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Gründig
09-18-2018, 11:22 PM
I took 23andme and was pretty happy with the results. The gedmatch results were pretty accurate as well, however I know the V5 chip isn't the greatest for it.

I'm interested in taking another test but more for the raw data. Based off of this, which test would you recommend?

AncestryDNA? FTDNA? LivingDNA?

Gründig
09-19-2018, 01:19 AM
Bump

Rĉdwald
09-19-2018, 01:25 AM
I was pretty happy with AncestryDNA, although I have to say that LivingDNA looks very inticing.

happycow
09-19-2018, 01:30 AM
I've only done Ancestry and 23andme

Iloko
09-19-2018, 01:39 AM
only in it for the raw data? ..raw data between companies is nearly identical; but for ethnicity estimates LivingDNA might provide more unique results IMO

Gründig
09-19-2018, 01:43 AM
only in it for the raw data? ..raw data between companies is nearly identical; but for ethnicity estimates LivingDNA might provide more unique results IMO

Well the V5 is lacking SNP's

Iloko
09-19-2018, 01:50 AM
Well the V5 is lacking SNP's
yeah 23andme used to have like 1million SNPs with their much older chip, now no more lol

but according to this: https://isogg.org/wiki/Autosomal_DNA_testing_comparison_chart maybe MyHeritage would be a good choice. but from what i heard more SNPs isn't always the best for Gedmatch for example...for instance using 23andme V4 raw data will produce results at a higher 'genotyping rate' on the Gedrosia GM calcs than with using 23andme V3 raw data which actually has a higher count of SNPs in comparison.

lol but maybe you can just test with as many companies as possible to see the differences in output.

Gründig
09-19-2018, 02:00 AM
yeah 23andme used to have like 1million SNPs with their much older chip, now no more lol

but according to this: https://isogg.org/wiki/Autosomal_DNA_testing_comparison_chart maybe MyHeritage would be a good choice. but from what i heard more SNPs isn't always the best for Gedmatch for example...for instance using 23andme V4 raw data will produce results at a higher 'genotyping rate' on the Gedrosia GM calcs than with using 23andme V3 raw data which actually has a higher count of SNPs in comparison.

lol but maybe you can just test with as many companies as possible to see the differences in output.

Interesting.

I actually had my V5 converted to V3 to see how it would work out. I was surprised, its directly inline with my V5 just closer distances as well as some small realistic changes.

Dick
09-19-2018, 02:45 AM
I took 23andme and was pretty happy with the results. The gedmatch results were pretty accurate as well, however I know the V5 chip isn't the greatest for it.

I'm interested in taking another test but more for the raw data. Based off of this, which test would you recommend?

AncestryDNA? FTDNA? LivingDNA?


I was pretty happy with AncestryDNA, although I have to say that LivingDNA looks very inticing.

Livingdna should be the most accurate. they even get the haplo subclades correct

J. Ketch
09-19-2018, 04:58 AM
Living DNA data is less accurate, much less SNPs tested. Makes for larger distances and components that are too high in Gedmatch.

Eg my k36 with LDNA data had my North Sea at 26%, higher than Danes, and my Italian at 13-14%, as much as Southern French I think. Ancestry had me at a much more reasonable 22.7% North Sea and 7.4% Italian.

tekken999
09-19-2018, 04:59 AM
I think ancestrydna is worth a shot. They updated and add like 5x more reference samples, my results changed a crap ton from before

RandomGuy20
09-19-2018, 05:17 AM
Since the updates AncestryDNA is pretty accurate, though the regions are still quite broad. LivingDNA has more refined regions, especially for UK and Eastern Europe. I recommend both :thumb001:

Armenian Bishop
09-19-2018, 06:19 AM
I recommend both 23andMe and AncestryDNA, because 23andMe gives the best haplogroup information, while AncestryDNA is the best place to search for distant ancestors and build a family tree. I'd recommend AncestryDNA, especially if you want to become more familiar with your ancestral relatives.

