What is the best Gedmatch calculator(s) for people from West Asia?

[FinalFlash]

Anybody?

[Meerkat]

I'm not sure but I heard that Eurogenes is bad.

[FinalFlash]

I'm not sure but I heard that Eurogenes is bad.

I think it's mostly for those with predominantly European DNA so I guess that's out of the equation.

[FinalFlash]

Bump

[Maintenance]

mdlp k23b

[Thambi]

Dodecad K12b, PuntDNAL K13 global, Mdlp k23b, ancient eurasia k6

[FinalFlash]

Dodecad K12b, PuntDNAL K13 global, Mdlp k23b, ancient eurasia k6

I dont think Eurogenes is generally accurate for West Asia. PUNTDNAL K13, MDLP K16 and Eurasia K6 are probably the more accurate ones.

[Congolese Rice]

puntDNAL tests, Ancient Eurasia K6, Gedrosia K12 for some individuals with more south asian, probably Iranics.

EthioHelix K10 + French for North Africans.

[Haider]

PuntDNAL K13 hands down

[Congolese Rice]

PuntDNAL K13 hands down

Sup haider, issa yemeni


also, do you think it is also decent for people with North african/ethiopian ancestry instead of arab or middle eastern?



West_Asia 5.68
NE_Europe 35.57
Americas 1.72
Siberia 0.26
Oceania 0.18
South_Asia 1.55
NE_Asia -
East_Africa 0.62
SE_Asia 1.91
SW_Europe 22.56
SW_Asia 4.25
West_Africa 23.95
South_Africa 1.76


^ cuz idk, my SW European is quite high, as far as i know ancestry only gave me 1% iberian, LOL

[FinalFlash]

PuntDNAL K13 hands down

I just ran some Armenian samples on this and dude it makes whole lot more fucking sense let me tell you. Eurogenes is complete trash in comparison. The newer MDLP K16 is decent too. These results are starting to make sense.

[Congolese Rice]

I just ran some Armenian samples on this and dude it makes whole lot more fucking sense let me tell you. Eurogenes is complete trash in comparison. The newer MDLP K16 is decent too. These results are starting to make sense.

Eurogenes is complete trash for anyone who doesnt have strong european influences (65-85%>)


it gives me oracles of @6 in the 4th pop, and in the mixed pop and guess what i am 54-58% european myself, that's quite sad tbh.

[FinalFlash]

Eurogenes is complete trash for anyone who doesnt have strong european influences (65-85%>)


it gives me oracles of @6 in the 4th pop, and in the mixed pop and guess what i am 54-58% european myself, that's quite sad tbh.

The oracles for Armenians in Eurogenes, even if most are western Armenians seem like complete nonsense in comparison. MDLP K16 and PUNTDNAL K13 is the way to go imo.

[Congolese Rice]

The oracles for Armenians in Eurogenes, even if most are western Armenians seem like complete nonsense in comparison. MDLP K16 and PUNTDNAL K13 is the way to go imo.

I could see why lol, personally my MDLP K16 oracle is fairly bad, but then again its probably not designed for ppl like me. It gives me 73% european in my mixed mode oracle, thats really the highest ive seen so far, even higher than eurogenes K13. Quite odd.

[FinalFlash]

I could see why lol, personally my MDLP K16 oracle is fairly bad, but then again its probably not designed for ppl like me. It gives me 73% european in my mixed mode oracle, thats really the highest ive seen so far, even higher than eurogenes K13. Quite odd.

I think Eurogenes should only be used by people from West Asia to simply figure out their West Med, North Sea, Baltic, East Euro and Atlantic scores. Otherwise yeah it's not useful.

[Congolese Rice]

I think Eurogenes should only be used by people from West Asia to simply figure out their West Med, North Sea, Baltic, East Euro and Atlantic scores. Otherwise yeah it's not useful.

True. Percentage-wise Eurogenes is quite accurate imo, but the 4th pop and mixed oracle should only be used by europeans.



Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 36.81
2 Sub-Saharan 24.57
3 Baltic 18.02
4 West_Med 5.58
5 East_Med 4.31
6 Red_Sea 3.58
7 Amerindian 1.95
8 East_Asian 1.65
9 South_Asian 1.39
10 West_Asian 1.16
11 Northeast_African 0.98
12 Siberian 0.01

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 West_German 30.71
2 South_Dutch 31.03
3 North_German 31.46
4 French 31.84
5 Austrian 31.94
6 Danish 32.05
7 Southeast_English 32.2
8 North_Dutch 32.21
9 Swedish 32.25
10 Orcadian 32.27
11 East_German 32.29
12 Hungarian 32.66
13 Irish 32.7
14 Southwest_English 32.71
15 West_Scottish 32.84
16 Norwegian 32.84
17 North_Swedish 33.66
18 Spanish_Galicia 33.87
19 Portuguese 34.02
20 Serbian 34.16

