PDA

View Full Version : CANZUK: after Brexit, Canada, Australia, New Zealand and Britain can unite as a pillar of Western ci



♥ Lily ♥
09-15-2018, 08:08 PM
CANZUK: after Brexit, Canada, Australia, New Zealand and Britain can unite as a pillar of Western civilisation

Andrew Roberts

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/news/2016/09/03/John_Bull_apples_trans_NvBQzQNjv4Bql_4wpTcSvaWmzK0 bf-kHJwu0OTE6emuT7vgO5Msoj1w.jpg?imwidth=450
Britain shares history and culture with Canada, Australia and New Zealand

Of all the many splendid opportunities provided by the British people’s heroic Brexit vote, perhaps the greatest is the resuscitation of the idea of a CANZUK Union. Winston Churchill’s great dream of a Western alliance based on three separate blocs might one day live again, thanks to Brexit. The first and second blocs – the USA and a United State of Europe – are already in place. Now it is time for the last – CANZUK – to retake her place as the third pillar of Western Civilization.

The Crown countries of Canada, Australia, New Zealand and the United Kingdom (CANZUK) need to form a new federation based upon free trade, free movement of peoples, mutual defence, and a limited but effective confederal political structure.

As one of the leaders of the nascent CANZUK project, James Bennett, points out in his new book A Time For Audacity: New Options Beyond Europe: “In the era of the internet and cheap global air travel, common language, law, history and traditions of government count far more than geographical proximity.”

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/news/2016/04/22/51415912_FILES_An_undated_file_picture_of_WinstFIL ES_An_undated_file_picture_of_Winston_Churchill_ma _trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqZgEkZX3M936N5BQK4Va8RWtT0gK_6Ef ZT336f62EI5U.jpg?imwidth=480
Churchill believed CANZUK could be a pillar of civilisation

Much more unites than divides the CANZUK countries, and were it to become a Union it immediately become one of the global great powers alongside America, the EU and China. It would be easily the largest country on the planet, have a combined population of 129 million, the third biggest economy and the third biggest defence budget.

A movement towards such an entity is already beginning, with 160,000 people signing a petition for free CANZUK movement of peoples on www.cfmo.org within a few months. CANZUK free movement brings an immediate benefit to ordinary Britons, with effective reciprocity in the form of employment, business, and retirement opportunities that ordinary Britons can enjoy, as opposed to the mostly theoretical benefits that the EU brought.

Unlike EU free movement, CANZUK would provide not only the right to take a job in a member state, but in one where there actually are real jobs available.

The proposed CANZUK Union will be more like the successful federations the English-speaking world has known, such as the Canada and Australia. Those differed from the EU in that they had the prerequisites for forming a parliament and government that could exercise control over their bureaucracies, as opposed to the uncontrollable quangos of Brussels.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/news/2016/09/05/aaa_107568105_epa05524786_British_Prime_Minister_T heresa_May_2-R_meets_Australian_Prime_Minister_Malcolm_trans_Nv BQzQNjv4BqZgEkZX3M936N5BQK4Va8RQJ6Ra64K3tAxfZq0dvI BJw.jpg?imwidth=480Britain and Australia are talking about trade

Australia’s former foreign minister Julie Bishop has said that a free-trade deal with post-Brexit Britain could lead to “improved access” and more visas for travel between Australia and Britain. There is similar support in New Zealand and Canada.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/news/2016/08/25/106754446_Prince-William-Kate-Young-Minds-NEWS_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqqVzuuqpFlyLIwiB6NTmJwfSVWeZ _vEN7c6bHu2jJnT8.jpg?imwidth=480

But this should be just the beginning. Now that Britain is free of the EU, she can pursue the dream of early 20th century giants such as Joseph Chamberlain – incidentally, Theresa May’s political hero – for an Anglospheric combination of free states that would project a strong and independent voice in the world.

The CANZUK Union of free trade and free movement should be the nucleus for the recreation of the dream of the English-speaking peoples that was shattered by Britain’s entry into the EU. We must pick up where we left off in 1973.

"We must pick up where we left off in 1973."

Sir Roger Scruton’s famous dictum that “A nation-state is the widest span at which it is possible to be meaningfully good” can be inverted with no loss of truth, for if there are a set a peoples who effectively share an idea of what public good is, then they will probably be candidates for a state, at least a federal one.

We CANZUK countries together have far more of the potential for successful state-building than do any four member-states of the EU. A common head of state, a majority language, legal systems based on Magna Cara and the common law, Westminster parliamentary tradition, military structure, and a long history of working together including in the proudest voluntary military collaboration in human history, resisting Nazi aggression.

All we lack is geographical proximity, which is becoming less and less important in the modern world. CANZUK is an idea whose time has, thanks to Brexit, finally come again.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/09/13/canzuk-after-brexit-canada-australia-new-zealand-and-britain-can/

Prof Andrew Roberts is Chairman of the Advisory Board of the CANZUK Union Institutes. Details of the Canzuk Union can be found here. https://www.canzuk.co.uk

♥ Lily ♥
09-15-2018, 08:08 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LngTmk8ifzc

♥ Lily ♥
09-15-2018, 08:09 PM
Friends reunited.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SxKUAMCw5Q

♥ Lily ♥
09-15-2018, 08:09 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-Te-W_ZJCY

♥ Lily ♥
09-15-2018, 08:13 PM
In a UK nationwide survey prior to the Brexit referendum, British people were asked which alliances meant the most to them. People rated the Anglosphere alliance, the Commonwealth Realm alliance, the powerful G7 nations alliance, the UN, NATO, etc, as being the most important alliances to the U.K... and the EU ranked as our least important alliance.

The Queen is also the head of state in Canada, Australia and New Zealand, which share similar royal militaries and navies and air forces in those nations too.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=we1PaS97bps

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wffqnlcRI8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZO_RS1OnjM

Ruggery
09-15-2018, 08:14 PM
There is already the Anglo alliance and it's called commonwealth.

Dragoon
09-15-2018, 08:15 PM
CANZUK refers to the personal union and the proposal for increased ties between the nations of Canada, Australia, New Zealand and the United Kingdom. These include increased trade, foreign policy co-operation and mobility of citizens between the four nations.


Australia

In August 2017, Liberal Senator for Victoria, James Paterson, published an opinion-piece in the Australian Financial Review declaring support for CANZUK free trade and free movement, stating "With Australia, New Zealand, and Canada all lining up to sign post-Brexit trade agreements with the UK, we have an opportunity to push for a wide-ranging agreement between all four Commonwealth nations...It's an idea whose time has come."[28]

Canada

In February 2017, Canadian Member of Parliament Erin O'Toole adopted CANZUK free trade and free movement as part of his campaign platform for leader of the Canadian Conservative Party.
In March 2017, the leader of the Conservative Party of Canada Andrew Scheer stated his support for a CANZUK free trade deal at a leadership debate ...
The main opposition party of Canada, the Conservative Party, adopted CANZUK as official party policy at their 2018 party convention by 215 votes to 7.

NZ

In April 2018 Simon Bridges MP, Opposition leader in New Zealand, announced his support for CANZUK.[36]


Public Opinion

2018

Opinion polling of 13,600 respondents from Canada, Australia, New Zealand and the United Kingdom conducted between January and March 2018 found increased support for reciprocal free trade and movement between the countries when compared to 2017, with support at 68% in the UK (up 4%); 73% in Australia (up 1%); 76% in Canada (down 1%) and 82% in New Zealand (up 1%).[47] The opinion polling indicated greater support for the proposals in the North and South Islands of New Zealand at 83% and 81% support respectively; British Columbia and Ontario in Canada at 82% and 80% support respectively; and New South Wales and Victoria in Australia at 79% support each, while lesser support was observed in the province of Quebec in Canada at 63% support; Northern Ireland and Scotland in the UK at 64% and 66% support respectively; and Western Australia at 65% support.[48]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CANZUK

Dragoon
09-15-2018, 08:16 PM
Maybe Ireland and Scotland get their independence.
Then instead of EU they join this thing. Possible or not?

♥ Lily ♥
09-15-2018, 08:19 PM
The Commonwealth nations also have our own Commonwealth games with opening ceremonies, etc, like with the Olympics.

