Classify Bjork's father Guðmundur Gunnarsson

[Centurion]

He seems to have Mongoloid admixture.


https://i.ytimg.com/vi/QHNbW5RXZNk/maxresdefault.jpghttps://alchetron.com/cdn/gumundur-gunnarsson-312d40f7-a205-4a81-b61f-59fce8f578d-resize-750.jpeghttps://stundin.is/media/authors/thumbs/Y1AY_X6W-ZDW_400x400_5z2SJ_3v.jpghttps://m2.mbl.is/NMIAUei70cBeQDZPc8Ry3PHE6jo=/fit-in/640x640/frimg/6/37/637756.jpghttps://cdn.mbl.is/frimg/5/61/561708.jpghttps://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-gcgFIokj0uI/AAAAAAAAAAI/AAAAAAAAADg/gl4wMYkGHpQ/il/photo.jpghttps://m2.mbl.is/VPOjLQ5hcgWLvcWw8THuXxw6dos=/320x480/smart/frimg/2/97/297771A.jpghttp://www.visir.is/i/C53147414881B2B9B2C67B8624BB7D7F0C251A700B0C16F09F 178D95F5FE3AC2_713x0.jpg

[Joso]

He seems to have Mongoloid admixture.


https://i.ytimg.com/vi/QHNbW5RXZNk/maxresdefault.jpghttps://alchetron.com/cdn/gumundur-gunnarsson-312d40f7-a205-4a81-b61f-59fce8f578d-resize-750.jpeghttps://stundin.is/media/authors/thumbs/Y1AY_X6W-ZDW_400x400_5z2SJ_3v.jpghttps://m2.mbl.is/NMIAUei70cBeQDZPc8Ry3PHE6jo=/fit-in/640x640/frimg/6/37/637756.jpghttps://cdn.mbl.is/frimg/5/61/561708.jpghttps://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-gcgFIokj0uI/AAAAAAAAAAI/AAAAAAAAADg/gl4wMYkGHpQ/il/photo.jpghttps://m2.mbl.is/VPOjLQ5hcgWLvcWw8THuXxw6dos=/320x480/smart/frimg/2/97/297771A.jpghttp://www.visir.is/i/C53147414881B2B9B2C67B8624BB7D7F0C251A700B0C16F09F 178D95F5FE3AC2_713x0.jpg

East baltid, looks like me and my father

[Cristiano viejo]

Very typical look for a Nort European.
Mongoloid, yes.

[Hadouken]

south sinid

[♥ Lily ♥]

I don't know what his classificiation is, but he looks wise. (He must be proud of his very successful and highly popular daughter and her lovely personality and beautiful soul, and her creative and artistic talents and beautiful singing voice.)

Even if a person had some Mongoloid in them, (which I'm not saying he has btw,) I wouldn't think any less of them, or sneer at their features, or look down on them as a human being. There's beautiful people in the far east too.

[Joso]

I don't know what his classificiation is, but he looks wise. (He must be proud of his very successful and highly popular daughter and her creative and artistic talents and beautiful singing voice.)

Even if a person had some Mongoloid in them, (which I'm not saying he has btw,) I wouldn't think any less of them, or sneer at their features, or look down on them as a human being. There's beautiful people in the far east too.

Agreed

[alicja]

He seems to have Mongoloid admixture.

Maybe Saami admixture? ;)

[Centurion]

Maybe Saami admixture? ;)


That's what I was thinking about.

[Valwar]

East Baltid mainly.

[Valwar]

Very typical look for a Nort European.
Mongoloid, yes.


No, that look is quite rare here.

[Cristiano viejo]

Maybe Saami admixture? ;)

It is proved that Amerindian women were brought to Iceland in the Viking era.

[Centurion]

It is proved that Amerindian women were brought to Iceland in the Viking era.

I have heard about this but I have never seen any further explanation. Do you have some articles or sources about this please?

