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wvwvw
09-11-2018, 02:59 PM
Two years after the people of Switzerland overwhelmingly voted against establishing an "unconditional" Universal Basic Income (i.e. 'free money' for every man, woman and child in the country of roughly 8 million), one village has decided to go ahead with the experiment.

Per Bloomberg, the village of Rheinau, which is situated on the banks of the Rhine river roughly an hour's train ride from Zurich, is planning to hand out 2,500 francs ($2,750) a month to every inhabitant. But for the program to move forward, more than half of the village's residents had to say yes.

A village in Switzerland has decided to go ahead with an experiment on basic income, with a payout of 2,500 francs ($2,570) per month.

More than 50 percent of the inhabitants of Rheinau, close to the German border, signed up for the project, according to the organizers website. At least half the 1,300 inhabitants needed to say ‘yes,’ and the count stood at 692 on Monday.

And according to the most recent count, they have, according to the initiative's website (however, these figures still need to be checked against the village's voting records). Nearly 700 Rheinau residents (out of the village's population of 1,300) have signed up for the plan, which was organized by filmmaker Rebecca Panian. Panian ultimately hopes to make a documentary about the experiment (a film that, we imagine, will be among the most expensive documentaries ever produced). To be sure, the Rheinau plan will differ markedly from other UBI experiments in that earnings and government benefits will be deducted from individuals' payments, which should make the project exponentially easier to finance.

Rheinau (courtesy of Bloomberg)

Like other UBI "experiments," including one that began this year in Stockton, Calif., the money for the initiative must come from "private" sources (the village plans to launch a crowdfunding campaign to help finance the "experiment).

Given growing wealth inequality across the developed world, support for a UBI has increased dramatically in recent years, a phenomenon that analysts have also attributed to rising fears about the potential job-killing impact of automation. Tech executives including Elon Musk and Mark Zuckerberg have also publicly expressed support for a basic income, while several countries - including Finland, Canada, Kenya and the Netherlands - have launched experiments of their own. But unfortunately for everyone who dreams of one day living a life without the burden of work, the results of these experiments have been mixed: Finland recently abandoned its UBI pilot program after two years when the government rejected requests for additional funding.

But assuming Panian and the village's residents succeed in raising enough money for the payments (still a big if), the program's success is far from assured. As some economists have suggested, handing out free money to residents could spur unprecedented inflation, negating some or all of the program's benefits.

If this does come to pass, perhaps the international army of democratic socialists who have vociferously supported the program will realize that building a Marxist utopia is easier said than done.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-09-10/swiss-socialist-paradise-approves-universal-basic-income-2750-month

KMack
09-11-2018, 03:24 PM
Well if it is coming from private donations that is as far away from a socialist concept as possible.

Profileid
09-11-2018, 03:32 PM
Holy shit. That's more than twice what I make in a month.

Well if it is coming from private donations that is as far away from a socialist concept as possible.
You don't need a government for socialism. In fact, Marx theorized one day the state would wither away and you would have something like this.

gıulıoımpa
09-11-2018, 03:34 PM
in fact it is only possible to do that if you are an entity that knows exactly who is in and who gets in.

KMack
09-11-2018, 03:39 PM
Looks like all of it was set up by a film maker to do a documentary.

alnortedelsur
09-11-2018, 04:13 PM
This would only work for a society of ALL hardworking people. Therefore, this should only be applied to ethnic Swiss living in Switzerland, and in addition to some few HARDWORKING non-Swiss ETHNIC EURO or Euro-descent immigrants, and they should close their borders to any third world parasitic scum willing to take advantage of this.

StonyArabia
09-12-2018, 09:00 AM
This would only work for a society of ALL hardworking people. Therefore, this should only be applied to ethnic Swiss living in Switzerland, and in addition to some few HARDWORKING non-Swiss ETHNIC EURO or Euro-descent immigrants, and they should close their borders to any third world parasitic scum willing to take advantage of this.

Including Latinos :rolleyes:

WilliamA
09-12-2018, 09:24 AM
Stupid idea doomed to failure.

alnortedelsur
09-12-2018, 02:32 PM
Including Latinos :rolleyes:

No Latinos like me.

Óttar
09-12-2018, 02:39 PM
UBI lifts all boats. We live in a post-scarcity society. There is no reason for anyone to starve. Period. :thumb001: