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manu15151513
09-17-2018, 12:14 PM
MDLP K16 Modern 4-Ancestors Oracle
This program is based on 4-Ancestors Oracle Version 0.96 by Alexandr Burnashev.
Questions about results should be sent to him at: Alexandr.Burnashev@gmail.com
Original concept proposed by Sergey Kozlov.
Many thanks to Alexandr for helping us get this web version developed.

MDLP K16 2xOracle and OracleX4

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 38.94
2 Neolithic 28.41
3 Steppe 15.76
4 NorthEastEuropean 11.55
5 NearEast 3.53


Finished reading population data. 517 populations found.
16 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Greek_Thessaloniki @ 5.383568
2 Greek_Athens @ 5.691554
3 Greek_Greece @ 5.706877
4 Albanian_Albania @ 5.798147
5 Greek_Macedonia @ 6.468699
6 Greek_Peloponnes @ 6.642435
7 Italian_Abruzzo @ 6.941249
8 Italian_SouthItaly @ 7.644067
9 Kosovar_Kosovo @ 7.670115
10 Sicilian_Sicily @ 8.033203
11 Italian_Tuscany @ 8.452469
12 Greek_Greece @ 8.478572
13 Jew_Ashkenazi @ 9.557764
14 Gagauz_Gagauzia @ 9.827127
15 Jew_Ashkenazim @ 10.340121
16 Maltese_Malta @ 10.444162
17 Bulgarian_Bulgaria @ 11.192239
18 Italian_NorthIitaly @ 11.341615
19 Jew_Ashkenazi @ 11.700686
20 Macedonian_Macedonia @ 11.726963

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Greek_Greece +50% Italian_Tuscany @ 3.837419


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Greek_Macedonia +25% Spanish_Pais_Vasco +25% Turk_Trabzon @ 2.943135











Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 4-Ancestors Oracle
This program is based on 4-Ancestors Oracle Version 0.96 by Alexandr Burnashev.
Questions about results should be sent to him at: Alexandr.Burnashev@gmail.com
Original concept proposed by Sergey Kozlov.
Many thanks to Alexandr for helping us get this web version developed.

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 24.58
2 West_Med 21.10
3 North_Sea 17.68
4 West_Asian 15.42
5 Atlantic 9.01
6 Baltic 6.38
7 Red_Sea 3.48
8 Southeast_Asian 1.32


Finished reading population data. 207 populations found.
15 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Greek_Thessaly @ 9.968984
2 Central_Greek @ 10.348835
3 East_Sicilian @ 10.918589
4 Italian_Abruzzo @ 11.765008
5 South_Italian @ 12.287725
6 Ashkenazi @ 12.590080
7 Tuscan @ 13.689103
8 West_Sicilian @ 14.307000
9 Greek @ 14.597218
10 Italian_Jewish @ 16.058277
11 Algerian_Jewish @ 18.603544
12 Sephardic_Jewish @ 18.764122
13 North_Italian @ 19.274139
14 Bulgarian @ 19.555586
15 Romanian @ 20.847822
16 Libyan_Jewish @ 20.994333
17 Tunisian_Jewish @ 22.682482
18 Cyprian @ 23.896717
19 Serbian @ 24.148520
20 Turkish @ 25.679600

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Central_Greek +50% Greek_Thessaly @ 9.149133


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Assyrian +25% Sardinian +25% West_Norwegian @ 7.963302













MDLP K23b 4-Ancestors Oracle
This program is based on 4-Ancestors Oracle Version 0.96 by Alexandr Burnashev.
Questions about results should be sent to him at: Alexandr.Burnashev@gmail.com
Original concept proposed by Sergey Kozlov.
Many thanks to Alexandr for helping us get this web version developed.