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 72.3% Danish + 27.7% Mandenka @ 5.38
2 72.2% North_Dutch + 27.8% Mandenka @ 5.46
3 73.7% Danish + 26.3% Yoruban @ 5.47
4 73.6% North_Dutch + 26.4% Yoruban @ 5.61
5 71.8% Norwegian + 28.2% Mandenka @ 5.8
6 72.2% Orcadian + 27.8% Mandenka @ 5.86
7 73.6% Orcadian + 26.4% Yoruban @ 6.04
8 74.2% North_German + 25.8% Yoruban @ 6.05
9 71.8% West_Scottish + 28.2% Mandenka @ 6.09
10 72.7% North_German + 27.3% Mandenka @ 6.1
11 73.3% Norwegian + 26.7% Yoruban @ 6.11
12 72.2% Southeast_English + 27.8% Mandenka @ 6.16
13 71.9% Irish + 28.1% Mandenka @ 6.22
14 73.7% Southeast_English + 26.3% Yoruban @ 6.23
15 71.6% North_Dutch + 28.4% Bantu_S.W. @ 6.26
16 71.7% Danish + 28.3% Bantu_S.W. @ 6.27
17 73.3% West_Scottish + 26.7% Yoruban @ 6.35
18 73.4% Irish + 26.6% Yoruban @ 6.43
19 71.2% Norwegian + 28.8% Bantu_S.W. @ 6.52
20 71.3% North_Dutch + 28.7% Bantu_S.E. @ 6.56



"72% danish" lol. my north african probably gets clustered with my european is something i've noticed, because some calcs can seperate the mideast/North african percentages from my european, and then i end up with 59% european, and 41% Somali for example.

look how high the oracles are XD in eurogenes North African probably gets clustered into West Med + East Med + Red Sea, but since europeans also score those percentages, atleast east med and west med, it gets clustered into euro? im not sure.

[FinalFlash]

True. Percentage-wise Eurogenes is quite accurate imo, but the 4th pop and mixed oracle should only be used by europeans.



Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 36.81
2 Sub-Saharan 24.57
3 Baltic 18.02
4 West_Med 5.58
5 East_Med 4.31
6 Red_Sea 3.58
7 Amerindian 1.95
8 East_Asian 1.65
9 South_Asian 1.39
10 West_Asian 1.16
11 Northeast_African 0.98
12 Siberian 0.01

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 West_German 30.71
2 South_Dutch 31.03
3 North_German 31.46
4 French 31.84
5 Austrian 31.94
6 Danish 32.05
7 Southeast_English 32.2
8 North_Dutch 32.21
9 Swedish 32.25
10 Orcadian 32.27
11 East_German 32.29
12 Hungarian 32.66
13 Irish 32.7
14 Southwest_English 32.71
15 West_Scottish 32.84
16 Norwegian 32.84
17 North_Swedish 33.66
18 Spanish_Galicia 33.87
19 Portuguese 34.02
20 Serbian 34.16

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 72.3% Danish + 27.7% Mandenka @ 5.38
2 72.2% North_Dutch + 27.8% Mandenka @ 5.46
3 73.7% Danish + 26.3% Yoruban @ 5.47
4 73.6% North_Dutch + 26.4% Yoruban @ 5.61
5 71.8% Norwegian + 28.2% Mandenka @ 5.8
6 72.2% Orcadian + 27.8% Mandenka @ 5.86
7 73.6% Orcadian + 26.4% Yoruban @ 6.04
8 74.2% North_German + 25.8% Yoruban @ 6.05
9 71.8% West_Scottish + 28.2% Mandenka @ 6.09
10 72.7% North_German + 27.3% Mandenka @ 6.1
11 73.3% Norwegian + 26.7% Yoruban @ 6.11
12 72.2% Southeast_English + 27.8% Mandenka @ 6.16
13 71.9% Irish + 28.1% Mandenka @ 6.22
14 73.7% Southeast_English + 26.3% Yoruban @ 6.23
15 71.6% North_Dutch + 28.4% Bantu_S.W. @ 6.26
16 71.7% Danish + 28.3% Bantu_S.W. @ 6.27
17 73.3% West_Scottish + 26.7% Yoruban @ 6.35
18 73.4% Irish + 26.6% Yoruban @ 6.43
19 71.2% Norwegian + 28.8% Bantu_S.W. @ 6.52
20 71.3% North_Dutch + 28.7% Bantu_S.E. @ 6.56



"72% danish" lol. my north african probably gets clustered with my european is something i've noticed, because some calcs can seperate the mideast/North african percentages from my european, and then i end up with 59% european, and 41% Somali for example.

look how high the oracles are XD in eurogenes North African probably gets clustered into West Med + East Med + Red Sea, but since europeans also score those percentages, atleast east med and west med, it gets clustered into euro? im not sure.

