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Bobby Martnen
09-08-2018, 08:00 AM
All of these are "boderline cases" of Whiteness, and I'm curious what others think. Some of these are based on real people, some are entirely fictional.

1. Paternal grandfather is Persian, other grandparents are North/West Euro. Catholic.

2. Paternal grandfather is Pakistani, other grandparents are from the British Isles. Raised Protestant, now atheist.

3. Father is a mix of West German and British Isles, mother is Slavic and Sicilian. Protestant.

4. Father is Syrian, mother is German-American. Raised Lutheran, now Buddhist.

5. Father is half Sicilian, half Irish. Mother is mostly German and English, but has a Slavic grandparent. Catholic.

6. Father is half Asia Minor Greek, half Northwest Euro. Mother is Northwest Euro. Protestant.

7. Father is half Sicilian, half Central European. Mother is Persian. Catholic.

8. Father is off-White Cuban. Mother is 3/4 Northwest Euro, 1/4 North Italian. Catholic.

9. Father is Northwest Euro, mostly Germanic. Mother is half English, half North Mexican. (probably Harnizo or Castizo). Protestant.

Harkonnen
09-08-2018, 08:14 AM
Are you into sports? Hockey perhaps?

Bobby Martnen
09-08-2018, 08:15 AM
Are you into sports? Hockey perhaps?

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HelloGuys
09-08-2018, 08:15 AM
Five, i think

Bobby Martnen
09-08-2018, 08:25 AM
Five, i think

Why only 5?

Khamzat
09-08-2018, 08:35 AM
In this day and age being white is superficial, if the quarter Pakistani or quarter persian look white then they will be seen as such, if not then they won't be seen as white simple.

arkas
09-08-2018, 08:44 AM
7 is not White, the rest of them are White. I think when someone is 1/4 non-European but still fully or close to fully Caucasoid, the person is most likely White.

7 is not White because she is only half European, 7 could look White in some places in which case they can be considered to be living life as a White person since that's how society sees them.

Kukushka
09-08-2018, 09:17 AM
Well for other people I guess it depends what they look like and I have no idea of that.

Judging from those who post photos people would probably think im ”whiter” than most who are highly/almost fully european on this forum, although I am not...

(Just an example)

Bobby Martnen
09-08-2018, 06:46 PM
I'm curious why some saw #5 as White but not #3

Marmara
09-08-2018, 06:52 PM
All maybe except 8

Chaos One
09-08-2018, 06:54 PM
3 and 5 for sure, no doubt.

4 and 7...hm. If you consider "white" by skin colour, probably. Here at TA? No way.

The rest will probably be white for the whole society, but not here overall speaking. Depends who you're talking.

Creoda
09-08-2018, 07:22 PM
All of these are "boderline cases" of Whiteness, and I'm curious what others think. Some of these are based on real people, some are entirely fictional.

1. Paternal grandfather is Persian, other grandparents are North/West Euro. Catholic.

2. Paternal grandfather is Pakistani, other grandparents are from the British Isles. Raised Protestant, now atheist.

3. Father is a mix of West German and British Isles, mother is Slavic and Sicilian. Protestant.

4. Father is Syrian, mother is German-American. Raised Lutheran, now Buddhist.

5. Father is half Sicilian, half Irish. Mother is mostly German and English, but has a Slavic grandparent. Catholic.

6. Father is half Asia Minor Greek, half Northwest Euro. Mother is Northwest Euro. Protestant.

7. Father is half Sicilian, half Central European. Mother is Persian. Catholic.

8. Father is off-White Cuban. Mother is 3/4 Northwest Euro, 1/4 North Italian. Catholic.

9. Father is Northwest Euro, mostly Germanic. Mother is half English, half North Mexican. (probably Harnizo or Castizo). Protestant.
1. Yes, just. Depends on how they identified.
2. No
3. Yes, no question
4. No
5. Yes, no question
6. Yes
7. No
8. Yes
9. Yes, probably. Moreso in America.

