Gründig's LM genetics results

[Gründig]

There are a couple strange things in the Dodecad and nMonte pen=0 results.

However, 95% of the tests points me towards southern Germany and the Netherlands, followed by some northern populations.

Overall, well worth it.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=16PM21PG61YwJ2yKPQus9CsYNyErBufWc

[Teutonski]

What can I say a prime example Volksdeutscher, even more suprising consindering you are from the United States.

When did your ancestors immigrate to the USA?

[Rædwald]

Very cool results. You can see mine in my signature if you haven't before.

[Gründig]

What can I say a prime example Volksdeutscher, even more suprising consindering you are from the United States.

When did your ancestors immigrate to the USA?

I had 2 great grandparents immigrate basically right after WWI. I had a few others in the mid 1800's and early 1900's.

[Teutonski]

I had 2 great grandparents immigrate basically right after WWI. I had a few others in the mid 1800's and early 1900's.

Crazy how your ancestors havent mixed with almost anything but Germans/Germanics

[Rædwald]

Crazy how your ancestors havent mixed with almost anything but Germans/Germanics

I would imagine there would be somewhat of an ethnic enclave in some settled, but more remote regions of North America and in the colonies.

[Gründig]

It was only $8 too.

[Raizen]

is this test suitable for mixed people?

[Gründig]

is this test suitable for mixed people?

Yes, he has samples from all over the world. However, if you want to double check, just email him.

http://www.lm-genetics.ovh

[FilhoV]

Best genetic test out there

[Gründig]

Best genetic test out there

He does a good job.

[Gründig]

On this test I place more in Bavaria and on the Global25 I place more along the Rhine.

They have their differences but both put me in either western or southern Germany. Pretty cool.

[Lucas]

On this test I place more in Bavaria and on the Global25 I place more along the Rhine.

They have their differences but both put me in either western or southern Germany. Pretty cool.

How did you know in global25 that results are from Rhine area? Davidski added SW German recently?

[Gründig]

How did you know in global25 that results are from Rhine area? Davidski added SW German recently?

No he didn't. It's just an observation I and some members from anthrogenica made looking at the different plots I have done with my coordinates. As well as the modern populations I'm closest to while using nMonte.

The populations for both being 50% or more of German (or surrounded by Germans on the plots and placing close to the German average.) followed by Dutch, Belgian and French.

Now add in my results from eurogenes, K36 heat map, K15 plot and a few other gedmatch calculators and it all seems to point in the direction of western/southern Germany.

[Lucas]

No he didn't. It's just an observation I and some members from anthrogenica made looking at the different plots I have done with my coordinates. As well as the modern populations I'm closest to while using nMonte.

The populations for both being 50% or more of German (or surrounded by Germans on the plots and placing close to the German average.) followed by Dutch, Belgian and French.

Now add in my results from eurogenes, K36 heat map, K15 plot and a few other gedmatch calculators and it all seems to point in the direction of western/southern Germany.

Ok I understand now. Yes such indirect method is quite good.

[Slavic Italian]

There are a couple strange things in the Dodecad and nMonte pen=0 results.

However, 95% of the tests points me towards southern Germany and the Netherlands, followed by some northern populations.

Overall, well worth it.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=16PM21PG61YwJ2yKPQus9CsYNyErBufWc

You are more mixed with small strands of DNA than what I am by far. Mine did not turn out as bad as I expected.

[Gründig]

You are more mixed with small strands of DNA than what I am by far. Mine did not turn out as bad as I expected.

Yes but many of those small strands are part of the same populations and countries.

For example, my German and Scandinavian is broken down into different specific areas. However, the broken down parts are still part of the bigger picture, which is German and Scandinavian. The the rest are percents under 1 which probably don't mean much.

Im referring to my regular nMonte. For some reason I don't see the regular nMonte on yours. Only the Pen=0.

[Gründig]

I'm going to try this with my ancestryDNA results as well, once I get them.

[Gooding]

There are a couple strange things in the Dodecad and nMonte pen=0 results.

However, 95% of the tests points me towards southern Germany and the Netherlands, followed by some northern populations.

Overall, well worth it.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=16PM21PG61YwJ2yKPQus9CsYNyErBufWc

Very nice results!

[Gründig]

Very nice results!

Thanks

[Gründig]

I will have another test done with my ancestrydna results.

[Teutonski]

I will have another test done with my ancestrydna results.

Lukas is worth the money, I hope he will provide other services one time.

[Rædwald]

Lukas is worth the money, I hope he will provide other services one time.

Yes, absolutely would love to pay for more services in the future!

[Gründig]

Yes, absolutely would love to pay for more services in the future!