Lol fucking nonsense. Even southern euros dont get anyone in your top 10 that high up, if at all.

[Congolese Rice]

Lol fucking nonsense. Even southern euros dont get anyone in your top 10 that high up, if at all.

Jup, probably since Europeans also score East Med, West Med, and such it probably gets counted up by my euro instead of African (i am roughly 25-35% black african and the rest going to north africa) so im roughly half african and half euro. I get quite weird results

Also eurogenes gives me 54.83% European, count my East Med, Red Sea, and West Med + West asian, East Asian, Amerind, and other percentages and add them to my european we get this: 74.45% European




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Ohhh eurogenes, when will you learn.

[Nazarene]

I think Eurogenes should only be used by people from West Asia to simply figure out their West Med, North Sea, Baltic, East Euro and Atlantic scores. Otherwise yeah it's not useful.

Agree completely

[Kaspias]

Only MDLP oracles are good, rest is shit.

[Congolese Rice]

Only MDLP oracles are good, rest is shit.



Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Lumbee (derived) 7.5
2 Puerto-Rican (derived) 23.14
3 Romania (derived) 29.94
4 Bulgarian (derived) 30.26
5 Macedonian (derived) 30.32
6 Swiss (derived) 30.39
7 Gagauz (derived) 30.66
8 Serbian (derived) 30.68
9 Colville (derived) 30.73
10 Montenegrin (derived) 30.77
11 Tatar (derived) 31.38
12 German-South (derived) 31.49
13 Bosnian (derived) 31.85
14 Hungarian (derived) 31.92
15 Tatar_Kryashen (derived) 32.17
16 Ashkenazim_V (derived) 32.18
17 Austrian (derived) 32.19
18 Tatar_Lithuania (derived) 32.28
19 German_V (derived) 32.31
20 Italian_North (derived) 32.36

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 85.8% Lumbee (derived) + 14.2% Chuvash (derived) @ 4.89
2 86.5% Lumbee (derived) + 13.5% Komi (derived) @ 4.97
3 85.3% Lumbee (derived) + 14.7% Tatar_Kryashen (derived) @ 5.11
4 87.8% Lumbee (derived) + 12.2% Mari (derived) @ 5.13
5 70.6% German_V (derived) + 29.4% Lemba (derived) @ 5.31
6 86.4% Lumbee (derived) + 13.6% Tartar_Mishar (derived) @ 5.31
7 85.5% Lumbee (derived) + 14.5% Tatar (derived) @ 5.34
8 88.3% Lumbee (derived) + 11.7% Russian_North (derived) @ 5.36
9 88.2% Lumbee (derived) + 11.8% Udmurd (derived) @ 5.4
10 88.6% Lumbee (derived) + 11.4% Moldavian (derived) @ 5.41
11 88.2% Lumbee (derived) + 11.8% Mordovian (derived) @ 5.42
12 88.3% Lumbee (derived) + 11.7% Mansi (derived) @ 5.46
13 72.4% Serbian (derived) + 27.6% Bantu (derived) @ 5.47
14 89.7% Lumbee (derived) + 10.3% Vepsa (derived) @ 5.53
15 93.1% Lumbee (derived) + 6.9% North-East-European (ancestral) @ 5.55
16 86.9% Lumbee (derived) + 13.1% Aleut (derived) @ 5.56
17 90.5% Lumbee (derived) + 9.5% Belarusian (derived) @ 5.58
18 70.7% Austrian (derived) + 29.3% Lemba (derived) @ 5.63
19 89% Lumbee (derived) + 11% Russian_V (derived) @ 5.64
20 91.3% Lumbee (derived) + 8.7% Lithuanian (derived) @ 5.65



say again


http://thenubbyadmin.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/SAY_CLOUD_AGAIN1.png

[Kaspias]

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Lumbee (derived) 7.5
2 Puerto-Rican (derived) 23.14
3 Romania (derived) 29.94
4 Bulgarian (derived) 30.26
5 Macedonian (derived) 30.32
6 Swiss (derived) 30.39
7 Gagauz (derived) 30.66
8 Serbian (derived) 30.68
9 Colville (derived) 30.73
10 Montenegrin (derived) 30.77
11 Tatar (derived) 31.38
12 German-South (derived) 31.49
13 Bosnian (derived) 31.85
14 Hungarian (derived) 31.92
15 Tatar_Kryashen (derived) 32.17
16 Ashkenazim_V (derived) 32.18
17 Austrian (derived) 32.19
18 Tatar_Lithuania (derived) 32.28
19 German_V (derived) 32.31
20 Italian_North (derived) 32.36

