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Æmeric
02-28-2009, 10:05 PM
So.... what would be his classification?


http://img.rian.ru/images/3972/53/39725358.jpg
http://www.mugshots.com/IMAGES/PPP__vladimir-Lenin.jpg
http://www.notablebiographies.com/images/uewb_06_img0422.jpg
http://www.csimokat.com/Misc/SovietPresentation/Leaders/Lenin.jpg
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/00676/lenin-embalmed-404_676456c.jpg
http://www.lwwdc.org/lenin_2.jpg

Beorn
02-28-2009, 10:11 PM
http://img.rian.ru/images/3972/53/39725358.jpg




If that picture was shown to me without context or knowledge, I would bet my weeks wages on that being a Mongolian, or a man of Mongolian descent.

Absinthe
02-28-2009, 10:12 PM
I say we use this classification thread to start rumors about his sex life and alleged non-european descent. :D

Brynhild
02-28-2009, 10:56 PM
If that picture was shown to me without context or knowledge, I would bet my weeks wages on that being a Mongolian, or a man of Mongolian descent.

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My first immediate impression as well, and I know bugger all about this! :D

Osweo
02-28-2009, 11:01 PM
I say we use this classification thread to start rumors about his sex life and alleged non-european descent. :D

:D

Nowt 'alleged' about it though!

His paternal Grandmother, Anna Alekseyevna Smirnova is usually stated to have been a Kalmyk, or half one. These are Buddhist Mongol speakers living to the northwest of the Caspian Sea, who fled under Russian protection when the Manchu Dynasty of China conquered Dzungaria, that bit of Eastern Turkestan north of Urumchi, between the states of Mongolia and Kazakhstan, and south of the Altai republic of Russia.

His paternal Grandfather, Nikolai Vasilievich Ulyanov seems to have been a Russian, pure and simple, of fairly humble origins.

On the maternal side we have his mother Mariya Blank. Her parents were Anna Groshopf (half Swedish thru the mother - Anna, daughter of Karl Ostedt - half German through the father - Ivan Fyodorovich - whose Russified name and patronymic seem to indicate a degree of Russification and long stay in Russia), and
Aleksandr (son of Dmitrii and Anna Blank), by most accounts of converted Jewish stock.

In other words;
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=815&stc=1&d=1235865824

I don't really see the point in classifying such hopelessly mixed types, beyond saying that he took after his granny a great deal! To me, anthropological classification is fascinating as a window into ethnogenesis, and thus more profitably done with people of more straightforward pedigrees. Enjoy the theoretical exercise though, if you will!

Smeagol
09-03-2013, 01:29 AM
Borreby + Ladogan + Tungid.

aherne
09-03-2013, 04:56 AM
Unclassifiable. Looks like a mix of Russian and Mongol.

Stormer99
09-03-2013, 04:58 AM
Turanid

Anglojew
09-03-2013, 06:09 AM
chew

YeshAtid
09-03-2013, 06:10 AM
chew

lol

sevruk
09-03-2013, 06:17 AM
Sovietoid!

Starseed88
03-04-2018, 08:19 PM
Why has my Dad’s photo been used to classify Vladimir Lenin? I’m just kidding and I would say he looks Turanid?

Odin
03-04-2018, 09:14 PM
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?218237-Classify-Vladimir-Putin&p=4582518&viewfull=1#post4582518