Sikeliot, you don't have West African

[Joso]

Are you just kidding, right? I've seen your genetic results and it not even showed. It only showed on your mom's results but it was not even more than 1%. Don't think it is just noise? Or do you know you have it?

[Bobby Martnen]

He has distant West African ancestry via Cape Verde.

[Joso]

He has distant West African ancestry via Cape Verde.

But like i said in the OP, it doesn't even show in his genetic results, just shows on his mom but she don't have more than 1%

[Bobby Martnen]

But like i said in the OP, it doesn't even show in his genetic results, just shows on his mom but she don't have more than 1%

I think it shows in some calcs for him, but not others

[Joso]

I think it shows in some calcs for him, but not others

Hmm maybe, i have only seen in one calc

[Congolese Rice]

Hmm maybe, i have only seen in one calc

lol, eitherway if he calls himself black hes gonna get his ass beat even by mulattos and quadroons XDD not only full blacks

as yall can see, if i WASNT 35%> african i wouldnt score this on MyGenomeBox:

Africa
35.75%

South Europe
15.43%

West Europe
14.89%

North Europe
12.36%

East Europe
11.46%

3.74%
East
Asia

3.07%
South
America

2.23%
Asia

1.07%
North
America

35.75% + 5.97% = 41.72%


reason why i add 5.97% to the african is because i have no arab or east asian ancestry, and i already score 4% amerindian which is already 1% too much so adding east asian to the mix will only become super inaccurate.

so my 5.97% "Asia" and "east asia" are berber. you go figure XD


mygenomebox is pretty bad when it comes to specifying but it's general percentages are accurate if you intepret them right


^ and also, incase you havent noticed. my 41.72% african percentage is EXACTLY the same as in my mixed oracle mode in EthioHelix K10 + French, as you can see under my user in my yDNA area i posted my oracles. remove 2-3% from my european (58% euro) and then u get 55% euro or 56% euro which is accurate.

ancestryDNA gave me a minimum of 55% euro so i cant be any less than 51-55% euro i think. and not more either

[Heather Duval]

Hes black

[Iloko]

He posted once about how he gets his thick frizzy hair from his SSA roots.

[Congolese Rice]

He posted once about how he gets his frizzy hair from his SSA roots.

lol, i am mulatto and i have straight hair rn. (i was born with brownish curly hair and it substained it till i was 13 then it became straight) xd so idk, i definitely inherited my hair texture from my dad and my dad's side, however my mom was black but she had straight black hair (probably from euro + berber/ethiopian admix) so there u see XD if i was the son of her sister for example (who has afro-textured hair) im pretty sure id have curly hair still.


so it also has to do with genetics i think, but also with your parents their own hair texture. if both of your parents have straight hair, nevertheless if one parent is 60% african or 70% african you will 9/10 times also have straight hair when u grow up i think XD

[Congolese Rice]

Hes black

lol, just like carlitos is black ammirite? XDD lol

[Joso]

Hes black

He is black like Carlitos Way

[Joso]

He posted once about how he gets his thick frizzy hair from his SSA roots.

His hair is straight as an arrow, he likely have more chance to have amerindian than SSA, he may be a hidden Mexican illegal immigrant....

[Joso]

bump

[Joso]

He has distant West African ancestry via Cape Verde.

Can someone show this thread to Sikeliot pls?

[Sikeliot]

I'd like to clarify one thing to everyone: I never called myself "black" nor would I, however when mentioning my ancestry I do mention to people there is some mixture from my great grandmother.

My mother, my grandmother, and I all score African (in descending order which shows it is not noise), but there are some calculators where I do not score the amount I should (based on what the other two get). I always go based on the amount I should score from my grandmother's results and my mother's, not what I literally score.

Also, you can see it phenotypically in my great grandmother, and even more in HER mother.

My grandmother can score anywhere from 3-7% SSA (usually around 5%), my mother anywhere from 1-3% (usually around 2%) and I do not score the amount I should based on this, but that's the issue with random inheritance of genes, I suppose.

These are my grandmothers' results on various calculators on GEDMatch:


# Population Percent
1 ENF 40.14
2 WHG 38.3
3 CHG 10.99
4 Sub-Saharan 4.88
5 Beringian 2.88
6 ASI 2.55
7 Siberian 0.26

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Spanish_Southwest 6.03
2 Spanish_Northeast 8.17
3 Italian_North 11.56
4 French 14.22
5 Italian_South 14.49
6 Tuscan 15.04
7 Basque_Spanish 15.72
8 Bulgarian 17.08
9 Albanian 17.11
10 Greek 18.04
11 German_South 18.44
12 Sicilian 19.19
13 Sardinian 19.3
14 Croatian 19.63
15 Utahn_white 20.74
16 Hungarian 22.04
17 English_South 22.09
18 Irish 22.22
19 Ashkenazi_Jew 22.71
20 Czech 23.28

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 73.1% Basque_Spanish + 26.9% Yemeni @ 3.73
2 94.9% Spanish_Southwest + 5.1% Maasai @ 4.01
3 93.5% Spanish_Southwest + 6.5% Somali @ 4.02
4 81.2% Spanish_Northeast + 18.8% Moroccan @ 4.04
5 95.6% Spanish_Southwest + 4.4% Kikuyu @ 4.07
6 84.4% Spanish_Northeast + 15.6% Algerian @ 4.12
7 96.3% Spanish_Southwest + 3.7% N.E_Bantu @ 4.15
8 96.4% Spanish_Southwest + 3.6% Gambian @ 4.17
9 92.9% Spanish_Southwest + 7.1% Ethiopian @ 4.18
10 96.5% Spanish_Southwest + 3.5% Mende @ 4.18
11 96.5% Spanish_Southwest + 3.5% Mandinka @ 4.18
12 96.5% Spanish_Southwest + 3.5% Yoruba @ 4.19
13 96.5% Spanish_Southwest + 3.5% Esan @ 4.19
14 95.7% Spanish_Southwest + 4.3% African_American @ 4.25
15 89.1% Spanish_Northeast + 10.9% Ethiopian @ 4.3
16 81.5% Spanish_Northeast + 18.5% Tunisian @ 4.53
17 90.6% Spanish_Northeast + 9.4% Somali @ 4.58
18 89% Spanish_Southwest + 11% Moroccan @ 4.71
19 96.5% Spanish_Southwest + 3.5% Chukchi @ 4.74
20 96.7% Spanish_Southwest + 3.3% Koryak @ 4.75



# Population Percent
1 Anatolian_NF 42.1
2 European_HG 29.55
3 Caucasus_HG 11.03
4 Near_East 8.81
5 Sub-Saharan 3.84
6 Beringian 2.51
7 South_Asian 1.92
8 South_African_HG 0.24

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Spanish_Southwest 5.65
2 Spanish_Canaries 7.21
3 Spanish_Northeast 9.92
4 Italian_Bergamo 10.44
5 French 12.13
6 Romanian 13.28
7 Tuscan 14.55
8 French_South 14.86
9 Albanian 15.17
10 Belgian 15.38
11 Bulgarian 15.84
12 Greek 15.85
13 German_South 16.78
14 Croatian 17.03
15 Utahn_European 17.13
16 Sicilian_West 17.94
17 Dutch_South 18.36
18 Basque_Spaniard 18.86
19 English_South 18.93
20 Hungarian 19.33

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 91.7% Spanish_Southwest + 8.3% Somali_Benadiri @ 3.39
2 95% Spanish_Southwest + 5% Eskimo @ 3.66
3 75.1% French + 24.9% Tunisian @ 3.75
4 75.8% French + 24.2% Mozabite_Berber @ 3.75
5 78.4% French + 21.6% Saharawi @ 3.76
6 96% Spanish_Southwest + 4% Chukchi @ 3.77
7 96.1% Spanish_Southwest + 3.9% Koryak @ 3.81
8 93.6% Spanish_Southwest + 6.4% Somali @ 3.89
9 93.4% Spanish_Southwest + 6.6% Oromo @ 3.91
10 92.8% Spanish_Southwest + 7.2% Ethiopian @ 3.93
11 95% Spanish_Southwest + 5% Maasai @ 3.94
12 74.2% French + 25.8% Algerian @ 4.01
13 96.4% Spanish_Southwest + 3.6% NE_Bantu @ 4.17
14 85.4% Spanish_Canaries + 14.6% Russian @ 4.21
15 96.7% Spanish_Southwest + 3.3% Esan @ 4.24
16 94.7% Spanish_Southwest + 5.3% Bengali_Muslim @ 4.25
17 95.9% Spanish_Southwest + 4.1% African_American @ 4.25
18 96.7% Spanish_Southwest + 3.3% Bambaran @ 4.26
19 96.7% Spanish_Southwest + 3.3% Mandinka @ 4.26
20 92.1% Spanish_Southwest + 7.9% Yemeni @ 4.27



# Population Percent
1 Atlantic_Baltic 60.66
2 Southern 25.99
3 Caucasus_Gedrosia 8.78
4 African 3.74
5 Australasian 0.47
6 East_Asian 0.37

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Extremadura (1000 Genomes) 2.89
2 Portuguese (Dodecad) 3.48
3 Galicia (1000 Genomes) 3.82
4 Andalucia (1000 Genomes) 4.07
5 Baleares (1000 Genomes) 4.24
6 Spaniards (Behar) 4.51
7 Castilla_La_Mancha (1000 Genomes) 4.71
8 Castilla_Y_Leon (1000 Genomes) 5.03
9 Valencia (1000 Genomes) 5.38
10 Spanish (Dodecad) 5.5
11 Murcia (1000 Genomes) 5.51
12 Cataluna (1000 Genomes) 6.22
13 Cantabria (1000 Genomes) 7.38
14 Canarias (1000 Genomes) 7.4
15 Aragon (1000 Genomes) 7.57
16 North_Italian (HGDP) 7.76
17 N_Italian (Dodecad) 7.97
18 Brazilian (Dodecad) 8.81
19 French (Dodecad) 11.1
20 French (HGDP) 11.62

