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The Lawspeaker
04-13-2011, 12:41 AM
Germany threatens to reintroduce border checks in row over Tunisian refugees
Germany has threatened to reinstate border checks "against the interests" of the EU's free movement zone in an escalating row with Italy over Tunisian refugees.

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Tunisian refugees disembark from the ferry Flaminia in the port of Civitavecchia, near Rome.

Italy has promised to give over 20,000 Tunisian refugees temporary visas allowing them to travel freely in the border-free Schengen zone, which covers all EU countries except Britain and Ireland.

Over 26,000 illegal migrants have reached Italy by boat through the small Mediterranean island of Lampedusa, which is close to Tunisia. The Italian authorities have insisted other European countries must help take the burden.

Italy said last week that it would give six-month residence permits to all the migrants who have arrived since the beginning of the year.

Franco Frattini, the Italian foreign minister, said: "Thousands, tens of thousands, maybe hundreds of thousands of migrants could come from Tunisia. It's a purely European affair."

But during bad-tempered European talks on Monday, Germany warned Italy that it will not accept the migrants and that Berlin will tear up the EU's border-free travel arrangements to stop them.

"We cannot accept that a lot of employment migrants enter Europe through Italy," said Hans-Peter Friedrich, Germany's interior minister at a meeting of EU justice ministers in Luxembourg.

"It cannot be in the interest of Europe for us to be forced to introduce new controls, so we hope the Italians will fulfil their duties."

Silvio Berlusconi, the Italian Prime Minister, has described the influx as a "human tsunami" that could lead to the break-up of the EU unless countries, such as Germany, accept quotas of refugees.

"Europe cannot get out of this. Europe is either something real and concrete, or it doesn't exist. In that case, it is better if we separate and each follows his own fears and selfish concerns," he said at the weekend.

Italian coastguards on Monday said that two more boats carrying 226 people form Tunisia had arrived in an exodus which began after the country's dictator, Zine al-Abidine Ben Ali, was overthrown in mid-January.

Roberto Maroni, the Italian interior minister, said Italy had to “consider if it is still worth being part of the EU” after the hostile reaction to its plan. ”It's fine when Italy contributes to euro bail-outs, to wars, but on this very specific issue of helping us out, EU states are absolutely not willing to show solidarity,” he said.

If Italy issues travel documents to the Tunisians, Germany will respond by reversing the 1995 decision to abolish border controls, in a major blow to the EU.

France has warned it will also reinstate checks and that it will send the migrants back to Italy.

Maria Fekter, Austria's interior minister, said: "Letting these people in would only pave the way for crime, and as minister in charge of security I cannot accept that."

Joachim Herrmann, the interior minister for Bavaria, warned he would stop the refugees by using regional powers to reintroduce border controls on the German-Austrian border.

"We will not accept that the Italian government simply declares that the Tunisian migrants are tourists and uses this to push them into other countries," he told the Welt am Sonntag newspaper.

"They must be sent back to their homelands."

Source: The Telegraph (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/germany/8443632/Germany-threatens-to-reintroduce-border-checks-in-row-over-Tunisian-refugees.html) (11 April 2011)

poiuytrewq0987
04-13-2011, 12:49 AM
I like how Rome and Berlin both are purposefully sabotaging the EU. :evil

Loki
04-13-2011, 02:53 AM
Well done on Germany. What's the matter with Italian thinking in this regard? Why can't they just send them back to Tunisia? I don't understand it. Is there a legal obligation for them to take them in?

Electronic God-Man
04-13-2011, 03:06 AM
Well done on Germany. What's the matter with Italian thinking in this regard? Why can't they just send them back to Tunisia? I don't understand it. Is there a legal obligation for them to take them in?

With the admittedly limited knowledge of Italians that I have, I would hazard to guess that they figure if the Tunisians are not on Italian soil then they are no longer a problem for Italians. Plus, by giving them the ability to move on instead of turning them around they won't risk being marred with accusations of racism.

From an Italian's perspective it's a win-win.

poiuytrewq0987
04-13-2011, 07:54 PM
Well done on Germany. What's the matter with Italian thinking in this regard? Why can't they just send them back to Tunisia? I don't understand it. Is there a legal obligation for them to take them in?

From a conspiracy theorist's point of view. Italy is purposefully doing this so as they'd know, Germany would rise in protest to this and break the unity of the EU. We need less supranational organizations, not more.

Albion
04-19-2011, 12:20 PM
Germany threatens to reintroduce border checks in row over Tunisian refugees:
GOOD!

Italy is taking the piss! Why the hell are they simply allowing all the Tunisians and Libyans to use the unrest as an excuse to mass-migrate?

alzo zero
04-19-2011, 12:39 PM
Well done on Germany. What's the matter with Italian thinking in this regard? Why can't they just send them back to Tunisia?
Because then the German and French do-gooders in Bruxelles would wag their fingers at Italy because of the "inhuman" treatment reserved to the poor refugees. :rolleyes:

alzo zero
04-19-2011, 12:40 PM
double post.

Albion
04-19-2011, 12:44 PM
Because then the German and French do-gooders in Bruxelles would wag their fingers at Italy because of the "inhuman" treatment reserved to the poor refugees. :rolleyes:

Yes, I thought once someone lands and claims refugee status its pretty hard to shift them. The UN writes a lot of it too I believe.

alzo zero
04-19-2011, 12:47 PM
Yes, I thought once someone lands and claims refugee status its pretty hard to shift them. The UN writes a lot of it too I believe.
Correct.

Eldritch
04-19-2011, 01:13 PM
While this is good in itself, we (that is, other European countries) should show more solidarity towards Italy.

The majority of the people of Italy don't want them (I'm certain of this), nor do the rest of Europe. That is mandate and justification enough.

They should be given a ride back to where-ever they came from. A water bottle should be thrown in as a reward for good behaviour on the boat.

Now, whether anything approaching this solution will actually happen, well .... :coffee:

Svanhild
04-20-2011, 11:51 AM
While this is good in itself, we (that is, other European countries) should show more solidarity towards Italy.

Why? Italy has a huge marine on the mediterranean sea. They should use it to send back the immigrants to Tunisia as soon as they leave their boats at Lampedusa instead of celebrating the hundredth Bunga-Bunga party with Moroccan muslim whores.

Peerkons
04-20-2011, 12:10 PM
Where is the problem? Just shoot 'em down.
They have no right to cross EU(Italy's in this case) border.
http://www.ww2incolor.com/d/529774-1/40mm+Bofors+Anti-Aircraft+gun+being+used+on+a+Finnish+Navy+boat

Eldritch
04-20-2011, 12:12 PM
Why? Italy has a huge marine on the mediterranean sea. They should use it to send back the immigrants to Tunisia as soon as they leave their boats at Lampedusa instead of celebrating the hundredth Bunga-Bunga party with Moroccan muslim whores.

If you read my post again, you'll see that helping them achieve that is the kind of solidarity I had in mind. ;)