Do you users agree with me?

[AphroditeWorshiper]

Observation: This is just what I have read on all my years on TA and some Internet articles :p

Light skin: EHG and CHG(who probably get from ANE), who came to Europe via Anatolian farmers and Uralic in Northeast

Light hair(blonde): EHG and maybe CHG too

Red Hair: All Hunter Gatherers(probably from Neanderthals)

Light eyes: All Hunter Gutherers in Europe

Curly Hair: WHG, that's why Northwest Celts had high incidence of Curls like Irish and Scottish

Straight Hair: EHG and CHG(probably via ANE). Asian?

[AphroditeWorshiper]

I forget, and Indo Europeans obviously: ANE/CHG/Neolithic farmers

[Teutonski]

If I would know what you talking about maybe

[Bobby Martnen]

I don't believe in all this prehistoric crap.

[AphroditeWorshiper]

If I would know what you talking about maybe

lol ok

CHG: Caucasus Hunte gatherer

EHG: Eastern Hunter Gatherer

ANE: Ancient North Eurasian

[AphroditeWorshiper]

I don't believe in all this prehistoric crap.

it's just my observation man :icon_yes:

[Teutonski]

lol ok

CHG: Caucasus Hunte gatherer

EHG: Eastern Hunter Gatherer

ANE: Ancient North Eurasian

still no clue

[Livin]

Observation: This is just what I have read on all my years on TA and some Internet articles :p

Light skin: EHG and CHG(who probably get from ANE), who came to Europe via Anatolian farmers and Uralic in Northeast

Light hair(blonde): EHG and maybe CHG too

Red Hair: All Hunter Gatherers(probably from Neanderthals)

Light eyes: All Hunter Gutherers in Europe

Curly Hair: WHG, that's why Northwest Celts had high incidence of Curls like Irish and Scottish

Straight Hair: EHG and CHG(probably via ANE). Asian?

Basal Eurasians=Armenoid,Arabids,Orientalids.


Natufians=Med


Red Hair=R1b(steppe)


ANE=LIGHT SIBERIANS?

[AphroditeWorshiper]

basically Blonde hair and light skin came from East(Russia/Finno Ugric/Caucasus), Light eyes it's indigenous and red hair it's neanderthal

[AphroditeWorshiper]

Basal Eurasians=Armenoid,Arabids,Orientalids.


Natufians=Med


Red Hair=R1b(steppe)


ANE=LIGHT SIBERIANS?

Basal Eurasian = Mulatto or some proto Afro Asiatic

Natufians = Bedouins/Egyptian like

Red hair = Neanderthal mix

ANE= dark Asiatic, but some maybe had light features

[cyberlorian]

Basal Eurasians=Armenoid,Arabids,Orientalids.


Natufians=Med


Red Hair=R1b(steppe)


ANE=LIGHT SIBERIANS?

Hunter Gatherers = ?

[Livin]

Basal Eurasian = Mulatto or some proto Afro Asiatic

Natufians = Bedouins/Egyptian like

Red hair = Neanderthal mix

ANE= dark Asiatic, but some maybe had light features

Basal Eurasian is still unknown but i think it has to do with j2 and j1 people.

Red hair didn't come from steppe(indoeuropeans)? CELTO-GERMANS?

[HELLBANIAN]

Some hunter gatherers in Europe had dark skin according to predictions , the ones found in Romania had brown eyes and dark skin. And in Britain it had dark skin and blue eyes.

It is also silly to believe that all light eyes in Europe came from a single population. Or any pigmentational element , for that matter. Such as blondism solely coming from the Steppes when some Hunter Gatherers in Scandinavia seemed to of been light skinned with blonde hair. Steppe people were also probably originally darker than even modern Europeans of the South.

[AphroditeWorshiper]

Hunter Gatherers = ?

veryyyy diverse people, and they was a very small population

WHG = Dark skin and light eyes. maybe some with EHG or SHG mixed was different. and Curly hair too

SHG = WHG/EHG mixed, dark and light eyes, Light skin and Asiatic eyes( maybe some)

EHG = Blondes with light eyes, and Asiatic features

CHG = Light skin and Dark/brown hair, maybe some was lighter

[Livin]

Hunter Gatherers = ?

:confused:


79749

[AphroditeWorshiper]

Some hunter gatherers in Europe had dark skin according to predictions , the ones found in Romania had brown eyes and dark skin. And in Britain it had dark skin and blue eyes.

It is also silly to believe that all light eyes in Europe came from a single population. Or any pigmentational element , for that matter. Such as blondism solely coming from the Steppes when some Hunter Gatherers in Scandinavia seemed to of been light skinned with blonde hair. Steppe people were also probably originally darker than even modern Europeans of the South.

maybe form East

because, The region of Northeast and East was colder, and light eyes don't is a cold adaptation? also Britain and North France was covered by ice

[Richmondbread]

We are all descended from Noah.