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 75.5% Canarias (1000 Genomes) + 24.5% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) @ 1.22
2 78.3% Canarias (1000 Genomes) + 21.7% Belorussian (Behar) @ 1.36
3 77% Canarias (1000 Genomes) + 23% Polish (Dodecad) @ 1.37
4 72.4% Canarias (1000 Genomes) + 27.6% Dutch (Dodecad) @ 1.47
5 82.4% French (Dodecad) + 17.6% Mozabite @ 1.5
6 67.7% Canarias (1000 Genomes) + 32.3% Hungarians (Behar) @ 1.5
7 72.9% Canarias (1000 Genomes) + 27.1% German (Dodecad) @ 1.5
8 71% Canarias (1000 Genomes) + 29% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) @ 1.56
9 78.7% Canarias (1000 Genomes) + 21.3% Russian_B (Behar) @ 1.58
10 75.5% Canarias (1000 Genomes) + 24.5% Argyll (1000 Genomes) @ 1.58
11 96.3% Spaniards (Behar) + 3.7% San_He @ 1.63
12 73.1% Canarias (1000 Genomes) + 26.9% CEU30 (1000Genomes) @ 1.65
13 81.8% Canarias (1000 Genomes) + 18.2% Lithuanians @ 1.69
14 96.8% Spaniards (Behar) + 3.2% San @ 1.72
15 96.8% Spaniards (Behar) + 3.2% Bantu_S.W._Herero (HGDP) @ 1.74
16 96.4% Spaniards (Behar) + 3.6% Hadza_He @ 1.74
17 96.6% Spaniards (Behar) + 3.4% LWK30 (Behar) @ 1.74
18 96.4% Spaniards (Behar) + 3.6% ACB30 @ 1.74
19 96.6% Spaniards (Behar) + 3.4% Bantu_N.E. (HGDP) @ 1.74
20 96.7% Spaniards (Behar) + 3.3% Mandenka @ 1.75



# Population Percent
1 Atlantic 36.08
2 West_Med 19.36
3 North_Sea 17.45
4 Baltic 8.02
5 East_Med 7.66
6 Northeast_African 3.62
7 Red_Sea 3.5
8 Eastern_Euro 1.88
9 Southeast_Asian 0.89
10 Sub-Saharan 0.88
11 West_Asian 0.46
12 Oceanian 0.2

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Spanish_Aragon 6.13
2 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 6.38
3 Spanish_Valencia 6.74
4 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 6.89
5 Southwest_French 6.96
6 Spanish_Cantabria 7.36
7 Spanish_Andalucia 7.88
8 Spanish_Murcia 7.92
9 Spanish_Cataluna 8.45
10 Spanish_Extremadura 8.95
11 Portuguese 10.03
12 Spanish_Galicia 11.67
13 French_Basque 11.74
14 French 14.64
15 North_Italian 14.7
16 South_Dutch 17.55
17 Tuscan 20.05
18 Southwest_English 20.13
19 Austrian 20.93
20 Southeast_English 20.98

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 68% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 32% French_Basque @ 4.67
2 96% Spanish_Aragon + 4% Ethiopian_Ari_cultivator @ 4.84
3 95.9% Spanish_Aragon + 4.1% Ethiopian_Gumuz @ 4.88
4 95.4% Spanish_Aragon + 4.6% Ethiopian_Wolayta @ 4.91
5 95.9% Spanish_Aragon + 4.1% Hadza @ 4.93
6 95.3% Spanish_Aragon + 4.7% Somali @ 4.94
7 95.5% Spanish_Aragon + 4.5% Maasai @ 4.94
8 95.2% Spanish_Aragon + 4.8% Ethiopian_Oromo @ 4.96
9 95.7% Spanish_Aragon + 4.3% Sandawe @ 5.04
10 96.2% Spanish_Aragon + 3.8% Ethiopian_Anuak @ 5.11
11 95.2% Spanish_Aragon + 4.8% Ethiopian_Amhara @ 5.11
12 95.2% Spanish_Aragon + 4.8% Ethiopian_Tigray @ 5.18
13 96.4% Spanish_Aragon + 3.6% Sudanese @ 5.2
14 90.7% Spanish_Aragon + 9.3% La_Brana-1 @ 5.23
15 64.3% Spanish_Murcia + 35.7% French_Basque @ 5.39
16 96.9% Spanish_Aragon + 3.1% San @ 5.41
17 94.4% Southwest_French + 5.6% Ethiopian_Oromo @ 5.48
18 93.9% Southwest_French + 6.1% Ethiopian_Amhara @ 5.48
19 93.3% Spanish_Aragon + 6.7% Lithuanian @ 5.49
20 94.6% Southwest_French + 5.4% Ethiopian_Wolayta @ 5.49



# Population Percent
1 Neolithic 40.87
2 WHG 27.64
3 EHG 18.75
4 Basal 7.86
5 African 4.49
6 Amerindian 0.32
7 Siberian 0.07




# Population Percent
1 South_and_West_European 46.61
2 North_and_East_European 29.52
3 Middle_East 12.84
4 Caucaus_Parsia 5.56
5 Sub_Saharian 3.12
6 Indian 1.45
7 Paleo_African 0.91

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Swiss 7.08
2 Montenegrin 7.58
3 Macedonian 7.98
4 Serbian 8.13
5 Provancal 8.33
6 Italian_North 8.98
7 Bulgarian 9.07
8 Portugese 9.41
9 German-South 9.94
10 Bosnian 10.57
11 French 10.89
12 Croatian 11.54
13 Romania 11.65
14 Gagauz 11.75
15 Iberian 11.91
16 Austrian 12.56
17 Spaniard 12.59
18 Hungarian 12.66
19 Italian-North 13.05
20 Slovenian 13.78

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 83.3% Portugese + 16.7% Finnish-North @ 2.99
2 59.4% Ukrainian-Center + 40.6% Otzi @ 3.18
3 61.2% Ukrainian_V + 38.8% Otzi @ 3.21
4 82.9% Portugese + 17.1% Vepsa @ 3.24
5 82.6% German-South + 17.4% Mozabite @ 3.26
6 69.5% Croatian_V + 30.5% Otzi @ 3.27
7 62% Ukrainian-West + 38% Otzi @ 3.3
8 81.8% Portugese + 18.2% Finnish-South @ 3.34
9 57.7% Ukrainian-East + 42.3% Otzi @ 3.42
10 86.7% Portugese + 13.3% Saami @ 3.5
11 81.9% Portugese + 18.1% Karelian @ 3.53
12 80.8% Portugese + 19.2% Finnish @ 3.54
13 77.2% Portugese + 22.8% Moldavian @ 3.54
14 79.3% Portugese + 20.7% Russian_North @ 3.59
15 68.9% Portugese + 31.1% Latvian_V @ 3.59
16 56.7% Russian_South + 43.3% Otzi @ 3.73
17 62.7% Portugese + 37.3% Croatian_V @ 3.74
18 87.8% French + 12.2% Jew_Ethiopia @ 3.77
19 83.9% German-South + 16.1% Moroccan @ 3.77
20 77.4% Portugese + 22.6% Mordovian @ 3.78




# Population Percent
1 Atlantic_Baltic 60
2 Southern 27.03
3 West_Asian 8.59
4 African 3.71
5 East_Asian 0.63
6 Siberian 0.03

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Extremadura (1000Genomes) 3.41
2 Portuguese (Dodecad) 3.88
3 Galicia (1000Genomes) 4.19
4 Spaniards (Behar) 4.52
5 Baleares (1000Genomes) 4.53
6 Andalucia (1000Genomes) 4.81
7 Murcia (1000Genomes) 5.1
8 Spanish (Dodecad) 5.45
9 Castilla_Y_Leon (1000Genomes) 5.46
10 Castilla_La_Mancha (1000Genomes) 5.65
11 Valencia (1000Genomes) 6.24
12 Cataluna (1000Genomes) 6.61
13 Cantabria (1000Genomes) 7.52
14 Aragon (1000Genomes) 7.54
15 Canarias (1000Genomes) 7.9
16 North_Italian (HGDP) 8.41
17 N_Italian (Dodecad) 8.85
18 French (Dodecad) 12.02
19 French (HGDP) 12.18
20 Romanians (Behar) 14.02

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 81.3% French (HGDP) + 18.7% Mozabite (HGDP) @ 0.86
2 78% French (HGDP) + 22% Moroccan (Dodecad) @ 0.99
3 81.3% French (HGDP) + 18.7% Moroccans (Behar) @ 1
4 75.5% Canarias (1000Genomes) + 24.5% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) @ 1.13
5 67.5% Canarias (1000Genomes) + 32.5% Hungarians (Behar) @ 1.28
6 78.7% French (HGDP) + 21.3% Algerian (Dodecad) @ 1.29
7 76.3% Canarias (1000Genomes) + 23.7% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) @ 1.29
8 78.7% Canarias (1000Genomes) + 21.3% Russian_B (Behar) @ 1.57
9 77.4% Canarias (1000Genomes) + 22.6% Polish (Dodecad) @ 1.59
10 73.6% Canarias (1000Genomes) + 26.4% Dutch (Dodecad) @ 1.64
11 78.9% Canarias (1000Genomes) + 21.1% Russian (Dodecad) @ 1.67
12 72.5% Canarias (1000Genomes) + 27.5% German (Dodecad) @ 1.68
13 96.2% Spaniards (Behar) + 3.8% Sandawe (Henn) @ 1.71
14 96.8% Spaniards (Behar) + 3.2% LWK30 (Behar) @ 1.72
15 96.9% Spaniards (Behar) + 3.1% Bantu_N.E. (HGDP) @ 1.72
16 96.9% Spaniards (Behar) + 3.1% Bantu_S.W._Herero (HGDP) @ 1.73
17 96.9% Spaniards (Behar) + 3.1% Bantu_S.E._Tswana (HGDP) @ 1.74
18 96.9% Spaniards (Behar) + 3.1% Mandenka (HGDP) @ 1.74
19 97% Spaniards (Behar) + 3% Yoruba (HGDP) @ 1.74
20 97% Spaniards (Behar) + 3% YRI30 (HGDP) @ 1.74

[Joso]

I'd like to clarify one thing to everyone: I never called myself "black" nor would I, however when mentioning my ancestry I do mention to people there is some mixture from my great grandmother.

