.48
6 Southeast_English 4.8
7 West_Scottish 4.97
8 Norwegian 5.63
9 Southwest_English 5.97
10 Swedish 7.25
11 South_Dutch 7.53
12 West_German 8.04
13 North_Swedish 12.99
14 Austrian 13
15 French 13.34
16 East_German 13.46
17 Hungarian 17.27
18 Spanish_Cataluna 20.75
19 Southwest_Finnish 20.96
20 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 22.04

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 93.8% Orcadian + 6.2% Afghan_Pashtun @ 2.03
2 94.9% Orcadian + 5.1% Makrani @ 2.11
3 93.3% Orcadian + 6.7% Tabassaran @ 2.14
4 95.1% Orcadian + 4.9% Brahui @ 2.15
5 95% Orcadian + 5% Balochi @ 2.16
6 93.6% Orcadian + 6.4% Lezgin @ 2.16
7 93.2% Orcadian + 6.8% Tadjik @ 2.19
8 94.6% Orcadian + 5.4% Kalash @ 2.21
9 95.7% North_Dutch + 4.3% Sindhi @ 2.22
10 94.7% Orcadian + 5.3% Pathan @ 2.27
11 94.2% North_Dutch + 5.8% Tadjik @ 2.29
12 95.7% North_Dutch + 4.3% Makrani @ 2.3
13 93.7% Orcadian + 6.3% Chechen @ 2.3
14 94.8% North_Dutch + 5.2% Afghan_Pashtun @ 2.3
15 94.7% North_Dutch + 5.3% Afghan_Tadjik @ 2.3
16 95.4% North_Dutch + 4.6% Burusho @ 2.3
17 95.9% North_Dutch + 4.1% Brahui @ 2.31
18 95.8% North_Dutch + 4.2% Balochi @ 2.34
19 95.5% North_Dutch + 4.5% Pathan @ 2.34
20 94% Orcadian + 6% Afghan_Tadjik

Iloko

08-27-2018, 04:51 AM

OK surely you're right, because you know those things well. But . . . But, maybe they made a pitstop on Easter Island, borrowed a burrow from the Franciscan Monks in California, and found there way to New England. I know that's ridiculous, but we're trying to dig up an exciting non-white story.
Lol yea and maybe one day science can write that beautiful tale thru the means of a saliva sample alone, check this out:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbPwzII_g6o

Grace O'Malley

08-27-2018, 12:08 PM

I found names like O'Leary,Ryan,Dooley in my tree. There are ones from ulster too.

Very Irish names. You might get some Ireland & Scotland on the update. Some people have gotten it when they didn't have it previously. Great Britain anyway has crossover with Ireland & Scotland. I'd predict you will because they no longer have Europe West but have Germanic Europe, also France etc. They have England, Wales and Northwestern Europe as a category as well. You might also get a specific area of Scandinavia either Sweden or Norway.

You'll also lose your trace regions.

PurpleSlander

08-27-2018, 10:37 PM

"So I heard that there was a new calculator coming out on GEDmatch. How's about we have dinner and compare our results on it at my place if you're free later tonight?"

hahahaha!!!

Profileid

08-28-2018, 01:14 AM

Very Irish names. You might get some Ireland & Scotland on the update. Some people have gotten it when they didn't have it previously. Great Britain anyway has crossover with Ireland & Scotland. I'd predict you will because they no longer have Europe West but have Germanic Europe, also France etc. They have England, Wales and Northwestern Europe as a category as well. You might also get a specific area of Scandinavia either Sweden or Norway.

You'll also lose your trace regions.

Awesome. My aunt got Ireland as a region, so I really think it not showing up for me is an error on their part. Any word on when it might update?

Bogdan

08-28-2018, 01:16 AM

Very typical of America but that makes it interesting to me.

Wadaad

08-28-2018, 01:17 AM

...."appalachian migrants" no wonder you have a hard-on for Syrian migrants

Longbowman

08-28-2018, 01:18 AM

"white"

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/445888351053283329/483428848872980480/Screenshot_2.pngdf.png

>finland
>white

nice meme OP

Profileid

08-28-2018, 01:30 AM

I don't get any regional connections. Disappointingly. But it makes sense since I'm a mutt and have been here for like 300 years.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/298449695968067584/483421417225060362/Screenshot_1.png

Teutonski

08-28-2018, 01:36 AM

What does Great Britain result mean when it comes to being germanic?

