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Raizen
09-23-2018, 11:22 PM
why the fuck i don't score southwestern europe? i am colonial brazilian !

https://i.imgur.com/XVkd1Fk.png?1

Raizen
09-23-2018, 11:33 PM
bump for help

Rgvgjhvv
09-23-2018, 11:33 PM
DNA.Land is terrible

Raizen
09-23-2018, 11:37 PM
DNA.Land is terrible

i have very high finnish too, not even northern europeans that i have seen score that much, very weird

Cristiano viejo
09-23-2018, 11:38 PM
why the fuck i don't score southwestern europe? i am colonial brazilian !


Bad luck, boy :noidea:

Catarinense1998
09-23-2018, 11:41 PM
How do you get to make DNA test in Brazil?

Jana
09-23-2018, 11:42 PM
Seems your European ancestry is mainly Italian.

Raizen
09-23-2018, 11:42 PM
How do you get to make DNA test in Brazil?

jeitinho brasileiro

Raizen
09-23-2018, 11:43 PM
Seems your European ancestry is mainly Italian.

i don't even have known italian ancestor, i want my badass bandeirante ancestry. what do you think about the finnish btw

Catarinense1998
09-23-2018, 11:45 PM
jeitinho brasileiro

kkkkk Teve algum problema com o correio?

Jana
09-23-2018, 11:46 PM
i don't even have known italian ancestor, i want my badass bandeirante ancestry. what do you think about the finnish btw

Probably misinterpreted Amerindian.

Raizen
09-23-2018, 11:47 PM
kkkkk Teve algum problema com o correio?

nenhum problema

Raizen
09-23-2018, 11:51 PM
Probably misinterpreted Amerindian.

impossible, i don't get more than 4% amerindian on any calculator

v3
East_European 5.93
West_European 28.58
Mediterranean 28.63
Neo_African 8.15
West_Asian 9.02
South_Asian 0.65
Northeast_Asian 3.38
Southeast_Asian 0.29
East_African 1.49
Southwest_Asian 4.07
Northwest_African 5.28
Palaeo_African 4.54
----------------------------------------
k7b

South_Asian 1.15
West_Asian 11.04
Siberian 3.07
African 14.13
Southern 23.34
Atlantic_Baltic 46.85
East_Asian 0.43

Token
09-24-2018, 08:24 AM
85% Italian.

Thracian
09-24-2018, 08:38 AM
Don't take dna.land seriously. I have 0% Balkan and 51% Italian lol. You should share your original (I mean the company like ftdna etc.) and gedmatch results.

Jana
09-24-2018, 08:42 AM
...

My mother gets 14% Finnish on DNA land, and I'm not aware of such ancestry in her family, so I advise you not to take DNA land too literaly, although it's good tool.

Norb
09-24-2018, 08:43 AM
My mother gets 14% Finnish on DNA land, and I'm not aware of such ancestry in her family, so I advise you not to take DNA land too literaly, although it's good tool.

I score 4% Finnish on DNA, what do you think it is?

Jana
09-24-2018, 08:55 AM
I score 4% Finnish on DNA, what do you think it is?

Some ANE link, perhaps :) Or Viking ancestry.

Anglojew
09-24-2018, 09:29 AM
Do. You like being tri-racial?

Raizen
09-24-2018, 11:33 AM
Do. You like being tri-racial?
indifferent, i don't care in the slightest about race

CommonSense
09-24-2018, 12:02 PM
DNA.LAND gave me weird percentages when I uploaded my raw data to it. You should try some other service.

Raizen
09-24-2018, 12:24 PM
My mother gets 14% Finnish on DNA land, and I'm not aware of such ancestry in her family, so I advise you not to take DNA land too literaly, although it's good tool.

thanks, how much african, amerindian and european am i?