My mother, my grandmother, and I all score African (in descending order which shows it is not noise), but there are some calculators where I do not score the amount I should (based on what the other two get). I always go based on the amount I should score from my grandmother's results and my mother's, not what I literally score.

Also, you can see it phenotypically in my great grandmother, and even more in HER mother.

My grandmother can score anywhere from 3-7% SSA (usually around 5%), my mother anywhere from 1-3% (usually around 2%) and I do not score the amount I should based on this, but that's the issue with random inheritance of genes, I suppose.

These are my grandmothers' results on various calculators on GEDMatch:


# Population Percent
1 ENF 40.14
2 WHG 38.3
3 CHG 10.99
4 Sub-Saharan 4.88
5 Beringian 2.88
6 ASI 2.55
7 Siberian 0.26

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Spanish_Southwest 6.03
2 Spanish_Northeast 8.17
3 Italian_North 11.56
4 French 14.22
5 Italian_South 14.49
6 Tuscan 15.04
7 Basque_Spanish 15.72
8 Bulgarian 17.08
9 Albanian 17.11
10 Greek 18.04
11 German_South 18.44
12 Sicilian 19.19
13 Sardinian 19.3
14 Croatian 19.63
15 Utahn_white 20.74
16 Hungarian 22.04
17 English_South 22.09
18 Irish 22.22
19 Ashkenazi_Jew 22.71
20 Czech 23.28

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 73.1% Basque_Spanish + 26.9% Yemeni @ 3.73
2 94.9% Spanish_Southwest + 5.1% Maasai @ 4.01
3 93.5% Spanish_Southwest + 6.5% Somali @ 4.02
4 81.2% Spanish_Northeast + 18.8% Moroccan @ 4.04
5 95.6% Spanish_Southwest + 4.4% Kikuyu @ 4.07
6 84.4% Spanish_Northeast + 15.6% Algerian @ 4.12
7 96.3% Spanish_Southwest + 3.7% N.E_Bantu @ 4.15
8 96.4% Spanish_Southwest + 3.6% Gambian @ 4.17
9 92.9% Spanish_Southwest + 7.1% Ethiopian @ 4.18
10 96.5% Spanish_Southwest + 3.5% Mende @ 4.18
11 96.5% Spanish_Southwest + 3.5% Mandinka @ 4.18
12 96.5% Spanish_Southwest + 3.5% Yoruba @ 4.19
13 96.5% Spanish_Southwest + 3.5% Esan @ 4.19
14 95.7% Spanish_Southwest + 4.3% African_American @ 4.25
15 89.1% Spanish_Northeast + 10.9% Ethiopian @ 4.3
16 81.5% Spanish_Northeast + 18.5% Tunisian @ 4.53
17 90.6% Spanish_Northeast + 9.4% Somali @ 4.58
18 89% Spanish_Southwest + 11% Moroccan @ 4.71
19 96.5% Spanish_Southwest + 3.5% Chukchi @ 4.74
20 96.7% Spanish_Southwest + 3.3% Koryak @ 4.75



# Population Percent
1 Anatolian_NF 42.1
2 European_HG 29.55
3 Caucasus_HG 11.03
4 Near_East 8.81
5 Sub-Saharan 3.84
6 Beringian 2.51
7 South_Asian 1.92
8 South_African_HG 0.24

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Spanish_Southwest 5.65
2 Spanish_Canaries 7.21
3 Spanish_Northeast 9.92
4 Italian_Bergamo 10.44
5 French 12.13
6 Romanian 13.28
7 Tuscan 14.55
8 French_South 14.86
9 Albanian 15.17
10 Belgian 15.38
11 Bulgarian 15.84
12 Greek 15.85
13 German_South 16.78
14 Croatian 17.03
15 Utahn_European 17.13
16 Sicilian_West 17.94
17 Dutch_South 18.36
18 Basque_Spaniard 18.86
19 English_South 18.93
20 Hungarian 19.33

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 91.7% Spanish_Southwest + 8.3% Somali_Benadiri @ 3.39
2 95% Spanish_Southwest + 5% Eskimo @ 3.66
3 75.1% French + 24.9% Tunisian @ 3.75
4 75.8% French + 24.2% Mozabite_Berber @ 3.75
5 78.4% French + 21.6% Saharawi @ 3.76
6 96% Spanish_Southwest + 4% Chukchi @ 3.77
7 96.1% Spanish_Southwest + 3.9% Koryak @ 3.81
8 93.6% Spanish_Southwest + 6.4% Somali @ 3.89
9 93.4% Spanish_Southwest + 6.6% Oromo @ 3.91
10 92.8% Spanish_Southwest + 7.2% Ethiopian @ 3.93
11 95% Spanish_Southwest + 5% Maasai @ 3.94
12 74.2% French + 25.8% Algerian @ 4.01
13 96.4% Spanish_Southwest + 3.6% NE_Bantu @ 4.17
14 85.4% Spanish_Canaries + 14.6% Russian @ 4.21
15 96.7% Spanish_Southwest + 3.3% Esan @ 4.24
16 94.7% Spanish_Southwest + 5.3% Bengali_Muslim @ 4.25
17 95.9% Spanish_Southwest + 4.1% African_American @ 4.25
18 96.7% Spanish_Southwest + 3.3% Bambaran @ 4.26
19 96.7% Spanish_Southwest + 3.3% Mandinka @ 4.26
20 92.1% Spanish_Southwest + 7.9% Yemeni @ 4.27



# Population Percent
1 Atlantic_Baltic 60.66
2 Southern 25.99
3 Caucasus_Gedrosia 8.78
4 African 3.74
5 Australasian 0.47
6 East_Asian 0.37

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Extremadura (1000 Genomes) 2.89
2 Portuguese (Dodecad) 3.48
3 Galicia (1000 Genomes) 3.82
4 Andalucia (1000 Genomes) 4.07
5 Baleares (1000 Genomes) 4.24
6 Spaniards (Behar) 4.51
7 Castilla_La_Mancha (1000 Genomes) 4.71
8 Castilla_Y_Leon (1000 Genomes) 5.03
9 Valencia (1000 Genomes) 5.38
10 Spanish (Dodecad) 5.5
11 Murcia (1000 Genomes) 5.51
12 Cataluna (1000 Genomes) 6.22
13 Cantabria (1000 Genomes) 7.38
14 Canarias (1000 Genomes) 7.4
15 Aragon (1000 Genomes) 7.57
16 North_Italian (HGDP) 7.76
17 N_Italian (Dodecad) 7.97
18 Brazilian (Dodecad) 8.81
19 French (Dodecad) 11.1
20 French (HGDP) 11.62

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 75.5% Canarias (1000 Genomes) + 24.5% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) @ 1.22
2 78.3% Canarias (1000 Genomes) + 21.7% Belorussian (Behar) @ 1.36
3 77% Canarias (1000 Genomes) + 23% Polish (Dodecad) @ 1.37
4 72.4% Canarias (1000 Genomes) + 27.6% Dutch (Dodecad) @ 1.47
5 82.4% French (Dodecad) + 17.6% Mozabite @ 1.5
6 67.7% Canarias (1000 Genomes) + 32.3% Hungarians (Behar) @ 1.5
7 72.9% Canarias (1000 Genomes) + 27.1% German (Dodecad) @ 1.5
8 71% Canarias (1000 Genomes) + 29% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) @ 1.56
9 78.7% Canarias (1000 Genomes) + 21.3% Russian_B (Behar) @ 1.58
10 75.5% Canarias (1000 Genomes) + 24.5% Argyll (1000 Genomes) @ 1.58
11 96.3% Spaniards (Behar) + 3.7% San_He @ 1.63
12 73.1% Canarias (1000 Genomes) + 26.9% CEU30 (1000Genomes) @ 1.65
13 81.8% Canarias (1000 Genomes) + 18.2% Lithuanians @ 1.69
14 96.8% Spaniards (Behar) + 3.2% San @ 1.72
15 96.8% Spaniards (Behar) + 3.2% Bantu_S.W._Herero (HGDP) @ 1.74
16 96.4% Spaniards (Behar) + 3.6% Hadza_He @ 1.74
17 96.6% Spaniards (Behar) + 3.4% LWK30 (Behar) @ 1.74
18 96.4% Spaniards (Behar) + 3.6% ACB30 @ 1.74
19 96.6% Spaniards (Behar) + 3.4% Bantu_N.E. (HGDP) @ 1.74
20 96.7% Spaniards (Behar) + 3.3% Mandenka @ 1.75



# Population Percent
1 Atlantic 36.08
2 West_Med 19.36
3 North_Sea 17.45
4 Baltic 8.02
5 East_Med 7.66
6 Northeast_African 3.62
7 Red_Sea 3.5
8 Eastern_Euro 1.88
9 Southeast_Asian 0.89
10 Sub-Saharan 0.88
11 West_Asian 0.46
12 Oceanian 0.2

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Spanish_Aragon 6.13
2 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 6.38
3 Spanish_Valencia 6.74
4 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 6.89
5 Southwest_French 6.96
6 Spanish_Cantabria 7.36
7 Spanish_Andalucia 7.88
8 Spanish_Murcia 7.92
9 Spanish_Cataluna 8.45
10 Spanish_Extremadura 8.95
11 Portuguese 10.03
12 Spanish_Galicia 11.67
13 French_Basque 11.74
14 French 14.64
15 North_Italian 14.7
16 South_Dutch 17.55
17 Tuscan 20.05
18 Southwest_English 20.13
19 Austrian 20.93
20 Southeast_English 20.98