Profileid

08-28-2018, 01:48 AM

What does Great Britain result mean when it comes to being germanic?

it just means you match the most with great britain. no way to tell germanic and celtic from that

Teutonski

08-28-2018, 02:11 AM

it just means you match the most with great britain. no way to tell germanic and celtic from that

How can you find out?

Profileid

08-28-2018, 02:13 AM

How can you find out?

u cant really. we're too interbred with celts at this point. Consider the fact that even you get close to Irish on gedmatch calcs.

Teutonski

08-28-2018, 02:19 AM

u cant really. we're too interbred with celts at this point. Consider the fact that even you get close to Irish on gedmatch calcs.

A friend of mine in real life said he made a dna test and he had celtic and germanic as different presented results, I guess he lied then?

Profileid

08-28-2018, 02:37 AM

A friend of mine in real life said he made a dna test and he had celtic and germanic as different presented results, I guess he lied then?

Maybe he misunderstood or explained it wrong. I sure would like to know what test explicitly differentiates the two.

Teutonski

08-28-2018, 02:39 AM

Maybe he misunderstood or explained it wrong. I sure would like to know what test explicitly differentiates the two.

I was about to crown you as the most Germanic member ive seen here, now I am confused :/

Heather Duval

08-28-2018, 04:18 AM

The German makes u swarthy. Victoria Bekcham is English and German, she looks dark as well

Heather Duval

08-28-2018, 04:22 AM

Grace O'Malley

08-29-2018, 11:51 AM

Awesome. My aunt got Ireland as a region, so I really think it not showing up for me is an error on their part. Any word on when it might update?

Unfortunately no because Ancestry keeps telling people different things. There is no way they won't have an update because they have went to a lot of expense and also have a larger population panel. I have the updated results and they have obviously done the calculations for a lot of testers but they haven't given a definite date for when they are updating everyone unfortunately. I'll be really interested in seeing what you get when they do update your results.

arkas

08-29-2018, 12:11 PM

I think all those little extra percentages represent ancient dna that many groups share, you probably don't have actual ancestry from Polynesia or South Asia but I am no expert.

It's interesting though, some people seem to get lots of small amounts of different things and others dont. Nice results :thumb001:

Grace O'Malley

09-02-2018, 05:44 AM

u cant really. we're too interbred with celts at this point. Consider the fact that even you get close to Irish on gedmatch calcs.

If you want to find out what your update is use this hack.

When you go into your ethnicity estimate you will have your unique code at the end, copy that and replace where the xs are. Use the link below.

/www.ancestry.com/dna/origins/secure/tests/xxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx/ethnicity?version=4 when you use the link below just replace the xs.

Use this link, replace xs and hit enter. It will give you a breakdown.

https://www.ancestry.com/dna/origins/secure/tests/xxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx/ethnicity?version=4

You will get something like this.

{"version":4,"createdAt":1534373551000,"regions":[{"key":"Celtic","percentage":100,"lowerConfidence":100,"upperConfidence":100,"lowConfidenceAssignment":false,"color":"#f1e000"}]}

You will get more a breakdown than this because that is only showing 100% Celtie i.e Ireland and Scotland.

It uses the old codes like "Celtic" and "Anglo-Saxon" etc but will give let you know your updated results. If you get Celtic that just mean Ireland & Scotland. Post your results here and if there is anything you don't understand I can let you know.

Jägerstaffel

09-02-2018, 06:07 AM

A friend of mine in real life said he made a dna test and he had celtic and germanic as different presented results, I guess he lied then?

I'd be curious about my results with that.

Profileid

09-02-2018, 06:35 AM

If you want to find out what your update is use this hack.

When you go into your ethnicity estimate you will have your unique code at the end, copy that and replace where the xs are. Use the link below.

/www.ancestry.com/dna/origins/secure/tests/xxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx/ethnicity?version=4 when you use the link below just replace the xs.

Use this link, replace xs and hit enter. It will give you a breakdown.

https://www.ancestry.com/dna/origins/secure/tests/xxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx/ethnicity?version=4

You will get something like this.

{"version":4,"createdAt":1534373551000,"regions":[{"key":"Celtic","percentage":100,"lowerConfidence":100,"upperConfidence":100,"lowConfidenceAssignment":false,"color":"#f1e000"}]}

You will get more a breakdown than this because that is only showing 100% Celtie i.e Ireland and Scotland.