[cyberlorian]

:confused:


79749

Looks Semitic.

[Livin]

You forgot ENA btw.

[AphroditeWorshiper]

Basal Eurasian is still unknown but i think it has to do with j2 and j1 people.

Red hair didn't come from steppe(indoeuropeans)? CELTO-GERMANS?

Hunter Gatherers had Red hair Alleles

[AphroditeWorshiper]

We are all descended from Noah.

I'm Pagan :tongue

[AphroditeWorshiper]

You forgot ENA btw.

what is that? :eek:

[Livin]

Looks Semitic.

North Eurasian=Sami-Uralic
West Eurasian=Iberian-Sardinian :yawnee20::yawnee20::yawnee20::yawnee20::yawnee20:

[Livin]

what is that? :eek:


I got no idea!We need a time machine i guess.


79750

[cyberlorian]

North Eurasian=Sami-Uralic
West Eurasian=Iberian-Sardinian :yawnee20::yawnee20::yawnee20::yawnee20::yawnee20:

Oh my god. I am sorry. I mean Sami. Not Semitic.

In Turkish, Semitic equals Semitik or Sami.

I had some confusion. :D

[Richmondbread]

I'm Pagan :tongue

That doesn't change truth.

[Mr. Anybody]

this is what ı know

celts had been occured in west asia.not in eu.in fact none of europeans has been occured in eu(exc I)

curly hair is exactly european trait.not associated to african negro frizzyes.

how and where red hair and rhesus - genes occured is dont enlightened.

light skin alels had carried by farmers.

blue eyes mutation occured in blacksea 10000 agı.(all blue eyed humans tracking to same ancestor who lived in blacksea 10000 - 8000 ago)

blondism is mongoloid trait and carried to eu with north east asians.

after mixing and natural selections,todays europeans had occured.

natural selection have a big role.and ice age(harsh climate)

edit:

aryans dont liked that. :D

[Livin]

Oh my god. I am sorry. I mean Sami. Not Semitic.

In Turkish, Semitic equals Semitik or Sami.

I had some confusion. :D


It seems ANE were blonde mongols.... ;)

[cyberlorian]

It seems ANE were blonde mongols.... ;)

Yes. I think they had heavily mixed with prior natives of Central Asia.

[AphroditeWorshiper]

Sami people are basically almost purest SHG

[Livin]

Yes. I think they had heavily mixed with prior natives of Central Asia.

So i guess its normal when we see some pseudo-mongol looks on modern europeans right?

[cyberlorian]

So i guess its normal when we see some pseudo-mongol looks on modern europeans right?

Yes. I think, Turanid is the result of mix. What do you think?

[AphroditeWorshiper]

So i guess its normal when we see some pseudo-mongol looks on modern europeans right?

NorthEast Europe had no genetic barriers in Mesolithic I guess

[Livin]

Yes. I think, Turanid is the result of mix. What do you think?


Looks a mix between Cro-Magnon(Hunter-Guthener) and ANE.:confused:

[cyberlorian]

Looks a mix between Cro-Magnon(Hunter-Guthener) and ANE.:confused:

Most probably.

[cyberlorian]

Looks a mix between Cro-Magnon(Hunter-Guthener) and ANE.:confused:

Did Orientalid formed as a mixture of Cro Magnons and Basal Eurasians? What do you think?

[cyberlorian]

Looks a mix between Cro-Magnon(Hunter-Guthener) and ANE.:confused:

Or, did Orientalid just evolved from Basal Eurasians?

[Livin]

Did Orientalid formed as a mixture of Cro Magnons and Basal Eurasians? What do you think?

I think basal eurasians were j2 and j1(semitic) people,but i am not sure.

Orientalid looks very weird phenotype,i got no idea how it formed...

[AphroditeWorshiper]

Or, did Orientalid just evolved from Basal Eurasians?

Orientalid = pseudoscience

if you mean Arabic/semitic, they are a mix of Natufians and CHG

if you mean Iranians, they are amix of CHG,Anatolian farmers and south Asian

[AphroditeWorshiper]

I think basal eurasians were j2 and j1(semitic) people,but i am not sure.

Orientalid looks very weird phenotype,i got no idea how it formed...

Basal Eurasian was probably E1b1b or some weird haplogroup

J1 and J2 came from CHG

Semitic it's originally E1b1b

[Livin]

Orientalid = pseudoscience

if you mean Arabic/semitic, they are a mix of Natufians and CHG

if you mean Iranians, they are amix of CHG,Anatolian farmers and south Asian

Natufians with hooked noses and full lips?

