Can Joni Kauko pass in Chechnya

[Harkonnen]

http://www.ts.fi/static/content/pic_5_2715087_k977339_1200.jpg
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/0PnDqgQiM98/maxresdefault.jpg

[Hulu]

No

[Dekziiro]

If somebody tells me he's Chechen, i wouldn't be surprised.
But he would be from South Chechnya.

[Hulu]

If somebody tells me he's Chechen, i wouldn't be surprised.
But he would be from South Chechnya.

:rolleyes:

[black hole]

:rolleyes:




Such types are not rare in North Caucasus. Moreover, he could fit better there than in Albania.

[Hulu]

Such types are not rare in North Caucasus. Moreover, he could fit better there than in Albania.

Lol. Nobody is talking about Albania here.

Find me one with his eyeshape. Not just Chechnia, Russia too since youre here.The eyes dont lie chico.

[Weiss]

No

[black hole]

Lol. Nobody is talking about Albania here.

Find me one with his eyeshape. Not just Chechnia, Russia too since youre here.The eyes dont lie chico.




as a Russian I have been to Chechnya and I have been to North Ossetia several times, I know what I am talking about. People there have different look.

[Dekziiro]

Lol. Nobody is talking about Albania here.

Find me one with his eyeshape. Not just Chechnia, Russia too since youre here.The eyes dont lie chico.

I have seen plenty Chechens and Russians with eyes like on the first pic but maybe it was just sunny that day

[Hulu]

as a Russian I have been to Chechnya and I have been to North Ossetia several times, I know what I am talking about. People there have different look.

Post them. Your perception is very likely wrong.

[black hole]

Post them. Your perception is very likely wrong.




Sorry, I did not take their pictures when I visited them.

[Hulu]

Sorry, I did not take their pictures when I visited them.

Lol. Post pic from people in that area. You didn't see aliens.

[Dekziiro]

Yeah i was right, not the same eyeshape in Chechens 79972

[black hole]

Lol. Post pic from people in that area. You didn't see aliens.



eye shapes may be different, but such kind of types in this picture I have met when I was there


http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-KxoQ-0q_DwY/UnJ1k4dGMaI/AAAAAAAAApE/cWkzf6cT61M/w1200-h630-p-k-no-nu/2363qx.jpg

[Hulu]

Yeah i was right, not the same eyeshape in Chechens 79972

Definitely not

[Hulu]

eye shapes may be different, but such kind of types in this picture I have met when I was there


http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-KxoQ-0q_DwY/UnJ1k4dGMaI/AAAAAAAAApE/cWkzf6cT61M/w1200-h630-p-k-no-nu/2363qx.jpg

No but interesting looking nonetheless.

[Hulu]

Can Joni Peci pass in Chechnya

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[Dekziiro]

Can Joni Peci pass in Chechnya

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I don't think he can

[Hulu]

I don't think he can

Why not? They're both Joni.

[Harkonnen]

Here he looks more Chechen?

http://i65.tinypic.com/k0rcci.jpg
http://i66.tinypic.com/2hnrgpt.jpg

[Hulu]

Here he looks more Chechen?

http://i65.tinypic.com/k0rccig
http://i66.tinypic.com/2hnrgpt.jpg

Is he swedish? Looks like Alexander Ludwig

https://78.media.tumblr.com/152c49daed37b6deab5ef207e2ec9104/tumblr_oufgk3GO4F1u3wveao1_500.jpg

[Noxv]

http://www.ts.fi/static/content/pic_5_2715087_k977339_1200.jpg
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/0PnDqgQiM98/maxresdefault.jpg

Nope, he cant. Lived in Chechnya and visit it often so i can with full confidence say that he wouldn't pass in Chechnya :D.

[Harkonnen]

I think he could pass in the Kadyrov-Beterbiev-axel

[Harkonnen]

Pumpinen for Methusalehi

https://i.ibb.co/t8fgWx8/13-3-10569204.jpg (https://ibb.co/ChdgTMh)

[Harkonnen]

https://i.ibb.co/MVZRv5F/pic-5-4000569-k3208220-651.jpg (https://ibb.co/tsQbGPV)
https://i.ibb.co/gFjGMhd/13-3-10960577.jpg (https://ibb.co/2Ynw7HS)

[Friedrich Ulrich]

Close to slavic than chechn

[Root]

hyvää iltaa kaikki

such type is absolutely not foreign but it's also not native to our regions, although personally I can say with confidence that he could somewhat pass.. IRL I know a couple of people who look almost exactly like him, one lives in Chechen-aul village.. my relative

[Lemminkäinen]

No because Caucasians have impressive beards.

[Methuselah]

Looks like a Finn with some Russian roots (and Caucasus). Or could pass as a Scandinavian admixed Russian. Or Estonian. But there are strong West Asian vibes on his Northern face indeed.

[Harkonnen]

hyvää iltaa kaikki

such type is absolutely not foreign but it's also not native to our regions, although personally I can say with confidence that he could somewhat pass.. IRL I know a couple of people who look almost exactly like him, one lives in Chechen-aul village.. my relative

:thumb001:

[Harkonnen]

Looks like a Finn with some Russian roots (and Caucasus). Or could pass as a Scandinavian admixed Russian. Or Estonian. But there are strong West Asian vibes on his Northern face indeed.