It uses the old codes like "Celtic" and "Anglo-Saxon" etc but will give let you know your updated results. If you get Celtic that just mean Ireland & Scotland. Post your results here and if there is anything you don't understand I can let you know.
Seems very accurate.
[{"key":"AngloSaxon","percentage":61,"lowerConfidence":58,"upperConfidence":73,"lowConfidenceAssignment":false,"color":"#f1e000"},
"key":"Celtic","percentage":20,"lowerConfidence":0,"upperConfidence":22,"lowConfidenceAssignment":false,"color":"#75cd00"},{"key":"Germany","percentage":15,"lowerConfidence":0,"upperConfidence":41,"lowConfidenceAssignment":false,"color":"#00cc99"},{"key":"Norway","percentage":4,"lowerConfidence":0,"upperConfidence":13,"lowConfidenceAssignment":false,"color":"#00b8cd"}]}

Bobby Martnen

09-02-2018, 06:37 AM

Seems very accurate.
[{"key":"AngloSaxon","percentage":61,"lowerConfidence":58,"upperConfidence":73,"lowConfidenceAssignment":false,"color":"#f1e000"},
"key":"Celtic","percentage":20,"lowerConfidence":0,"upperConfidence":22,"lowConfidenceAssignment":false,"color":"#75cd00"},{"key":"Germany","percentage":15,"lowerConfidence":0,"upperConfidence":41,"lowConfidenceAssignment":false,"color":"#00cc99"},{"key":"Norway","percentage":4,"lowerConfidence":0,"upperConfidence":13,"lowConfidenceAssignment":false,"color":"#00b8cd"}]}

What German region is your family from?

Profileid

09-02-2018, 06:38 AM

What German region is your family from?

southwest

Bobby Martnen

09-02-2018, 06:42 AM

southwest

Mine, too. I think Ancestry generally has a hard time with German DNA, and differentiating it from surrounding regions. Could be that Germans are reluctant to test, for historical reasons.

Someone I know who is 1/4 Scottish, 1/4 Swedish, 1/4 Norwegian, 1/4 North German gets absolutely no German whatsoever on the new version.

I'm 1/8 Sicilian, and get 1% Italian on the new version. My mom, who is 1/4, only gets 8% Italian.

Grace O'Malley

09-02-2018, 06:51 AM

Profileid

09-02-2018, 06:59 AM

Woohoo looks like you'll get Ireland & Scotland in your update at about 20%. Does that appear accurate for your genealogy?

Yes. I've been working on a family tree on ancestry and it's hard to differentiate origins from the British Isles. I am guessing a lot of Irish and Scottish ancestry is hidden under anglo names.

Bobby Martnen

09-02-2018, 07:01 AM

Yes. I've been working on a family tree on ancestry and it's hard to differentiate origins from the British Isles. I am guessing a lot of Irish and Scottish ancestry is hidden under anglo names.

A lot of German and Dutch ancestry can also be hidden under Anglo names.

I recently learned that Herbert Hoover was paternally German, and his original surname was "Huber"

Grace O'Malley

09-02-2018, 07:06 AM

Yes. I've been working on a family tree on ancestry and it's hard to differentiate origins from the British Isles. I am guessing a lot of Irish and Scottish ancestry is hidden under anglo names.

It depends on the names. Names like Smith for example can be 100% Irish as they are just a direct translation from the surname MacGowan which means son of the smith. There are Irish genealogists that know what some of the more English sounding names are from the Irish. Names like Savage, Harrington, Ford, Broderick are quite common in Ireland but are mostly of Norman origin but very Irish now. A lot of surnames are also quite common in England i.e. Collins is very common in Ireland and is actually Gaelic Irish but can be of Anglo-Saxon origin in England so it can be confusing going by surnames.

Profileid

09-02-2018, 07:20 AM

It depends on the names. Names like Smith for example can be 100% Irish as they are just a direct translation from the surname MacGowan which means son of the smith. There are Irish genealogists that know what some of the more English sounding names are from the Irish. Names like Savage, Harrington, Ford, Broderick are quite common in Ireland but are mostly of Norman origin but very Irish now. A lot of surnames are also quite common in England i.e. Collins is very common in Ireland and is actually Gaelic Irish but can be of Anglo-Saxon origin in England so it can be confusing going by surnames.