Opening ceremony in Australia.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LCPoqCLIVI

Commonwealth Games opening ceremony in India.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuUR8lR50Yk

Opening ceremony in Scotland hosting the Commonwealth Games.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQ-BPjDBpBQ

♥ Lily ♥
09-15-2018, 08:20 PM
Maybe Ireland and Scotland get their independence.
Then instead of EU they join this thing. Possible or not?

They want to stay in the EUSSR;- that isn't independence remaining governed by foreign unelected eurocrats in Brussels.

Well the Irish voted no to the Lisbon Treaty, but the EU dictators rejected their no vote and forced the Irish to have a revote - until they suddenly changed their iniital no vote to a yes vote to suit the Eurocratic dictators in Brussels.

UKIP arrived in the EU with placards and were forced to take them down. The UK people weren't even allowed to have a vote or say on the Lisbon Treaty. Unelected former UK leader Scottish Gordon Brown signed it.... and he deliberately turned-up late at the EU and made everyone else in Europe wait for him, before going on to demand the Irish to have a revote, and putting Iceland on the list of international terrorists. (He must be the most arrogant and unpopular PM ever.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6QmH-7fu68

The Northern Irish and Scots voted to UK Independence and they voted to remain in the EUSSR dictatorship during the Brexit referendum. The independence votes were mostly from Welsh and English voters.

Catarinense1998
09-15-2018, 08:21 PM
Interesting. Lily, do you agree with BREXIT?

Dragoon
09-15-2018, 08:28 PM
They want to stay in the EUSSR;- that isn't independence remaining governed by foreign unelected eurocrats in Brussels.

Well the Irish voted no to the Lisbon Treaty, but the EU dictators rejected their no vote and forced the Irish to have a revote - until they suddenly changed their iniital no vote to a yes vote to suit the Eurocratic dictators in Brussels.

The Northern Irish and Scots voted to remain in the EU.

Ya thats a problem. Hopefully the EUSSR breaks into 50 pieces instead of this Authoritarian Socialist-Liberal nonsense they keep pushing.
Might have supported it 60 years ago when Europeans shared more values (at least the Western parts).

♥ Lily ♥
09-15-2018, 08:29 PM
The UK's best friends in Europe at the moment are Norway, Iceland, and Switzerland, who are all independently governed from the EU.

♥ Lily ♥
09-15-2018, 08:30 PM
Interesting. Lily, do you agree with BREXIT?

Yes, ofc. I made a lot of anti EU videos on YT for several years and constantly complained about the EU, prior to the Brexit referendum, and I went out and voted for Brexit during the referendum. I despise the EU and dictator Merkel and I wish more nations would leave the EU and help to break-up the EUSSR dictatorship.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pry5iL4TIa8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_354y_vEi4o

Ülev
09-15-2018, 08:32 PM
fine

Ruggery
09-15-2018, 08:32 PM
The Commonwealth nations also have our own Commonwealth games with opening ceremonies, etc, like with the Olympics.

Opening ceremony in Australia.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LCPoqCLIVI

Commonwealth Games opening ceremony in India.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuUR8lR50Yk

Opening ceremony in Scotland hosting the Commonwealth Games.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQ-BPjDBpBQ

Is that a sporting event?

frankhammer
09-15-2018, 08:33 PM
Sorry but the UK and Canada have terrible immigration policies and a free for all mentality. Australia and NZ still allow far too many low-grade migrants also but at least have some semblance of sanity to their policies. They do not allow economic migrants to abuse the refugee system either.

Until both those nations have the balls to match Australia's hard-line refugee policy, neither should be allowed the "free movement of peoples".

In fact, NZ lost a great portion of the goodwill between our two nations by allowing these 3rd rate people to backdoor into Australia through weak immigration policy. Now listening to the politicians here whinge about how Australia treats NZ'ers today is embarrassing. The people being deported are by and large ethnics bought up within families with a gang culture that started here.

Economically, Australia and NZ weathered the UK dropping us in favour of the EEC and have in turn developed stronger economies not reliant on any singular nation. (Although China has become a big client to both nations products) Both have turned their attention to the Pacific rim and the opportunities available to us here.

What has Britain or Canada (sorry Canada but Trudeau is a sap) got that we need? This seems to be a reaction to the possibility Brexit is about to become painful and they need some support.