1 Neolithic 28.7
2 Caucasian 17.91
3 Steppe 13.97
4 NorthEastEuropean 12.87
5 Subsaharian 11.32
6 NorthAfrican 6.53
7 Amerindian 2.76
8 Indian 1.68
9 Siberian 1.09
10 Ancestor 1.01
11 EastAfrican 0.93
12 Arctic 0.91
13 NearEast 0.21
14 Oceanic 0.1

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Portuguese (Portugal) 12.79
2 Swiss (Switzerland) 13.09
3 Italian (Friul) 14.13
4 Provencal (Provence) 14.24
5 Spanish (Canarias) 14.65
6 Italian (NorthIitaly) 14.85
7 Spanish (Extremadura) 15.1
8 Spanish (Spain) 15.2
9 Corsican (Corsica) 15.21
10 Spanish (Murcia) 15.35
11 Spanish (Baleares) 15.5
12 Spanish (Galicia) 15.53
13 German (SouthGermany) 16.03
14 Austrian (Austria) 16.04
15 Jew (Belmonte) 16.39
16 Spanish (Andalucia) 16.48
17 Spanish (Castilla_y_Leon) 16.51
18 Spanish (Cataluna) 16.76
19 French (NorthwestFrance) 16.86
20 Italian (Bergamo) 16.9

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 88.6% Portuguese (Portugal) + 11.4% Gambian (Gambia) @ 5.26
2 88.6% Portuguese (Portugal) + 11.4% Mandenka (Gambia) @ 5.28
3 88.7% Portuguese (Portugal) + 11.3% Mende (Sierra_Leone) @ 5.29
4 87.8% Portuguese (Portugal) + 12.2% Bantu (SA_Ovambo) @ 5.29
5 85.9% Portuguese (Portugal) + 14.1% Afroamerican (Denver) @ 5.3
6 87.7% Portuguese (Portugal) + 12.3% Bantu (SA_Herero) @ 5.31
7 89.1% Portuguese (Portugal) + 10.9% Yoruba (Nigeria) @ 5.34
8 89.2% Portuguese (Portugal) + 10.8% Esan (Nigeria) @ 5.35
9 80.8% Spanish (Extremadura) + 19.2% Siddi (Makran) @ 5.39
10 83.8% Portuguese (Portugal) + 16.2% Siddi (Makran) @ 5.6
11 80.8% Spanish (Spain) + 19.2% Siddi (Makran) @ 5.73
12 86.9% Portuguese (Portugal) + 13.1% Luhya (Kenya) @ 5.87
13 86.7% Portuguese (Portugal) + 13.3% Luo (Kenya) @ 5.95
14 86.4% Spanish (Baleares) + 13.6% Mandenka (Gambia) @ 6.08
15 85.4% Spanish (Baleares) + 14.6% Bantu (SA_Herero) @ 6.1
16 86.4% Spanish (Baleares) + 13.6% Gambian (Gambia) @ 6.12
17 84.1% Spanish (Baleares) + 15.9% Luhya (Kenya) @ 6.23
18 83.9% Spanish (Baleares) + 16.1% Luo (Kenya) @ 6.27
19 86.6% Spanish (Baleares) + 13.4% Mende (Sierra_Leone) @ 6.34
20 86.7% Spanish (Spain) + 13.3% Mandenka (Gambia) @ 6.4
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
v3
East_European 5.93
West_European 28.58
Mediterranean 28.63
Neo_African 8.15
West_Asian 9.02
South_Asian 0.65
Northeast_Asian 3.38
Southeast_Asian 0.29
East_African 1.49
Southwest_Asian 4.07
Northwest_African 5.28
Palaeo_African 4.54
----------------------------------------
k7b

South_Asian 1.15
West_Asian 11.04
Siberian 3.07
African 14.13
Southern 23.34
Atlantic_Baltic 46.85
East_Asian 0.43

Leto
09-24-2018, 01:32 PM
Try MDLP World, it's good for SSA.

Raizen
09-24-2018, 05:13 PM
Try MDLP World, it's good for SSA.
according to the spreadsheet, portuguese score 2% ssa there, so something like 85% portuguese, 11% subsaharan and 4% amerindian?