I have a Johnston from Fermanagh county which could be anything. That area of Northern Ireland is still mostly Irish today.
Wish I had a copy of this book. It looks like the best source on Irish surnames. https://www.amazon.com/Master-Book-Irish-Surnames/dp/0940134322

Dick

09-02-2018, 07:27 AM

I have a Johnston from Fermanagh county which could be anything. That area of Northern Ireland is still mostly Irish today.
Wish I had a copy of this book. It looks like the best source on Irish surnames. https://www.amazon.com/Master-Book-Irish-Surnames/dp/0940134322

I have 4 "Johnsons". No pun intended. Dat Anglo-Saxon ydna..

https://i.imgur.com/JCjIk8F.jpg

Profileid

09-02-2018, 07:31 AM

I have 4 "Johnsons". No pun intended. Dat Anglo-Saxon ydna..

https://i.imgur.com/JCjIk8F.jpg

are those people with the same clade? i assume not relatives

Dick

09-02-2018, 07:34 AM

are those people with the same clade? i assume not relatives

brothas from anotha motha. I have no idea actually . That's from my ftdna family finer.

Grace O'Malley

09-02-2018, 07:36 AM

I have 4 "Johnsons". No pun intended. Dat Anglo-Saxon ydna..

https://i.imgur.com/JCjIk8F.jpg

These are my most common surnames matches.

Most Common Surnames: 24 Smith 18 Johnson 16 Baker

I think it is because of the preponderance of people from the British Isles on FTDNA.

This is my brother's.

24 Johnson 19 Smith 18 Murphy

My daughter doesn't get as many but she is a transfer. We have Kelly and Ryan in our family tree. Don't know what Madore is?

4 Kelly 4 Ryan 4 Madore

My mother's are all Irish but still only a small amount. She is also a transfer whereas both my brother and myself sent in samples.

Most Common Surnames: 6 Ryan 5 Murphy 5 Nolan

Dick

09-02-2018, 07:38 AM

These are my most common surnames matches.

Most Common Surnames: 24 Smith 18 Johnson 16 Baker

I think it is because of the preponderance of people from the British Isles on FTDNA.

The Baker's are my most common y-dna STR match on ftdna, There's even a priest among them that tested lol, but they dont show up on family finder.

Grace O'Malley

09-02-2018, 07:51 AM

The Baker's are my most common y-dna STR match on ftdna, There's even a priest among them that tested lol, but they dont show up on family finder.

Mine are all family finder. How are you finding surnames by y-dna STR matches?

Dick

09-02-2018, 05:31 PM

Mine are all family finder. How are you finding surnames by y-dna STR matches?

I did the test for y-dna as well.

Grace O'Malley

09-03-2018, 03:25 AM

I did the test for y-dna as well.

Yes but how do you get the most common surnames for your ydna tests? I haven't seen where you can get the surnames only by using MyOrigins.

Dick

09-03-2018, 03:28 AM

Yes but how do you get the most common surnames for your ydna tests? I haven't seen where you can get the surnames only by using MyOrigins.

I did Ftdna's Y-dna STR test. It shows your match's surnames

cyberlorian

09-03-2018, 03:28 AM

How did you achieve to be swarty?

23 percent Western Europe.

Grace O'Malley

09-03-2018, 03:35 AM

I did Ftdna's Y-dna STR test. It shows your match's surnames

My brother gets a list in a table but only on his MyOrigins can you get the surnames. It would be great if you could press a button and get the most common surnames.

Profileid

09-13-2018, 01:29 AM

Woohoo looks like you'll get Ireland & Scotland in your update at about 20%. Does that appear accurate for your genealogy?
UPDATED RESULTS
You were exactly right. I wish I still had my low confidence reasons but I think 20% Ireland & Scotland is accurate.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/315711208462221313/489593087631425546/Screenshot_3.png

New user

09-13-2018, 01:41 AM

Nah not boring. That 20% Irish, and Welsh keeps you from being a basic becky.

Gründig

09-13-2018, 01:43 AM

Nah not boring. That 20% Irish, and Welsh keeps you from being a basic becky.

What is a "basic becky" to you?

jingorex

09-13-2018, 01:45 AM

not everyone is blessed with the swarthy german genes

they jelly of our swarth.

https://media.giphy.com/media/tQcjerc5JJGxi/giphy.gif

Profileid

09-13-2018, 01:50 AM

Nah not boring. That 20% Irish, and Welsh keeps you from being a basic becky.

tons of americans have irish or scottish ancestry.
i'd say the majority of white americans do

New user

09-13-2018, 02:20 AM

tons of americans have irish or scottish ancestry.
i'd say the majority of white americans do

True, but Irish Americans are cooler, make better music, better comedians, and they know how to party, so they're disqualified from basic beckiness. You know both Kurt Cobain and Bruce Springsteen were Irish. Springsteen was Irish and Italian so double un-becky.