Norb
09-19-2018, 06:42 AM
they all work with each other trying to get as much money out of the buyer as possible

Gründig
09-27-2018, 01:21 AM
Bump

Gründig
10-14-2018, 12:32 AM
i heard FTDNA raw data is the best.

rein
10-14-2018, 12:34 AM
i heard FTDNA raw data is the best.

NationalGenographic uses the same chip. Could be interesting to know your ancient mix.

Gründig
10-14-2018, 12:50 AM
NationalGenographic uses the same chip. Could be interesting to know your ancient mix.

I forgot about this test. You never hear about it.

Rĉdwald
10-14-2018, 01:25 AM
Living DNA data is less accurate, much less SNPs tested. Makes for larger distances and components that are too high in Gedmatch.

Eg my k36 with LDNA data had my North Sea at 26%, higher than Danes, and my Italian at 13-14%, as much as Southern French I think. Ancestry had me at a much more reasonable 22.7% North Sea and 7.4% Italian.

Have you had the livingDNA test done?

J. Ketch
10-14-2018, 01:58 AM
Have you had the livingDNA test done?
Yeah, it was the first one I did.

Rĉdwald
10-14-2018, 02:14 AM
Yeah, it was the first one I did.

How was the yDNA, and mtDNA haplogroups accuracy on the test?

J. Ketch
10-14-2018, 02:33 AM
How was the yDNA, and mtDNA haplogroups accuracy on the test?
Really good and extensive. Apparently more specific than 23andme.

Here's a few screenshots
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Gründig
10-14-2018, 04:41 PM
Its between ancestrydna and ftdna.

Ayetooey
10-14-2018, 04:53 PM
I've done 23andme and uploaded to gedmatch genesis + myheritage. I've just purchased and sent off my sample for ancestrydna as you can upload to FTDNA, where as ancestryDNA doesn't accept FTDNA or any 3rd party uploads for that matter. Can also upload to normal gedmatch with ancestry.

Ancestry has the best genealogical services and the largest database if you're interested in that. If you've done 23andme then get ancestrydna!

Gründig
10-14-2018, 06:13 PM
I've done 23andme and uploaded to gedmatch genesis + myheritage. I've just purchased and sent off my sample for ancestrydna as you can upload to FTDNA, where as ancestryDNA doesn't accept FTDNA or any 3rd party uploads for that matter. Can also upload to normal gedmatch with ancestry.

Ancestry has the best genealogical services and the largest database if you're interested in that. If you've done 23andme then get ancestrydna!

You think I should? I was only leaning torwards ftdna cause it was a little cheaper and its raw data is supposed to be good.

Teutonski
10-14-2018, 06:35 PM
Livingdna should be the most accurate. they even get the haplo subclades correct

I think I am gonna do livingDNA soon, tanks!

Ayetooey
10-14-2018, 06:52 PM
You think I should? I was only leaning torwards ftdna cause it was a little cheaper and its raw data is supposed to be good.

Well you can transfer ancestrydna to FTDNA where as you can't do it the other way around, ancestry can be transferred pretty much everywhere FTDNA can and ancestrydna has a much larger database for dna relatives. It's your choice but I'd go for ancestry.

Norb
10-14-2018, 07:01 PM
Save your money. Is your data really going to change that much? You should find out your YDNA though

Gründig
10-14-2018, 07:14 PM
Save your money. Is your data really going to change that much? You should find out your YDNA though

I don't care about spending it, I'm interested. I do know my YDNA.

Norb
10-14-2018, 07:15 PM
I don't care about spending it, I'm interested. I do know my YDNA.

It will maybe change only slightly then?

Gründig
10-14-2018, 07:18 PM
It will maybe change only slightly then?

You're right, it shouldn't change much at all. I would still like to see how different companies interpret my data though.

Gründig
10-14-2018, 10:59 PM
Well you can transfer ancestrydna to FTDNA where as you can't do it the other way around, ancestry can be transferred pretty much everywhere FTDNA can and ancestrydna has a much larger database for dna relatives. It's your choice but I'd go for ancestry.

I think I will.

Slavic Italian
10-15-2018, 02:50 PM
I think I am gonna do livingDNA soon, tanks!

