Classify Albanian from Montenegro (singer)

[Pribislav]

His name is Behlul Behluli, and he is from Gusinje https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gusinje

He live in Serbia and he changed name from Behlul Behluli in Beki Bekić.
https://www.svet.rs/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/beki-bekic-promo.jpg
https://static.kupindoslike.com/LP-BEKI-BEKIC-JOJ-STO-VOLIM-MUZIKU-NARODNU_slika_O_72949233.jpg

[Krivich]

:ranger

[CommonSense]

A very swarthy Balkan Borreby.

[Moje ime]

Dinaro-med

[Hulu]

Looks jugoslav to me

[Jackson78]

Maybe some Med-Dinaric mix. "Simpatičan" lik.

[Hadouken]

dinarogorid

[jmls]

Dinarid+Gorid+Med

[valentinavalley2]

He doesn’t look Albanian at all...


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[Jana]

Looks jugoslav to me

Yes, I agree. I know a Croat from Zagreb who looks almost identical to him.

[Xz2k9]

Serbian wiki says that he is Serbian and not Albanian.

Would never understand why an Albanian would change his name to Serbian and move to Serbia. Although some Albanians in Montenegro do have Slavic suffix on their surnames which was adopted later.

Gusinje is also inhabited by Serbs and Bosniaks, for exampel and not just Albanians.

[valentinavalley2]

Serbian wiki says that he is Serbian and not Albanian.

Would never understand why an Albanian would change his name to Serbian and move to Serbia. Although some Albanians in Montenegro do have Slavic suffix on their surnames which was adopted later.

Gusinje is also inhabited by Serbs and Bosniaks, for exampel and not just Albanians.

Well he looks nothing like an Albanian at all... maybe he has Albanian roots, but he doesn’t look it, at first I thought he was gypsy...


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[Xz2k9]

Even if this guy was Albanian originally, he is now a Serb that lives in Serbia and is married to a Serbian and his children will be Serbian. :D

[valentinavalley2]

Even if this guy was Albanian originally, he is now a Serb that lives in Serbia and is married to a Serbian and his children will be Serbian. :D

Lol I thought he was gypsy... he might be one of those gypsies with an Albanian name... lol Serbs can keep him.


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[Vožd]

Would never understand why an Albanian would change his name to Serbian and move to Serbia. Although some Albanians in Montenegro do have Slavic suffix on their surnames which was adopted later.

Typical Albanian butthurtness over nothing :D

[valentinavalley2]

Typical Albanian butthurtness over nothing :D

You Slavs can keep him, he might be a gypsy with an Albanian name, these things do exist, there are also gypsies with Serb names. Keep him.


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[Vožd]

Keep him.

Whatever that means :D

[WeirdLookingFellow]

You Slavs can keep him, he might be a gypsy with an Albanian name, these things do exist, there are also gypsies with Serb names. Keep him.


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He looks nothing like a Gypsy.

[valentinavalley2]

He looks nothing like a Gypsy.

Yeah he does


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[chociprasa]

Dinarid.

[Moje ime]

Looks like he has some MENA vibe, there is more obvious. Don't know is that Albanian or Gypsy.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dfO4dpKG9c

[Xz2k9]

Moje ime's boyfriend :D

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

Clearly not gipsy, lets be intellectually honest. I think he has a very generic phenotype for the region. Dinaro-Med, could be either Albanian or Serbian imo.

[Moje ime]

Clearly not gipsy, lets be intellectually honest. I think he has a very generic phenotype for the region. Dinaro-Med, could be either Albanian or Serbian imo.

Can't pass as Serbian and obviously he isn't Serbian since his original name is Albanian.

[21993]

Dinaro-Med

[21993]

looks like my father

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

Can't pass as Serbian and obviously he isn't Serbian since his original name is Albanian.

Out of curiosity what makes him not being able to pass in Serbia? Whenever I see photos of the Balkan war be it Croatians, Serbians, Bosnians or Kosovars I always see types that are similar from my perception.

[KrashNick]

Out of curiosity what makes him not being able to pass in Serbia? Whenever I see photos of the Balkan war be it Croatians, Serbians, Bosnians or Kosovars I always see types that are similar from my perception.

I honestly would guess him Serb before Albanian but I think he could pass everywhere in Balkan .

[Moje ime]

Out of curiosity what makes him not being able to pass in Serbia? Whenever I see photos of the Balkan war be it Croatians, Serbians, Bosnians or Kosovars I always see types that are similar from my perception.

He can't pass as Serb because he looks similar to Albanian politician Ramush Haradinaj.

You know, I wouldn't always be able to distinguish Spaniards/Portuguese from Spanish Gypsies or from North Africans but I would respect if you
would tell me who are who. What exactly is your problem with Serbs?

Also it is not really smart group all Balkan regions by look because it is diverse, by look and by genetics.