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 68% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 32% French_Basque @ 4.67
2 96% Spanish_Aragon + 4% Ethiopian_Ari_cultivator @ 4.84
3 95.9% Spanish_Aragon + 4.1% Ethiopian_Gumuz @ 4.88
4 95.4% Spanish_Aragon + 4.6% Ethiopian_Wolayta @ 4.91
5 95.9% Spanish_Aragon + 4.1% Hadza @ 4.93
6 95.3% Spanish_Aragon + 4.7% Somali @ 4.94
7 95.5% Spanish_Aragon + 4.5% Maasai @ 4.94
8 95.2% Spanish_Aragon + 4.8% Ethiopian_Oromo @ 4.96
9 95.7% Spanish_Aragon + 4.3% Sandawe @ 5.04
10 96.2% Spanish_Aragon + 3.8% Ethiopian_Anuak @ 5.11
11 95.2% Spanish_Aragon + 4.8% Ethiopian_Amhara @ 5.11
12 95.2% Spanish_Aragon + 4.8% Ethiopian_Tigray @ 5.18
13 96.4% Spanish_Aragon + 3.6% Sudanese @ 5.2
14 90.7% Spanish_Aragon + 9.3% La_Brana-1 @ 5.23
15 64.3% Spanish_Murcia + 35.7% French_Basque @ 5.39
16 96.9% Spanish_Aragon + 3.1% San @ 5.41
17 94.4% Southwest_French + 5.6% Ethiopian_Oromo @ 5.48
18 93.9% Southwest_French + 6.1% Ethiopian_Amhara @ 5.48
19 93.3% Spanish_Aragon + 6.7% Lithuanian @ 5.49
20 94.6% Southwest_French + 5.4% Ethiopian_Wolayta @ 5.49



# Population Percent
1 Neolithic 40.87
2 WHG 27.64
3 EHG 18.75
4 Basal 7.86
5 African 4.49
6 Amerindian 0.32
7 Siberian 0.07




# Population Percent
1 South_and_West_European 46.61
2 North_and_East_European 29.52
3 Middle_East 12.84
4 Caucaus_Parsia 5.56
5 Sub_Saharian 3.12
6 Indian 1.45
7 Paleo_African 0.91

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Swiss 7.08
2 Montenegrin 7.58
3 Macedonian 7.98
4 Serbian 8.13
5 Provancal 8.33
6 Italian_North 8.98
7 Bulgarian 9.07
8 Portugese 9.41
9 German-South 9.94
10 Bosnian 10.57
11 French 10.89
12 Croatian 11.54
13 Romania 11.65
14 Gagauz 11.75
15 Iberian 11.91
16 Austrian 12.56
17 Spaniard 12.59
18 Hungarian 12.66
19 Italian-North 13.05
20 Slovenian 13.78

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 83.3% Portugese + 16.7% Finnish-North @ 2.99
2 59.4% Ukrainian-Center + 40.6% Otzi @ 3.18
3 61.2% Ukrainian_V + 38.8% Otzi @ 3.21
4 82.9% Portugese + 17.1% Vepsa @ 3.24
5 82.6% German-South + 17.4% Mozabite @ 3.26
6 69.5% Croatian_V + 30.5% Otzi @ 3.27
7 62% Ukrainian-West + 38% Otzi @ 3.3
8 81.8% Portugese + 18.2% Finnish-South @ 3.34
9 57.7% Ukrainian-East + 42.3% Otzi @ 3.42
10 86.7% Portugese + 13.3% Saami @ 3.5
11 81.9% Portugese + 18.1% Karelian @ 3.53
12 80.8% Portugese + 19.2% Finnish @ 3.54
13 77.2% Portugese + 22.8% Moldavian @ 3.54
14 79.3% Portugese + 20.7% Russian_North @ 3.59
15 68.9% Portugese + 31.1% Latvian_V @ 3.59
16 56.7% Russian_South + 43.3% Otzi @ 3.73
17 62.7% Portugese + 37.3% Croatian_V @ 3.74
18 87.8% French + 12.2% Jew_Ethiopia @ 3.77
19 83.9% German-South + 16.1% Moroccan @ 3.77
20 77.4% Portugese + 22.6% Mordovian @ 3.78




# Population Percent
1 Atlantic_Baltic 60
2 Southern 27.03
3 West_Asian 8.59
4 African 3.71
5 East_Asian 0.63
6 Siberian 0.03

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Extremadura (1000Genomes) 3.41
2 Portuguese (Dodecad) 3.88
3 Galicia (1000Genomes) 4.19
4 Spaniards (Behar) 4.52
5 Baleares (1000Genomes) 4.53
6 Andalucia (1000Genomes) 4.81
7 Murcia (1000Genomes) 5.1
8 Spanish (Dodecad) 5.45
9 Castilla_Y_Leon (1000Genomes) 5.46
10 Castilla_La_Mancha (1000Genomes) 5.65
11 Valencia (1000Genomes) 6.24
12 Cataluna (1000Genomes) 6.61
13 Cantabria (1000Genomes) 7.52
14 Aragon (1000Genomes) 7.54
15 Canarias (1000Genomes) 7.9
16 North_Italian (HGDP) 8.41
17 N_Italian (Dodecad) 8.85
18 French (Dodecad) 12.02
19 French (HGDP) 12.18
20 Romanians (Behar) 14.02

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 81.3% French (HGDP) + 18.7% Mozabite (HGDP) @ 0.86
2 78% French (HGDP) + 22% Moroccan (Dodecad) @ 0.99
3 81.3% French (HGDP) + 18.7% Moroccans (Behar) @ 1
4 75.5% Canarias (1000Genomes) + 24.5% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) @ 1.13
5 67.5% Canarias (1000Genomes) + 32.5% Hungarians (Behar) @ 1.28
6 78.7% French (HGDP) + 21.3% Algerian (Dodecad) @ 1.29
7 76.3% Canarias (1000Genomes) + 23.7% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) @ 1.29
8 78.7% Canarias (1000Genomes) + 21.3% Russian_B (Behar) @ 1.57
9 77.4% Canarias (1000Genomes) + 22.6% Polish (Dodecad) @ 1.59
10 73.6% Canarias (1000Genomes) + 26.4% Dutch (Dodecad) @ 1.64
11 78.9% Canarias (1000Genomes) + 21.1% Russian (Dodecad) @ 1.67
12 72.5% Canarias (1000Genomes) + 27.5% German (Dodecad) @ 1.68
13 96.2% Spaniards (Behar) + 3.8% Sandawe (Henn) @ 1.71
14 96.8% Spaniards (Behar) + 3.2% LWK30 (Behar) @ 1.72
15 96.9% Spaniards (Behar) + 3.1% Bantu_N.E. (HGDP) @ 1.72
16 96.9% Spaniards (Behar) + 3.1% Bantu_S.W._Herero (HGDP) @ 1.73
17 96.9% Spaniards (Behar) + 3.1% Bantu_S.E._Tswana (HGDP) @ 1.74
18 96.9% Spaniards (Behar) + 3.1% Mandenka (HGDP) @ 1.74
19 97% Spaniards (Behar) + 3% Yoruba (HGDP) @ 1.74
20 97% Spaniards (Behar) + 3% YRI30 (HGDP) @ 1.74


Oh thanks for clarifying. It seens your grandmother was like 3,5% SSA on average in these GDmatchs, right?

[BlueMan]

I'd like to clarify one thing to everyone: I never called myself "black" nor would I, however when mentioning my ancestry I do mention to people there is some mixture from my great grandmother.

My mother, my grandmother, and I all score African (in descending order which shows it is not noise), but there are some calculators where I do not score the amount I should (based on what the other two get). I always go based on the amount I should score from my grandmother's results and my mother's, not what I literally score.

Also, you can see it phenotypically in my great grandmother, and even more in HER mother.

My grandmother can score anywhere from 3-7% SSA (usually around 5%), my mother anywhere from 1-3% (usually around 2%) and I do not score the amount I should based on this, but that's the issue with random inheritance of genes, I suppose.

These are my grandmothers' results on various calculators on GEDMatch:


# Population Percent
1 ENF 40.14
2 WHG 38.3
3 CHG 10.99
4 Sub-Saharan 4.88
5 Beringian 2.88
6 ASI 2.55
7 Siberian 0.26

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Spanish_Southwest 6.03
2 Spanish_Northeast 8.17
3 Italian_North 11.56
4 French 14.22
5 Italian_South 14.49
6 Tuscan 15.04
7 Basque_Spanish 15.72
8 Bulgarian 17.08
9 Albanian 17.11
10 Greek 18.04
11 German_South 18.44
12 Sicilian 19.19
13 Sardinian 19.3
14 Croatian 19.63
15 Utahn_white 20.74
16 Hungarian 22.04
17 English_South 22.09
18 Irish 22.22
19 Ashkenazi_Jew 22.71
20 Czech 23.28

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 73.1% Basque_Spanish + 26.9% Yemeni @ 3.73
2 94.9% Spanish_Southwest + 5.1% Maasai @ 4.01
3 93.5% Spanish_Southwest + 6.5% Somali @ 4.02
4 81.2% Spanish_Northeast + 18.8% Moroccan @ 4.04
5 95.6% Spanish_Southwest + 4.4% Kikuyu @ 4.07
6 84.4% Spanish_Northeast + 15.6% Algerian @ 4.12
7 96.3% Spanish_Southwest + 3.7% N.E_Bantu @ 4.15
8 96.4% Spanish_Southwest + 3.6% Gambian @ 4.17
9 92.9% Spanish_Southwest + 7.1% Ethiopian @ 4.18
10 96.5% Spanish_Southwest + 3.5% Mende @ 4.18
11 96.5% Spanish_Southwest + 3.5% Mandinka @ 4.18
12 96.5% Spanish_Southwest + 3.5% Yoruba @ 4.19
13 96.5% Spanish_Southwest + 3.5% Esan @ 4.19
14 95.7% Spanish_Southwest + 4.3% African_American @ 4.25
15 89.1% Spanish_Northeast + 10.9% Ethiopian @ 4.3
16 81.5% Spanish_Northeast + 18.5% Tunisian @ 4.53
17 90.6% Spanish_Northeast + 9.4% Somali @ 4.58
18 89% Spanish_Southwest + 11% Moroccan @ 4.71
19 96.5% Spanish_Southwest + 3.5% Chukchi @ 4.74
20 96.7% Spanish_Southwest + 3.3% Koryak @ 4.75



# Population Percent
1 Anatolian_NF 42.1
2 European_HG 29.55
3 Caucasus_HG 11.03
4 Near_East 8.81
5 Sub-Saharan 3.84
6 Beringian 2.51
7 South_Asian 1.92
8 South_African_HG 0.24