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 85.8% Lumbee (derived) + 14.2% Chuvash (derived) @ 4.89
2 86.5% Lumbee (derived) + 13.5% Komi (derived) @ 4.97
3 85.3% Lumbee (derived) + 14.7% Tatar_Kryashen (derived) @ 5.11
4 87.8% Lumbee (derived) + 12.2% Mari (derived) @ 5.13
5 70.6% German_V (derived) + 29.4% Lemba (derived) @ 5.31
6 86.4% Lumbee (derived) + 13.6% Tartar_Mishar (derived) @ 5.31
7 85.5% Lumbee (derived) + 14.5% Tatar (derived) @ 5.34
8 88.3% Lumbee (derived) + 11.7% Russian_North (derived) @ 5.36
9 88.2% Lumbee (derived) + 11.8% Udmurd (derived) @ 5.4
10 88.6% Lumbee (derived) + 11.4% Moldavian (derived) @ 5.41
11 88.2% Lumbee (derived) + 11.8% Mordovian (derived) @ 5.42
12 88.3% Lumbee (derived) + 11.7% Mansi (derived) @ 5.46
13 72.4% Serbian (derived) + 27.6% Bantu (derived) @ 5.47
14 89.7% Lumbee (derived) + 10.3% Vepsa (derived) @ 5.53
15 93.1% Lumbee (derived) + 6.9% North-East-European (ancestral) @ 5.55
16 86.9% Lumbee (derived) + 13.1% Aleut (derived) @ 5.56
17 90.5% Lumbee (derived) + 9.5% Belarusian (derived) @ 5.58
18 70.7% Austrian (derived) + 29.3% Lemba (derived) @ 5.63
19 89% Lumbee (derived) + 11% Russian_V (derived) @ 5.64
20 91.3% Lumbee (derived) + 8.7% Lithuanian (derived) @ 5.65



say again


http://thenubbyadmin.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/SAY_CLOUD_AGAIN1.png

LOL Hhahahaha

[Congolese Rice]

LOL Hhahahaha

85% lumbee, WTF DUDEEEEEEEE LOL

[Kaspias]

85% lumbee, WTF DUDEEEEEEEE LOL

Which calculator is this?

[FinalFlash]

Only MDLP oracles are good, rest is shit.

MDLP K16 and PUNTDNAL K13 are by far the best. We actually get all the ethnic groups most related to us as our top matches ie Laz, Assyrians, Azeris, Abkhazians, Georgians and Turks, and of course usually other Armenians as the top match.

[Congolese Rice]

Which calculator is this?

MDLP World-22, i call it the shitty edition of MDLP.


infact, all MDLP tests are bad for me LOL

[Congolese Rice]

MDLP K16 and PUNTDNAL K13 are by far the best. We actually get all the ethnic groups most related to us as our top matches ie Laz, Assyrians, Azeris, Abkhazians, Georgians and Turks, and of course usually other Armenians as the top match.

That's good yall, im glad you guys found a calculator thats actually more accurate for yall.


in my case, EthioHelix K10 + French isnt bad, Africa9 is ok, and some other Dodecad and Gedrosia tests are also quite good.


I only dont know what type of crack Gedrosia K12 smoked because it gives me this:



Gedrosia K12 Oracle

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 SINTASHTA_STEPPE_HERDERS 27.71
2 EARLY_EUROPEAN_FARMERS 24.82
3 SUB_SAHARAN 23.57
4 CAUCASUS 8.65
5 SW_ASIAN 5.09
6 BALOCHI 4.00
7 E_AFRICAN 2.20
8 S_INDIAN 1.76
9 E_SIBERIAN 1.07


Finished reading population data. 87 populations found.
12 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Greek @ 34.202110
2 Norwegian @ 36.373962
3 Sicilian @ 37.178848
4 Turks_Istanbul @ 40.063404
5 Russian @ 41.211338
6 Turkmen_Afghan @ 41.302082
7 Uzbek @ 41.723534
8 Turks_Aydin @ 41.983360
9 Turks_Balikesir @ 43.600075
10 Tajik_Pomiri @ 44.808384
11 Kurds_C @ 45.084240
12 Finnish @ 45.216625
13 Kurds_N @ 45.975132
14 Tajik_Afghan @ 46.472828
15 Iraqi_Arab_Baghdad @ 46.718449
16 Uzbek_Afghan @ 46.895699
17 Turks_Adana @ 47.037777
18 Kurds_F @ 47.268875
19 Estonian @ 48.024105
20 Kurds_E @ 48.092693

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Finnish +50% Iraqi_Arab_Baghdad @ 27.055599


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Norwegian +25% Turks_Istanbul +25% Yoruba @ 5.183939