I think natufians were like modern south europeans.....

[AphroditeWorshiper]

Natufians with hooked noses and full lips?

I think natufians were like modern south europeans.....

they probably looked like East African/North African

they had ydna E1b1b and even some African Mtdna like L2 and L3

also on autosomal they get closer to Bedouins and North Africans

[cyberlorian]

I think basal eurasians were j2 and j1(semitic) people,but i am not sure.

Orientalid looks very weird phenotype,i got no idea how it formed...

Orientalid is considered as a deset adapted Mediterranid type by some scholars. However, Orientalid is interestingly in a Nordiform. Both Orientalid and Nordid has more sloping forehead but Mediterranid forehead is vertical. Mediterranid has smaller eye sockets but Nordid and Orientalid have larger eye socket.

[Livin]

Basal Eurasian was probably E1b1b or some weird haplogroup

J1 and J2 came from CHG

Semitic it's originally E1b1b


Natufians were E1B1B.

Basal Eurasian is still a mystery.


But how arabs took the hooked noses?

Natufians were meds mostly...

[Tauromachos]

Natufians with hooked noses and full lips?

I think natufians were like modern south europeans.....

Natufians looked like Ice T

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIJ-PAw7ymE

[AphroditeWorshiper]

Natufians with hooked noses and full lips?

I think natufians were like modern south europeans.....

hooked noses came from Caucasus/Anatolia. not sure about full lips

[AphroditeWorshiper]

Natufians were E1B1B.

Basal Eurasian is still a mystery.


But how arabs took the hooked noses?

Natufians were meds mostly...

No man lol

Med it's just a Whg/Anatolian farmer mix

Natufian was too old and African like

the genetics show this

[Livin]

hooked noses came from Caucasus/Anatolia. not sure about full lips

Arabs and semites have also hooked noses...!!!

Maybe because of J1 haplo...

[cyberlorian]

hooked noses came from Caucasus/Anatolia. not sure about full lips

My father might be mostly direct descendants of CHG people. :D

[Livin]

No man lol

Med it's just a Whg/Anatolian farmer mix

Natufian was too old and African like

the genetics show this


http://humanphenotypes.net/GracileMediterranid.html
http://humanphenotypes.net/Eurafricanid.html

Read plss.

[AphroditeWorshiper]

Arabs and semites have also hooked noses...!!!

Maybe because of J1 haplo...

yes!

J1 came from Zagros Mountains/Caucasus


it's hard to know how Arabs look like before the migration of J1s from the North

Sumerians are probably the most likely example(but they probably had some mix with those Caucasus migrants

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-nX4Ro0FxwBM/WBhRoXLBKnI/AAAAAAAAHog/fZaHy-JcxoAW1OsW4c_ANlO2XN1dshtNQCLcB/s1600/476.png

[Livin]

http://humanphenotypes.net/GracileMediterranid.html
http://humanphenotypes.net/Eurafricanid.html

Read plss.


http://humanphenotypes.net/Eurafricanid.html
http://humanphenotypes.net/GracileMediterranid.html

Read

[cyberlorian]

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Are Central Asians mostly ANE + EHG?

[AphroditeWorshiper]

Are Central Asians mostly ANE + EHG?

well, they are very mixed

but Basically ANE + Iranian Neolithic, with some EHG and South Asian(very minor)

[cyberlorian]

well, they are very mixed

but Basically ANE + Iranian Neolithic, with some EHG and South Asian(very minor)

How did Iranian Neolithic looked like? Do you have any idea?

[AphroditeWorshiper]

How did Iranian Neolithic looked like? Do you have any idea?

I don' know lol

but they was high CHG

maybe like Georgians or Armenians

[cyberlorian]

I don' know lol

but they was high CHG

maybe like Georgians or Armenians

Why not like modern Iranians?

[Livin]

How did Iranian Neolithic looked like? Do you have any idea?

Proto-ARMENOID :)

[cyberlorian]

Proto-ARMENOID :)

Why not like Irano Afghan?

[AphroditeWorshiper]

Why not like modern Iranians?

because of the Andronovo/Indo Iranian admixture Iranians have nowadays

[Livin]

Why not like Irano Afghan?

Iranid=East meditteranid.

It must developed in steppe,or the east med mixed with neolithic iranians...

[cyberlorian]

because of the Andronovo/Indo Iranian admixture Iranians have nowadays

Do they have more Andronovo than Central Asian people? I ask, because I have always associated Andronovo more with Central Asians. :confused:

[AphroditeWorshiper]

Do they have more Andronovo than Central Asian people? I ask, because I have always associated Andronovo more with Central Asians. :confused:

of course, Central Asians have more

but they make a important impact on Iranians, mostly East Iranians and Persians