Palestinians or ethnic Iranians. Which one is darker overall?

[cyberlorian]

Ethnic Iranians = exception dingly Iranian Turks, Iranian Arabs, etc.

[StonyArabia]

Palestinians are darker

[Hadouken]

but Toppo900 !!!!!

[Kukushka]

THe lightest arab ive seen is a palestian girl. But other palestians look nafri/egypstians. Theyre diverse ppl.
A few even black.
I think we can say that palis may be much lighter AND darker than regular persians because of their variation.

[cyberlorian]

Palestinians are darker


THe lightest arab ive seen is a palestian girl. But other palestians look nafri/egypstians. Theyre diverse ppl.
A few even black.
I think we can say that palis may be much lighter AND darker than regular persians because of their variation.

I guess, Iranians are mostly darker than Syrians and Lebanese. Palestinians might be on pair with Iranians. Iraqis, Jordianians, Yemenis and Gulf Arabs are mostly darker than Iranians.

[Kukushka]

I guess, Iranians are mostly darker than Syrians and Lebanese. Palestinians might be on pair with Iranians. Iraqis, Jordianians, Yemenis and Gulf Arabs are mostly darker than Iranians.

Yes but all those groups a mixed. Palis especialky. Some black slave descendants but also bosniak descendats.

[Hadouken]

I guess, Iranians are mostly darker than Syrians and Lebanese. Palestinians might be on pair with Iranians. Iraqis, Jordianians, Yemenis and Gulf Arabs are mostly darker than Iranians.

iranians are not darker than syrians and lebanese . for the 100th time now idiot

[cyberlorian]

iranians are not darker than syrians and lebanese . for the 100th time now idiot

Is it the other way around? I do not think so.

[Hadouken]

Is it the other way around? I do not think so.

very similar

[MEDACHE]

15% south asian vs 15% SSA

dno

[cyberlorian]

very similar

Syrians and Lebanese might be slightly lighter pigmented.

[cyberlorian]

15% south asian vs 15% SSA

dno

Palestinians do not score 15 percent SSA. They score around 7-8 percent.

[cyberlorian]

Bump.


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[MEDACHE]

Palestinians do not score 15 percent SSA. They score around 7-8 percent.

close enough

[Lauχum]

Palestinians do not score 15 percent SSA. They score around 7-8 percent.

More like 5.4%

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[Lauχum]

I think Palestinians are darker btw.

[cyberlorian]

I think Palestinians are darker btw.

What about Syrians and Lebanese? I think Iranians are darker than both. What do you think?

[Lauχum]

What about Syrians and Lebanese? I think Iranians are darker than both. What do you think?

I'd put Lebanese and Syrians on par with Iranians in terms of pigmentation.

[Levant15]

I think Iranians, Lebanese, and Palestinians Christians are similar on average. Palestinian Muslims are all over thr place but they're darker on average

Palestinian Christians and Iranians do have some people on the darker spectrum that hardly show up among Lebanese.

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[Zroota]

Palestinians are darker.

[Fibonacci]

Ethnic Iranians = exception dingly Iranian Turks, Iranian Arabs, etc.

Iranian turks are turkified Iranians and caucasians if you didn't know.... We are aware that we are related to Iranians but not culturally. My neighbor was an Iranian turk but with Georgian ancestry. There are Kurds and as well as other caspian Iranians tribes clustered within the Turkic community in Iran and the Republic.

[Dragoon]

Would the original Iranians (before the Arab invasions) have looked lighter or darker?
Also would the original/older Arabs have been light or darker than present?
Or simply both looked similar even 1000 years ago?

[cyberlorian]

Would the original Iranians (before the Arab invasions) have looked lighter or darker?
Also would the original/older Arabs have been light or darker than present?
Or simply both looked similar even 1000 years ago?

There are some thnic Arabs in Iran but I think original Iranians were not darker or lighter than today's.

[NSXD60]

They are equally dark.

[MysteriousWays]

Palestinians by a little, but both of course, have wide ranges of extremes.

[Gangrel]

Palestinians of course

[Decius]

Palestinians by far

[Kamal900]

Palestinians by a little, but both of course, have wide ranges of extremes.

Agreed.

[FinalFlash]

If those Palestinians are accurately depicted on that Jew Cory's videos on YouTube, then I'd say Iranians are lighter on average. Probably more on par with Lebs and Syrians if not lighter.

[Kamal900]

If those Palestinians are accurately depicted on that Jew Cory's videos on YouTube, then I'd say Iranians are lighter on average. Probably more on par with Lebs and Syrians if not lighter.

Agreed. We're one of the most darkest people in west asia.