West-Asian 10.90
North-European-Mesolithic 1.94
Indo-Tibetan 0.38
Mesoamerican 1.37
Arctic-Amerind 0.88
South-America_Amerind 1.42
Indian -
North-Siberean 0.17
Atlantic_Mediterranean_Neolithic 32.55
Samoedic 0.53
Indo-Iranian -
East-Siberean -
North-East-European 23.33
South-African 0.35
North-Amerind 0.71
Sub-Saharian 12.79
East-South-Asian -
Near_East 11.28
Melanesian 0.54
Paleo-Siberian -
Austronesian -

Leto
09-24-2018, 05:19 PM
according to the spreadsheet, portuguese score 2% ssa there, so something like 85% portuguese, 11% subsaharan and 4% amerindian?

West-Asian 10.90
North-European-Mesolithic 1.94
Indo-Tibetan 0.38
Mesoamerican 1.37
Arctic-Amerind 0.88
South-America_Amerind 1.42
Indian -
North-Siberean 0.17
Atlantic_Mediterranean_Neolithic 32.55
Samoedic 0.53
Indo-Iranian -
East-Siberean -
North-East-European 23.33
South-African 0.35
North-Amerind 0.71
Sub-Saharian 12.79
East-South-Asian -
Near_East 11.28
Melanesian 0.54
Paleo-Siberian -
Austronesian -
This isn't MDLP World, bro. Look at the bottom of the drop-down list.

Argentano
09-24-2018, 05:20 PM
thanks, how much african, amerindian and european am i?

1 Neolithic 28.7
2 Caucasian 17.91
3 Steppe 13.97
4 NorthEastEuropean 12.87
5 Subsaharian 11.32
6 NorthAfrican 6.53
7 Amerindian 2.76
8 Indian 1.68
9 Siberian 1.09
10 Ancestor 1.01
11 EastAfrican 0.93
12 Arctic 0.91
13 NearEast 0.21
14 Oceanic 0.1

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Portuguese (Portugal) 12.79
2 Swiss (Switzerland) 13.09
3 Italian (Friul) 14.13
4 Provencal (Provence) 14.24
5 Spanish (Canarias) 14.65
6 Italian (NorthIitaly) 14.85
7 Spanish (Extremadura) 15.1
8 Spanish (Spain) 15.2
9 Corsican (Corsica) 15.21
10 Spanish (Murcia) 15.35
11 Spanish (Baleares) 15.5
12 Spanish (Galicia) 15.53
13 German (SouthGermany) 16.03
14 Austrian (Austria) 16.04
15 Jew (Belmonte) 16.39
16 Spanish (Andalucia) 16.48
17 Spanish (Castilla_y_Leon) 16.51
18 Spanish (Cataluna) 16.76
19 French (NorthwestFrance) 16.86
20 Italian (Bergamo) 16.9