[Cristiano viejo]

I have heard about this but I have never seen any further explanation. Do you have some articles or sources about this please?

http://www.dicat.csic.es/dicat/es/2010/394-el-primer-contacto-genetico-entre-europa-y-america-se-produjo-cinco-siglos-antes-de-la-llegada-de-colon

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/vikings-brought-amerindian-to-iceland-1000-years-ago-study-2140130.html

[Rgvgjhvv]

Maybe Saami admixture? ;)


That's what I was thinking about.

Sami have no connection with Iceland

[ogrossauro]

Khoisanid + Lappid

[Smeagol]

Sami have no connection with Iceland

Icelanders are descended from Norse, some of whom could have had Lapp blood.

[Rgvgjhvv]

Icelanders are descended from Norse, some of whom could have had Lapp blood.

Doubtful

[Cristiano viejo]

Doubtful

Why?
No that I support the idea that Mongoloid look in Iceland comes from Scandos with Lapp ancestry (as I have posted, this is due Amerindian women), but for sure many of these Vikings had Mongoloid ancestry as well.

[Dick]

I have heard about this but I have never seen any further explanation. Do you have some articles or sources about this please?


It is proved that Amerindian women were brought to Iceland in the Viking era.
Probably Inuit/eskimo females from Greenland and not from mainland North America



Although most mtDNA lineages observed in contemporary Icelanders can be traced to neighboring populations in the British Isles and Scandinavia, one may have a more distant origin. This lineage belongs to haplogroup C1, one of a handful that was involved in the settlement of the Americas around 14,000 years ago. Contrary to an initial assumption that this lineage was a recent arrival, preliminary genealogical analyses revealed that the C1 lineage was present in the Icelandic mtDNA pool at least 300 years ago. This raised the intriguing possibility that the Icelandic C1 lineage could be traced to Viking voyages to the Americas that commenced in the 10th century.


https://www.researchgate.net/publication/47743881_A_New_Subclade_of_mtDNA_Haplogroup_C1_Fou nd_in_Icelanders_Evidence_of_Pre-Columbian_Contact

[Centurion]

http://www.dicat.csic.es/dicat/es/2010/394-el-primer-contacto-genetico-entre-europa-y-america-se-produjo-cinco-siglos-antes-de-la-llegada-de-colon

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/vikings-brought-amerindian-to-iceland-1000-years-ago-study-2140130.html

Interesting, thank you.

[Finnish Swede]

Maybe Saami admixture? ;)

There aren't Saamis in Iceland.

[Grace O'Malley]

In some of his photos he looks a bit like Kyle Sandilands. :) Anyway if he was Irish he would just be classified as some type of Brunn. He looks like an Irishman I know.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/38/Kyle_Sandilands_2014.jpg/220px-Kyle_Sandilands_2014.jpg

https://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/8c553054eef14ccc9d1030b47d6e3a2d

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2018/02/16/01/4941F29900000578-5397965-image-a-57_1518743905191.jpg

[Grace O'Malley]

Icelanders are descended from Norse, some of whom could have had Lapp blood.

Genetics tests don't show any Lapp or Saami blood. They are basically just a Scandinavian/Gaelic mix which explains why those populations are the closest to them genetically.

[Grace O'Malley]

It is proved that Amerindian women were brought to Iceland in the Viking era.

It wasn't though. They were surmising this because of some mtdna C but later on it was found that the particular subclade isn't found in Amerindians.

Abstract
Although most mtDNA lineages observed in contemporary Icelanders can be traced to neighboring populations in the British Isles and Scandinavia, one may have a more distant origin. This lineage belongs to haplogroup C1, one of a handful that was involved in the settlement of the Americas around 14,000 years ago. Contrary to an initial assumption that this lineage was a recent arrival, preliminary genealogical analyses revealed that the C1 lineage was present in the Icelandic mtDNA pool at least 300 years ago. This raised the intriguing possibility that the Icelandic C1 lineage could be traced to Viking voyages to the Americas that commenced in the 10th century. In an attempt to shed further light on the entry date of the C1 lineage into the Icelandic mtDNA pool and its geographical origin, we used the deCODE Genetics genealogical database to identify additional matrilineal ancestors that carry the C1 lineage and then sequenced the complete mtDNA genome of 11 contemporary C1 carriers from four different matrilines. Our results indicate a latest possible arrival date in Iceland of just prior to 1700 and a likely arrival date centuries earlier. Most surprisingly, we demonstrate that the Icelandic C1 lineage does not belong to any of the four known Native American (C1b, C1c, and C1d) or Asian (C1a) subclades of haplogroup C1. Rather, it is presently the only known member of a new subclade, C1e. While a Native American origin seems most likely for C1e, an Asian or European origin cannot be ruled out.

