Balkan Turk HarappaWorld Results

[canadienne]

Is this results normal for Balkan Turks?
My ancestry came from Thessaloniki & Drama, Greece (Balkan Turk) Karnobat, Bulgaria (I think Pomak) and Dibër, Albania (Albanian)

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 29.88
2 NE-Euro 22.94
3 Mediterranean 19.24
4 Baloch 11.74
5 SW-Asian 9.81
6 Siberian 3.39
7 NE-Asian 1.17

Using 1 population approximation:
1 ashkenazi_harappa @ 10.837640
2 ashkenazy-jew_behar @ 12.662591
3 turk-aydin_hodoglugil @ 13.852920
4 tuscan_1000genomes @ 14.926493
5 tuscan_hgdp @ 15.367649
6 bulgarian_yunusbayev @ 15.671809
7 tuscan_hapmap @ 16.035082
8 romanian-a_behar @ 16.422594
9 sephardic-jew_behar @ 19.617414
10 morocco-jew_behar @ 21.046984
11 turk-istanbul_hodoglugil @ 21.846483
12 serbian_harappa @ 22.134966
13 italian_hgdp @ 22.271885
14 nogai_yunusbayev @ 22.726662
15 turk-kayseri_hodoglugil @ 23.126450
16 stalskoe_xing @ 23.959618
17 turk_behar @ 24.263466
18 romanian-b_behar @ 24.684284
19 turkish_harappa @ 24.762695
20 north-ossetian_harappa @ 25.837994

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% french_hgdp +50% georgia-jew_behar @ 4.951210


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% bulgarian_yunusbayev +25% morocco-jew_behar +25% turkmen_yunusbayev @ 2.865384


Using 4 populations approximation:
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1 ashkenazy-jew_behar + turk-aydin_hodoglugil + turkish_harappa + utahn-white_hapmap @ 2.052567
2 ashkenazi_harappa + turk-aydin_hodoglugil + turkish_harappa + utahn-white_hapmap @ 2.106968
3 assyrian_harappa + chuvash_behar + cypriot_behar + spaniard_behar @ 2.117125
4 ashkenazy-jew_behar + n-european_xing + turk-aydin_hodoglugil + turkish_harappa @ 2.141796
5 ashkenazi_harappa + orcadian_hgdp + turk-aydin_hodoglugil + uzbekistan-jew_behar @ 2.148099
6 chuvash_behar + georgian_harappa + samaritian_behar + spain-basc_henn2012 @ 2.188051
7 ashkenazi_harappa + turk-aydin_hodoglugil + turkish_harappa + utahn-white_1000genomes @ 2.205637
8 ashkenazi_harappa + n-european_xing + turk-aydin_hodoglugil + turkish_harappa @ 2.226991
9 french_hgdp + iraqi-mandaean_harappa + romanian-a_behar + turk-aydin_hodoglugil @ 2.234467
10 ashkenazy-jew_behar + orcadian_hgdp + turk_behar + turk-aydin_hodoglugil @ 2.264928
11 ashkenazy-jew_behar + orcadian_hgdp + turk-aydin_hodoglugil + turk-kayseri_hodoglugil @ 2.271315
12 armenian_harappa + ashkenazi_harappa + orcadian_hgdp + turk-aydin_hodoglugil @ 2.281716
13 ashkenazi_harappa + turk-aydin_hodoglugil + utahn-white_hapmap + uzbekistan-jew_behar @ 2.286201
14 ashkenazy-jew_behar + orcadian_hgdp + turk-aydin_hodoglugil + turkish_harappa @ 2.295817
15 ashkenazi_harappa + british_1000genomes + turk-aydin_hodoglugil + uzbekistan-jew_behar @ 2.306024
16 ashkenazi_harappa + british_1000genomes + turk-aydin_hodoglugil + turkish_harappa @ 2.313223
17 ashkenazy-jew_behar + turk-aydin_hodoglugil + turk-kayseri_hodoglugil + utahn-white_hapmap @ 2.313934
18 basque_hgdp + chuvash_behar + georgian_harappa + samaritian_behar @ 2.342174
19 ashkenazy-jew_behar + azeri_harappa + orcadian_hgdp + turk-aydin_hodoglugil @ 2.342503
20 ashkenazy-jew_behar + turk-aydin_hodoglugil + turkish_harappa + utahn-white_1000genomes @ 2.356663

[canadienne]

Also here is my Gedrosia K12 results;