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 88.6% Portuguese (Portugal) + 11.4% Gambian (Gambia) @ 5.26
2 88.6% Portuguese (Portugal) + 11.4% Mandenka (Gambia) @ 5.28
3 88.7% Portuguese (Portugal) + 11.3% Mende (Sierra_Leone) @ 5.29
4 87.8% Portuguese (Portugal) + 12.2% Bantu (SA_Ovambo) @ 5.29
5 85.9% Portuguese (Portugal) + 14.1% Afroamerican (Denver) @ 5.3
6 87.7% Portuguese (Portugal) + 12.3% Bantu (SA_Herero) @ 5.31
7 89.1% Portuguese (Portugal) + 10.9% Yoruba (Nigeria) @ 5.34
8 89.2% Portuguese (Portugal) + 10.8% Esan (Nigeria) @ 5.35
9 80.8% Spanish (Extremadura) + 19.2% Siddi (Makran) @ 5.39
10 83.8% Portuguese (Portugal) + 16.2% Siddi (Makran) @ 5.6
11 80.8% Spanish (Spain) + 19.2% Siddi (Makran) @ 5.73
12 86.9% Portuguese (Portugal) + 13.1% Luhya (Kenya) @ 5.87
13 86.7% Portuguese (Portugal) + 13.3% Luo (Kenya) @ 5.95
14 86.4% Spanish (Baleares) + 13.6% Mandenka (Gambia) @ 6.08
15 85.4% Spanish (Baleares) + 14.6% Bantu (SA_Herero) @ 6.1
16 86.4% Spanish (Baleares) + 13.6% Gambian (Gambia) @ 6.12
17 84.1% Spanish (Baleares) + 15.9% Luhya (Kenya) @ 6.23
18 83.9% Spanish (Baleares) + 16.1% Luo (Kenya) @ 6.27
19 86.6% Spanish (Baleares) + 13.4% Mende (Sierra_Leone) @ 6.34
20 86.7% Spanish (Spain) + 13.3% Mandenka (Gambia) @ 6.4
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
v3
East_European 5.93
West_European 28.58
Mediterranean 28.63
Neo_African 8.15
West_Asian 9.02
South_Asian 0.65
Northeast_Asian 3.38
Southeast_Asian 0.29
East_African 1.49
Southwest_Asian 4.07
Northwest_African 5.28
Palaeo_African 4.54
----------------------------------------
k7b

South_Asian 1.15
West_Asian 11.04
Siberian 3.07
African 14.13
Southern 23.34
Atlantic_Baltic 46.85
East_Asian 0.43

I think gedmatch tends to be the most reliable. Notice how gedmatch is giving you an 88% portuguese result

Add eurogenes k15 if you can

Catarinense1998
09-24-2018, 05:22 PM
Octoroon?

Raizen
09-24-2018, 05:25 PM
Octoroon?

i think 85% portuguese, 11% west african, 4% amerindian

Raizen
09-24-2018, 05:28 PM
This isn't MDLP World, bro. Look at the bottom of the drop-down list.

sorry

Caucaus_Parsia 10.09
Middle_East 12.98
Indian -
South_and_West_European 38.82
Melanesian 0.43
Sub_Saharian 11.95
North_and_East_European 18.59
Arctic_Amerind 1.78
East_Asian -
Paleo_African 2.10
Mesoamerican 2.50
North_Asian 0.75

Catarinense1998
09-24-2018, 05:32 PM
i think 85% portuguese, 11% west african, 4% amerindian

I saw the IBGE statistics in Rio de Janeiro, and you scored the "stardart white" percentage. 86% Euro + 14% SSA and Native.

Raizen
09-24-2018, 05:34 PM
I saw the IBGE statistics in Rio de Janeiro, and you scored the "stardart white" percentage. 86% Euro + 14% SSA and Native.

i'm considered white by brazilians but i consider myself mulatto

Catarinense1998
09-24-2018, 05:36 PM
i'm considered white by brazilians but i consider myself mulatto

Really? Genetically, you're trirracial. But, I understand. Mulatto is about someone with Euro + African background, not specifying the percentages.

nittionia
09-24-2018, 05:39 PM
I have 30% southwestern euro on dna.land (a large chunk Sardinian). Could some Iberian be mistaken for Sardinian then?

Leto
09-24-2018, 06:11 PM
sorry

Caucaus_Parsia 10.09
Middle_East 12.98
Indian -
South_and_West_European 38.82
Melanesian 0.43
Sub_Saharian 11.95
North_and_East_European 18.59
Arctic_Amerind 1.78
East_Asian -
Paleo_African 2.10
Mesoamerican 2.50
North_Asian 0.75


i'm considered white by brazilians but i consider myself mulatto
Mulatto? You are only 14% SSA and 5% Amerindian according to MDLP (I included the North Asian, it must be related to the Amerindians in your case).

Really? Genetically, you're trirracial. But, I understand. Mulatto is about someone with Euro + African background, not specifying the percentages.
I think the Native American part is too small to be counted as a 'third race'.

