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Mikula
09-11-2018, 08:18 AM
Does exists some system of symbols, clothing, slogans etc., for the clans of Albania
(like for example in Scottish clans)?

Kelmendasi
09-11-2018, 05:21 PM
From what I know they didn't have slogans but they did have symbols that they would use. The bajrak of Vukel which is part of the Kelmendi clan was said to have a banner depicting a man fighting a serpent. Snakes seem to have been a dominant theme in Albanian paganism as up until recently symbols of serpents and snakes were used. The clothing of the clans was basically like that of other northern Albanians but in the Malesia e madhe region the women still wore/wear the Xhubleta which seems to have declined in usage in other regions. The Albanians from these tribal regions also decorated graves with symbols and motiffs, this probably also happened in other Albanian regions during older times.

Symbols used:
https://proinformacion.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/1xh.png


Vuksanlekaj graves(old Albanian graves from the Hoti clan territory):
http://montenegro-for.me/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/Vuksanlekaj-cemetery3.jpg

http://montenegro-for.me/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/Vuksanlekaj-tombstone7.jpg

https://i.servimg.com/u/f58/12/42/55/59/15263710.jpg

Wrong
09-11-2018, 05:23 PM
From what I know they didn't have slogans but they did have symbols that they would use. The bajrak of Vukel which is part of the Kelmendi clan was said to have a banner depicting a man fighting a serpent. Snakes seem to have been a dominant theme in Albanian paganism as up until recently symbols of serpents and snakes were used. The clothing of the clans was basically like that of other northern Albanians but in the Malesia e madhe region the women still wore/wear the Xhubleta which seems to have declined in usage in other regions. The Albanians from these tribal regions also decorated graves with symbols and motiffs, this probably also happened in other Albanian regions during older times.

Symbols used:
https://proinformacion.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/1xh.png


Vuksanlekaj graves(old Albanian graves from the Hoti clan territory):
http://montenegro-for.me/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/Vuksanlekaj-cemetery3.jpg

http://montenegro-for.me/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/Vuksanlekaj-tombstone7.jpg

https://i.servimg.com/u/f58/12/42/55/59/15263710.jpg

The Hoti. Full J2b2 clan and Christian.

Kelmendasi
09-11-2018, 05:27 PM
The Hoti. Full J2b2 clan and Christian.
These graves were in fact made by the Anas of Hoti, or old Hoti as they are called by the new Hoti(descendants of Lazar Keqi, J2b2 carriers). The old Hoti that have tested are R1b-BY611, one from Vuksanlekaj has also tested as R1b-BY611.