This is based largely on current standards. Ideally the standards would be stricter.

Visage pâle
09-08-2018, 07:40 PM
1. Yes, just. Depends on how they identified.
2. No
3. Yes, no question
4. No
5. Yes, no question
6. Yes
7. No
8. Yes
9. Yes, probably. Moreso in America.

The same, except for the 2. I say he's white.

Seya
09-08-2018, 07:41 PM
why is the religion important?

KMack
09-08-2018, 07:57 PM
All of these are "boderline cases" of Whiteness, and I'm curious what others think. Some of these are based on real people, some are entirely fictional.

1. Paternal grandfather is Persian, other grandparents are North/West Euro. Catholic.

2. Paternal grandfather is Pakistani, other grandparents are from the British Isles. Raised Protestant, now atheist.

3. Father is a mix of West German and British Isles, mother is Slavic and Sicilian. Protestant.

4. Father is Syrian, mother is German-American. Raised Lutheran, now Buddhist.

5. Father is half Sicilian, half Irish. Mother is mostly German and English, but has a Slavic grandparent. Catholic.

6. Father is half Asia Minor Greek, half Northwest Euro. Mother is Northwest Euro. Protestant.

7. Father is half Sicilian, half Central European. Mother is Persian. Catholic.

8. Father is off-White Cuban. Mother is 3/4 Northwest Euro, 1/4 North Italian. Catholic.

9. Father is Northwest Euro, mostly Germanic. Mother is half English, half North Mexican. (probably Harnizo or Castizo). Protestant.

This woman is German, born and raised in Hamburg.
https://www.thelocal.de/userdata/images/1530281218_jana.jpg
This woman is English, born and raised I believe.
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQwql2HX1n9TELkqgK8W6qFLrkPjEyi2 D2qGMqCXbs-1ubOArzJ

FWIW White Brits are probably less than 50% of London residents.

KMack
09-08-2018, 08:06 PM
J. Ketch why are you thumbing down a factual post? My post is factual and neutral.

Bobby Martnen
09-08-2018, 10:06 PM
why is the religion important?

Because Christians are Whiter than Moslems for cultural and historical reasons.

Bobby Martnen
09-08-2018, 10:06 PM
J. Ketch why are you thumbing down a factual post? My post is factual and neutral.

Because that woman is not a real German, will never be, and you know exactly what I meant in OP.

Bobby Martnen
09-08-2018, 10:07 PM
1. Yes, just. Depends on how they identified.
2. No
3. Yes, no question
4. No
5. Yes, no question
6. Yes
7. No
8. Yes
9. Yes, probably. Moreso in America.

This is based largely on current standards. Ideally the standards would be stricter.

What would they be under ideal standards?

Westbrook
09-08-2018, 10:13 PM
Because Christians are Whiter than Moslems for cultural and historical reasons.

It makes no difference. There's no way of knowing who is white without seeing them either.

Bobby Martnen
09-08-2018, 10:14 PM
It makes no difference. There's no way of knowing who is white without seeing them either.

Some of these are real people, some are fictional.

Creoda
09-08-2018, 10:20 PM
This woman is German, born and raised in Hamburg.
https://www.thelocal.de/userdata/images/1530281218_jana.jpg
This woman is English, born and raised I believe.
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQwql2HX1n9TELkqgK8W6qFLrkPjEyi2 D2qGMqCXbs-1ubOArzJ

FWIW White Brits are probably less than 50% of London residents.
This is a racial thread in the race section, and those blacks you posted are obviously not racially German or English. If your post was neutral you would have pointed out that Pakistani's or Persians could also be white, Mr. Disingenuous.

Westbrook
09-08-2018, 10:21 PM
Some of these are real people, some are fictional.

So why no pics

Bobby Martnen
09-08-2018, 10:22 PM
So why no pics

Because

Cristiano viejo
09-08-2018, 10:22 PM
None, IMO.