[FinalFlash]

Agreed. We're one of the most darkest people in west asia.

Yes. Still though, you guys, along with Syrians and Lebs can produce some Greekish or Italian looking individuals too.

[Kamal900]

Yes. Still though, you guys, along with Syrians and Lebs can produce some Greekish or Italian looking individuals too.

Would I and my big brother pass in Greece or Italy?
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?257056-Reclassify-my-big-brother-and-me

[Lauχum]

Would I and my big brother pass in Greece or Italy?
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?257056-Reclassify-my-big-brother-and-me

Yes

[FinalFlash]

Would I and my big brother pass in Greece or Italy?
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?257056-Reclassify-my-big-brother-and-me

Yes. Greece, Italy, Turkey, Georgia, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Malta, the North Caucasus, and possibly the Balkans too. Both of you dont strike me as typical Levantines tbh.

[Papastratosels26]

Iranians

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[Fibonacci]

Iranians

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That's very surprising because Greek historians claimed that Persians were lighter than Greeks themselves or at least the same skintone. LOL

[Fibonacci]

Iranians are by far lighter than many Syrians and Palestinians who are on average much more dark tham their neighbors. Ive seen Palestinians all over the news. Iranians and Syrians are probably the same but Iranians can be much lighter.

When Europeans travel to Iran and take selfies with the locals, you can see that many times the Europeans fit in with the locals due to similarities in their skintones. Iranians can be as pale as Europeans but with a yellow undertone.

[Borealis]

Iranians are by far lighter than many Syrians and Palestinians who are on average much more dark tham their neighbors. Ive seen Palestinians all over the news. Iranians and Syrians are probably the same but Iranians can be much lighter.

When Europeans travel to Iran and take selfies with the locals, you can see that many times the Europeans fit in with the locals due to similarities in their skintones. Iranians can be as pale as Europeans but with a yellow undertone.

That's not correct at all. I have never seen a Persian that passes as European, I have seen many, many Syrians who do though. You can argue about Jordanians, Palestinians, and Iraqis but can we just admit Syrians and Lebanese are on a different level-everyone with eyes can see that.

Iranians are really something in between Syrians and Iraqis in terms of pigmentation.

[Borealis]

Would the original Iranians (before the Arab invasions) have looked lighter or darker?
Also would the original/older Arabs have been light or darker than present?
Or simply both looked similar even 1000 years ago?

The Arab invasion of Iran left a negligible genetic impact on Iranians. They'd have looked the same.

[Fibonacci]

That's not correct at all. I have never seen a Persian that passes as European, I have seen many, many Syrians who do though. You can argue about Jordanians, Palestinians, and Iraqis but can we just admit Syrians and Lebanese are on a different level-everyone with eyes can see that.

Iranians are really something in between Syrians and Iraqis in terms of pigmentation.

That's literally because some Syrians have 20-40% European ancestry. Do people even know what they're talking about now adays? Does anyone on this forum know any history? Syria has been the first country every European group has settled in on their way to the middle east. Templars, Greeks, Romans, French and English. Many Syrians are descendants of Greek, Roman and templar soldiers because they settled in Syria and most likely lived their entire lives there. No wonder. Iranians don't have the European ancestry that some Syrians do. Find me an actual Mesopotamian Syrian then we can talk. Not some European mutt

Re read my statement again there buddy. Some Europeans who travel to Iran sometimes fit in with the locals in terms of SKINTONE. Not phenotype. Therefore it has nothing to do with Persians passing as Europeans. Even so, there are indeed Persians who can pass for southern Europeans. There are also lighter Iranians who can pass for central Europeans. Ive seen it all. Syrians have a higher chance of passing in Europe due to their European ancestry. But still, many Syrians look very native to the middle East. The blue eyed, blonde Syrians are hardly native to the middle East because Syria is a massive flat hot desert. You don't expect to find blondes and blue eyes in Syria. It is the middle east

[cyberlorian]

That's literally because some Syrians have 20-40% European ancestry. Do people even know what they're talking about now adays? Does anyone on this forum know any history? Syria has been the first country every European group has settled in on their way to the middle east. Templars, Greeks, Romans, French and English. Many Syrians are descendants of Greek, Roman and templar soldiers because they settled in Syria and most likely lived their entire lives there. No wonder. Iranians don't have the European ancestry that some Syrians do. Find me an actual Mesopotamian Syrian then we can talk. Not some European mutt

Re read my statement again there buddy. Some Europeans who travel to Iran sometimes fit in with the locals in terms of SKINTONE. Not phenotype. Therefore it has nothing to do with Persians passing as Europeans. Even so, there are indeed Persians who can pass for southern Europeans. There are also lighter Iranians who can pass for central Europeans. Ive seen it all. Syrians have a higher chance of passing in Europe due to their European ancestry. But still, many Syrians look very native to the middle East. The blue eyed, blonde Syrians are hardly native to the middle East because Syria is a massive flat hot desert. You don't expect to find blondes and blue eyes in Syria. It is the middle east

Iranians are usually darker than Syrians.