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Spanish_Southwest 5.65
2 Spanish_Canaries 7.21
3 Spanish_Northeast 9.92
4 Italian_Bergamo 10.44
5 French 12.13
6 Romanian 13.28
7 Tuscan 14.55
8 French_South 14.86
9 Albanian 15.17
10 Belgian 15.38
11 Bulgarian 15.84
12 Greek 15.85
13 German_South 16.78
14 Croatian 17.03
15 Utahn_European 17.13
16 Sicilian_West 17.94
17 Dutch_South 18.36
18 Basque_Spaniard 18.86
19 English_South 18.93
20 Hungarian 19.33

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 91.7% Spanish_Southwest + 8.3% Somali_Benadiri @ 3.39
2 95% Spanish_Southwest + 5% Eskimo @ 3.66
3 75.1% French + 24.9% Tunisian @ 3.75
4 75.8% French + 24.2% Mozabite_Berber @ 3.75
5 78.4% French + 21.6% Saharawi @ 3.76
6 96% Spanish_Southwest + 4% Chukchi @ 3.77
7 96.1% Spanish_Southwest + 3.9% Koryak @ 3.81
8 93.6% Spanish_Southwest + 6.4% Somali @ 3.89
9 93.4% Spanish_Southwest + 6.6% Oromo @ 3.91
10 92.8% Spanish_Southwest + 7.2% Ethiopian @ 3.93
11 95% Spanish_Southwest + 5% Maasai @ 3.94
12 74.2% French + 25.8% Algerian @ 4.01
13 96.4% Spanish_Southwest + 3.6% NE_Bantu @ 4.17
14 85.4% Spanish_Canaries + 14.6% Russian @ 4.21
15 96.7% Spanish_Southwest + 3.3% Esan @ 4.24
16 94.7% Spanish_Southwest + 5.3% Bengali_Muslim @ 4.25
17 95.9% Spanish_Southwest + 4.1% African_American @ 4.25
18 96.7% Spanish_Southwest + 3.3% Bambaran @ 4.26
19 96.7% Spanish_Southwest + 3.3% Mandinka @ 4.26
20 92.1% Spanish_Southwest + 7.9% Yemeni @ 4.27



# Population Percent
1 Atlantic_Baltic 60.66
2 Southern 25.99
3 Caucasus_Gedrosia 8.78
4 African 3.74
5 Australasian 0.47
6 East_Asian 0.37

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Extremadura (1000 Genomes) 2.89
2 Portuguese (Dodecad) 3.48
3 Galicia (1000 Genomes) 3.82
4 Andalucia (1000 Genomes) 4.07
5 Baleares (1000 Genomes) 4.24
6 Spaniards (Behar) 4.51
7 Castilla_La_Mancha (1000 Genomes) 4.71
8 Castilla_Y_Leon (1000 Genomes) 5.03
9 Valencia (1000 Genomes) 5.38
10 Spanish (Dodecad) 5.5
11 Murcia (1000 Genomes) 5.51
12 Cataluna (1000 Genomes) 6.22
13 Cantabria (1000 Genomes) 7.38
14 Canarias (1000 Genomes) 7.4
15 Aragon (1000 Genomes) 7.57
16 North_Italian (HGDP) 7.76
17 N_Italian (Dodecad) 7.97
18 Brazilian (Dodecad) 8.81
19 French (Dodecad) 11.1
20 French (HGDP) 11.62

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 75.5% Canarias (1000 Genomes) + 24.5% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) @ 1.22
2 78.3% Canarias (1000 Genomes) + 21.7% Belorussian (Behar) @ 1.36
3 77% Canarias (1000 Genomes) + 23% Polish (Dodecad) @ 1.37
4 72.4% Canarias (1000 Genomes) + 27.6% Dutch (Dodecad) @ 1.47
5 82.4% French (Dodecad) + 17.6% Mozabite @ 1.5
6 67.7% Canarias (1000 Genomes) + 32.3% Hungarians (Behar) @ 1.5
7 72.9% Canarias (1000 Genomes) + 27.1% German (Dodecad) @ 1.5
8 71% Canarias (1000 Genomes) + 29% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) @ 1.56
9 78.7% Canarias (1000 Genomes) + 21.3% Russian_B (Behar) @ 1.58
10 75.5% Canarias (1000 Genomes) + 24.5% Argyll (1000 Genomes) @ 1.58
11 96.3% Spaniards (Behar) + 3.7% San_He @ 1.63
12 73.1% Canarias (1000 Genomes) + 26.9% CEU30 (1000Genomes) @ 1.65
13 81.8% Canarias (1000 Genomes) + 18.2% Lithuanians @ 1.69
14 96.8% Spaniards (Behar) + 3.2% San @ 1.72
15 96.8% Spaniards (Behar) + 3.2% Bantu_S.W._Herero (HGDP) @ 1.74
16 96.4% Spaniards (Behar) + 3.6% Hadza_He @ 1.74
17 96.6% Spaniards (Behar) + 3.4% LWK30 (Behar) @ 1.74
18 96.4% Spaniards (Behar) + 3.6% ACB30 @ 1.74
19 96.6% Spaniards (Behar) + 3.4% Bantu_N.E. (HGDP) @ 1.74
20 96.7% Spaniards (Behar) + 3.3% Mandenka @ 1.75



# Population Percent
1 Atlantic 36.08
2 West_Med 19.36
3 North_Sea 17.45
4 Baltic 8.02
5 East_Med 7.66
6 Northeast_African 3.62
7 Red_Sea 3.5
8 Eastern_Euro 1.88
9 Southeast_Asian 0.89
10 Sub-Saharan 0.88
11 West_Asian 0.46
12 Oceanian 0.2

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Spanish_Aragon 6.13
2 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 6.38
3 Spanish_Valencia 6.74
4 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 6.89
5 Southwest_French 6.96
6 Spanish_Cantabria 7.36
7 Spanish_Andalucia 7.88
8 Spanish_Murcia 7.92
9 Spanish_Cataluna 8.45
10 Spanish_Extremadura 8.95
11 Portuguese 10.03
12 Spanish_Galicia 11.67
13 French_Basque 11.74
14 French 14.64
15 North_Italian 14.7
16 South_Dutch 17.55
17 Tuscan 20.05
18 Southwest_English 20.13
19 Austrian 20.93
20 Southeast_English 20.98

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 68% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 32% French_Basque @ 4.67
2 96% Spanish_Aragon + 4% Ethiopian_Ari_cultivator @ 4.84
3 95.9% Spanish_Aragon + 4.1% Ethiopian_Gumuz @ 4.88
4 95.4% Spanish_Aragon + 4.6% Ethiopian_Wolayta @ 4.91
5 95.9% Spanish_Aragon + 4.1% Hadza @ 4.93
6 95.3% Spanish_Aragon + 4.7% Somali @ 4.94
7 95.5% Spanish_Aragon + 4.5% Maasai @ 4.94
8 95.2% Spanish_Aragon + 4.8% Ethiopian_Oromo @ 4.96
9 95.7% Spanish_Aragon + 4.3% Sandawe @ 5.04
10 96.2% Spanish_Aragon + 3.8% Ethiopian_Anuak @ 5.11
11 95.2% Spanish_Aragon + 4.8% Ethiopian_Amhara @ 5.11
12 95.2% Spanish_Aragon + 4.8% Ethiopian_Tigray @ 5.18
13 96.4% Spanish_Aragon + 3.6% Sudanese @ 5.2
14 90.7% Spanish_Aragon + 9.3% La_Brana-1 @ 5.23
15 64.3% Spanish_Murcia + 35.7% French_Basque @ 5.39
16 96.9% Spanish_Aragon + 3.1% San @ 5.41
17 94.4% Southwest_French + 5.6% Ethiopian_Oromo @ 5.48
18 93.9% Southwest_French + 6.1% Ethiopian_Amhara @ 5.48
19 93.3% Spanish_Aragon + 6.7% Lithuanian @ 5.49
20 94.6% Southwest_French + 5.4% Ethiopian_Wolayta @ 5.49



# Population Percent
1 Neolithic 40.87
2 WHG 27.64
3 EHG 18.75
4 Basal 7.86
5 African 4.49
6 Amerindian 0.32
7 Siberian 0.07




# Population Percent
1 South_and_West_European 46.61
2 North_and_East_European 29.52
3 Middle_East 12.84
4 Caucaus_Parsia 5.56
5 Sub_Saharian 3.12
6 Indian 1.45
7 Paleo_African 0.91

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Swiss 7.08
2 Montenegrin 7.58
3 Macedonian 7.98
4 Serbian 8.13
5 Provancal 8.33
6 Italian_North 8.98
7 Bulgarian 9.07
8 Portugese 9.41
9 German-South 9.94
10 Bosnian 10.57
11 French 10.89
12 Croatian 11.54
13 Romania 11.65
14 Gagauz 11.75
15 Iberian 11.91
16 Austrian 12.56
17 Spaniard 12.59
18 Hungarian 12.66
19 Italian-North 13.05
20 Slovenian 13.78

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 83.3% Portugese + 16.7% Finnish-North @ 2.99
2 59.4% Ukrainian-Center + 40.6% Otzi @ 3.18
3 61.2% Ukrainian_V + 38.8% Otzi @ 3.21
4 82.9% Portugese + 17.1% Vepsa @ 3.24
5 82.6% German-South + 17.4% Mozabite @ 3.26
6 69.5% Croatian_V + 30.5% Otzi @ 3.27
7 62% Ukrainian-West + 38% Otzi @ 3.3
8 81.8% Portugese + 18.2% Finnish-South @ 3.34
9 57.7% Ukrainian-East + 42.3% Otzi @ 3.42
10 86.7% Portugese + 13.3% Saami @ 3.5
11 81.9% Portugese + 18.1% Karelian @ 3.53
12 80.8% Portugese + 19.2% Finnish @ 3.54
13 77.2% Portugese + 22.8% Moldavian @ 3.54
14 79.3% Portugese + 20.7% Russian_North @ 3.59
15 68.9% Portugese + 31.1% Latvian_V @ 3.59
16 56.7% Russian_South + 43.3% Otzi @ 3.73
17 62.7% Portugese + 37.3% Croatian_V @ 3.74
18 87.8% French + 12.2% Jew_Ethiopia @ 3.77
19 83.9% German-South + 16.1% Moroccan @ 3.77
20 77.4% Portugese + 22.6% Mordovian @ 3.78




