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♥ Lily ♥
09-10-2018, 10:59 PM
From my original home county of Dorset, south-west England.

http://www.wessexmorrismen.co.uk/images/morris1.jpg
http://www.dorsetlife.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/514EdMorris1.jpg
https://www.publicdomainpictures.net/pictures/170000/velka/wessex-morris-men-with-dorset-ooser.jpg
https://c7.alamy.com/comp/ENAMH7/cerne-abbas-dorset-uk-1-may-2015-the-wessex-morris-men-celebrate-may-ENAMH7.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0qqvLBolM8

Tooting Carmen
09-10-2018, 11:21 PM
Borrebies and Brunns mostly.

Joso
09-10-2018, 11:24 PM
Bruenns mostly

Joso
09-10-2018, 11:35 PM
Borrebies and Brunns mostly.

I didn't see any borrebyes there, i just see bruenns and some alpines.

Joso
09-10-2018, 11:36 PM
From my original home county of Dorset, south-west England.

http://www.wessexmorrismen.co.uk/images/morris1.jpg
http://www.dorsetlife.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/514EdMorris1.jpg
https://www.publicdomainpictures.net/pictures/170000/velka/wessex-morris-men-with-dorset-ooser.jpg
https://c7.alamy.com/comp/ENAMH7/cerne-abbas-dorset-uk-1-may-2015-the-wessex-morris-men-celebrate-may-ENAMH7.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0qqvLBolM8


Does they have Irish ancestry?

♥ Lily ♥
09-11-2018, 12:00 AM
Does they have Irish ancestry?

I don't know their personal ancestry for each individual person, but I doubt it.

I have an Irish ancestor, but I don't see any history of large Irish settlement in Dorset.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dorset

Joso
09-11-2018, 12:05 AM
I don't know their personal ancestry for each individual person, but I doubt it.

Oh ok. :) Do yourself have any Irish ancestry?

♥ Lily ♥
09-11-2018, 12:11 AM
Oh ok. :) Do yourself have any Irish ancestry?

Yes, a bit from my maternal side. One of my maternal great great grandmothers (my maternal grandmother's paternal grandmother) was Western Irish (from Country Mayo.) So mathematically that's 1/16 Irish. The rest of my maternal and paternal ancestors are from Dorset and Somerset in the West Country (SW England) and I had a Welsh ancestor on my paternal side.

Joso
09-11-2018, 12:13 AM
Yes, a bit from my maternal side.

Is you mother from the same place as the guys of this thread? If yes, maybe they really have some Irish in them

♥ Lily ♥
09-11-2018, 12:24 AM
Is you mother from the same place as the guys of this thread? If yes, maybe they really have some Irish in them

Eh?! I sent a link in my previous post showing that Dorset doesn't have any history of much Irish settlement. My mother and father and grandparents are from Dorset (both maternal and paternal.) I was born and raised mostly in Dorset and most of my relatives still live there. I don't recollect meeting anyone in my schools or neighbourhoods there who said they had Irish ancestry, so I don't think it's that common as people from places such as Liverpool.

Just because my mother had 1 great grandmother from Co. Mayo, the rest of her great grandmothers and great grandfathers were from SW England. (So that's a very small amount of Irish ancestry.) Also, just because my mum had a single Irish ancestor, it doesn't mean that lots of people have moved to Dorset from Ireland.

I rarely heard Irish accents being spoken in Dorset (Irish immigrants are usually noticed by their accents,) although areas of Dorset have rhotic accents like the other West Country folk in Wiltshire, Somerset, Devon, Cornwall. Irish people have rhotic accents too and so do Canadians and Americans. It's mostly rural farmland in Dorset.... especially in western Dorset and inland Dorset. Most people in Dorset live on the eastern side of the county. https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?170911-Dorset-Southern-Coast-of-England

The landscape shares similarities with Ireland though... lots of ancient stone circles, Celtic sites, and also lots of countryside cottages. But apart from those similarities, I don't think Irish people have settled much in Dorset. Irish immigrants to the UK usually go to London or Liverpool.

♥ Lily ♥
09-11-2018, 12:30 AM
Is you mother from the same place as the guys of this thread? If yes, maybe they really have some Irish in them

What makes you think these English country folk men are Irish?! :icon_ask:

Here's some more people from the West Country of SW England:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BErF_KpU5fw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjTIFkWJctY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-T0kLlMl9Nk

I think something Dorset folk have in common with the Irish though... is a dislike of Cromwell.

Oliver Cromwell crushed the rebels in Dorset who rebelled against him and who sided with the King in England during the English Civil War between the roundheads and the cavaliers.

Oliver Cromwell caused a genocide of 1 million Irish people by scorching their potato fields and causing a Great Potato Famine in Eire. So the Irish dub Cromwell as 'Hitler'.

Irish people and their rebellious hearts...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60N3R455lHc

British and Irish people are very similar in features though, so I guess that's why you think they're Irish.

I think the south-west of England has more ancient native British blood than the east of England. The Angles, Saxons and Jutes pushed the Celts into the western fringes of England, and into Wales and Scotland and Ireland and the Isle of Man. (Legend has it that King Arthur won his greatest battle against the Saxons at Badbury Rings in Dorset.)

Maiden Castle in Dorset is Europe's largest hill fortress and it was built by Celts to keep out the Roman invaders.

A lot of the ancient stone circles such as Stonehenge are still carefully preserved in south-west England, along with the sacred ancient spiritual site of Glastonbury, etc.

A mass grave of beheaded Vikings was found in Dorset as the locals defended their land.

King Alfred the Great kept the Danes out of the south of England and Wales when England was divided into two kingdoms.

Rędwald
09-11-2018, 12:52 AM
Most of my English ancestry seems to come from the South West, but I have very little to no Irish DNA