S_INDIAN -
SUB_SAHARAN -
EARLY_EUROPEAN_FARMERS 29.33
SW_ASIAN 14.35
W_SIBERIAN 1.57
SE_ASIAN 3.19
BALOCHI 7.65
SINTASHTA_STEPPE_HERDERS 17.52
INDO_TIBETAN 0.58
CAUCASUS 25.80
E_AFRICAN -
E_SIBERIAN -

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Greek @ 11.351213
2 Sicilian @ 13.021329
3 Turks_Istanbul @ 13.049238
4 Turks_Aydin @ 16.738390
5 Turks_Balikesir @ 19.430681
6 Turks_Adana @ 21.441971
7 Turks_Kayseri @ 22.455729
8 Kurds_N @ 22.880829
9 Iraqi_Chaldeans @ 23.600933
10 Kurds_C @ 23.941360
11 Iraqi_Arab_Baghdad @ 24.745152
12 Iraqi_Jew @ 24.940369
13 Kurds_F @ 25.353836
14 Kurds_E @ 26.322886
15 Iraqi_Mandaeans @ 26.731647
16 Armenian @ 27.392260
17 Assyrian @ 28.677351
18 Iranian @ 31.522446
19 Turkmen_Afghan @ 31.799742
20 Jordanian @ 32.324951

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Greek +50% Turks_Istanbul @ 7.026161


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Greek +25% Sicilian +25% Uzbek_Afghan @ 3.937255


Using 4 populations approximation:
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1 Iraqi_Mandaeans + Norwegian + Sicilian + Turks_Aydin @ 3.823127
2 Iraqi_Mandaeans + Norwegian + Sicilian + Turks_Balikesir @ 3.829822
3 Iraqi_Chaldeans + Norwegian + Sicilian + Turks_Kayseri @ 3.846189
4 Iraqi_Jew + Norwegian + Sicilian + Turks_Aydin @ 3.910971
5 Iraqi_Jew + Norwegian + Sicilian + Turks_Kayseri @ 3.911562
6 Greek + Greek + Sicilian + Uzbek_Afghan @ 3.937255
7 Kurds_N + Norwegian + Sicilian + Turks_Kayseri @ 3.954752
8 Iraqi_Mandaeans + Norwegian + Sicilian + Turks_Kayseri @ 3.967553
9 Norwegian + Sicilian + Turks_Adana + Turks_Kayseri @ 4.012049
10 Iraqi_Jew + Norwegian + Sicilian + Turks_Balikesir @ 4.021305
11 Iraqi_Chaldeans + Norwegian + Sicilian + Turks_Aydin @ 4.043620
12 Assyrian + Norwegian + Sicilian + Turks_Aydin @ 4.044682
13 Greek + Iraqi_Jew + Norwegian + Turks_Kayseri @ 4.071685
14 Iraqi_Arab_Baghdad + Norwegian + Sicilian + Turks_Kayseri @ 4.095962
15 Iraqi_Mandaeans + Norwegian + Sicilian + Turks_Istanbul @ 4.097117
16 Norwegian + Sicilian + Turks_Adana + Turks_Adana @ 4.098168
17 Assyrian + Norwegian + Sicilian + Turks_Istanbul @ 4.129213
18 Greek + Iraqi_Mandaeans + Norwegian + Turks_Kayseri @ 4.205755
19 Iraqi_Jew + Norwegian + Sicilian + Turks_Istanbul @ 4.208661
20 Kurds_E + Norwegian + Sicilian + Turks_Kayseri @ 4.242126

[canadienne]

And how i know how many balkan genes i have? Am i mostly Balkan people or Turkic people?

Here is my Eurogenes K36 report;

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1fqx39zggyT0RPaeux0QS5MzuySKWvjGX/view?usp=drivesdk

[yonkov]

You are closer to Turks, and very south-eastern shifted one. If you ever had ancestors from Balkans, they were probably from southern Balkans, but most of your ancestors are probably from Turkey/Levant or Middle east.

[canadienne]

You are closer to Turks, and very south-eastern shifted one. If you ever had ancestors from Balkans, they were probably from southern Balkans, but most of your ancestors are probably from Turkey/Levant or Middle east.

i think it's 50/50 but i don't know. my ancestors came from southern balkans & anatolian turks. can you please see my other results in gedmatch? T337705 ------> here is my kit number.

[yonkov]

i think it's 50/50 but i don't know. my ancestors came from southern balkans & anatolian turks. can you please see my other results in gedmatch? T337705 ------> here is my kit number.

