Can this Gypsy football player pass in Latin America?

[CommonSense]

His name is Predrag Luka

https://alchetron.com/cdn/predrag-luka-d9f0d019-b634-49a8-ac7c-7e2fa14a4e2-resize-750.jpeg

https://www.in4s.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/luka_koja_0005.jpg

http://www.rtvbn.com/cache/images/14-08-2018/765-430-331528_1.jpg

https://www.footballdatabase.eu/images/photos/players/a_88/88978.jpg

http://www.alo.rs/resources/images/0000/028/639/Predrag%20Luka_1000x0.jpg

[Vojnik]

Man he looks south american

[Latinus]

Looks mixed with Amerindian, yes, he pass here.

[Vojnik]

He's not your average Gypsy imo.

[CommonSense]

Looks mixed with Amerindian, yes, he pass here.

A lot of Gypsies have an unsually close resemblace to darker Latin American mestizos for some reason. Take this guy for example:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?235208-Classify-Gypsy-guy

This is something that's been largely unnoticed on this forum. I bet other members could find even better examples.

[Impaler]

He looks like young Iván Zamorano. So yes, he can easily pass in Latin America.

[Maguzanci]

I think he looks predominantly Amerindian (not sure which type) so yes.

[Maguzanci]

A lot of Gypsies have an unsually close resemblace to darker Latin American mestizos for some reason. Take this guy for example:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?235208-Classify-Gypsy-guy

This is something that's been largely unnoticed on this forum. I bet other members could find even better examples.

I think the overlap is seen the most with the Andean type of Native Americans like Quechuas, Aymaras from Peru, Bolivia and Ecuador. Would these Quechua from Cusco pass as Gypsies?: https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?255842-How-common-are-pseudo-MENA-phenotypes-in-Andean-countries&p=5354191&viewfull=1#post5354191

Some other good examples of Gypsies who can pass as Indomestizos i think: https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?91288-Non-Hispanics-who-look-quot-Hispanic-quot&p=1852858&viewfull=1#post1852858

Or Banel Nicolita although he can also pass as South Asian I think

Indeed. It is something a lot of ppl don't notice. It is similar to how Pueblid type of Native Americans from Mexico can also overlap with the more Veddoid and Horner types of Arabians like Yemeni Jews, Soqotris, Mehris, etc:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?243466-Classify-Yemeni-jew

[CommonSense]

I think the overlap is seen the most with the Andean type of Native Americans like Quechuas, Aymaras from Peru, Bolivia and Ecuador. Would these Quechua from Cusco pass as Gypsies?: https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?255842-How-common-are-pseudo-MENA-phenotypes-in-Andean-countries&p=5354191&viewfull=1#post5354191

Some other good examples of Gypsies who can pass as Indomestizos i think: https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?91288-Non-Hispanics-who-look-quot-Hispanic-quot&p=1852858&viewfull=1#post1852858

Or Banel Nicolita although he can also pass as South Asian I think

Indeed. It is something a lot of ppl don't notice. It is similar to how Pueblid type of Native Americans from Mexico can also overlap with the more Veddoid and Horner types of Arabians like Yemeni Jews, Soqotris, Mehris, etc:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?243466-Classify-Yemeni-jew

I think the PURE Natives still look pretty distinct and strongly mongoloid, but diluted by mediterranean admixture the Andeans really do resemble those groups. Large, hooked noses and brown skin - put them in rags and everybody is going to mistake them for Gypsies or Middle Eastern refugees.

[Maguzanci]

I think the PURE Natives still look pretty distinct and strongly mongoloid, but diluted by mediterranean admixture the Andeans really do resemble those groups. Large, hooked noses and brown skin - put them in rags and everybody is going to mistake them for Gypsies or Middle Eastern refugees.

How much Mediterranean admix do you think the Andeans need for them to be mistaken as Gypsies or MENA refugees?

Also I agreed with you. According to a Peruvian member here, there are two types of Natives: the Amazonians and the Andeans. The first type lives mostly in the Amazon jungles and look very Asiatic such as having chinkier eyes, flat noses, thick lips and rounder faces. While the Andeans are the majority of the pop and has Caucasoid-like features compared to the Amazonians such as large hook nose, thin lips and bigger eyes.

[Xacal]

Yes. Looks Indo-Mestizo.

[CommonSense]

How much Mediterranean admix do you think the Andeans need for them to be mistaken as Gypsies or MENA refugees?

