The portugueses : the most heterogeneous people in Europa ?

[Visage pâle]

I saw portugueses football players in their Liga. My conclusion is, it's a very heterogeneous people. There are many fair and dark skinned peoples, some are pale white like irish and others are very swarthy like arabs. I don't think there are such differences in others peoples.
It seems to be a iberian particularity, they are either fair skinned or swarthy; few have medium european skin tone. It's more pronounced in Portugal than in Spain imo.
Do you have the same impression than me ?

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

Portuguese people are actually one of the most homogeneous ethnic groups in Europe. There is little to no significant genetic variation within our borders, be it from the north, centre, south or the archipelagos.

There's phenotypical variation across the territory like anywhere else in Europe. In France you can also find darker and lighter types. The main difference in Portugal is that you can never pin point where someone's from based merely on its phenotype because phenotypical variations are evenly distributed across our territory (they do not peak in particular regions).

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

It seems to be a iberian particularity, they are either fair skinned or swarthy; few have medium european skin tone.

Medium skin tone is probably the most common around here. Don't forget that you are basing yourself on football players who have as their daily routine outdoor activities in a country that has one of the highest yearly averages for total hours of sunshine. Players with fairer skin are the ones who can not tan and the ones with darker skin are the ones who can tan, hence why you probably get the impression that there is no medium tone.

GWAS study of pigmentation in four European countries has shown that Portuguese are on pair with Poles in terms of skin pigmentation.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-N_4dAL4h8Og/UJfcaHVd_cI/AAAAAAAAHNI/KOVhAt3ppz0/s640/journal.pone.0048294.t001.png

[HELLBANIAN]

Most heterogeneous? Highly doubt it.

[FilhoV]

More like most Homogeneous

[Catarinense1998]

No way

[brennus dux gallorum]

pretty homogeneous I would say

[Rgvgjhvv]

Don't be fooled by Portuguese people of original Portuguese colony descent

[Rgvgjhvv]

GWAS study of pigmentation in four European countries has shown that Portuguese are on pair with Poles in terms of skin pigmentation.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-N_4dAL4h8Og/UJfcaHVd_cI/AAAAAAAAHNI/KOVhAt3ppz0/s640/journal.pone.0048294.t001.png

That is very interesting

[Sikeliot]

Portugal is very homogenous, the only difference in Portugal is a small amount (<5%) of Sub-Saharan in Madeira and Azores.

[Dekziiro]

North Caucasus.
Iceland.
Basque people.

[Visage pâle]

Medium skin tone is probably the most common around here.

I really doubt when i see their photos.


Don't forget that you are basing yourself on football players who have as their daily routine outdoor activities in a country that has one of the highest yearly averages for total hours of sunshine. Players with fairer skin are the ones who can not tan and the ones with darker skin are the ones who can tan, hence why you probably get the impression that there is no medium tone.

Sun has its impact, but many have natural olive skin tone.


GWAS study of pigmentation in four European countries has shown that Portuguese are on pair with Poles in terms of skin pigmentation.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-N_4dAL4h8Og/UJfcaHVd_cI/AAAAAAAAHNI/KOVhAt3ppz0/s640/journal.pone.0048294.t001.png

I would say the average between dark and fair skin is medium skin tone for portuguese. But i don't think medium european skin is the most frequent.

[Visage pâle]

Portugal is very homogenous, the only difference in Portugal is a small amount (<5%) of Sub-Saharan in Madeira and Azores.

Their phenotype is not. Believe me, some are very white and others very dark. In southern italy it's much more homogenous, most are a bit tanned or with medium european skin tone.

[Visage pâle]

There's phenotypical variation across the territory like anywhere else in Europe. In France you can also find darker and lighter types.

Not at the same scale. There are differences of hair and eyes colors, but skin color is overall the same from north to south.

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

What is a medium European skin tone then? Can you show me examples? I have already posted a study on it whereas you are just basing yourself on assumptions.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Sg18OPQjqk

Portuguese have darker hair and less prevalence of light eyes in comparison with Poles but when it comes to skin pigmentation it is virtually the same as you can see on the video above and once again on the table I have posted previously. So if Portugueses and Poles do not have a medium European skin tone, who does then?

Many southern Europeans have a natural olive skin tone, it is not exclusive to Portugal.

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

Not at the same scale. There are differences of hair and eyes colors, but skin color is overall the same from north to south.

There's virtually no skin colour variation across our territory. You can find darker and lighter types in any region.

[Visage pâle]

What is a medium European skin tone then? Can you show me examples?

A good exemple of that is Emmanuel Macron. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e3/Emmanuel_Macron_in_Tallinn_Digital_Summit._Welcome _dinner_hosted_by_HE_Donald_Tusk._Handshake_%28366 69381364%29_%28cropped_2%29.jpg

There is also Mel Gibson
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/58/Mel_Gibson_Cannes_2016.jpg

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

A good exemple of that is Emmanuel Macron. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e3/Emmanuel_Macron_in_Tallinn_Digital_Summit._Welcome _dinner_hosted_by_HE_Donald_Tusk._Handshake_%28366 69381364%29_%28cropped_2%29.jpg

There is also Mel Gibson
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/58/Mel_Gibson_Cannes_2016.jpg

Pretty common skin colour.

[Visage pâle]

Bump

[Latinus]

I doubt that any Euro country has a majority natural olive skinned population.

[Bobby Martnen]

Portugal is very homogenous, the only difference in Portugal is a small amount (<5%) of Sub-Saharan in Madeira and Azores.

So THAT'S why Steve Perry can sing so soulfully.

[Damião de Góis]

I saw portugueses football players in their Liga. My conclusion is, it's a very heterogeneous people. There are many fair and dark skinned peoples, some are pale white like irish and others are very swarthy like arabs. I don't think there are such differences in others peoples.
It seems to be a iberian particularity, they are either fair skinned or swarthy; few have medium european skin tone. It's more pronounced in Portugal than in Spain imo.
Do you have the same impression than me ?

Who are these very light and very dark football players you've seen? I'm curious, so post examples.

[alnortedelsur]

I previously showed plenty of videos and pics to prove that Iberians are not different from other Europeans in having a majority of people with a medium European skin tone. They only have a lesser frequency of blondish hair tones and light eyes compared to Europeans from further north, but more or less on par on this regard with other south European populations. And either way, blondish hair tones and light eyes are not rare among them, just like in anywhere else in Europe.

I already posted plenty of videos and pics to prove my point, but at this point I just give up. I just let ignorant people to keep being ignorant.

[cyberlorian]

I saw portugueses football players in their Liga. My conclusion is, it's a very heterogeneous people. There are many fair and dark skinned peoples, some are pale white like irish and others are very swarthy like arabs. I don't think there are such differences in others peoples.
It seems to be a iberian particularity, they are either fair skinned or swarthy; few have medium european skin tone. It's more pronounced in Portugal than in Spain imo.
Do you have the same impression than me ?

Portuguese are pretty homogeneous. I guess, French are the most heterogeneous people of Europe.