Leto
09-24-2018, 06:12 PM
Really? Genetically, you're trirracial. But, I understand. Mulatto is about someone with Euro + African background, not specifying the percentages.
Mulatto is half SSA and half European.

Catarinense1998
09-24-2018, 06:17 PM
Mulatto is half SSA and half European.

My fault. Sorry.

Raizen
09-24-2018, 06:29 PM
Mulatto? You are only 14% SSA and 5% Amerindian according to MDLP (I included the North Asian, it must be related to the Amerindians in your case).
my european ancestry is portuguese, i summed it up and portuguese score 3.10 ssa + amerindian according to mdlp spreadsheet. see by yourself https://www.gedmatch.com/pop_avgs2.php
so i'm 85% portuguese, 11%ssa + 4% amerindian if you sum up my components
i consider myself mulatto btw, what is the problem? i'm part african

Argentano
09-24-2018, 07:51 PM
my european ancestry is portuguese, i summed it up and portuguese score 3.10 ssa + amerindian according to mdlp spreadsheet. see by yourself https://www.gedmatch.com/pop_avgs2.php
so i'm 85% portuguese, 11%ssa + 4% amerindian if you sum up my components
i consider myself mulatto btw, what is the problem? i'm part african

You sent me your eurogenes k15. Here is you compared with portuguese samples i found all in eurogenes k15


Eurasian -- South Asian -- Amerindian -- Northeast African -- SSA

46 Samples Portugal 95,28-- 0,31-- 0,96-- 1,94 --1,51
Raizen 79,45-- 0,00-- 5,65 --0,87-- 14,02

Leto
09-24-2018, 07:57 PM
my european ancestry is portuguese, i summed it up and portuguese score 3.10 ssa + amerindian according to mdlp spreadsheet. see by yourself https://www.gedmatch.com/pop_avgs2.php
so i'm 85% portuguese, 11%ssa + 4% amerindian if you sum up my components
i consider myself mulatto btw, what is the problem? i'm part african
Doesn't matter where the SSA comes from, the Portuguese are not a race. You are 14% black, not 11.

Raizen
09-24-2018, 08:02 PM
Doesn't matter where the SSA comes from, the Portuguese are not a race. You are 14% black, not 11.

ok, but i want to know my recent ancestry, not race. i'm not interested in my race as i am obviously mixed

Argentano
09-24-2018, 08:21 PM
Raizen you compared with porruguese kits, you are the last one. EURO ONLY.

Your euro falls perfectly in the Portuguese spectrum

https://i.imgur.com/ROsPiZV.png

Token
09-25-2018, 12:15 PM
Raizen you compared with porruguese kits, you are the last one. EURO ONLY.

Your euro falls perfectly in the Portuguese spectrum

https://i.imgur.com/ROsPiZV.png

This guy has at least 10% Italian ancestry. I tried some models for him, this is the best i could reach.

"distance%=2.2522 / distance=0.022522"

Central_Portugal 74.05
Yoruba 12.20
North_Italy 5.50
Ashkenazi 4.90
Karitiana 3.35

Overall, i'd say around 84.5% European. The fst distance improves when i use Central Portugal samples so his Portuguese ancestry might come from this region. Do you really expect someone ~85% European to be fully colonial? Fully colonial Brazilians are no more than 75% European, i can show you some truly colonial kits if you want.

Argentano
09-26-2018, 12:29 AM
This guy has at least 10% Italian ancestry. I tried some models for him, this is the best i could reach.

"distance%=2.2522 / distance=0.022522"

Central_Portugal 74.05
Yoruba 12.20
North_Italy 5.50
Ashkenazi 4.90
Karitiana 3.35

Overall, i'd say around 84.5% European. The fst distance improves when i use Central Portugal samples so his Portuguese ancestry might come from this region. Do you really expect someone ~85% European to be fully colonial? Fully colonial Brazilians are no more than 75% European, i can show you some truly colonial kits if you want.

Please send me those kits via PM so i add them to the my chart