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.1002/ajpa.21419

So there's no real proof that it came from an Amerindian woman brought to Iceland. Personally the chances of that are small IMO. Icelanders also cluster with Scandinavians and Isles populations and I doubt it is the cause for Bjork's pseudo-Mongoloid looks.

[FilhoV]

It wasn't though. They were surmising this because of some mtdna C but later on it was found that the particular subclade isn't found in Amerindians.

Abstract
Although most mtDNA lineages observed in contemporary Icelanders can be traced to neighboring populations in the British Isles and Scandinavia, one may have a more distant origin. This lineage belongs to haplogroup C1, one of a handful that was involved in the settlement of the Americas around 14,000 years ago. Contrary to an initial assumption that this lineage was a recent arrival, preliminary genealogical analyses revealed that the C1 lineage was present in the Icelandic mtDNA pool at least 300 years ago. This raised the intriguing possibility that the Icelandic C1 lineage could be traced to Viking voyages to the Americas that commenced in the 10th century. In an attempt to shed further light on the entry date of the C1 lineage into the Icelandic mtDNA pool and its geographical origin, we used the deCODE Genetics genealogical database to identify additional matrilineal ancestors that carry the C1 lineage and then sequenced the complete mtDNA genome of 11 contemporary C1 carriers from four different matrilines. Our results indicate a latest possible arrival date in Iceland of just prior to 1700 and a likely arrival date centuries earlier. Most surprisingly, we demonstrate that the Icelandic C1 lineage does not belong to any of the four known Native American (C1b, C1c, and C1d) or Asian (C1a) subclades of haplogroup C1. Rather, it is presently the only known member of a new subclade, C1e. While a Native American origin seems most likely for C1e, an Asian or European origin cannot be ruled out.

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.1002/ajpa.21419

So there's no real proof that it came from an Amerindian woman brought to Iceland. Personally the chances of that are small IMO. Icelanders also cluster with Scandinavians and Isles populations and I doubt it is the cause for Bjork's pseudo-Mongoloid looks.

Someone who knows what they’re talking about and actually studies the topic unlike some other people in this forum

Good post

[Grace O'Malley]

Someone who knows what they’re talking about and actually studies the topic unlike some other people in this forum

Good post

Thank you.

I've also found this.


While most of our samples possessed mtDNA haplotypes that can be linked to European and Near Eastern populations, three Neolithic and all three Bronze Age individuals belonged to mtDNA haplogroup C, which is common in East Eurasian, particularly South Siberian, populations but exceedingly rare in Europe. Phylogeographic network analysis revealed that our samples are located at or near the ancestral node for haplogroup C and that derived lineages branching from the Neolithic samples were present in Bronze Age Kurgans.

https://scholarworks.gvsu.edu/theses/5/

So mtdna C was found in ancient remains in the North Pontic region of present day Ukraine. So it really appears that the mtdna C in Iceland has a European origin which really is the most likely case.

[Jana]

Brunn with slanted eyes, nothing mongoloid about him. Easy fit in Isles and Denmark.

[Finnish Swede]

Genetics tests don't show any Lapp or Saami blood. They are basically just a Scandinavian/Gaelic mix which explains why those populations are the closest to them genetically.

Yup.


Plus I bet that some trolls here just don't ''know'' that the distance from Greenland to Iceland is bit shorter than the distance from Norway to Iceland...