Bobby Martnen

09-15-2018, 08:42 PM

tons of americans have irish or scottish ancestry.
i'd say the majority of white americans do

Yes, even people who often wouldn't think they do (people of colonial German or Dutch origin, African-Americans, Amerindians) often have distant roots from the British Isles that they are unaware of.

rein

09-15-2018, 08:54 PM

the south asian tho

So boring. That Polynesian though.

frankhammer

09-15-2018, 09:02 PM

The England, Wales and Northwestern Europe is a large catch all. Little different than broadly Northwestern. My Ireland and Scotland descreased and the "Broadly" increased. Other than that and the trace regions disappearing, little changed.

I had a feeling yours would look like this.

Maintenance

09-15-2018, 09:03 PM

Did you upload to myheritage?

Wrong

09-15-2018, 09:03 PM

0% SSA? You're one lucky girl in that melting pot.

Friends of Oliver Society

09-15-2018, 09:09 PM

0% SSA? You're one lucky girl in that melting pot.

West Virginia didn't have slave plantations. The birth of West Virgina came from siding with the Union instead of the rest of Virgins, which did have a plantation tradition.

Skjaldemjøden

09-15-2018, 09:15 PM

How did you achieve to be swarty?

A projection of her black heart

İrle

09-15-2018, 09:47 PM

A projection of her black heart

She's gonna burn in infernal hell and she knows this too.

Profileid

09-16-2018, 01:01 AM

Profileid

09-16-2018, 01:04 AM

Did you upload to myheritage?
results for that should be in very soon

0% SSA? You're one lucky girl in that melting pot.

I have a lot of southern cousins, who get some SSA.

Friends of Oliver Society

09-16-2018, 01:22 AM

West Virginia didn't have slave plantations. The birth of West Virgina came from siding with the Union instead of the rest of Virgins, which did have a plantation tradition.

lolz... auto-correct. Virgins who own slave plantations is a funny concept.

Drusilla

09-16-2018, 01:26 AM

results for that should be in very soon

I have a lot of southern cousins, who get some SSA.

How much SSA does a white American from the South get on average?

Profileid

09-16-2018, 01:33 AM

How much SSA does a white American from the South get on average?

On average probably like .5% https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Americans#Admixture_in_Non-Hispanic_Whites
What to understand about this is that the vast majority of white southerners get no detectable SSA.
Here are some of my closer relatives on 23andme.

https://i.imgur.com/bd7Bci7.png
https://i.imgur.com/h8hYvBu.png
https://i.imgur.com/2amfPUb.png
https://i.imgur.com/jGwspIs.png

Friends of Oliver Society

09-16-2018, 01:36 AM

results for that should be in very soon

I have a lot of southern cousins, who get some SSA.

Are these cousins on 23andme living further south? SSA appears to pop up in people from Virginia and South Carolina and I'd assume to a degree descendants of people whose origin are from these states. I don't include Louisiana since it has a different history than that of the rest of the south.

An interesting fact is in the very early days of settlement in Virgina Black slaves were treated as indentured servants instead of as slaves and they intermarried with White indentured servants. I suspect the same happened in South Carolina and this is much of the basis for that little bit of SSA% in some southerners in that some of the descendants could pass as White and did so.

Drusilla

09-16-2018, 01:38 AM

On average probably like .5% https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Americans#Admixture_in_Non-Hispanic_Whites
What to understand about this is that the vast majority of white southerners get no detectable SSA.
Here are some of my closer relatives on 23andme.

Thank you for replying and congrats on your results!

Profileid

09-16-2018, 01:50 AM

Are these cousins on 23andme living further south? SSA appears to pop up in people from Virginia and South Carolina and I'd assume to a degree descendants of people whose origin are from these states. I don't include Louisiana since it has a different history than that of the rest of the south.

An interesting fact is in the very early days of settlement in Virgina Black slaves were treated as indentured servants instead of as slaves and they intermarried with White indentured servants. I suspect the same happened in South Carolina and this is much of the basis for that little bit of SSA% in some southerners in that some of the descendants could pass as White and did so.