MDLP K23b Oracle Rev 2014 Sep 16

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 36.15
2 European_Early_Farmers 23.27
3 European_Hunters_Gatherers 16.61
4 Near_East 9.00
5 South_Central_Asian 7.45
6 North_African 3.52
7 Melano_Polynesian 1.02


Finished reading population data. 620 populations found.
23 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Greek_Peloponnesos_ @ 5.850985
2 Greek_Northwest_ @ 6.037382
3 Sicilian_West_ @ 6.080850
4 Central_Greek_ @ 6.239596
5 Ashkenazi_Jew_ @ 6.493766
6 Ashkenazi_ @ 6.715101
7 Greek_Thessaly_ @ 7.075140
8 Sicilian_Siracusa_ @ 7.107190
9 Albanian_Tirana_ @ 7.315995
10 Greek_ @ 7.393432
11 Greek_Thessaloniki_ @ 7.451396
12 Greek_Athens_ @ 7.682451
13 Sicilian_Trapani_ @ 7.919737
14 Sicilian_East_ @ 8.290197
15 Romanian_Jew_ @ 8.407342
16 Kosovar_ @ 8.594227
17 Italian_Abruzzo_ @ 8.819154
18 Sicilian_Agrigento_ @ 9.195619
19 Italian_South_ @ 9.217439
20 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain_ @ 9.368503

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Greek_Northwest_ +50% Sicilian_West_ @ 2.390126


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Greek_Smyrna_ +25% Sicilian_West_ +25% South_German_ @ 1.558085














Eurogenes K13 4-Ancestors Oracle
This program is based on 4-Ancestors Oracle Version 0.96 by Alexandr Burnashev.
Questions about results should be sent to him at: Alexandr.Burnashev@gmail.com
Original concept proposed by Sergey Kozlov.
Many thanks to Alexandr for helping us get this web version developed.

K13 Oracle ref data revised 21 Nov 2013

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 25.22
2 West_Med 24.59
3 North_Atlantic 17.36
4 West_Asian 16.26
5 Baltic 10.88
6 Red_Sea 3.70
7 East_Asian 1.68


Finished reading population data. 204 populations found.
13 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Central_Greek @ 5.587612
2 East_Sicilian @ 7.407242
3 Italian_Abruzzo @ 7.519859
4 Greek_Thessaly @ 8.517058
5 West_Sicilian @ 8.681904
6 South_Italian @ 8.910786
7 Tuscan @ 12.521594
8 Ashkenazi @ 13.273037
9 Algerian_Jewish @ 16.772158
10 Sephardic_Jewish @ 16.923441
11 Bulgarian @ 16.948244
12 Italian_Jewish @ 17.312147
13 North_Italian @ 18.158567
14 Romanian @ 19.304453
15 Tunisian_Jewish @ 21.344381
16 Libyan_Jewish @ 21.724590
17 Cyprian @ 22.700085
18 Turkish @ 23.789305
19 Serbian @ 24.176939
20 Lebanese_Muslim @ 26.251251

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Central_Greek +50% Central_Greek @ 5.587612


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Bulgarian +25% Georgian_Jewish +25% Sardinian @ 3.257768







EUROGENES K36



This utility uses the Eurogenes K36 model, created by Davidski (Polako). Questions and comments about this model
should be directed to him at his Eurogenes Genetic Ancestry Project blog.
Software Version: Aug 11 2018 00:27:27

Kit Number: JD8765860 Elapsed Time: 11.16 seconds


Population
Amerindian -
Arabian 0.20 Pct
Armenian 4.94 Pct
Basque 1.57 Pct
Central_African -
Central_Euro 4.32 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 8.36 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro -
East_Med 17.42 Pct
Eastern_Euro -
Fennoscandian 0.53 Pct
French 1.96 Pct
Iberian 13.57 Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 17.74 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 5.24 Pct
North_African -
North_Atlantic 2.68 Pct
North_Caucasian 6.76 Pct
North_Sea 4.44 Pct
Northeast_African -
Oceanian 0.06 Pct
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian 0.22 Pct
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African -
West_Caucasian 3.01 Pct
West_Med 7.00 Pct

Sikeliot
09-17-2018, 12:16 PM
What part of Italy are you actually from? From the result it would have to be something like Marche, Abruzzo, etc I would think.

gıulıoımpa
09-17-2018, 12:17 PM
looks similar to abruzzese

Sikeliot
09-17-2018, 12:18 PM
There may be some people with similar results from Trapani also.

manu15151513
09-17-2018, 12:19 PM
What part of Italy are you actually from? From the result it would have to be something like Marche, Abruzzo, etc I would think.