Yeah I can see you are pretty much balanced probably Greek + Anatolian

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Greek_Central @ 8.721921
2 Greek_Thessaly @ 9.784205
3 Albanian @ 9.935418
4 Kosovar @ 10.678016
5 Italian_Abruzzo @ 11.850048
6 Bulgarian @ 12.601794
7 Ashkenazy_Jew @ 12.699630
8 Italian_Tuscan @ 13.376106
9 Romanian @ 13.412368
10 Macedonian @ 13.694102
11 Italian_Sicilian @ 14.193666
12 Montenegrin @ 15.197268
13 Turkish_Aydin @ 15.949079
14 Sephardic_Jew @ 16.935516
15 Turkish @ 17.170637
16 Serbian @ 17.780037
17 Kumyk @ 18.796375
18 Balkar @ 19.121195
19 Italian_Bergamo @ 19.178347
20 Turkish_Kayseri @ 20.388584

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Using 1 population approximation:
1 Turkish_Aydin @ 9.116609
2 Ashkenazi_Jew @ 10.922577
3 Greek @ 11.840514
4 Sicilian_East @ 12.680020
5 Bulgarian @ 12.731713
6 Albanian @ 12.753628
7 Sicilian_West @ 13.241659
8 Tuscan @ 14.396910
9 Turkish @ 14.795175
10 Turkish_Kayseri @ 18.257256
11 Kurdish @ 18.895525
12 Nogai @ 19.259590
13 Croatian @ 19.689137
14 Moroccan_Jew @ 19.821283
15 Lebanese @ 19.963934
16 Kumyk @ 20.089300
17 Turkish_Jew @ 20.394249
18 Cypriot @ 20.441078
19 Assyrian @ 20.709101
20 Romanian @ 20.893120

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Assyrian +50% Croatian @ 4.042962

[Ritz06]

You can compare your results with mine:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 NE-Euro 30.44
2 Caucasian 24.42
3 Mediterranean 18.08
4 Baloch 16.52
5 SW-Asian 4.89
6 NE-Asian 3.54
7 Beringian 1.16
8 S-Indian 0.95

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 romanian-a (behar) 12.21
2 bulgarian (yunusbayev) 12.95
3 tuscan (1000genomes) 18.52
4 tuscan (hgdp) 18.56
5 tuscan (hapmap) 18.91
6 ashkenazi (harappa) 19.48
7 italian (hgdp) 21.13
8 turk-aydin (hodoglugil) 21.14
9 ashkenazy-jew (behar) 21.68
10 hungarian (behar) 21.87
11 slovenian (xing) 23.15
12 stalskoe (xing) 23.19
13 nogai (yunusbayev) 23.74
14 romanian-b (behar) 24.85
15 tajik (yunusbayev) 25.14
16 french (hgdp) 25.6
17 turkmen (yunusbayev) 26.43
18 turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) 27.04
19 urkarah (xing) 27.1
20 sephardic-jew (behar) 28.01

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 51.7% azeri (harappa) + 48.3% orcadian (hgdp) @ 3.6
2 53.6% n-european (xing) + 46.4% kurd (yunusbayev) @ 3.63
3 52.2% n-european (xing) + 47.8% iranian (harappa) @ 3.76
4 52.8% utahn-white (hapmap) + 47.2% kurd (yunusbayev) @ 3.84
5 68.2% romanian-a (behar) + 31.8% tajik (yunusbayev) @ 3.86
6 59.5% hungarian (behar) + 40.5% iranian (harappa) @ 3.9
7 51.1% utahn-white (1000genomes) + 48.9% azeri (harappa) @ 4.04
8 50.2% azeri (harappa) + 49.8% british (1000genomes) @ 4.05
9 80.3% bulgarian (yunusbayev) + 19.7% brahui (hgdp) @ 4.06
10 54.1% n-european (xing) + 45.9% kurd (xing) @ 4.07
11 51.4% utahn-white (hapmap) + 48.6% iranian (harappa) @ 4.09
12 51.3% n-european (xing) + 48.7% azeri (harappa) @ 4.17
13 53.4% utahn-white (1000genomes) + 46.6% kurd (yunusbayev) @ 4.19
14 52.4% n-european (xing) + 47.6% kurd (harappa) @ 4.22
15 81.4% romanian-a (behar) + 18.6% brahui (hgdp) @ 4.22
16 80.6% romanian-a (behar) + 19.4% makrani (hgdp) @ 4.26
17 67% bulgarian (yunusbayev) + 33% tajik (yunusbayev) @ 4.28
18 50.4% turkish (harappa) + 49.6% utahn-white (hapmap) @ 4.28
19 79.5% bulgarian (yunusbayev) + 20.5% balochi (hgdp) @ 4.33
20 55% turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) + 45% orcadian (hgdp) @ 4.34

I have more NE-Asian than you, and beringian instead of Siberian.