Caucasus folk have more cragged faces than typical West Asian look.

[Aileron]

imho yes

[Immanenz]

Kurganoid type, CHG is alo expressed

[CommonSense]

He looks northern European. The average Chechen on the other hand is a swarthy Taurid type with the lighter people mostly metrically being identical to the others.

[Tauromachos]

He looks northern European. The average Chechen on the other hand is a swarthy Taurid type with the lighter people mostly metrically being identical to the others.


Chechens are not swarthy ,alot of them even look more similar to some types of Albos actually,
in particular Ghegs

This guy for example fits in Chechnya like a glove
https://www.bosnjaci.net/foto/bugari1_big.jpg
He has even the right type of hat

[Rumata]

I don't think so.

[akva]

His beard can pass in Chechnya but he’s not.

[Konstantinos]

No.

[zeybek]

No way

[Austrvegr]

No. Looks too Northern European.

[Ylla]

Chechens are not swarthy ,alot of them even look more similar to some types of Albos actually,
in particular Ghegs

This guy for example fits in Chechnya like a glove
https://www.bosnjaci.net/foto/bugari1_big.jpg
He has even the right type of hat

I don't know why people think this look is Chechen it's been posted several times, he has sharp med features especially his nose shape, whereas Chechens are usually softer iranic types. Ironically this guy's is probably quite west med shifted.

[War Chef]

as a Russian I have been to Chechnya and I have been to North Ossetia several times, I know what I am talking about. People there have different look.

Why are north Ossetians darker when they are the same genetically as Chechens? I noticed that too

[black hole]

Why are north Ossetians darker when they are the same genetically as Chechens? I noticed that too




it is because of heavily Iranic(Scythians) and Turkic(Kipchak) influence, Ossetians look quite different from each other, you can find among them people with dark and light features

[Methuselah]

Kurganoid type, CHG is alo expressed

Where would you place him? I think he passes well in Russia and can fake Serbian too.

[Dean K]

http://www.ts.fi/static/content/pic_5_2715087_k977339_1200.jpg
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/0PnDqgQiM98/maxresdefault.jpg

He cant pass out of europe. Baltic sea probaly.

[Immanenz]

Where would you place him? I think he passes well in Russia and can fake Serbian too.

Croatia/ Serbia as atypical yes. Outside of Scandinavia: Baltics best otherwise: Germany, Poland, Russia, Ukraine and Czechia- but i dont think its a very common look

[Immanenz]

Where would you place him? I think he passes well in Russia and can fake Serbian too.

Croatia/ Serbia propably yes even though he gives me a Northeastern vibe. Outside of Scandinavia: Baltics best imo otherwise: Germany, Poland, Russia, Ukraine and Czechia- but i dont think its a very common look

[Harkonnen]

I don't know why people think this look is Chechen it's been posted several times, he has sharp med features especially his nose shape, whereas Chechens are usually softer iranic types. Ironically this guy's is probably quite west med shifted.

Caucasus is much much more robust than West Med. West Med might often look quite chiselled and sharp, I give you that. But there is big difference looking chiselled and being actually robust.

[FinalFlash]

Why are north Ossetians darker when they are the same genetically as Chechens? I noticed that too

That's because Ossetians aren't the same as Chechens genetically. Other than Tabasarans, Chechens have the highest amount of steppe admixture in the region.

Also, North Ossetians have a sizable amount of Iran_N ancestry while Chechens don't have much of it hence their disparities in phenotypes.

[Tauromachos]

I don't know why people think this look is Chechen it's been posted several times, he has sharp med features especially his nose shape, whereas Chechens are usually softer iranic types. Ironically this guy's is probably quite west med shifted.

I have seen Chechens and there is many people who look like him

They are often tall slander but strong and have sort of Dinaric type like face and they are not very dark i don't know what all of you think how they look like there is some exotic types with very distinct look but its not all of them by far

Chechens are white people basicly they were just isolated for so many centuries in particular from Europe thats why they don't cluster with any Europeans

[Harkonnen]

Chechen strength and toughness is legendary indeed.

[Ford]

I bet he can repel an invasion using nothing but a rocket launcher.

[FinalFlash]

Chechen strength and toughness is legendary indeed.

You're confusing Chechens with Dagestanis.

[Immanenz]

I have seen Chechens and there is many people who look like him

They are often tall slander but strong and have sort of robust Dinaric type like face and they are not very dark i don't know what all you think
how they look like there is some exotic types with very distinct look but its not all of them by far

Chechens are white people basicly they where just isolated for so many centuries in particular from Europe thats why they don't cluster with
any Europeans

Most of them look Mtebid though, even the lighter ones.

[Harkonnen]

Kurganoid type, CHG is alo expressed

Except Kurgans were dolicho and had smooth face. Kauko looks like Chechen mixed with Great Plains Native American.

[Immanenz]

Except Kurgans were dolicho and had smooth face. Kauko looks like Chechen mixed with Great Plains Native American.