My father is from the province of Rome, in the areas south of Rome, while my mother is native to the northern Marche, that is the province of Ancona and Pesaro and Urbino.

Which region? Abruzzo?

Kaspias
09-17-2018, 12:20 PM
Abruzzo.

manu15151513
09-17-2018, 12:20 PM
looks similar to abruzzese


So from the genetic point of view are the extreme north of southern Italy?

Sikeliot
09-17-2018, 12:21 PM
So from the genetic point of view are the extreme north of southern Italy?

Yes.

Your result looks central Italian, basically.

manu15151513
09-17-2018, 12:23 PM
Yes.

Your result looks central Italian, basically.



The Abruzzese are geographically a people of central Italy, but genetically they are located in the far north of the south as far as I know, so I can consider myself an Italian of the center tending strongly to the south?

manu15151513
09-17-2018, 12:26 PM
Map based on my results of eurogenes k36 of the European continent only:

80108

donriccardo
09-17-2018, 12:28 PM
When do you use MDLP K16 and when you use Eurogenes k13? I don't get it yet...

donriccardo
09-17-2018, 12:29 PM
Map based on my results of eurogenes k36 of the European continent only:

80108

Did you make it or calculator generated?

manu15151513
09-17-2018, 12:32 PM
When do you use MDLP K16 and when you use Eurogenes k13? I don't get it yet...



EUROGENES K13


# Population Percent
1 East_Med 25.22
2 West_Med 24.59
3 North_Atlantic 17.36
4 West_Asian 16.26
5 Baltic 10.88
6 Red_Sea 3.7
7 East_Asian 1.68
8 Oceanian 0.31

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Central_Greek 4.97
2 East_Sicilian 6.64
3 Italian_Abruzzo 6.68
4 Greek_Thessaly 7.58
5 West_Sicilian 7.64
6 South_Italian 7.82
7 Tuscan 10.88
8 Ashkenazi 11.6
9 Algerian_Jewish 14.71
10 Sephardic_Jewish 14.87
11 Bulgarian 14.99
12 Italian_Jewish 15.08
13 North_Italian 15.71
14 Romanian 17.02
15 Tunisian_Jewish 18.86
16 Libyan_Jewish 19.36
17 Cyprian 19.71
18 Turkish 20.97
19 Serbian 21.24
20 Lebanese_Muslim 23.09

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 93.3% Central_Greek + 6.7% French_Basque @ 4.07
2 91.3% Central_Greek + 8.7% Sardinian @ 4.08
3 91.3% Central_Greek + 8.7% Southwest_French @ 4.12
4 91.4% Central_Greek + 8.6% Spanish_Cantabria @ 4.22
5 90.3% Central_Greek + 9.7% Spanish_Andalucia @ 4.26
6 91.3% Central_Greek + 8.7% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 4.31
7 86% Central_Greek + 14% North_Italian @ 4.32
8 92.3% Central_Greek + 7.7% Spanish_Aragon @ 4.35
9 91.2% Central_Greek + 8.8% Spanish_Galicia @ 4.37
10 90.8% Central_Greek + 9.2% Spanish_Extremadura @ 4.39
11 91.6% Central_Greek + 8.4% Spanish_Cataluna @ 4.39
12 91.6% Central_Greek + 8.4% Spanish_Valencia @ 4.41
13 91.9% Central_Greek + 8.1% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 4.43
14 91.5% Central_Greek + 8.5% Portuguese @ 4.46
15 91.9% Central_Greek + 8.1% Spanish_Murcia @ 4.47
16 93.3% Central_Greek + 6.7% French @ 4.56
17 95.3% Central_Greek + 4.7% Southwest_English @ 4.59
18 94.5% Central_Greek + 5.5% East_German @ 4.6
19 94.4% Central_Greek + 5.6% South_Dutch @ 4.61
20 94.3% Central_Greek + 5.7% Austrian @ 4.62




MDLP K16




# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 38.94
2 Neolithic 28.41
3 Steppe 15.76
4 NorthEastEuropean 11.55
5 NearEast 3.53