Lukas is worth the money, I hope he will provide other services one time.

I agree.

[MountainGuy]

Not really sure about 1/2 of my paper trail Ancestry. But heres my map. Cant believe its only 8 bucks. Many others in the Anthrogenica and 23andMe forums say its very accurate for them.

Part of the description on Lukasz's test states, "In the case of mixed persons with distant parental admixtures, the top results are often midpoint between them, however results lower down the list should show areas from the derived parental admixtures. For many people this is the best way to show their actual regional ancestry."

I dont have any French matches at any of the many DNA testing sites Ive participated in, so I think the high "French" and "Walloons" may be as described above. Still trying to figure out the rest.

81428

[Gründig]

Not really sure about 1/2 of my paper trail Ancestry. But heres my map. Cant believe its only 8 bucks. Many others in the Anthrogenica and 23andMe forums say its very accurate for them.

Part of the description on Lukasz's test states, "In the case of mixed persons with distant parental admixtures, the top results are often midpoint between them, however results lower down the list should show areas from the derived parental admixtures. For many people this is the best way to show their actual regional ancestry."

I dont have any French matches at any of the many DNA testing sites Ive participated in, so I think the high "French" and "Walloons" may be as described above. Still trying to figure out the rest.

81428

Yea, as you said some may be mid points. 8 bucks is a great deal.

[MountainGuy]

Yea, as you said some may be mid points. 8 bucks is a great deal.

Do you see any percentages that would be midpoints or does your test lines up directly with your known ancestry?

Most everyone else seems to be happy with their results. For some, it seems it can sometimes give strange results for those who are very mixed (like say African and Norwegian or something) but this really seems able to break down all of Europe better than any of the big companies can. Ancestry.com just took a big leap backwards with their "England, Wales AND All of Western Europe" category. Meanwhile, a Polish programmer is able to knock it out of the park.

I cant really help verify the validity of this test because, as like I stated before, my paternal side is unknown. But depending on the DNA testing company, I usually score anywhere from 25-50% German/Central European. One or two of the Gedmatch oracles are the only places I ever get "French" anything. Im wondering if it could be a midpoint between my bit of southern euro and my British/Irish.

[Coastal Elite]

Great results! A true German. Like you said, your results are not that different than mine, just more north oriented and more intensely German than a fake German like me.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/13HKeEqxIxl4C04vZY5NXtFL0AcH9G3_7/view

[Gründig]

Great results! A true German. Like you said, your results are not that different than mine, just more north oriented and more intensely German than a fake German like me.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/13HKeEqxIxl4C04vZY5NXtFL0AcH9G3_7/view

Do you really not have any German ancestry?

[Coastal Elite]

Do you really not have any German ancestry?

I may have some Germanic influence on my Romanian side (i'm half Romanian, half Irish) due to "Transylvanian Saxons", who were Germans that settled in Romania in the 12th Century. I also got 13% Germanic Europe my AncestryDNA results (see results in signature below). I'm over 50% Irish, and although Irish are thought of as Celtic, I suspect they actually share many of the same ancient Northern European ancestors as your typical German. I think both Irish and Germans have a strong Indo Eurpean influence that connects them and other Northern Europeans.

I've also heard that people in West and Southern Germany have a stronger Celtic influence compare to Northern Germans but I'm not sure how true that is.

[Slavic Italian]

Great results! A true German. Like you said, your results are not that different than mine, just more north oriented and more intensely German than a fake German like me.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/13HKeEqxIxl4C04vZY5NXtFL0AcH9G3_7/view

You appear to be more German than you think.

[Teutonski]

You appear to be more German than you think.

Same with you even you are ashmaed of it

[Slavic Italian]

Same with you even you are ashmaed of it

I never said I am ashamed of it. I just look at things in a different manner because I am American. Germans are probably the most intelligent people in the world.

[Coastal Elite]

I never said I am ashamed of it. I just look at things in a different manner because I am American. Germans are probably the most intelligent people in the world.

Yeah, Germanic culture has a great history. I'd love to be Swiss German or Bavarian, not a bad association. Hell, I'm drinking a Ayinger Beer tonight.

[Tommie]

I may have some Germanic influence on my Romanian side (i'm half Romanian, half Irish) due to "Transylvanian Saxons", who were Germans that settled in Romania in the 12th Century. I also got 13% Germanic Europe my AncestryDNA results (see results in signature below). I'm over 50% Irish, and although Irish are thought of as Celtic, I suspect they actually share many of the same ancient Northern European ancestors as your typical German. I think both Irish and Germans have a strong Indo Eurpean influence that connects them and other Northern Europeans.