They lack a lot of samples other companies have. They are British based and oriented on finding one's British ancestry.

Teutonski
10-15-2018, 04:06 PM
They lack a lot of samples other companies have. They are British based and oriented on finding one's British ancestry.

What is better for me then?

Slavic Italian
10-15-2018, 04:25 PM
What is better for me then?

Ancestry DNA

Teutonski
10-15-2018, 04:26 PM
Ancestry DNA

Does it have YDNA and mtDNA?

Slavic Italian
10-15-2018, 04:26 PM
I did Living DNA as well but it needs more refined and more samples from throughout Europe.

Slavic Italian
10-15-2018, 04:27 PM
Does it have YDNS and mtDNA

No. That is its one downfall.

Teutonski
10-15-2018, 04:28 PM
No. That is its one downfall.

But these 2 are the only reason I wanna do another one, so LivingDNA now?

Hulu
10-15-2018, 04:31 PM
Ftdna. It gives you deeper detail about ydna and mtdna

Slavic Italian
10-15-2018, 04:42 PM
But these 2 are the only reason I wanna do another one, so LivingDNA now?

I would do Family Tree then.

Gründig
10-15-2018, 04:45 PM
Ftdna. It gives you deeper detail about ydna and mtdna

Don't I have to buy the $150 Y dna package for this?

Hulu
10-15-2018, 04:46 PM
Don't I have to buy the $150 Y dna package for this?

I don't know how much it is now, I did the Y37 and bought one or two snp packs after that. But yeah, you have to do ydna separately if you wanna know about that.

Congolese Rice
10-15-2018, 04:48 PM
i wouldve recommended Xcode Life 2.0 if i saw this post earlier, but today the free offer on their ancestry analysis had expired, so yeah xd

Teutonski
10-15-2018, 05:11 PM
I would do Family Tree then.

expensive af

Slavic Italian
10-15-2018, 05:18 PM
i wouldve recommended Xcode Life 2.0 if i saw this post earlier, but today the free offer on their ancestry analysis had expired, so yeah xd

They think everybody is British, Georgian, and Russian.

Slavic Italian
10-15-2018, 05:19 PM
expensive af

Of course.

Gründig
10-15-2018, 05:21 PM
expensive af


Ftdna. It gives you deeper detail about ydna and mtdna

Are you referring to the Y dna package? It's lame their $69 family finder doesn't give you Y and mtdna.

Hulu
10-15-2018, 05:24 PM
Are you referring to the Y dna package? It's lame their $69 family finder doesn't give you Y and mtdna.

yes. You could do the yfull or y67 or y37.

I don't think it's lame, they give you detailed data, plenty of matches. To me it's worth it

Congolese Rice
10-15-2018, 05:29 PM
They think everybody is British, Georgian, and Russian.

lol, it gives me the same. its european calc gave me 31% russian, 19% british, and 15% georgian LOL


my global results are pretty decent though, except for the unnecessary amount of asian and south asian components... My european is also exceptionally low but european is easily distinguishable from west asian, and other races so i think theres a degree of truth to it somehow.


Population Composition

European 44.12

African 23.93

West Asian and Middle
Eastern 17.02

South Asian 5.85

American 3.61
East Asian 2.23

Southeast Asian 2.14

Oceanian 1.09

^


i find it a very cool addition that they used Ethiopian samples and clustered them into the middle eastern catagory. Now it can atleast be seperated from my non-eastern SSA and seems like i am only 24% black west african according to this test, and 17% ethiopian...


kind of high IMO but genetics are genetics ammirite, lol

Gründig
10-15-2018, 05:43 PM
yes. You could do the yfull or y67 or y37.

I don't think it's lame, they give you detailed data, plenty of matches. To me it's worth it

I just meant it was lame they didn't include it. I might get the FTDNA basic one still.

I don't know any super deep subclades or anything but I do have the information 23andme gave me about my YDNA.

Teutonski
10-15-2018, 07:36 PM
Of course.

LivingDNA is cheaper

Gründig
10-16-2018, 11:54 PM
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