View Full Version : Cromagnoid cline. Is it correct?
cyberlorian
09-02-2018, 09:23 PM
Unreduced:
Dalofaelid
Brünn
Paleo Atlantid
Berid
Berberid
Partially reduced:
Borreby
Reduced:
Baltid
Gorid
Alpinid
Caucasian Alpinid
cyberlorian
09-02-2018, 09:40 PM
If I am incorrect, please correct me.
CommonSense
09-02-2018, 11:59 PM
You left out Brunn and Borreby
cyberlorian
09-03-2018, 12:01 AM
You left out Brunn and Borreby
I have added them but I am not sure whether I placed them in a correct order or not.
CommonSense
09-03-2018, 12:02 AM
I have added them but I am not sure whether I placed them in a correct order or not.
I don't think it's a bad list and I mostly agree with it, but Borreby for sure isn't reduced.
And Dinarid ?
Can't it pass as reduced at least ?
cyberlorian
09-03-2018, 01:34 AM
And Dinarid ?
Can't it pass as reduced at least ?
I guess Dinarid is intermediate between Alpinid and Oriental Mediterranid but closer to Alpinid.
Silver Lining
09-03-2018, 12:10 PM
You are mixing different systems. Borreby is UNREDUCED, according to Coon. And Brunn isn't truly Cromagnoid.
The Blade
09-03-2018, 12:58 PM
Unmixed:
Brunn
Dalofaelid
East Cromagnid
Borreby
Berberid
Altered:
Paleo Atlantid (Atlanto-Mediterranean admixture)
West Baltid (Central European brachycephalic input)
Tronder/Anglo-Saxon (influenced by Corded/Hallstatt)
Berid (Alpinid and Atlanto-Med admixture)
Strandid (Scandinavian brachy type with Alpinid admix)
Turanid (Mongoloid with East Cromagnid influence, the Andronovo variety contains more CM qualities, as well as influence from Pontids and Nordids)
I wouldn't use the reduced category.
Silver Lining
09-03-2018, 02:07 PM
Coon's Brunn examples don't look Cromagnoid. They look like very large and robust Meds/Nordids. He even states that they are "Cromagnon to some extent". UP Europeans weren't strictly Cromagnoid in the first place.
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