# Population Percent
1 Atlantic_Baltic 60
2 Southern 27.03
3 West_Asian 8.59
4 African 3.71
5 East_Asian 0.63
6 Siberian 0.03

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Extremadura (1000Genomes) 3.41
2 Portuguese (Dodecad) 3.88
3 Galicia (1000Genomes) 4.19
4 Spaniards (Behar) 4.52
5 Baleares (1000Genomes) 4.53
6 Andalucia (1000Genomes) 4.81
7 Murcia (1000Genomes) 5.1
8 Spanish (Dodecad) 5.45
9 Castilla_Y_Leon (1000Genomes) 5.46
10 Castilla_La_Mancha (1000Genomes) 5.65
11 Valencia (1000Genomes) 6.24
12 Cataluna (1000Genomes) 6.61
13 Cantabria (1000Genomes) 7.52
14 Aragon (1000Genomes) 7.54
15 Canarias (1000Genomes) 7.9
16 North_Italian (HGDP) 8.41
17 N_Italian (Dodecad) 8.85
18 French (Dodecad) 12.02
19 French (HGDP) 12.18
20 Romanians (Behar) 14.02

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 81.3% French (HGDP) + 18.7% Mozabite (HGDP) @ 0.86
2 78% French (HGDP) + 22% Moroccan (Dodecad) @ 0.99
3 81.3% French (HGDP) + 18.7% Moroccans (Behar) @ 1
4 75.5% Canarias (1000Genomes) + 24.5% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) @ 1.13
5 67.5% Canarias (1000Genomes) + 32.5% Hungarians (Behar) @ 1.28
6 78.7% French (HGDP) + 21.3% Algerian (Dodecad) @ 1.29
7 76.3% Canarias (1000Genomes) + 23.7% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) @ 1.29
8 78.7% Canarias (1000Genomes) + 21.3% Russian_B (Behar) @ 1.57
9 77.4% Canarias (1000Genomes) + 22.6% Polish (Dodecad) @ 1.59
10 73.6% Canarias (1000Genomes) + 26.4% Dutch (Dodecad) @ 1.64
11 78.9% Canarias (1000Genomes) + 21.1% Russian (Dodecad) @ 1.67
12 72.5% Canarias (1000Genomes) + 27.5% German (Dodecad) @ 1.68
13 96.2% Spaniards (Behar) + 3.8% Sandawe (Henn) @ 1.71
14 96.8% Spaniards (Behar) + 3.2% LWK30 (Behar) @ 1.72
15 96.9% Spaniards (Behar) + 3.1% Bantu_N.E. (HGDP) @ 1.72
16 96.9% Spaniards (Behar) + 3.1% Bantu_S.W._Herero (HGDP) @ 1.73
17 96.9% Spaniards (Behar) + 3.1% Bantu_S.E._Tswana (HGDP) @ 1.74
18 96.9% Spaniards (Behar) + 3.1% Mandenka (HGDP) @ 1.74
19 97% Spaniards (Behar) + 3% Yoruba (HGDP) @ 1.74
20 97% Spaniards (Behar) + 3% YRI30 (HGDP) @ 1.74


When someone asks about your ethnic background, what's your answer?

[Joso]

When someone asks about your ethnic background, what's your answer?

He probably don't anwer, it is complicated

[Hadouken]

Hes black

is he a proud black woman ?

[Joso]

is he a proud black woman ?

It seens yes, he have not more than 1% of SSA and still insists in puting "West African" as one of his permission groups :laugh:

[Sikeliot]

Oh and if that wasn't enough to see my grandmother's, here are a bunch of results for my mother on various sites and then my grandmother... I never said I was black I said I had a DISTANT amount of maternal SSA heritage which I happen to be proud of. I am obviously not black... but I can be proud of having an African ancestor. Now leave me the hell alone.

http://i67.tinypic.com/2psq9gx.jpg
http://i66.tinypic.com/qrbxb6.jpg
http://i68.tinypic.com/vhdzdf.jpg
http://i68.tinypic.com/2ev6b7a.jpg

23andme underestimates African.. this is what it gives my mother but that is the LOWEST estimate and it has to do with some of it being sucked into North African, Iberian (there are some Madeirans/Azoreans in their Iberian sample), etc.

http://i63.tinypic.com/2a939me.jpg


This is what Professor Doug McDonald gave me before he stopped analyzing random kits..


"Most likely fit is 98.1% (+- 0.6%) Europe (all Southern Europe)
and 1.9% (+- 0.6%) Africa (various subcontinents)

The following are possible population sets and their fractions,
most likely at the top
Italian= 0.984 Mandenka= 0.016
Italian= 0.984 Yoruba= 0.016
Italian= 0.984 Bantu Ke= 0.016
Italian= 0.985 Bantu So= 0.015
Italian= 0.976 Ethiopia= 0.024
Italian= 0.970 Ethiopia= 0.030
Italian= 0.971 Ethiopia= 0.029
Italian= 0.981 Maasai= 0.019
Italian= 0.987 Biaka Py= 0.013
Italian= 0.990 Mbuti Py= 0.010"

[Hadouken]

It seens yes, he have not more than 1% of SSA and still insists in puting "West African" as one of his permission groups :laugh:

but he has the right to write it since he does have ancestry from there through cape verde

[Sikeliot]

It seens yes, he have not more than 1% of SSA and still insists in puting "West African" as one of his permission groups :laugh:

It is still there so if I want it there I can have it. Before we all tested we all expected the amount to be much higher, my great grandmother I expected to be closer to 25% SSA not 10-12%.

I think you should retract your initial post and apologize to me.


When someone asks about your ethnic background, what's your answer?

Sicilian, Portuguese, Polish, Cape Verdean


Oh thanks for clarifying. It seens your grandmother was like 3,5% SSA on average in these GDmatchs, right?

If you add up all of the African categories (including Paleoafrican, Southern African, etc) and not just "West" it is closer to 5%.

[Joso]

Oh and if that wasn't enough to see my grandmother's, here are a bunch of results for my mother on various sites and then my grandmother... I never said I was black I said I had a DISTANT amount of maternal SSA heritage which I happen to be proud of. I am obviously not black... but I can be proud of having an African ancestor. Now leave me the hell alone.

http://i67.tinypic.com/2psq9gx.jpg
http://i66.tinypic.com/qrbxb6.jpg
http://i68.tinypic.com/vhdzdf.jpg
http://i68.tinypic.com/2ev6b7a.jpg

23andme underestimates African.. this is what it gives my mother but that is the LOWEST estimate and it has to do with some of it being sucked into North African, Iberian (there are some Madeirans/Azoreans in their Iberian sample), etc.

http://i63.tinypic.com/2a939me.jpg


This is what Professor Doug McDonald gave me before he stopped analyzing random kits..


"Most likely fit is 98.1% (+- 0.6%) Europe (all Southern Europe)
and 1.9% (+- 0.6%) Africa (various subcontinents)

The following are possible population sets and their fractions,
most likely at the top
Italian= 0.984 Mandenka= 0.016
Italian= 0.984 Yoruba= 0.016
Italian= 0.984 Bantu Ke= 0.016
Italian= 0.985 Bantu So= 0.015
Italian= 0.976 Ethiopia= 0.024
Italian= 0.970 Ethiopia= 0.030
Italian= 0.971 Ethiopia= 0.029
Italian= 0.981 Maasai= 0.019
Italian= 0.987 Biaka Py= 0.013
Italian= 0.990 Mbuti Py= 0.010"

Ok then, thanks for the answer. I didn't wanted to bother you, i just wanted to know. I never said you are black, it is the others here saying that.

[Joso]

but he has the right to write it since he does have ancestry from there through cape verde

Ok, i also probably have not more than 1% of amerindian( or maybe i even don't have) and i also had put it as a permission group before, so there is no problem

[Wadaad]

I imagine Sikeliot broadcasts his SSA admix because its so negligible it's 'cute and exotic, OMG'....but if it was substantial he wouldnt make such a big deal out of it.

[Hadouken]

Ok, i also probably have not more than 1% of amerindian( or maybe i even don't have) and i also had put it as a permission group before, so there is no problem

I am 1% ssa on gedmatch

[Joso]

I think you should retract your initial post and apologize to me.

Ok sorry. But i just asked a question, i like you, this is why asked directly to you when i asked for a temporary ban

[Sikeliot]

Ok then, thanks for the answer. I didn't wanted to bother you, i just wanted to know. I never said you are black, it is the others here saying that.

Also notice the consistency, it is always coming up in the Senegal/Sierra Leone area because -- guess what! -- Cape Verde is right next door and that is where the Africans brought there came from.

Anyway I usually identify more with my Sicilian side and with East Med type peoples, not as mixed/black/etc of course. I just say I have African ANCESTORS not that I am black. :lol: :rolleyes:

[Sikeliot]

I imagine Sikeliot broadcasts his SSA admix because its so negligible it's 'cute and exotic, OMG'....but if it was substantial he wouldnt make such a big deal out of it.

I expected it to be much higher as I said and in fact wish it was higher. I can be proud that it is there.

[Chaos One]

I expected it to be much higher as I said and in fact wish it was higher. I can be proud that it is there.

More like me when I saw I'm "only" 8% Central Asian. I understand you.

[Joso]

I expected it to be much higher as I said and in fact wish it was higher. I can be proud that it is there.

Yes, you should be proud, we all should be proud of our heritage. I wish i could do a DNA test but unfortunately companyes like 23AndMe don't works in Brazil...

[Sikeliot]

Yes, you should be proud, we all should be proud of our heritage. I wish i could do a DNA test but unfortunately companyes like 23AndMe don't works in Brazil...

Anyway I think I have proven successfully I do have West African ancestry (though distant -- 23andme predicts the ancestor around 1800), so I hope that answers everyone's questions.