Teutone
09-08-2018, 10:23 PM
3 and 5

Bobby Martnen
09-08-2018, 10:24 PM
None, IMO.

Why none? #3 and #5 are fully European by blood (if you consider Sicilians to be White)

Teutone
09-08-2018, 10:25 PM
This woman is German, born and raised in Hamburg.
https://www.thelocal.de/userdata/images/1530281218_jana.jpg
This woman is English, born and raised I believe.
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQwql2HX1n9TELkqgK8W6qFLrkPjEyi2 D2qGMqCXbs-1ubOArzJ

FWIW White Brits are probably less than 50% of London residents.

Nigger = only German citizenship not a ethnic German

Cristiano viejo
09-08-2018, 10:25 PM
Why none? #3 and #5 are fully European by blood (if you consider Sicilians to be White)

Well, I dont.

Bobby Martnen
09-08-2018, 10:26 PM
Well, I dont.

I can understand seeing full Sicilians as non-White, but someone who is 1/8 Sicilian, 7/8 Northwestern and Central European is obviously White.

Creoda
09-08-2018, 10:28 PM
What would they be under ideal standards?
Ideally people with more than 1/8 non-European ancestry would not be considered white for any practical purpose, for Africans even less.

Bobby Martnen
09-08-2018, 10:29 PM
Ideally people with more than 1/8 non-European ancestry would not be considered white for any practical purpose, for Africans even less.

Is Sicilian ancestry non-European? What about Asia Minor Greek, or Cypriot, or Jewish?

KMack
09-08-2018, 10:31 PM
This is a racial thread in the race section, and those blacks you posted are obviously not racially German or English. If your post was neutral you would have pointed out that Pakistani's or Persians could also be white, Mr. Disingenuous.

Yeah I included people of a certain race. So what? Do you know how multi racial some Euro countries are and are becoming?

Bobby Martnen
09-08-2018, 10:32 PM
Yeah I included people of a certain race. So what? Do you know how multi racial some Euro countries are and are becoming?

Those people will never be true Europeans and should be deported.

Kukushka
09-08-2018, 10:37 PM
Look it what matters. People usually think im northern euro, baltic or slavic.
This woman is half - arab:
https://x.cdn-expressen.se/images/24/8e/248e3d99c6c848a78fa7a66525a68941/4x3/650@80.jpg

Creoda
09-08-2018, 10:38 PM
Is Sicilian ancestry non-European? What about Asia Minor Greek, or Cypriot, or Jewish?
Sicilians are European, Asia Minor Greeks probably not, Cypriots no, Ashkenazi's are genetically half European but like Sicilians they've been in Europe long enough that they're a special case.

Ruggery
09-08-2018, 10:42 PM
You make many crazy mixes of Bobby.

What do you think of these?

1 Catholic sicilian father, finnish protestant mother

2 Protestant german father, Buddhist japanese mother (if I know he is very crazy :blink:)

3 Catholic spanish father, Catholic irish american mother

4 Protestant Indian father, Protestant British mother.

Bobby Martnen
09-08-2018, 10:51 PM
You make many crazy mixes of Bobby.

What do you think of these?

1 Catholic sicilian father, finnish protestant mother

2 Protestant german father, Buddhist japanese mother (if I know he is very crazy :blink:)

3 Catholic spanish father, Catholic irish american mother

4 Protestant Indian father, Protestant British mother.

1 - White
2 - Eurasian
3 - White Hispanic
4 - Anglo-Indian

Gründig
09-11-2018, 02:54 PM
Edit. Nvm

Creoda
09-11-2018, 02:58 PM
Aren't you part gypsy?
No. What makes you think that?

Gründig
09-11-2018, 02:59 PM
No. What makes you think that?

Wrong person.

Catarinense1998
09-11-2018, 03:00 PM
No TA without Bobby.

Lightshade25
09-11-2018, 03:01 PM
If you look white, you're white.

Roflmao
09-11-2018, 03:18 PM
3 and 5