If you want to see common look of ordinary Serbs on quality videos, instead looking war photos from 90s recorded with 3 pixels with people in unnatural environment, it is better to look at weddings ceremonies or other celebrations. Those groups of people represent average look.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDQMy5mWqIc


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkAd7Dqzqtc


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btCO-pTFrQk


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sW_6xhpsG0


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jh0ZRUJ1SY


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXwmuaOa7Gs


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5EF0elx1Qo


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBg8oiPkWRA


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Bpy48fjpPQ

[Xz2k9]

Ramush Haradinaj looks more Albanian and different from this guy. While this guy looks more ambiguous within the Balkan aesthetic sphere.

Also I don't see how Viriato has automatically a problem with Serbs just for saying what he said.

[RenaRyuguu]

Ramush is even better than Serbs.

[farke1]

Dinarid + Alpine influence.

[Moje ime]

Ramush Haradinaj looks more Albanian and different from this guy. While this guy looks more ambiguous within the Balkan aesthetic sphere.

Also I don't see how Viriato has automatically a problem with Serbs just for saying what he said.

It's not his first time to say such provocative things.

Yes I agree this singer doesn't look completely as Haradinaj, different head shape etc, but he has a vibe that is Albanian. Eyes area.
He may be Gypsy mixed. But definitely nothing Serbian/Slavic.

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

He can't pass as Serb because he looks similar to Albanian politician Ramush Haradinaj.

You know, I wouldn't always be able to distinguish Spaniards/Portuguese from Spanish Gypsies or from North Africans but I would respect if you
would tell me who are who. What exactly is your problem with Serbs?

Also it is not really smart group all Balkan regions by look because it is diverse, by look and by genetics.

If you want to see common look of ordinary Serbs on quality videos, instead looking war photos from 90s recorded with 3 pixels with people in unnatural environment, it is better to look at weddings ceremonies or other celebrations. Those groups of people represent average look.

The fact that someone looks similar to an Albanian personality doesn't automatically exclude him or her to be able to pass in other regions. At least in my opinion.

Iberian gypsies usually have a very distintive look, I am not as familiar with Balkan gypsies but I think I have seen enough of them to know that this singer doesn't look like one.

Portuguese gypsies in their traditional clothing taken from a photographic work (they wear black clothing unlike the colorful Balkan gypsies attires):

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_10hWUiRSDVQ/TJ49kv2fcFI/AAAAAAAAITE/zA15Jw8o-Yw/s1600/cigano.jpg

http://blog.olhares.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/Pierre_Gonnord_01.jpg

Not to say that there aren't a few who couldn't pass unoticed too, this guy is half-Roma\half-Portuguese and it blends well in.

https://www.iol.pt/multimedia/oratvi/multimedia/imagem/id/5b59b4f00cf282952f034b23/

There are also North Africans who can pass in the Iberian peninsula, it always depends on the individual. Someone like Zinedine Zidane with evident dinaro-morphic traits would even fit better in the Balkan peninsula rather than Iberia, just to give you an example.

I am not grouping all Balkan regions into the same bag by saying that an individual can have a pan-Balkan look. I also don't have any problem with Serbians, if anything it is Albanians who could say that I have a problem with them due to what I have said in the past, lol. I only made you a question on why this guy can not pass in Serbia, a question which you kinda dodged by just saying that he is similar to a politician and therefore can not pass. From my perspective the singer and the politician ain't that strikingly different from Lazar Markovic.

[Xz2k9]

The fact that someone looks similar to an Albanian personality doesn't automatically exclude him or her to be able to pass in other regions. At least in my opinion.

Iberian gypsies usually have a very distintive look, I am not as familiar with Balkan gypsies but I think I have seen enough of them to know that this singer doesn't look like one.

Portuguese gypsies in their traditional clothing taken from a photographic work (they wear black clothing unlike the colorful Balkan gypsies attires):

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_10hWUiRSDVQ/TJ49kv2fcFI/AAAAAAAAITE/zA15Jw8o-Yw/s1600/cigano.jpg

http://blog.olhares.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/Pierre_Gonnord_01.jpg

Not to say that there aren't a few who couldn't pass unoticed too, this guy is half-Roma\half-Portuguese and it blends well in.

https://www.iol.pt/multimedia/oratvi/multimedia/imagem/id/5b59b4f00cf282952f034b23/

There are also North Africans who can pass in the Iberian peninsula, it always depends on the individual. Someone like Zinedine Zidane with evident dinaro-morphic traits would even fit better in the Balkan peninsula rather than Iberia, just to give you an example.

I am not grouping all Balkan regions into the same bag by saying that an individual can have a pan-Balkan look. I also don't have any problem with Serbians, if anything it is Albanians who could say that I have a problem with them due to what I have said in the past, lol. I only made you a question on why this guy can not pass in Serbia, a question which you kinda dodged by just saying that he is similar to a politician and therefore can not pass. From my perspective the singer and the politician ain't that strikingly different from Lazar Markovic.

What do you think about this guy though ?

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?303277-Classify-Serbian-Soldier

[CommonSense]

Scratch that first classification. I think he's Dinaric altered by some Alpine/CM, but unusually dark pigmented. He wouldn't look exotic if he wasn't so dark.

Also, lol at the butthurt coming from Albanians. How is a guy born as Behlul Behluli supposed to be a Serb and not one of you :lol:

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

What do you think about this guy though ?