[canadienne]

You can compare your results with mine:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 NE-Euro 30.44
2 Caucasian 24.42
3 Mediterranean 18.08
4 Baloch 16.52
5 SW-Asian 4.89
6 NE-Asian 3.54
7 Beringian 1.16
8 S-Indian 0.95

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 romanian-a (behar) 12.21
2 bulgarian (yunusbayev) 12.95
3 tuscan (1000genomes) 18.52
4 tuscan (hgdp) 18.56
5 tuscan (hapmap) 18.91
6 ashkenazi (harappa) 19.48
7 italian (hgdp) 21.13
8 turk-aydin (hodoglugil) 21.14
9 ashkenazy-jew (behar) 21.68
10 hungarian (behar) 21.87
11 slovenian (xing) 23.15
12 stalskoe (xing) 23.19
13 nogai (yunusbayev) 23.74
14 romanian-b (behar) 24.85
15 tajik (yunusbayev) 25.14
16 french (hgdp) 25.6
17 turkmen (yunusbayev) 26.43
18 turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) 27.04
19 urkarah (xing) 27.1
20 sephardic-jew (behar) 28.01

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 51.7% azeri (harappa) + 48.3% orcadian (hgdp) @ 3.6
2 53.6% n-european (xing) + 46.4% kurd (yunusbayev) @ 3.63
3 52.2% n-european (xing) + 47.8% iranian (harappa) @ 3.76
4 52.8% utahn-white (hapmap) + 47.2% kurd (yunusbayev) @ 3.84
5 68.2% romanian-a (behar) + 31.8% tajik (yunusbayev) @ 3.86
6 59.5% hungarian (behar) + 40.5% iranian (harappa) @ 3.9
7 51.1% utahn-white (1000genomes) + 48.9% azeri (harappa) @ 4.04
8 50.2% azeri (harappa) + 49.8% british (1000genomes) @ 4.05
9 80.3% bulgarian (yunusbayev) + 19.7% brahui (hgdp) @ 4.06
10 54.1% n-european (xing) + 45.9% kurd (xing) @ 4.07
11 51.4% utahn-white (hapmap) + 48.6% iranian (harappa) @ 4.09
12 51.3% n-european (xing) + 48.7% azeri (harappa) @ 4.17
13 53.4% utahn-white (1000genomes) + 46.6% kurd (yunusbayev) @ 4.19
14 52.4% n-european (xing) + 47.6% kurd (harappa) @ 4.22
15 81.4% romanian-a (behar) + 18.6% brahui (hgdp) @ 4.22
16 80.6% romanian-a (behar) + 19.4% makrani (hgdp) @ 4.26
17 67% bulgarian (yunusbayev) + 33% tajik (yunusbayev) @ 4.28
18 50.4% turkish (harappa) + 49.6% utahn-white (hapmap) @ 4.28
19 79.5% bulgarian (yunusbayev) + 20.5% balochi (hgdp) @ 4.33
20 55% turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) + 45% orcadian (hgdp) @ 4.34

I have more NE-Asian than you, and beringian instead of Siberian.

i compare but i don't understand. am i have balkan&turkic ancestry?

[Leto]

You can compare your results with mine:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 NE-Euro 30.44
2 Caucasian 24.42
3 Mediterranean 18.08
4 Baloch 16.52
5 SW-Asian 4.89
6 NE-Asian 3.54
7 Beringian 1.16
8 S-Indian 0.95

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 romanian-a (behar) 12.21
2 bulgarian (yunusbayev) 12.95
3 tuscan (1000genomes) 18.52
4 tuscan (hgdp) 18.56
5 tuscan (hapmap) 18.91
6 ashkenazi (harappa) 19.48
7 italian (hgdp) 21.13
8 turk-aydin (hodoglugil) 21.14
9 ashkenazy-jew (behar) 21.68
10 hungarian (behar) 21.87
11 slovenian (xing) 23.15
12 stalskoe (xing) 23.19
13 nogai (yunusbayev) 23.74
14 romanian-b (behar) 24.85
15 tajik (yunusbayev) 25.14
16 french (hgdp) 25.6
17 turkmen (yunusbayev) 26.43
18 turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) 27.04
19 urkarah (xing) 27.1
20 sephardic-jew (behar) 28.01