[Hadouken]

Anyway I think I have proven successfully I do have West African ancestry (though distant -- 23andme predicts the ancestor around 1800), so I hope that answers everyone's questions.

you dont have to prove anything

[Sikeliot]

you dont have to prove anything

Well considering people love to find reasons to dislike me, yes I do. :lol:

[Hadouken]

Well considering people love to find reasons to dislike me, yes I do. :lol:

oh well thats nothing new here . people love to stir up shit

[Sikeliot]

oh well thats nothing new here . people love to stir up shit

I will also throw in there, the 23andme estimate of the African ancestor being late 1700s, early 1800s is consistent with my great grandmother having a full African great-grandparent, or the equivalent of one. Which is exactly what I have said.

[Isleño]

Oh and if that wasn't enough to see my grandmother's, here are a bunch of results for my mother on various sites and then my grandmother... I never said I was black I said I had a DISTANT amount of maternal SSA heritage which I happen to be proud of. I am obviously not black... but I can be proud of having an African ancestor. Now leave me the hell alone.




This is what Professor Doug McDonald gave me before he stopped analyzing random kits..


"Most likely fit is 98.1% (+- 0.6%) Europe (all Southern Europe)
and 1.9% (+- 0.6%) Africa (various subcontinents)

The following are possible population sets and their fractions,
most likely at the top
Italian= 0.984 Mandenka= 0.016
Italian= 0.984 Yoruba= 0.016
Italian= 0.984 Bantu Ke= 0.016
Italian= 0.985 Bantu So= 0.015
Italian= 0.976 Ethiopia= 0.024
Italian= 0.970 Ethiopia= 0.030
Italian= 0.971 Ethiopia= 0.029
Italian= 0.981 Maasai= 0.019
Italian= 0.987 Biaka Py= 0.013
Italian= 0.990 Mbuti Py= 0.010"
I believe Dr. McDonalds test to have been very accurate. According to your test on that one, you are around 1 and a half percent West African DNA. It’s so small, I wouldn’t really count that when speaking of ancestry. It’s reminiscent to me of white and black Americans that claim to be part Native American but are 1% on a DNA test. But if you feel like you want to include that in your ancestries (Cape Verdean) maybe it’s plausible since maybe the Cape Verdean ancestry in your grandparent was also mixed with Portuguese and the West Eurasian portion of that went into you European score. That would mean you probably have more Cape Verdean than maybe possibly the test shows. It’s really up to you, it’s your prerogative.

[Sikeliot]

I believe Dr. McDonalds test to have been very accurate. According to your test on that one, you are around 1 and a half percent West African DNA. It’s so small, I wouldn’t really count that when speaking of ancestry. It’s reminiscent to me of white and black Americans that claim to be part Native American but are 1% on a DNA test. But if you feel like you want to include that in your ancestries (Cape Verdean) maybe it’s plausible since maybe the Cape Verdean ancestry in your grandparent was also mixed with Portuguese and the West Eurasian portion of that went into you European score. That would mean you probably have more Cape Verdean than maybe possibly the test shows. It’s really up to you, it’s your prerogative.

Except for my grandmother I have no Iberian nor Cape Verdean ancestry so if you consider that my grandmother had 1/4 of Cape Verdean, then the African is clearly small. But because of how close I am to my grandmother, and that she has been a prominent part of my upbringing, anything she is mixed with, I count as a significant part of who I am.

[Sikeliot]

I believe Dr. McDonalds test to have been very accurate. According to your test on that one, you are around 1 and a half percent West African DNA. It’s so small, I wouldn’t really count that when speaking of ancestry. It’s reminiscent to me of white and black Americans that claim to be part Native American but are 1% on a DNA test. But if you feel like you want to include that in your ancestries (Cape Verdean) maybe it’s plausible since maybe the Cape Verdean ancestry in your grandparent was also mixed with Portuguese and the West Eurasian portion of that went into you European score. That would mean you probably have more Cape Verdean than maybe possibly the test shows. It’s really up to you, it’s your prerogative.


I also might as well show the chromosome paintings he gave. As you see my mother is clearly more African because closer to the source.. mine is first, hers second. McDonald could not analyze my grandmother because she is on the V5 chip.

http://i67.tinypic.com/nf0hlc.png



http://i64.tinypic.com/152c07s.png

[Isleño]

Except for my grandmother I have no Iberian nor Cape Verdean ancestry so if you consider that my grandmother had 1/4 of Cape Verdean, then the African is clearly small. But because of how close I am to my grandmother, and that she has been a prominent part of my upbringing, anything she is mixed with, I count as a significant part of who I am.
So you mean culturally because you are close to your grandmother? Was she culturally Cape Verdean at least partially that you may have grew up with? The family story is she is 1/4 Cape Verdean? Well you know DNA is random, you could get 25% of the Cape Verdean, or you could get more of it or little of it. DNA is just so random, you know. Do you have any idea the possible mixture percentages of West Eurasian and Sub-Saharan of the Cape Verdean your grandmother is mixed with? It’s a big difference if the Cape Verdean ancestor was mulatto or more close to being black. Your percentage of West African would be related to that. Let’s say the Cape Verdean was mulatto type, you could be 3% Cape Verdean. But if you are of black Cap Verdean, it could be closer to the 1 and a half percent, maybe like 2%.

[Sikeliot]

So you mean culturally because you are close to your grandmother? Was she culturally Cape Verdean at least partially that you may have grew up with? The family story is she is 1/4 Cape Verdean? Well you know DNA is random, you could get 25% of the Cape Verdean, or you could get more of it or little of it. DNA is just so random, you know. Do you have any idea the possible mixture percentages of West Eurasian and Sub-Saharan of the Cape Verdean your grandmother is mixed with? It’s a big difference if the Cape Verdean ancestor was mulatto or more close to being black. Your percentage of West African would be related to that. Let’s say the Cape Verdean was mulatto type, you could be 3% Cape Verdean. But if you are of black Cap Verdean, it could be closer to the 1 and a half percent, maybe like 2%.

My great grandmother seems to have been close to 1/8 SSA which would have made the Cape Verdean side close to 1/4, which is not rare for the island the ancestry is said to come from (Brava).

[Isleño]

My great grandmother seems to have been close to 1/8 SSA which would have made the Cape Verdean side close to 1/4, which is not rare for the island the ancestry is said to come from (Brava).

Okay, with random DNA aside and just being hypothetical, if your great grandmother was 1/4 Cape Verdean, then maybe you are around 3% Cape Verdean. I think that’s enough to mention. Maybe not something you throw out there right off, but maybe something to mention when talking about DNA.

[Sikeliot]

Okay, with random DNA aside and just being hypothetical, if your great grandmother was 1/4 Cape Verdean, then maybe you are around 3% Cape Verdean. I think that’s enough to mention. Maybe not something you throw out there right off, but maybe something to mention when talking about DNA.

Cape Verdean is just a mixture of Portuguese and African. I don't think you can be genetically Cape Verdean, the same way one cannot be genetically American.

[Isleño]

Cape Verdean is just a mixture of Portuguese and African. I don't think you can be genetically Cape Verdean, the same way one cannot be genetically American.

No, you can’t be genetically Cape Verdean because that is a mixed group, but you can mention that someone in your family was partially Cape Verdean as in descended from someone of that island group. I can’t be genetically Canarian, but I can say I descend from Canarians. It’s truly your choice whether to mention Cape Verdean among your heritage. You do have about 3%. Not large, but still there. It’s truly your choice.

[Sikeliot]

No, you can’t be genetically Cape Verdean because that is a mixed group, but you can mention that someone in your family was partially Cape Verdean as in descended from someone of that island group. I can’t be genetically Canarian, but I can say I descend from Canarians. It’s truly your choice whether to mention Cape Verdean among your heritage. You do have about 3%. Not large, but still there. It’s truly your choice.

The Cape Verdean is 1/16, this is the amount I identify as having.

[Isleño]

The Cape Verdean is 1/16, this is the amount I identify as having.

But I thought you said your great grandmother was 1/4. Then that would put you around 3% or 1/32 and your SSA percentage on point for a mulatto Cape Verdean ancestor.

Unless your grandmother is 1/4 and then you would be about 6% or 1/16. But your SSA would put the Cape Verdean as Quadroon if this was indeed the case.

Which is it?

[Heather Duval]

As a black woman, I dont see the big deal. Ive never been bothered about whatever Sikeliot claims to be. Im ok.

[Sikeliot]

But I thought you said your great grandmother was 1/4. Then that would put you around 3% or 1/32 and your SSA percentage on point for a mulatto Cape Verdean ancestor.

Unless your grandmother is 1/4 and then you would be about 6% or 1/16. But your SSA would put the Cape Verdean as Quadroon if this was indeed the case.

Which is it?

1/4 of 1/4, is 1/16. I am indeed estimating a 1/4 African Cape Verdean ancestor.

[Joso]

As a black woman, I dont see the big deal. Ive never been bothered about whatever Sikeliot claims to be. Im ok.

There is no deal, it was just a question

[Joso]

I am 1% ssa on gedmatch

But do you think it is real?

[Hadouken]

But do you think it is real?

yes . it probably has to do with me being haplogroup E

[Joso]

yes . it probably has to do with me being haplogroup E

Can you explain better? Sorry but i am still not so good on these genetic things

[Hadouken]

Can you explain better? Sorry but i am still not so good on these genetic things

haplogroup E comes originally from africa . I dont know much about haplogroups either . but it is just a small part of our dna anyway

[Joso]

haplogroup E comes originally from africa . I dont know much about haplogroups either . but it is just a small part of our dna anyway

But is not the hablogroup E otiginally from North Africa or East Africa?

[Smeagol]

Haplogroup E probably originated in the Middle East.

[Joso]

Haplogroup E probably originated in the Middle East.

I've heard this hablogroup oroginated in East Africa and that this hablogroup is common among North African jews. People believed that Hitler was part jew because he had this hablogroup

[Smeagol]

I've heard this hablogroup oroginated in East Africa and that this hablogroup is common among North African jews. People believed that Hitler was part jew because he had this hablogroup

No, it originated in the Middle East according to the latest studies.

It's present in about 10% of ethnic Germans although Hitler's ancestry on his father's side is not really clear.

[Hadouken]

I thought the starting point was central africa though

[Smeagol]

Haplogroup E in Africa is a result of Eurasian back-migration:
It remained mysterious that how many times the anatomically modern human migrated out of Africa, since that among the three superhaplogrous C, DE and F, Haplogroup F distributes in whole Eurasia, C in Asia and Austronesia, D exclusively in Asia, while D's brother clade E distribute mainly in Africa, so there are two hypotheses, 1) haplogroups D and CF migrated out of Africa separately; 2) the single common ancestor of CF and DE migrated out of Africa followed by a back-migration of E to Africa. From this study, the short interval between CF/DE and C/F divergences weakens the possibility of multiple independent migrations (CF, D, and DE*) out of Africa, and thus supports the latter hypothesis (Fig. S2 a).
https://arxiv.org/abs/1310.3897

[Joso]

I thought the starting point was central africa though

The starting point of what?

[Hadouken]

The starting point of what?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1VH3YSpklA

[Smitty]

As a black woman

Do pigs fly in Brazil?

[Joso]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1VH3YSpklA

Do you mean the starting point of all hablogroups?

[Hadouken]

Do you mean the starting point of all hablogroups?

no . but E

but I dont know really

[Heather Duval]

Do pigs fly in Brazil?

Dicks fly in my pussy
#Pussyissaprivilege

[Joso]

no . but E

but I dont know really

I think East Africa is most likely but as our friend Smeagol showed, it probably originated in the middle east

[Congolese Rice]

haplogroup E comes originally from africa . I dont know much about haplogroups either . but it is just a small part of our dna anyway

Eeeehee, nelson MANDELAA


mDNA haplogroup: L1'2'3'4'5'6

Haplogroup: Haplogroup L1, sister group of Haplogroup L2-L6, subclade of Haplogroup L1-L6
Age: 107,600 – 174,300 Years Ago
Region: Middle Africa
Distribution: Middle Africa and West Africa
Population: Pygmy and Baka
People in this haplogroup:

Nelson Mandela


i am the realest nigga to ever exist XDDD

[Joso]

Eeeehee, nelson MANDELAA


mDNA haplogroup: L1'2'3'4'5'6

Haplogroup: Haplogroup L1, sister group of Haplogroup L2-L6, subclade of Haplogroup L1-L6
Age: 107,600 – 174,300 Years Ago
Region: Middle Africa
Distribution: Middle Africa and West Africa
Population: Pygmy and Baka
People in this haplogroup:

Nelson Mandela


i am the realest nigga to ever exist XDDD

WTF are you talking?

[Congolese Rice]

WTF are you talking?

dont u see what im saying mothafucka? its my wegene mDNA haplogroup lmao.

[Isleño]

1/4 of 1/4, is 1/16. I am indeed estimating a 1/4 African Cape Verdean ancestor.

Who was 1/4 Cape Verdean, your great grandmother or your grandmother?

[Congolese Rice]

eh, i dont think 1/16th african ancestry is even worth being busy with. if it was 10% or more i could understand but 1% or less, nah son.

[Isleño]

eh, i dont think 1/16th african ancestry is even worth being busy with. if it was 10% or more i could understand but 1% or less, nah son.
From his McDonald results, about he’s 1.5% black African (Sub-Saharan). I just checked the comments and he said his grandma was 1/4 or around 25% Cape Verdean. That would make him 1/16 Cape Verdean (which according to his Sub-Saharan DNA, his full blooded Cape Verdean ancestor was a quadroon OR he didn’t get much of the Cape Verdean ancestry and received only half of what he should have gotten so his body would only possess 3% Cape Verdean instead of 6%. (DNA is random, you don’t always get what you are “supposed” to get).

These are the two possibilities, basically.

[Isleño]

..

[Isleño]

From his McDonald results, he’s about 1.5% black African (Sub-Saharan). I just checked the comments and he said his grandma was 1/4 or around 25% Cape Verdean. That would make him 1/16 Cape Verdean (which according to his Sub-Saharan DNA, his full blooded Cape Verdean ancestor was a quadroon OR he didn’t get much of the Cape Verdean ancestry and received only half of what he should have gotten so his body would only possess 3% Cape Verdean instead of 6%. (DNA is random, you don’t always get what you are “supposed” to get). Which would then make the ancestor mulatto.

These are the two possibilities, basically.

[Isleño]

Cape Verdean is just a mixture of Portuguese and African. I don't think you can be genetically Cape Verdean, the same way one cannot be genetically American.
From what your DNA says and what you’ve given us about your grandparent(s) I’d say your full blooded Cape Verdean ancestor was a quadroon. Likely 3/4 Portuguese and 1/4 SSA. So in other words, your great grandma that was half Portuguese/half Cape Verdean would be equivalent to a person that was 87.5% Portuguese and 12.5% Sub-Saharan West African. And your grandma around 94% Portuguese and 6% Sub-Saharan West African which would give your mom 3% SSA and you your 1.5% SSA on McDonalds test.

[Congolese Rice]

From his McDonald results, about he’s 1.5% black African (Sub-Saharan). I just checked the comments and he said his grandma was 1/4 or around 25% Cape Verdean. That would make him 1/16 Cape Verdean (which according to his Sub-Saharan DNA, his full blooded Cape Verdean ancestor was a mulatto OR he didn’t get much of the Cape Verdean ancestry and received only half of what he should have gotten so his body would only possess 3% Cape Verdean instead of 6%. (DNA is random, you don’t always get what you are “supposed” to get).

These are the two possibilities, basically.


That's true, i do agree with you on the fact that DNA is very randomly inherited. just like the fact i should inherit 12.5% dutch from my mom's side but in all actually i am 53-57% european XD so either i inherited less european from my mom's side or my dad's side is less than 100% euro, they could be 94% euro for all i know. but not much less since i probably only inherit 3% berber from their side, or even 2%.

[Sikeliot]

From what your DNA says and what you’ve given us about your grandparent(s) I’d say your full blooded Cape Verdean ancestor was a quadroon. Likely 3/4 Portuguese and 1/4 SSA. So in other words, your great grandma that was half Portuguese/half Cape Verdean would be equivalent to a person that was 87.5% Portuguese and 12.5% Sub-Saharan West African. And your grandma around 94% Portuguese and 6% Sub-Saharan West African which would give your mom 3% SSA and you your 1.5% SSA on McDonalds test.

This is exactly what I have been saying -- my great grandmother (who I have posted photos of here) seems to have been 1/8 Sub-Saharan and 7/8 Portuguese. This is why although she doesn't look SSA in her face she is "off white" if you will.

[Congolese Rice]

This is exactly what I have been saying -- my great grandmother (who I have posted photos of here) seems to have been 1/8 Sub-Saharan and 7/8 Portuguese. This is why although she doesn't look SSA in her face she is "off white" if you will.

ok sure, you are 2% black, cool i guess xd. i guess you could claim having a cape verdian admixed great grandmother, but not being part black yourself imo. ive seen some americans and such with 1 or 2% SSA, its basically nothing but veryyy old ancestry from there.

that means like 8 generations back one of yo ancestors was 96% SSA r something

[Joso]

ok sure, you are 2% black, cool i guess xd. i guess you could claim having a cape verdian admixed great grandmother, but not being part black yourself imo. ive seen some americans and such with 1 or 2% SSA, its basically nothing but veryyy old ancestry from there.

that means like 8 generations back one of yo ancestors was 96% SSA r something

Ok, leave him alone now pls, he already gave the answers.

[Sikeliot]

ok sure, you are 2% black, cool i guess xd. i guess you could claim having a cape verdian admixed great grandmother, but not being part black yourself imo. ive seen some americans and such with 1 or 2% SSA, its basically nothing but veryyy old ancestry from there.

that means like 8 generations back one of yo ancestors was 96% SSA r something

I don't claim to be mixed, I say (if asked about my ancestry) when I get around to that side, "My great grandmother was a mixture of Portuguese and African" which is true.

[gadele]

I expected it to be much higher as I said and in fact wish it was higher. I can be proud that it is there.

I fully agree with you Sikeliot. Ancestry is much more than genetic admixture. Ancestry goes beyond that. You can have ancestors your are proud of and you and your offsprings could continue celebrating that no matter that admixture would not contain any piece of it anymore. We normally can carry genetic admixture till 7 generations back, in theory.

- Ethnicity is more related to phenotype and culture and can change very rapidly in one or two generations depending on admixture of course and changing the environment.
- Genetic admixture it changing from generation to generation and has a 5 to 7th generations span approximately. It will depend on how much of certain genes is passed down to next generations and assuming there is almost no inner breed.
- Ancestry is forever whether your acknowledge it or not.

By the way these 3 points are interesting for further discussions. :thumb001:

[Latinus]

His hair is straight as an arrow, he likely have more chance to have amerindian than SSA, he may be a hidden Mexican illegal immigrant....

Yes, his hair is very straight and thick, typical for Amerindians/Mongoloids. But some white people also have that hair texture.
Mine is the wavy hair variety closer to straight.

[Joso]

Yes, his hair is very straight and thick, typical for Amerindians/Mongoloids. But some white people also have that hair texture.
Mine is the wavy hair variety closer to straight.

I have relatively thick and wavy hair, i think it is the typical alpinid hair

[Bobby Martnen]

I will also throw in there, the 23andme estimate of the African ancestor being late 1700s, early 1800s is consistent with my great grandmother having a full African great-grandparent, or the equivalent of one. Which is exactly what I have said.

Judging by your grandma's results (i.e. scoring about 5% African instead of 6-7%), it's more likely your great-grandmother had a great-grandparent who was about 75-80% African, not full.

[Sikeliot]

Judging by your grandma's results (i.e. scoring about 5% African instead of 6-7%), it's more likely your great-grandmother had a great-grandparent who was about 75-80% African, not full.

Unless a percentage was lost due to recombination of genes. Either way people around 80 percent SSA are rare in Cape Verde so I'm unsure. I suspected an African born ancestor a few generations back from Senegambia brought to Cape Verde.

[Joso]

Unless a percentage was lost due to recombination of genes. Either way people around 80 percent SSA are rare in Cape Verde so I'm unsure. I suspected an African born ancestor a few generations back from Senegambia brought to Cape Verde.

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