My paternal side goes way back to Virginia originally and I still have some family there even though our branch settled in West Virginia a bit before the civil war.
I suspect they are further south but wasn't able to find their place of residency(didn't wanna stalk them).
IMO, it is remarkable that as many white southerners have SSA as they do.

Friends of Oliver Society

09-16-2018, 02:06 AM

My paternal side goes way back to Virginia originally and I still have some family there even though our branch settled in West Virginia a bit before the civil war.
I suspect they are further south but wasn't able to find their place of residency(didn't wanna stalk them).
IMO, it is remarkable that as many white southerners have SSA as they do.

In "7 Years a Slave" or however it was titled the author wrote about how he came across an escaped slave who was a White woman hiding in the sticks in Louisiana. She was as White as any White woman he had seen but she was a slave because of her Black grandma or great grandma or whatever. Each generation must have had a White father but interestingly none of them decided to emancipate the child born and so eventually you have a White woman who is treated like a Black slave.

If you could pass for White and you're a slave and there is a frontier hardly settled it would make sense to make a run for it and 'disappear' in a new community. In the case of that women she would eventually go home cuz the bayou isn't easy to get through.

I remember reading of a boy being auctioned whose mother was Black (I assume mixed herself) but he was White. The author had a conversation with someone watching the whole scene. The man felt uncomfortable seeing what appeared to be a White child being auctioned. Naturally the poor boy was crying. I don't remember what state it occurred but I do remember it was some years before the Civil War.

Profileid

09-16-2018, 02:27 AM

In "7 Years a Slave" or however it was titled the author wrote about how he came across an escaped slave who was a White woman hiding in the sticks in Louisiana. She was as White as any White woman he had seen but she was a slave because of her Black grandma or great grandma or whatever. Each generation must have had a White father but interestingly none of them decided to emancipate the child born and so eventually you have a White woman who is treated like a Black slave.

If you could pass for White and you're a slave and there is a frontier hardly settled it would make sense to make a run for it and 'disappear' in a new community. In the case of that women she would eventually go home cuz the bayou isn't easy to get through.

I remember reading of a boy being auctioned whose mother was Black (I assume mixed herself) but he was White. The author had a conversation with someone watching the whole scene. The man felt uncomfortable seeing what appeared to be a White child being auctioned. Naturally the poor boy was crying. I don't remember what state it occurred but I do remember it was some years before the Civil War.

an interesting and little discussed part of the history of the time. i wonder how many plantation slaves were white passing.

Bobby Martnen

09-16-2018, 03:30 AM

IMO, it is remarkable that as many white southerners have SSA as they do.

Most of it comes from black men in the 1600s who married white indentured servant women before the color line hardened.

Like this guy: https://www.npr.org/2012/11/24/165512010/a-white-face-with-a-forgotten-african-family

Friends of Oliver Society

09-16-2018, 03:31 AM

an interesting and little discussed part of the history of the time. i wonder how many plantation slaves were white passing.

I doubt many but you don't need many to get that very low SSA%.

I always think of the writer Anatole Broyard. He was Louisiana Creole. He didn't tell anyone about his background. He was afraid it would effect his career.

http://www.frenchcreoles.com/Broyard_Anatole_head_300.jpg

Daughter

http://www.frenchcreoles.com/Broyard_Bliss_head_300.jpg

Skjaldemjøden

09-16-2018, 06:20 PM

In "7 Years a Slave" or however it was titled the author wrote about how he came across an escaped slave who was a White woman hiding in the sticks in Louisiana. She was as White as any White woman he had seen but she was a slave because of her Black grandma or great grandma or whatever. Each generation must have had a White father but interestingly none of them decided to emancipate the child born and so eventually you have a White woman who is treated like a Black slave.

If you could pass for White and you're a slave and there is a frontier hardly settled it would make sense to make a run for it and 'disappear' in a new community. In the case of that women she would eventually go home cuz the bayou isn't easy to get through.

I remember reading of a boy being auctioned whose mother was Black (I assume mixed herself) but he was White. The author had a conversation with someone watching the whole scene. The man felt uncomfortable seeing what appeared to be a White child being auctioned. Naturally the poor boy was crying. I don't remember what state it occurred but I do remember it was some years before the Civil War.

I read Ida May a few years ago. It's a story about a white girl from Pennsylvania who gets kidnapped and sold into slavery.
White slave propaganda (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_slave_propaganda) was one of the most powerful tools wielded by the antislavery movement.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1c/Learning_is_Wealth.jpg