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 51.7% azeri (harappa) + 48.3% orcadian (hgdp) @ 3.6
2 53.6% n-european (xing) + 46.4% kurd (yunusbayev) @ 3.63
3 52.2% n-european (xing) + 47.8% iranian (harappa) @ 3.76
4 52.8% utahn-white (hapmap) + 47.2% kurd (yunusbayev) @ 3.84
5 68.2% romanian-a (behar) + 31.8% tajik (yunusbayev) @ 3.86
6 59.5% hungarian (behar) + 40.5% iranian (harappa) @ 3.9
7 51.1% utahn-white (1000genomes) + 48.9% azeri (harappa) @ 4.04
8 50.2% azeri (harappa) + 49.8% british (1000genomes) @ 4.05
9 80.3% bulgarian (yunusbayev) + 19.7% brahui (hgdp) @ 4.06
10 54.1% n-european (xing) + 45.9% kurd (xing) @ 4.07
11 51.4% utahn-white (hapmap) + 48.6% iranian (harappa) @ 4.09
12 51.3% n-european (xing) + 48.7% azeri (harappa) @ 4.17
13 53.4% utahn-white (1000genomes) + 46.6% kurd (yunusbayev) @ 4.19
14 52.4% n-european (xing) + 47.6% kurd (harappa) @ 4.22
15 81.4% romanian-a (behar) + 18.6% brahui (hgdp) @ 4.22
16 80.6% romanian-a (behar) + 19.4% makrani (hgdp) @ 4.26
17 67% bulgarian (yunusbayev) + 33% tajik (yunusbayev) @ 4.28
18 50.4% turkish (harappa) + 49.6% utahn-white (hapmap) @ 4.28
19 79.5% bulgarian (yunusbayev) + 20.5% balochi (hgdp) @ 4.33
20 55% turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) + 45% orcadian (hgdp) @ 4.34

I have more NE-Asian than you, and beringian instead of Siberian.
You've got a cool-ass composition. Do you look similar to Adrian Pasdar? He is half Persian, half Russian-German. I consider him white by the way
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/transformersprime/images/3/38/Adrian_Pasdar.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20170415195929

[canadienne]

You've got a cool-ass composition. Do you look similar to Adrian Pasdar? He is half Persian, half Russian-German. I consider him white by the way
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/transformersprime/images/3/38/Adrian_Pasdar.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20170415195929

flying man!

[canadienne]

i have a 2 question.
am i have a caucasian (armenian, georgian, ossetian, azerbaijan turk, circassian, chechen) ancestry?

and also am i have a russian or ukranian ancestry?

[Kaspias]

i have a 2 question.
am i have a caucasian (armenian, georgian, ossetian, azerbaijan turk, circassian, chechen) ancestry?

and also am i have a russian or ukranian ancestry?

You don't have.


Balkan Turks came Balkans between 1400s and 1700s. At first times of Balkan migration, only men migrated to Balkans. They married with native Balkan people, such as South Slavs and Greeks, Albanians. After 1-2 generation, they formed a new ethnic-culture named as Balkan Turks. They didn't mix anymore and they just married with Balkan Turks.

So, your results like 50% Anatolian Turk and 50% Greek. This means your ancestors married with Greeks in that time period. Also as you stated, you have albanian ancestor as well.

I think this response will clear all of your questions.

[Mr. Anybody]

You don't have.


Balkan Turks came Balkans between 1400s and 1700s. At first times of Balkan migration, only men migrated to Balkans. They married with native Balkan people, such as South Slavs and Greeks, Albanians. After 1-2 generation, they formed a new ethnic-culture named as Balkan Turks. They didn't mix anymore and they just married with Balkan Turks.
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do not forget the germans,russıans,pols,serbıans who ıintermix to them.
today, researchs shows that haplo I is represent %5 -7 of rep of tur. total populatıon.

[Kaspias]

do not forget the germans,russıans,pols,serbıans who ıintermix to them.
today, researchs shows that haplo I is represent %5 -7 of rep of tur. total populatıon.

Yes, i agree.

[Mr. Anybody]

Yes, i agree.

ı wısh they agreed