♥ Lily ♥
09-15-2018, 08:34 PM
:) :love0031:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViPm0GUxw-M

Catarinense1998
09-15-2018, 08:34 PM
Yes, ofc. I made a lot of anti EU videos on YT for several years and constantly complained about the EU, prior to the Brexit referendum, and I went out and voted for Brexit during the referendum. I despise the EU and dictator Merkel and I wish more nations would leave the EU and help to break-up the EUSSR dictatorship.

interesting. The brazilian media spoke about BREXIT as it was a trouble between old and countryside people vs city's people and young people.

frankhammer
09-15-2018, 08:36 PM
Double post TA BS

Dragoon
09-15-2018, 08:38 PM
Sorry but the UK and Canada have terrible immigration policies and a free for all mentality. Australia and NZ still allow far too many low-grade migrants also but at least have a semblance of sanity to their policies. They do not allow economic migrants to abuse the refugee system either.

Until both those nations have the balls to match Australia's hard-line refugee policy, neither should be allowed the "free movement of peoples".

In fact, NZ lost a great portion of the goodwill between our two nations by allowing these 3rd rate people to backdoor into Australia through weak immigration policy. Now listening to the politicians here whinge about how Australia treats NZ'ers today is embarrassing. The people being deported are by and large ethnics bought up within families with a gang culture that started here.

Economically, Australia and NZ weathered the UK dropping us in favour of the EEC and have in turn developed stronger economies not reliant on any singular nation. (Although China has become a big client to both nations products) Both have turned their attention to the Pacific rim and the opportunities available to us here.

What has Britain or Canada (sorry Canada but Trudeau is a sap) got that we need? This seems to be a reaction to the possibility Brexit is about to become painful and they need some support.

Probably would have worked better decades ago too. Now its quite possibly gonna be free trade/money dominance (cheap labour, open borders, utopian "we are all equal" nonsense). That means less focus on people who lived there for centuries, more chaos, and the like.

Think some evil people after WW2 fucked up everything. These Rockefellers, Rothschild, Warburg freaks are annoying.

♥ Lily ♥
09-15-2018, 08:38 PM
Is that a sporting event?

Yep.


The Commonwealth Games are an international multi-sport event involving athletes from the Commonwealth of Nations. The event was first held in 1930, and has taken place every four years since then.[1] The Commonwealth Games were known as the British Empire Games from 1930 to 1950, the British Empire and Commonwealth Games from 1954 to 1966, and British Commonwealth Games from 1970 to 1974. It is the world's first multi-sport event which inducted equal number of women’s and men’s medal events and was implemented recently in the 2018 Commonwealth Games.[2]

Their creation was inspired by the Inter-Empire Championships, as a part of the Festival of Empire, which were held in London, United Kingdom in 1911. Melville Marks Robinson founded the games as the British Empire Games which were first hosted in Hamilton in 1930.[3] During the 20th and 21st centuries, the evolution of the games movement has resulted in several changes to the Commonwealth Games. Some of these adjustments include the creation of the Commonwealth Winter Games for snow and ice sports for the commonwealth athletes,[4] the Commonwealth Paraplegic Games for commonwealth athletes with a disability[5] and the Commonwealth Youth Games for commonwealth athletes aged 14 to 18. The first edition of the winter games and paraplegic games were held in 1958 and 1962 respectively, with their last edition held in 1966 and 1974 respectively and the first youth games were held in 2000. The 1942 and 1946 Commonwealth Games were cancelled because of the second world war.[6]

The Commonwealth Games are overseen by the Commonwealth Games Federation (CGF), which also controls the sporting programme and selects the host cities. The games movement consists of international sports federations (IFs), Commonwealth Games Associations (CGAs), and organising committees for each specific Commonwealth Games. There are several rituals and symbols, such as the Commonwealth Games flag and Queen's Baton, as well as the opening and closing ceremonies. Over 5,000 athletes compete at the Commonwealth Games in more than 15 different sports and more than 250 events. The first, second, and third-place finishers in each event receive Commonwealth Games medals: gold, silver, and bronze, respectively. Apart from many Olympic sports, the games also include some sports that are played predominantly in Commonwealth countries but which are not part of the Olympic programme, such as lawn bowls, netball and squash.[7]

Although there are currently 53 members of the Commonwealth of Nations, 71 teams currently participate in the Commonwealth Games, as a number of dependent territories compete under their own flags. The four Home Nations of the United Kingdom—England, Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland—also send separate teams.