Also I agreed with you. According to a Peruvian member here, there are two types of Natives: the Amazonians and the Andeans. The first type lives mostly in the Amazon jungles and look very Asiatic such as having chinkier eyes, flat noses, thick lips and rounder faces. While the Andeans are the majority of the pop and has Caucasoid-like features compared to the Amazonians such as large hook nose, thin lips and bigger eyes.

I guess living up there in the mountains, where the conditions are much harsher, made them develop these caucasoid-like features. Even in Europe, plane-dweller tend to be more brachycephalic and round-faced compared to the highlanders. Btw, I think the natives from the Amazon can sometimes look pretty similar to Southeast Asians.

[CommonSense]

Bump

[Dna8]

Andeanesque vibe.

[Mr.G]

I imagined the thread title as 'Guess Latin American or Gypsy'. I think I would have felt 60% chance he was Gypsy and 40% chance Latin American.

[Dna8]

He's an okay player (from the same part of Serbia where I'm from)

[CommonSense]

He's an okay player (from the same part of Serbia where I'm from)

He was pretty decent in Partizan, it's a shame his career went downhill all of a sudden.

[Papastratosels26]

Yes

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

A lot of Gypsies have an unsually close resemblace to darker Latin American mestizos for some reason. Take this guy for example:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?235208-Classify-Gypsy-guy

This is something that's been largely unnoticed on this forum. I bet other members could find even better examples.

Idk how is situation in Serbia, but in Zagreb we call all Brazilian players (obviously mixed-race ones) Gypsy, because to average man they look similar.

[CommonSense]

Idk how is situation in Serbia, but in Zagreb we call all Brazilian players (obviously mixed-race ones) Gypsy, because to average man they look similar.

We don't have as many foreigners as you do and most of them are just black so I haven't noticed any such a trend. The refugees are however commonly compared to Gypsies and it's usually hard to differentiate between the two because both groups are brown, wear ragged clothes and have an oriental appearance.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

We don't have as many foreigners as you do and most of them are just black so I haven't noticed any such a trend. The refugees are however commonly compared to Gypsies and it's usually hard to differentiate between the two because both groups are brown, wear ragged clothes and have an oriental appearance.

Agreed. I was a kid when Da Silva was playing for Dinamo, but remember old man calling him Gypsy all the time because he tought he's Brazillian Roma. He didn't know there Gypsies are rather uncommon in Brazil and that Eduardo was your average pardo Brazillian. Dude was very respected by everyone in ZG so he wasn't called Gypsy for nothing except his look.

http://nogometne-vijesti.hr/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/eduardo-da-silva-dinamo.jpg
https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/eduardo-da-silva-dinamo-zagreb-picture-id661022952
https://adriaticmedianethr.files.wordpress.com/2015/08/000_dv1591385-e1462365724747.jpg?quality=100&strip=all&w=670&h=400&crop=1

[Aspirin]

Looks like the user Disaffection/Basilisk.

[CommonSense]

Agreed. I was a kid when Da Silva was playing for Dinamo, but remember old man calling him Gypsy all the time because he tought he's Brazillian Roma. He didn't know there Gypsies are rather uncommon in Brazil and that Eduardo was your average pardo Brazillian. Dude was very respected by everyone in ZG so he wasn't called Gypsy for nothing except his look.



Interesting, what about Luis Ibáñez? He's an Argentine, but quite mixed and dark. I'm asking because I know he used to play in Croatia for quite a while until he came to Crvena Zvezda.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

Interesting, what about Luis Ibáñez? He's an Argentine, but quite mixed and dark. I'm asking because I know he used to play in Croatia for quite a while until he came to Crvena Zvezda.

Easy passes as Gypsoid if you ask me. Good player and person though.

[KonanxB]

Well, "pass" in Latin America is something that almost any population in the world can do, since maybe it is the most varied region in the world.

So in the case of this gypsy, I would say that he FITS as a Latin American indomestizo.

[Borealis]

Looks like the user Disaffection/Basilisk.

It does not

[Borealis]

A lot of Gypsies have an unsually close resemblace to darker Latin American mestizos for some reason. Take this guy for example:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?235208-Classify-Gypsy-guy

This is something that's been largely unnoticed on this forum. I bet other members could find even better examples.

Hell a lot of South Asians can sort of resemble mestizos too, although they are usually less European shifted. With gypsies that problem is gone because they are part European and also have significant west Asian which gives them Med influence just like mestizos.

[CostaRicaBall]

Too hard. Can pass as a tri-racial (for the noise )leaning to indomestizo. But the problem is the skull shape.