I've also heard that people in West and Southern Germany have a stronger Celtic influence compare to Northern Germans but I'm not sure how true that is.
Saxon influence on Transylvanian Romanians was almost negligible genetically speaking, since they mostly kept to themselves and weren't that numerous anyway. It is more possible to find Hungarians who have mixed with Germans/Saxons.

[Dick]

Saxon influence on Transylvanian Romanians was almost negligible genetically speaking, since they mostly kept to themselves and weren't that numerous anyway. It is more possible to find Hungarians who have mixed with Germans/Saxons.

This guy from 23andme is mixed Saxon+Hungarian from what he told me but they must have mixed with Romanians too judging by his result

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?263505-Half-Saxon-Hungarian(Szekely-)-result-From-Transylvania-Romania

[Tommie]

This guy from 23andme is mixed Saxon+Hungarian from what he told me but they must have mixed with Romanians too judging by his result

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?263505-Half-Saxon-Hungarian(Szekely-)-result-From-Transylvania-Romania
Maybe his Hungarian side could actually be Szekely? I'm not ruling out possible Romanian mix either, but don't Szekelys score more so-called Balkan compared to the rest of Hungarians overall?

[Dick]

I'm not ruling out possible Romanian mix either, but maybe his Hungarian side could actually be Szekely, don't they score more so-called Balkan compared to the rest of Hungarians overall?

No idea man but his Balkan says "Romanian"

[Gründig]

I've also heard that people in West and Southern Germany have a stronger Celtic influence compare to Northern Germans but I'm not sure how true that is.

Seems true. I tend to place in southern and western Germany. I compared myself on nMonte to some ancient populations and I seem to primarily be Germanic but with a decent amount of Celtic as well.

[Lucas]

I just added to reports second, simple heat map based ths time on Euclidean distances (similar to K36 Similitude Map but much better visually). I think it gives another insight to someone autosomal similarity.
Correlation map still is in the report of course.

https://fusiontables.google.com/embedviz?q=select+col39%3E%3E1+from+1xyp2ZGtaVSxY5 a2rv0cFcrdMMse9hSoynjELQ51-&viz=MAP&h=false&lat=45.6662682784403&lng=29.609185086948173&t=1&z=4&l=col39%3E%3E1&y=2&tmplt=2&hml=KML

https://screenshotscdn.firefoxusercontent.com/images/f30c8829-c82b-40cf-99f0-6cf9d6981a52.png

[Slavic Italian]

I just added to reports second, simple heat map based ths time on Euclidean distances (similar to K36 Similitude Map but much better visually). I think it gives another insight to someone autosomal similarity.
Correlation map still is in the report of course.

https://fusiontables.google.com/embedviz?q=select+col39%3E%3E1+from+1xyp2ZGtaVSxY5 a2rv0cFcrdMMse9hSoynjELQ51-&viz=MAP&h=false&lat=45.6662682784403&lng=29.609185086948173&t=1&z=4&l=col39%3E%3E1&y=2&tmplt=2&hml=KML

https://screenshotscdn.firefoxusercontent.com/images/f30c8829-c82b-40cf-99f0-6cf9d6981a52.png

You are loved Lukas. You are loved.

[Gründig]

I just added to reports second, simple heat map based ths time on Euclidean distances (similar to K36 Similitude Map but much better visually). I think it gives another insight to someone autosomal similarity.
Correlation map still is in the report of course.

https://fusiontables.google.com/embedviz?q=select+col39%3E%3E1+from+1xyp2ZGtaVSxY5 a2rv0cFcrdMMse9hSoynjELQ51-&viz=MAP&h=false&lat=45.6662682784403&lng=29.609185086948173&t=1&z=4&l=col39%3E%3E1&y=2&tmplt=2&hml=KML

https://screenshotscdn.firefoxusercontent.com/images/f30c8829-c82b-40cf-99f0-6cf9d6981a52.png

Cool, how do I go about getting one?

[Lucas]

Cool, how do I go about getting one?

First, sorry that I post in your topic but there isn't specific one and it is more recent about K36 reports.

It costs 2,5 Euro separately (Paypal steal 0,5 euro from it).

And of course if someone will buy full report it will be included.

[Lucas]

You are loved Lukas. You are loved.

I will add it to your report today.

[Gründig]

My ancestryDNA lm genetics results seems to plot me a little bit more north, otherwise they are very very similar.

[Bogdan]

Interesting results, Gründig. What test do you now feel has been most accurate from what you know of your paper trail?

[Gründig]

Interesting results, Gründig. What test do you now feel has been most accurate from what you know of your paper trail?

They are both very very close. I would say ancestryDNA only because it doesn't have the strange fraction percentages 23andme had.