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?303277-Classify-Serbian-Soldier

Resembles Dna8 kinda. Either Gorid or Pontid, I am more inclined to Gorid but I might be getting that impression because he is all swollen and beaten up.

[Xz2k9]

Scratch that first classification. I think he's Dinaric altered by some Alpine/CM, but unusually dark pigmented. He wouldn't look exotic if he wasn't so dark.

Also, lol at the butthurt coming from Albanians. How is a guy born as Behlul Behluli supposed to be a Serb and not one of you :lol:

Because he now lives in Serbia and is assimilated into Serbian society and his genes will be passed on to Serbs. This guy is clearly a Serb now. Although I agree that his origins are probably Albanian.
And he looks Albanian more than Serb. The Soldier I posted looks more like a Serb actually.

It's like saying you're not Serbian because you have some Croatian and Romanian ancestry.


Resembles Dna8 kinda. Either Gorid or Pontid, I am more inclined to Gorid but I might be getting that impression because he is all swollen and beaten up.

Serbian members here claim even this Serb is apparently ''exotic'' for them .......




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5z0fo-Y_QS4

[Moje ime]

I have said in the past, lol. I only made you a question on why this guy can not pass in Serbia, a question which you kinda dodged by just saying that he is similar to a politician and therefore can not pass. From my perspective the singer and the politician ain't that strikingly different from Lazar Markovic.

Honestly singer to me looks like mix of Albanian and Gypsy.

I don't know what kind of answer you expect me to give except my personal experience as a Serb living in Serbia all life?

If you say those photos are Spanish Gypsies what evidence you give me they can't pass in your nation? Nothing but your personal opinion. And I respect that.

Every person born and raised in a society is naturally able to recognize people who look closer and more familiar to him/her. Why I wouldn't be able to recognize what is average Serbian look and what is Albanian look?

https://editorial01.shutterstock.com/wm-preview-1500/10082702w/215306d1/fulham-fc-player-signing-premier-league-football-motspur-park-london-uk-shutterstock-editorial-10082702w.jpg

Lazar doesn't look like singer or Haradinaj at all although his look is not most common and his heritage may be questionable.

Did you watch videos? Did you notice what is most common and average Serbian look? It isn't Lazar's look.

[Jana]

Btw, in second OP photo he can pass as dark Austrian.

[Moje ime]

Resembles Dna8 kinda. Either Gorid or Pontid, I am more inclined to Gorid but I might be getting that impression because he is all swollen and beaten up.

Obviously you are trolling.

[Xz2k9]

Resembles Dna8 kinda. Either Gorid or Pontid, I am more inclined to Gorid but I might be getting that impression because he is all swollen and beaten up.

Also , Viriato, what do you think about this Serb ?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wukeupQk4eQ

[Moje ime]

Because he now lives in Serbia and is assimilated into Serbian society and his genes will be passed on to Serbs. This guy is clearly a Serb now. Although I agree that his origins are probably Albanian.
And he looks Albanian more than Serb. The Soldier I posted looks more like a Serb actually.




He may be Serbian citizen but he is not Serb. Serbs are not Americans, you need to have common old enough heritage and common history with other members of a nation to be one of them in this case of Serbs. Especially Gypsies can never become Serbs because they came here very recently and are not Europeans.

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

Also , Viriato, what do you think about this Serb ?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wukeupQk4eQ

Dinaric.

http://antropologia-fizyczna.pl/images/typologia/michalski/ah-480934204.jpg

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

Obviously you are trolling.

I am not though.

[Moje ime]

I am not though.

Yeah right

[CommonSense]

Because he now lives in Serbia and is assimilated into Serbian society and his genes will be passed on to Serbs. This guy is clearly a Serb now. Although I agree that his origins are probably Albanian.
And he looks Albanian more than Serb. The Soldier I posted looks more like a Serb actually.

It's like saying you're not Serbian because you have some Croatian and Romanian ancestry.



Serbian members here claim even this Serb is apparently ''exotic'' for them .......




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5z0fo-Y_QS4

Our ethnicity isn't socio-cultural like the French, but based on mutual ancestry. You can't just become a Serb if none of your recent ancestors identified as such or if you're mixed with something too foreign. As an Albanian, you should know this all too well. What would have became of your own people if they didn't value blood ties so much?

[RenaRyuguu]

We have to go back to our roots. Who's from where? Who's is what? and the term Serbian is who's village was who's but non brainwashed and we have to restore deceased ectoplasms.

[Moje ime]

I just watched Lazar Marković's video (photos are not relevant in most cases I prefer video) and he isn't exotic at all although on more swarthy end. Pontid/Dinarid. Typical Pontid, I call it Serbian eyes, only his nose is unusual but is Dinaricized obviously. And doesn't look like OP at all.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=127&v=r4eGSuv67Ug

[Voskos]

Cromagnid+asian alpinoid.

[MiloshN]

Jos kad sam ga video da je metnuo crnogorsku narodnu nosnju pa zapevao tekla voda na valove, tedo da se slogiram :D