Why don't we have a Transnistria subforum?

[Peterski]

Loki, you love Putin and Russia and you do not recognize Transnistria?:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?39-The-Apricity-Regional

It is de facto independent but not fully recognized, just like Kosovo.

Yet Kosovo subforum is there and Transnistria subforum not. Why?

[Peterski]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mk_rj1Nba2M

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

Do they even have internet in Transnistria?

[Peterski]

Do they even have internet in Transnistria?

да

[Seya]

Why do u care?

[Peterski]

Why do u care?

This area (Transnistria) used to be part of Poland until 1793. Polish border was along the Dniester at that time.

Russia annexed it during the 2nd Partition of Poland in 1793.

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

Transnistria is just a ticking bomb like Crimea, Abkhazia and Ossetia.

As soon as Moldova trains to regain control over it, Russia will have the excuse they wanted to finally annex it.

[Ülev]

expected thread!

[Peterski]

Well this area was always mostly Slavic-inhabited. Between the 1300s and the 1700s it was part of the Kingdom of Poland. I'm not even sure why do Romanians claim it? Sure, there is a Romanian minority there. But Dniester is a natural border.

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

Well this area was always mostly Slavic-inhabited. Between the 1300s and the 1700s it was part of the Kingdom of Poland.

I'm not even sure why do Romanians claim it? Sure, there is a Romanian minority there. But Dniester is a natural border.

Moldovans used to be the majority but the population has been decreasing since many left and keep leaving Transnitria.

[Seya]

Well this area was always mostly Slavic-inhabited. Between the 1300s and the 1700s it was part of the Kingdom of Poland.

I'm not even sure why do Romanians claim it? Sure, there is a Romanian minority there. But Dniester is a natural border.

Romanians never claimed it. Moldova does and they are right to do so

[Loki]

Okay here's the deal... once we have more than 10 Transnistrian members, let me know and we can open a subforum. ;)

[Peterski]

Moldovans used to be the majority

Moldovans are just a mix of Romanians and Slavs. A manufactured identity.


Okay here's the deal... once we have more than 10 Transnistrian members, let me know and we can open a subforum. ;)

Why? You did not have the same requirement for Kosovo etc.


Romanians never claimed it. Moldova does and they are right to do so

I support idependent Transnistria and annexation of the rest of Moldova by Romania.

[Joso]

good idea

[Seya]

Moldovans are just a mix of Romanians and Slavs. A manufactured identity.



You did not have the same requirement for Kosovo etc.

and? they don't have the right to have a country?

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

Moldovans are just a mix of Romanians and Slavs. A manufactured identity.



You did not have the same requirement for Kosovo etc.

Why are you talking about what you don't know. Most Bessarabian intellectuals considered themselves to be part of the Romanian nation or some form of Pan-Romanianism.

[Peterski]

and? they don't have the right to have a country?

Transnistrians? They do, based on self-determination.

Moldovans probably would prefer to join Romania anyway. But they can't do it until they let Transnistria divorce them.

BTW, there is also the issue of autonomous Gagauzia:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gagauzia

[Seya]

Transnistrians? They do, based on self-determination.

Moldovans probably would prefer to join Romania.

BTW, there is also the issue of autonomous Gagauzia:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gagauzia

i meant moldovians. transnistria is part of moldova and it should stay that way. gagauzia is an autonomous region. Transnistria can have the same statute

[Peterski]

transnistria is part of moldova

Only on paper, de facto Moldova has no control over it. Why does fiction on paper matter and facts do not?

[Seya]

Only on paper, de facto Moldova has no control over it. Why does fiction on paper matter and facts do not?

what happened there was not a natural phenomena. there are still a lot of romanian ethnics living in there. many have been imprisoned, others forced to leave they home and the ones that are still living in Transylvania are living a nightmare. they are kept without electricity and gas only to force them to leave.

[Peterski]

Okay here's the deal... once we have more than 10 Transnistrian members, let me know and we can open a subforum. ;)

We already have 10 Russian members. And that's the same thing, most of Transnistrians are Russians.


Moldovans used to be the majority but the population has been decreasing since many left and keep leaving Transnitria.

So the same story as with Serbs in Kosovo?

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

We already have 10 Russian members. And that's the same thing, most of Transnistrians are Russians.



So the same story as with Serbs in Kosovo?

I am not as familiar with Kosovo but you as a Pole should know better that during the URSS they relocated many Russians to the other Republics (hence why Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia have significant minorities now, per example), Moldova was no exception.

[Peterski]

I am not as familiar with Kosovo but you as a Pole should know better that during the URSS they relocated many Russians to the other Republics (hence why Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia have significant minorities now, per example), Moldova was no exception.

Those Russians were invited to replace population shortages caused by extermination of Jews and expulsion of Poles.

The same happened also in Belarus and Ukraine (data below, from Piotr Eberhardt's book):

http://i.imgur.com/9LMM7iD.png

[Jana]

Isn't it a remnant of Soviet times colonisation ?

Lol, Slavs there are not even Ukranians but mostly Russians. That should tell you how ''natural'' this para-state is.

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

Those Russians were invited to replace population shortages caused by extermination of Jews and expulsion of Poles.

The same happened also in Belarus and Ukraine (data below):

http://i.imgur.com/9LMM7iD.png

Invited is a tricky word.

While that might have been one of the reasons, lets not be completely naive. It was as well part of a process to create a broader Russophone sphere in the other Republics. Similar to what Franco did in Spain, he relocated Castillians to regions like Galiza, Basque Country and Catalonia to dilute them among them, unify Spain and make them more pro-Madrid after a few generations.

[Peterski]

Well, I would love to read some opinions about it by Transnistrians, in a Transnistrian subforum.

[Seya]

Those Russians were invited to replace population shortages caused by extermination of Jews and expulsion of Poles.

The same happened also in Belarus and Ukraine (data below, from Piotr Eberhardt's book):

http://i.imgur.com/9LMM7iD.png

population shortage? 550 000 moldovians have been deported between 1940 and 1948..most of them in Kazakh steppes. soviets tried to mix the population as much as possible to prevent any nationalistic movements. there is still a big community of moldavians in kazakhstan

[Peterski]

Isn't it a remnant of Soviet times colonisation ?

Lol, Slavs there are not even Ukranians but mostly Russians. That should tell you how ''natural'' this para-state is.

But entire Southern Ukraine has a lot of Russians, including places like Odessa. And Crimea has a Russian majority.

It is not due to colonisation from Soviet times, but back from the 1700s and 1800s when "New Russia" was formed:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novorossiya_Governorate

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novorossiya

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4d/New_Russia_on_territory_of_Ukraine.png

[Ülev]

similar situation with so called "Recovered Territories (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recovered_Territories)" in Poland, there came not only Poles from Kresy (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kresy) (Lviv, Vilnus etc.) but "pure" Russians - to introduce and "perpetuate" communism in Poland after 1945

Marx & Engels wrote - to impose new political system there is a need to kill up to 10% of society, clever guys from USSR modified that a little and also added 10%

[Peterski]

Erich, are you a Russian agent or a German agent.

[Ülev]

Erich, are you a Russian agent or a German agent.

realist

[Peterski]

Erich... von Zelewski ???

[Ülev]

Erich, are you a Russian agent or a German agent.


Erich... von Zelewski ???

for a moment I thought....
who is interested in quarreling Poles and Germans and weakening Mitteleuropa (Central Europe).... no, definitely not, I am not Russian agent

[Veneda]

Erich... von Zelewski ???

He is E-Ryś lol

[Peterski]

I really like their anthem.