Using 4 populations approximation:
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 BA_Sintashta + Kurds_F + Sardinian + Yoruba @ 4.115574
2 Corded_Ware_LN + Kurds_F + Sardinian + Yoruba @ 4.115574
3 BA_Sintashta + Esan + Kurds_F + Sardinian @ 4.130162
4 Corded_Ware_LN + Esan + Kurds_F + Sardinian @ 4.130162
5 BA_Sintashta + Kurds_C + Sardinian + Yoruba @ 4.362814
6 Corded_Ware_LN + Kurds_C + Sardinian + Yoruba @ 4.362814
7 BA_Sintashta + Esan + Kurds_C + Sardinian @ 4.376080
8 Corded_Ware_LN + Esan + Kurds_C + Sardinian @ 4.376080
9 BA_Sintashta + Iranian + Sardinian + Yoruba @ 4.406540
10 Corded_Ware_LN + Iranian + Sardinian + Yoruba @ 4.406540
11 BA_Sintashta + Esan + Iranian + Sardinian @ 4.420710
12 Corded_Ware_LN + Esan + Iranian + Sardinian @ 4.420710
13 BA_Sintashta + Kurds_N + Sardinian + Yoruba @ 4.584345
14 Corded_Ware_LN + Kurds_N + Sardinian + Yoruba @ 4.584345
15 BA_Sintashta + Esan + Kurds_N + Sardinian @ 4.597628
16 Corded_Ware_LN + Esan + Kurds_N + Sardinian @ 4.597628
17 BA_Sintashta + Kurds_E + Sardinian + Yoruba @ 4.671020
18 Corded_Ware_LN + Kurds_E + Sardinian + Yoruba @ 4.671020
19 BA_Sintashta + Esan + Kurds_E + Sardinian @ 4.683826
20 Corded_Ware_LN + Esan + Kurds_E + Sardinian @ 4.683826


Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 72.6% Norwegian + 27.4% Yoruba @ 12.42
2 72.6% Norwegian + 27.4% Esan @ 12.44
3 75.1% Greek + 24.9% Yoruba @ 16.93
4 75.1% Greek + 24.9% Esan @ 16.93
5 71.3% Russian + 28.7% Yoruba @ 18.93
6 71.4% Russian + 28.6% Esan @ 18.94
7 74.8% Sicilian + 25.2% Yoruba @ 21.19
8 74.8% Sicilian + 25.2% Esan @ 21.19
9 69.8% Finnish + 30.2% Yoruba @ 21.6
10 69.9% Finnish + 30.1% Esan @ 21.61
11 68.7% Estonian + 31.3% Yoruba @ 22.77
12 68.7% Estonian + 31.3% Esan @ 22.78
13 68.2% Lithuanian + 31.8% Yoruba @ 23.6
14 68.2% Lithuanian + 31.8% Esan @ 23.61
15 74.7% Turks_Istanbul + 25.3% Yoruba @ 25.38
16 74.7% Turks_Istanbul + 25.3% Esan @ 25.38
17 66% Norwegian + 34% Yemen @ 27.9
18 74.5% Turks_Aydin + 25.5% Yoruba @ 28.01
19 74.5% Turks_Aydin + 25.5% Esan @ 28.01
20 73.7% Turks_Balikesir + 26.3% Yoruba @ 28.5



^ LOL, why does this one give me such high oracles on 72% euro meanwhile other tests give me oracles of 5 and 4 etc? quite weird.

[Iloko]

The Gedrosia ASI one

[FinalFlash]

That's good yall, im glad you guys found a calculator thats actually more accurate for yall.


in my case, EthioHelix K10 + French isnt bad, Africa9 is ok, and some other Dodecad and Gedrosia tests are also quite good.


I only dont know what type of crack Gedrosia K12 smoked because it gives me this:



Gedrosia K12 Oracle

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 SINTASHTA_STEPPE_HERDERS 27.71
2 EARLY_EUROPEAN_FARMERS 24.82
3 SUB_SAHARAN 23.57
4 CAUCASUS 8.65
5 SW_ASIAN 5.09
6 BALOCHI 4.00
7 E_AFRICAN 2.20
8 S_INDIAN 1.76
9 E_SIBERIAN 1.07


Finished reading population data. 87 populations found.
12 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Greek @ 34.202110
2 Norwegian @ 36.373962
3 Sicilian @ 37.178848
4 Turks_Istanbul @ 40.063404
5 Russian @ 41.211338
6 Turkmen_Afghan @ 41.302082
7 Uzbek @ 41.723534
8 Turks_Aydin @ 41.983360
9 Turks_Balikesir @ 43.600075
10 Tajik_Pomiri @ 44.808384
11 Kurds_C @ 45.084240
12 Finnish @ 45.216625
13 Kurds_N @ 45.975132
14 Tajik_Afghan @ 46.472828
15 Iraqi_Arab_Baghdad @ 46.718449
16 Uzbek_Afghan @ 46.895699
17 Turks_Adana @ 47.037777
18 Kurds_F @ 47.268875
19 Estonian @ 48.024105
20 Kurds_E @ 48.092693

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Finnish +50% Iraqi_Arab_Baghdad @ 27.055599


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Norwegian +25% Turks_Istanbul +25% Yoruba @ 5.183939