[Dragoon]

The Arab invasion of Iran left a negligible genetic impact on Iranians. They'd have looked the same.

Explain this:

...an Iranian native’s genetic composition is 56 percent Arabian , 4 percent Eastern Africa, 2 percent Northern Africa, 4 percent Central Asia, 6 percent Asia Minor and 2 percent from Southern Europe and Southern Asia each (According to Geographic Project).

http://realiran.org/national-geographic-iranian-natives-genetic-makeup-is-56-percent-arabian/

[zarzian]

Explain this:

...an Iranian native’s genetic composition is 56 percent Arabian , 4 percent Eastern Africa, 2 percent Northern Africa, 4 percent Central Asia, 6 percent Asia Minor and 2 percent from Southern Europe and Southern Asia each (According to Geographic Project).

http://realiran.org/national-geographic-iranian-natives-genetic-makeup-is-56-percent-arabian/

THis is a propaganda piece done by the Saudi funded Al - Arabyia, the original NatGeo article is quite different https://genographic.nationalgeographic.com/reference-populations/

There is no Arabian Genetic component anyway, Arabs are just mixtures of different populations such as Natufians, Iran Chalcolithic types etc.

[Dragoon]

THis is a propaganda piece done by the Saudi funded Al - Arabyia, the original NatGeo article is quite different https://genographic.nationalgeographic.com/reference-populations/

There is no Arabian Genetic component anyway, Arabs are just mixtures of different populations such as Natufians, Iran Chalcolithic types etc.

Ah I see. Maybe the website had an agenda and changed Southwest Asian to mean "only Arab".

This makes more sense:


the 42% Mediterranean and 42% Southwest Asian components found in our reference Iranian population reflect these ancient patterns. The 8% Northern European percentage is representative of some interaction with European populations, either via populations to the west, or from migrations through the steppe zone to the east. The 5% Northeast Asian component likely arrived via the migrations of groups originating in that region, such as the Turks and Mongols. The Silk Road also may have served to disperse east Asian genetic patterns further to the west.

[cyberlorian]

Explain this:

...an Iranian native’s genetic composition is 56 percent Arabian , 4 percent Eastern Africa, 2 percent Northern Africa, 4 percent Central Asia, 6 percent Asia Minor and 2 percent from Southern Europe and Southern Asia each (According to Geographic Project).

http://realiran.org/national-geographic-iranian-natives-genetic-makeup-is-56-percent-arabian/

Because they did not put any Iranian admixture component. In the same test, Altai people score 18 percent North European. In other words, the admixture components are few and are arbitrarily chosen.

[Borealis]

Explain this:

...an Iranian native’s genetic composition is 56 percent Arabian , 4 percent Eastern Africa, 2 percent Northern Africa, 4 percent Central Asia, 6 percent Asia Minor and 2 percent from Southern Europe and Southern Asia each (According to Geographic Project).

http://realiran.org/national-geographic-iranian-natives-genetic-makeup-is-56-percent-arabian/

National Geographic DNA reports are complete crap.

[cyberlorian]

That's literally because some Syrians have 20-40% European ancestry. Do people even know what they're talking about now adays? Does anyone on this forum know any history? Syria has been the first country every European group has settled in on their way to the middle east. Templars, Greeks, Romans, French and English. Many Syrians are descendants of Greek, Roman and templar soldiers because they settled in Syria and most likely lived their entire lives there. No wonder. Iranians don't have the European ancestry that some Syrians do. Find me an actual Mesopotamian Syrian then we can talk. Not some European mutt

Re read my statement again there buddy. Some Europeans who travel to Iran sometimes fit in with the locals in terms of SKINTONE. Not phenotype. Therefore it has nothing to do with Persians passing as Europeans. Even so, there are indeed Persians who can pass for southern Europeans. There are also lighter Iranians who can pass for central Europeans. Ive seen it all. Syrians have a higher chance of passing in Europe due to their European ancestry. But still, many Syrians look very native to the middle East. The blue eyed, blonde Syrians are hardly native to the middle East because Syria is a massive flat hot desert. You don't expect to find blondes and blue eyes in Syria. It is the middle east

Syria has more percentage of blondes percentage of and blue eyes than Iran.

https://i.4pcdn.org/pol/1432149905370.png