Finished reading population data. 517 populations found.
16 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Greek_Thessaloniki @ 5.383568
2 Greek_Athens @ 5.691554
3 Greek_Greece @ 5.706877
4 Albanian_Albania @ 5.798147
5 Greek_Macedonia @ 6.468699
6 Greek_Peloponnes @ 6.642435
7 Italian_Abruzzo @ 6.941249
8 Italian_SouthItaly @ 7.644067
9 Kosovar_Kosovo @ 7.670115
10 Sicilian_Sicily @ 8.033203
11 Italian_Tuscany @ 8.452469
12 Greek_Greece @ 8.478572
13 Jew_Ashkenazi @ 9.557764
14 Gagauz_Gagauzia @ 9.827127
15 Jew_Ashkenazim @ 10.340121
16 Maltese_Malta @ 10.444162
17 Bulgarian_Bulgaria @ 11.192239
18 Italian_NorthIitaly @ 11.341615
19 Jew_Ashkenazi @ 11.700686
20 Macedonian_Macedonia @ 11.726963

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Greek_Greece +50% Italian_Tuscany @ 3.837419


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Greek_Macedonia +25% Spanish_Pais_Vasco +25% Turk_Trabzon @ 2.943135

manu15151513
09-17-2018, 12:33 PM
Did you make it or calculator generated?



What, i do not understand?
It is based on the eurogenes k36, and was made by a curious application on the net.

donriccardo
09-17-2018, 12:37 PM
What, i do not understand?
It is based on the eurogenes k36, and was made by a curious application on the net.

Ah pensavo che l'avesse generata gedmatch

Percivalle
09-17-2018, 12:38 PM
MDLP K16 Modern 4-Ancestors Oracle

On Gedmatch your kit hasn't any match. That's very weird.

manu15151513
09-17-2018, 12:44 PM
On Gedmatch your kit hasn't any match. That's very weird.



It works on gedmatch genesis.

donriccardo
09-17-2018, 12:45 PM
On Gedmatch your kit hasn't any match. That's very weird.

He has match with me. Longest segment = 5.0 cM
Lower than 5, we have 247 segments match

Only because I set the minimal segment to 5. Otherwise he doesn't have anyone. :D

manu15151513
09-17-2018, 12:49 PM
So what do you think is the region? The Abruzzo?

donriccardo
09-17-2018, 12:51 PM
So what do you think is the region? The Abruzzo?

Yes Abruzzo, central Italy. I also score some Abruzzo

Percivalle
09-17-2018, 12:52 PM
Yes Abruzzo, central Italy. I also score some Abruzzo

Abruzzo is not genetically Central Italy, as showed by Sazzini in 2016.

https://www.nature.com/articles/srep32513

donriccardo
09-17-2018, 12:55 PM
Abruzzo is not genetically Central Italy, as showed by Sazzini in 2016.

https://www.nature.com/articles/srep32513

I see

donriccardo
09-17-2018, 12:57 PM
It works on gedmatch genesis.

I am on genesis as well. What test? Living DNA?

Percivalle
09-17-2018, 12:58 PM
It works on gedmatch genesis.

You have no matches on Genesis.



I see


It's the northmost part of the southern Italian cluster.



So what do you think is the region? The Abruzzo?


Try this with your Eurogenes K15 results.

http://gen3553.pagesperso-orange.fr/ADN/K15.htm

donriccardo
09-17-2018, 01:03 PM
You have no matches on Genesis.





It's the northmost part of the southern Italian cluster.





Try this with your Eurogenes K15 results.

http://gen3553.pagesperso-orange.fr/ADN/K15.htm

Yup genetically it's considered Southern Italy. Ma sei italiano? :D

Percivalle
09-17-2018, 01:05 PM
Yup it's Southern Italy. Ma sei italiano? :D

E secondo te perché avrei scritto Italian come etnia? ^ Certo, non si può mai sapere, visto il numero grande di finti italiani in giro.

donriccardo
09-17-2018, 01:06 PM
E secondo te perché avrei scritto Italian come etnia? ^ Certo, non si può mai sapere, visto il numero grande di finti italiani in giro.

Grande! Finalmente uno autentico. :cool:
Di dove sei?

Percivalle
09-17-2018, 01:13 PM
Grande! Finalmente uno autentico. :cool:
Di dove sei?

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