Nineteen cities in nine countries (counting England, Wales, and Scotland separately) have hosted the event. Australia has hosted the Commonwealth Games five times (1938, 1962, 1982, 2006 and 2018); this is more times than any other nation. Two cities have hosted Commonwealth Games more than once: Auckland (1950, 1990) and Edinburgh (1970, 1986).

Only six countries have attended every Commonwealth Games: Australia, Canada, England, New Zealand, Scotland, and Wales. Australia has been the highest achieving team for twelve games, England for seven, and Canada for one.

The most recent Commonwealth Games were held in Gold Coast from 4 to 15 April 2018. The next Commonwealth Games are to be held in Birmingham (England) from 27 July to 7 August 2022.

Read more: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commonwealth_Games

Commonwealth of Nations.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/d/d2/Commonwealth_Flag_-_2013.svg/408px-Commonwealth_Flag_-_2013.svg.png


The Commonwealth of Nations, normally known as the Commonwealth,[2] is an intergovernmental organisation of 53 member states that are mostly former territories of the British Empire.[3] The chief institutions of the organisation are the Commonwealth Secretariat, which focuses on intergovernmental aspects, and the Commonwealth Foundation, which focuses on non-governmental relations between member states.[4]

The Commonwealth dates back to the first half of the 20th century with the decolonisation of the British Empire through increased self-governance of its territories. It was originally created as the British Commonwealth of Nations[5] through the Balfour Declaration at the 1926 Imperial Conference, and formalised by the United Kingdom through the Statute of Westminster in 1931. The current Commonwealth of Nations was formally constituted by the London Declaration in 1949, which modernised the community, and established the member states as "free and equal".[6] The symbol of this free association is Queen Elizabeth II, who is the Head of the Commonwealth. The Queen is head of state of 16 member states, known as the Commonwealth realms, while 32 other members are republics and five others have different monarchs.

Member states have no legal obligations to one another. Instead, they are united by language, history, culture and their shared values of democracy, human rights and the rule of law.[4] These values are enshrined in the Commonwealth Charter[7] and promoted by the quadrennial Commonwealth Games.

The countries of the Commonwealth covers more than 29,958,050 km2 (11,566,870 sq mi), equivalent to 20% of the world's land area and spans all six inhabited continents.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commonwealth_of_Nations

♥ Lily ♥
09-15-2018, 08:42 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pN9Tn1QRBTc

♥ Lily ♥
09-15-2018, 08:43 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkypkxYQs5A

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-_Ty8zsnoA

♥ Lily ♥
09-15-2018, 08:44 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpzctuhQggE

frankhammer
09-15-2018, 08:46 PM
[video=youtube;[/video]

The Commonwealth is becoming less relevant by the year. If you want to create something worthwhile, bring together certain ethnicities (England, Ireland, Scotland and Wales) of these lands and those others who respect the overall binding culture.

Graham
09-16-2018, 10:11 AM
Probably more realistic for the Uk to enter into the Trans-Pacific Partnership after it leaves the European Union, not to say I'm for that but it is more possible.


The UK's best friends in Europe at the moment are Norway, Iceland, and Switzerland, who are all independently governed from the EU.

It is Germany, France & Netherlands going by trade statistics of imports/exports.

Wanderer
09-22-2018, 12:51 AM
It seems quite pointless to me, unless the USA is involved.

frankhammer
09-22-2018, 12:58 AM
Australia, NZ and Canada don't need big brothers or father figures anymore. The UK will always try to place itself in that role.

The USA isn't required at all. Although they speak the same language and are culturally similar, they're also miles apart. And again, like the UK, they want all the cake.

Could there be something in the future, quite possibly but also remember, the UK shit on three of these nations a mere 30 years back. They haven't forgotten.

Óttar
09-22-2018, 01:07 AM
As someone with English roots going back to the early 17th century, I always felt a little gypped that I didn't have access to travel and education through Canada, the UK, Australia, New Zealand, etc.

Ülev
09-22-2018, 04:01 PM
http://www.canzukinternational.com/

Rgvgjhvv
09-22-2018, 04:12 PM
Weird