Using 4 populations approximation:
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 BA_Sintashta + Kurds_F + Sardinian + Yoruba @ 4.115574
2 Corded_Ware_LN + Kurds_F + Sardinian + Yoruba @ 4.115574
3 BA_Sintashta + Esan + Kurds_F + Sardinian @ 4.130162
4 Corded_Ware_LN + Esan + Kurds_F + Sardinian @ 4.130162
5 BA_Sintashta + Kurds_C + Sardinian + Yoruba @ 4.362814
6 Corded_Ware_LN + Kurds_C + Sardinian + Yoruba @ 4.362814
7 BA_Sintashta + Esan + Kurds_C + Sardinian @ 4.376080
8 Corded_Ware_LN + Esan + Kurds_C + Sardinian @ 4.376080
9 BA_Sintashta + Iranian + Sardinian + Yoruba @ 4.406540
10 Corded_Ware_LN + Iranian + Sardinian + Yoruba @ 4.406540
11 BA_Sintashta + Esan + Iranian + Sardinian @ 4.420710
12 Corded_Ware_LN + Esan + Iranian + Sardinian @ 4.420710
13 BA_Sintashta + Kurds_N + Sardinian + Yoruba @ 4.584345
14 Corded_Ware_LN + Kurds_N + Sardinian + Yoruba @ 4.584345
15 BA_Sintashta + Esan + Kurds_N + Sardinian @ 4.597628
16 Corded_Ware_LN + Esan + Kurds_N + Sardinian @ 4.597628
17 BA_Sintashta + Kurds_E + Sardinian + Yoruba @ 4.671020
18 Corded_Ware_LN + Kurds_E + Sardinian + Yoruba @ 4.671020
19 BA_Sintashta + Esan + Kurds_E + Sardinian @ 4.683826
20 Corded_Ware_LN + Esan + Kurds_E + Sardinian @ 4.683826


Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 72.6% Norwegian + 27.4% Yoruba @ 12.42
2 72.6% Norwegian + 27.4% Esan @ 12.44
3 75.1% Greek + 24.9% Yoruba @ 16.93
4 75.1% Greek + 24.9% Esan @ 16.93
5 71.3% Russian + 28.7% Yoruba @ 18.93
6 71.4% Russian + 28.6% Esan @ 18.94
7 74.8% Sicilian + 25.2% Yoruba @ 21.19
8 74.8% Sicilian + 25.2% Esan @ 21.19
9 69.8% Finnish + 30.2% Yoruba @ 21.6
10 69.9% Finnish + 30.1% Esan @ 21.61
11 68.7% Estonian + 31.3% Yoruba @ 22.77
12 68.7% Estonian + 31.3% Esan @ 22.78
13 68.2% Lithuanian + 31.8% Yoruba @ 23.6
14 68.2% Lithuanian + 31.8% Esan @ 23.61
15 74.7% Turks_Istanbul + 25.3% Yoruba @ 25.38
16 74.7% Turks_Istanbul + 25.3% Esan @ 25.38
17 66% Norwegian + 34% Yemen @ 27.9
18 74.5% Turks_Aydin + 25.5% Yoruba @ 28.01
19 74.5% Turks_Aydin + 25.5% Esan @ 28.01
20 73.7% Turks_Balikesir + 26.3% Yoruba @ 28.5



^ LOL, why does this one give me such high oracles on 72% euro meanwhile other tests give me oracles of 5 and 4 etc? quite weird.

Lol what are ya, an alien?

[Congolese Rice]

Lol what are ya, an alien?

:^) maybe


shit, he found out my secret identity, RETREAT

https://78.media.tumblr.com/56bf7baae90d20878df892c2bf8c728b/tumblr_o8s7cbMcdW1v7t2dzo1_500.gif

[Levant15]

So what would be the best for the Levant? Eurogenes says my dad is Lebanese which I highly doubt it

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[FinalFlash]

So what would be the best for the Levant? Eurogenes says my dad is Lebanese which I highly doubt it

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I think you should steer clear of Eurogenes. Run your results on PUNTDNAL K13 and the newer MDLP K16. I found these to be the most accurate. Post your parents' results and yours as well!

[Hadouken]

eurogenes k13 , dodecad k12b , eurasia k9 asi (but it is taken down)

[FinalFlash]

eurogenes k13 , dodecad k12b , eurasia k9 asi (but it is taken down)

I'd forget about Eurogenes unless you're of predominantly Euro ancestry.

[Hadouken]

I'd forget about Eurogenes unless you're of predominantly Euro ancestry.

no it is really good also for west asians imo

[Levant15]

I think you should steer clear of Eurogenes. Run your results on PUNTDNAL K13 and the newer MDLP K16. I found these to be the most accurate. Post your parents' results and yours as well!
I posted them earlier on my thread

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?259853-Levant15-s-Parents-FTDNA

I think the problem with all thsee calculators for me is that they don't have a population reference that resembles mine. So I get stuck with Samaritans and Lebanese Christians because they're the next closest to me.