Lol, not all of them were smooth faced- doubt that really

[Hulu]

Chechens are not swarthy ,alot of them even look more similar to some types of Albos actually,
in particular Ghegs

This guy for example fits in Chechnya like a glove
https://www.bosnjaci.net/foto/bugari1_big.jpg
He has even the right type of hat

I think it's the hat that confuses you. Look at his deep set eyes, that's a UP trait. Chechens are flat faced, like Greeks. Except you're darker.

https://static.themoscowtimes.com/image/article_1360/27/d5506ea1531140beb12cadbf5fe36df6.jpg

[Harkonnen]

Hulu,

Chechen eyes are notoriously deep set. When I look at Chechen eyes, its like looking down at bottomless well.

[Hulu]

Hulu,

Chechen eyes are notoriously deep set. When I look at Chechen eyes, its like looking down at bottomless well.

Flat as the Russian steppe

https://www.memri.org/sites/default/files/new_images/org/putin%20kadyrov.jpg

[Harkonnen]

Go to eye doktor.

[Hulu]

Go to eye doktor.

My deeps set eyes have a 20/20 vision. Even higher , the eye doctor told me.

[Roy]

No, I think he's very Finnish looking. He absolutely does not look like Chechens do, unless one is misled by his bigger than average nose for Finland.

[Harkonnen]

My deeps set eyes have a 20/20 vision. Even higher , the eye doctor told me.

Then something must be wrong in your understanding of anthropology.

[Hulu]

Then something must be wrong in your understanding of anthropology.


Sure

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-XHsAeRW3ns0/WWoopW9dgmI/AAAAAAAAVbE/YVfHqB5t6_Mt2_24k1DurlaCvNi_EaW1gCLcBGAs/s1600/sshot-428.png

[Hulu]

Chechens are not swarthy ,alot of them even look more similar to some types of Albos actually,
in particular Ghegs

This guy for example fits in Chechnya like a glove
https://www.bosnjaci.net/foto/bugari1_big.jpg
He has even the right type of hat

By the way, you sure he's Albanian, it says Bosnjaci / Bugari in your link

https://www.bosnjaci.net/foto/bugari1_big.jpg

[FinalFlash]

This guy would be mistaken for a Ruski in Chechnya lol

[Harkonnen]

Sure

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-XHsAeRW3ns0/WWoopW9dgmI/AAAAAAAAVbE/YVfHqB5t6_Mt2_24k1DurlaCvNi_EaW1gCLcBGAs/s1600/sshot-428.png

Good that we agree.

[Ylla]

Caucasus is much much more robust than West Med. West Med might often look quite chiselled and sharp, I give you that. But there is big difference looking chiselled and being actually robust.

Yeah I think so too, based on my casual reading around here I'm certainly no expert. But robust can mean different things some endomorph builds look robust simply due to high body fat.

[Harkonnen]

Yeah I think so too, based on my casual reading around here I'm certainly no expert. But robust can mean different things some endomorph builds look robust simply due to high body fat.

You mean their bodies look robust or high bodyfat could somehow make face look robsy?

[War Chef]

That's because Ossetians aren't the same as Chechens genetically. Other than Tabasarans, Chechens have the highest amount of steppe admixture in the region.

Also, North Ossetians have a sizable amount of Iran_N ancestry while Chechens don't have much of it hence their disparities in phenotypes.

Lol no all north Caucasians are very close to eachother genetically. Ofc Chechens and Lezgins have a bit more "north" admixture but just by a few % nothing big

[Tauromachos]

By the way, you sure he's Albanian, it says Bosnjaci / Bugari in your link

https://www.bosnjaci.net/foto/bugari1_big.jpg

Ok he is Bosnian then.
I thought he was a Gheg or Kosovar because when i googled for Gheg Dinarics that picture came up

Anyway he looks more Chechen then the Finnish Dude OP has posted by far

[Tauromachos]

I think it's the hat that confuses you. Look at his deep set eyes, that's a UP trait. Chechens are flat faced, like Greeks. Except you're darker.


I agree that Greeks in general might be even darker, Greeks and other South European have more Med influence in their phenos than Chechens for sure but if Greeks or South Euros are darker than them then even much more so West Asians people South of Caucasus are.
Chechens do not much look like West Asians in South Anatolia or the Levant.

To let you know the flat or pan face is considered to be more typical for Albanians than it is for Greeks,
either way i think there is alot of Sqiptars and Chechens who look similar.

Only that average Chechen alone as an individual seems much stronger and tougher than the average Albo
At least in MMA they often win the fights against others, Balkanians,Turks and so on, to say the truth

[CommonSense]

By the way, you sure he's Albanian, it says Bosnjaci / Bugari in your link

https://www.bosnjaci.net/foto/bugari1_big.jpg

Looking it up I found his name is Sulejman Bulgari. He's an Albanian from Orahovac (Rahovec), Kosovo, who's been in Bosnia since high school, became a prominent religious figure and is now assimilated among them.

[Tauromachos]

Looking it up I found his name is Sulejman Bulgari. He's an Albanian from Orahovac (Rahovec), Kosovo, who's been in Bosnia since high school, became a prominent religious figure and is now assimilated among them.

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