Mdlp K16 seems to have better oracle just because they have a population reference that actually resembles me enough.

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[FinalFlash]

no it is really good also for west asians imo

Really? What's your Eurogenes K13 look like?

[Hadouken]

Really? What's your Eurogenes K13 look like?

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent

1 West_Asian 36.06
2 East_Med 30.76
3 West_Med 8.27
4 South_Asian 6.84
5 Red_Sea 6.06
6 North_Atlantic 4.67
7 Baltic 2.74
8 Sub-Saharan 1.29
9 Siberian 1.29
10 East_Asian 1.21
11 Amerindian 0.82

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance

1 Azeri 4.05
2 Kurdish 4.87
3 Iranian 6.25
4 Armenian 7.54
5 Turkish 7.58
6 Georgian_Jewish 7.94
7 Assyrian 9.88
8 Iranian_Jewish 12.29
9 Kurdish_Jewish 12.78
10 Kumyk 15.67
11 Lebanese_Muslim 15.98
12 Turkmen 17.02
13 Georgian 17.02
14 Syrian 17.03
15 Adygei 18.28
16 Abhkasian 18.51
17 Balkar 19.44
18 Ossetian 19.85
19 Cyprian 20.27
20 Kabardin 20.71

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 86.2% Kurdish + 13.8% Algerian_Jewish @ 1.94
2 85.3% Kurdish + 14.7% Sephardic_Jewish @ 2.02
3 85.6% Kurdish + 14.4% Tunisian_Jewish @ 2.09
4 86.4% Kurdish + 13.6% Italian_Jewish @ 2.13
5 67.9% Azeri + 32.1% Armenian @ 2.19
6 86% Kurdish + 14% Libyan_Jewish @ 2.22
7 89.8% Kurdish + 10.2% Tunisian @ 2.26
8 82.4% Kurdish + 17.6% Cyprian @ 2.3
9 90.2% Kurdish + 9.8% Algerian @ 2.4
10 85.7% Kurdish + 14.3% South_Italian @ 2.42
11 90.5% Kurdish + 9.5% Mozabite_Berber @ 2.43
12 63.1% Kurdish + 36.9% Turkish @ 2.47
13 86.6% Kurdish + 13.4% Ashkenazi @ 2.48
14 79% Kurdish + 21% Lebanese_Muslim @ 2.48
15 70.4% Azeri + 29.6% Georgian_Jewish @ 2.53
16 80.3% Kurdish + 19.7% Syrian @ 2.58
17 90.8% Kurdish + 9.2% Moroccan @ 2.64
18 86.3% Kurdish + 13.7% East_Sicilian @ 2.64
19 88% Kurdish + 12% West_Sicilian @ 2.66
20 55.7% Iranian + 44.3% Turkish @ 2.75

[FinalFlash]

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent

1 West_Asian 36.06
2 East_Med 30.76
3 West_Med 8.27
4 South_Asian 6.84
5 Red_Sea 6.06
6 North_Atlantic 4.67
7 Baltic 2.74
8 Sub-Saharan 1.29
9 Siberian 1.29
10 East_Asian 1.21
11 Amerindian 0.82

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance

1 Azeri 4.05
2 Kurdish 4.87
3 Iranian 6.25
4 Armenian 7.54
5 Turkish 7.58
6 Georgian_Jewish 7.94
7 Assyrian 9.88
8 Iranian_Jewish 12.29
9 Kurdish_Jewish 12.78
10 Kumyk 15.67
11 Lebanese_Muslim 15.98
12 Turkmen 17.02
13 Georgian 17.02
14 Syrian 17.03
15 Adygei 18.28
16 Abhkasian 18.51
17 Balkar 19.44
18 Ossetian 19.85
19 Cyprian 20.27
20 Kabardin 20.71

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 86.2% Kurdish + 13.8% Algerian_Jewish @ 1.94
2 85.3% Kurdish + 14.7% Sephardic_Jewish @ 2.02
3 85.6% Kurdish + 14.4% Tunisian_Jewish @ 2.09
4 86.4% Kurdish + 13.6% Italian_Jewish @ 2.13
5 67.9% Azeri + 32.1% Armenian @ 2.19
6 86% Kurdish + 14% Libyan_Jewish @ 2.22
7 89.8% Kurdish + 10.2% Tunisian @ 2.26
8 82.4% Kurdish + 17.6% Cyprian @ 2.3
9 90.2% Kurdish + 9.8% Algerian @ 2.4
10 85.7% Kurdish + 14.3% South_Italian @ 2.42
11 90.5% Kurdish + 9.5% Mozabite_Berber @ 2.43
12 63.1% Kurdish + 36.9% Turkish @ 2.47
13 86.6% Kurdish + 13.4% Ashkenazi @ 2.48
14 79% Kurdish + 21% Lebanese_Muslim @ 2.48
15 70.4% Azeri + 29.6% Georgian_Jewish @ 2.53
16 80.3% Kurdish + 19.7% Syrian @ 2.58
17 90.8% Kurdish + 9.2% Moroccan @ 2.64
18 86.3% Kurdish + 13.7% East_Sicilian @ 2.64
19 88% Kurdish + 12% West_Sicilian @ 2.66
20 55.7% Iranian + 44.3% Turkish @ 2.75

Seems somewhat similar to your PUNTDNAL K13 as far as the Oracle is concerned

[Hadouken]

Seems somewhat similar to your PUNTDNAL K13 as far as the Oracle is concerned

puntdnal oracle lists are quite good but the 2 - 3 - 4 population modes are really bad imo

[FinalFlash]

puntdnal oracle lists are quite good but the 2 - 3 - 4 population modes are really bad imo

Maybe. But their oracles for the top 20 are much more realistic for me. It certainly highlights the reality of those PCA charts.

[FinalFlash]

I posted them earlier on my thread

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?259853-Levant15-s-Parents-FTDNA

I think the problem with all thsee calculators for me is that they don't have a population reference that resembles mine. So I get stuck with Samaritans and Lebanese Christians because they're the next closest to me.

Mdlp K16 seems to have better oracle just because they have a population reference that actually resembles me enough.

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That's probably an issue for certain ethnicities on certain calculators I think as well. I guess there still arent enough sample sizes available.

[Congolese Rice]

That's probably an issue for certain ethnicities on certain calculators I think as well. I guess there still arent enough sample sizes available.

Obviously, some calculators are more geared towards a ethnicity than another. That's why World9, Africa9, and EthioHelix are the only three tests i can really say are good for me.

World9 gives me 25% Mende and 25% Puerto Rican in the 4th pop approx, quite accurate.



Eitherway, eurogenes is really bad for me, MDLP World-22 aswell. It's mixed oracle gives me 85% lumbee and 14% Chuvash (seriously?? wtf dude)

and puntDNAL k13 is also, eh, okay for me i guess, not super good but not extraordinarily bad either like K36 Eurogenes.

[Thracian]

Only MDLP oracles are good, rest is shit.

MDLP oracles are joke.

[FinalFlash]

MDLP oracles are joke.

Depends. K16, the most recent one seems very good.

[Hadouken]

Depends. K16, the most recent one seems very good.

not for me . they dont have kurdish samples from turkey and my oracle is full of armenians

[Congolese Rice]

MDLP oracles are joke.

i would agree personally. It gives me 85% lumbee and 14.5% Chuvash or something.


DO I LOOK LIKE A MODAFUKKIN CHIEFTAIN??? lol

[Kaspias]

MDLP oracles are joke.

Why? I think eurogenes is joke lol

[Thracian]

Depends. K16, the most recent one seems very good.

Single populations seem ok but mixed populations and 4 way oracles are terrible for me.

[FinalFlash]

not for me . they dont have kurdish samples from turkey and my oracle is full of armenians

For Armenians it's good. It shows a bunch of Armenians as top matches sprinkled with Georgians, Assyrians, Abkhazian and Georgian Jew.

[Thracian]

i would agree personally. It gives me 85% lumbee and 14.5% Chuvash or something.


DO I LOOK LIKE A MODAFUKKIN CHIEFTAIN??? lol

Yeah. K23b gives me Volga and Southern German, 16b gives me French and Irish. Single pops are kinda ok.

[Hadouken]

For Armenians it's good. It shows a bunch of Armenians as top matches sprinkled with Georgians, Assyrians, Abkhazian and Georgian Jew.

it has several armenian and georgian samples from so many cities even though armenia and georgia are relatively small countries yet we kurds are distributed in a way larger area and there is only Kurd(Syria) . it gives people who call me crypto armenian a support when I score that kind of oracle

[Thracian]

Why? I think eurogenes is joke lol

Because all of my mixed mod and 4 way oracle scores are weird lol.

[FinalFlash]

it has several armenian and georgian samples from so many cities even though armenia and georgia are relatively small countries yet we kurds are distributed in a way larger area and there is only Kurd(Syria) . it gives people who call me crypto armenian a support when I score that kind of oracle

Maybe with more Kurdish samples from Turkey, your top 20 will change drastically.

[Hadouken]

Maybe with more Kurdish samples from Turkey, your top 20 will change drastically.

one sample is enough . like 10 people from my province , 10 people from mardin , 10 people from kars , 10 people from sirnak , 10 people from malatya for example . it would be a good kurd turkey average

[GoalPoacher]

MDLP World, MDLP World-22, and PuntDNAL K12 modern make most sense imo