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Silver Lining
09-27-2018, 09:27 PM
10 years ago, everyone except the neo-nazis and extreme right (and even them) hated Hitler.

I have the feeling that in the last few years his reputation has a little bit, well, improved?

Mostly because of liberal madness, perhaps?

Just asking for a friend.

I still don't like him very much, also there is this weird astrology stuff behind him.

Smeagol
09-27-2018, 09:35 PM
Yes, it's more positive than a few years ago. Even since I was a kid I was always fascinated by Hitler though.

Thanas Django
09-27-2018, 09:36 PM
Hitler deep down was a psychopath who hated humans. That's also one of the reasons why he lost the war.

rusich
09-27-2018, 09:48 PM
shitler

Black Panther
09-27-2018, 09:53 PM
Worst Human being to have ever existed.

Galěndas
09-27-2018, 09:55 PM
Worst Human being to have ever existed.
He loved animals and was a vegetarian

Black Panther
09-27-2018, 09:57 PM
He loved animals and was a vegetarian

He took the lives of hundreds of people like me.

pulstar
09-27-2018, 10:01 PM
No, still a founding father of emos

KMack
09-27-2018, 10:03 PM
Hitler deep down was a psychopath who hated humans. That's also one of the reasons why he lost the war.
There would have not been a war lol.

Columella
09-27-2018, 10:07 PM
The problem is that it is made almost impossible to judge him and take an indipendent position.
and he was the main responsible for this. Those who hate him start from the same point of those who adore him.
Maybe In a few centuries.
However I can judge his watercolours.
Shows technical skills and precision but subjects are boring and traditional that cannot match geniuses like Schiele that were on Vienna at the same time http://www.germaniainternational.com/Images4/AuthenticHitlerOilPaintingChurch-07.jpg

Silver Lining
09-27-2018, 10:21 PM
Hitler deep down was a psychopath who hated humans. That's also one of the reasons why he lost the war.

That I doubt.


Yes, it's more positive than a few years ago. Even since I was a kid I was always fascinated by Hitler though.

Explain.


Worst Human being to have ever existed.

Okay, I think this is pushing it. Perhaps he has the highest score in "bad human index" x "actual power achieved". But would he beat his homebody Stalin? Problem is, Hitler is mostly a cartoon character, so I doubt that many people truly "hate" him. He is like Emperor Palpatine. Stalin was never integrated into our pop culture.


He took the lives of hundreds of people like me.

What kind of group do you belong to?

===

It still baffles me that Ron Unz wrote and published an article in which he casts doubt on the mainstream holocaust narrative.

But still, some people think Hitler was only a puppet or a "weak dictator" at best with more powerful people calling the shots.

Peterski
09-27-2018, 10:27 PM
Mostly because of liberal madness, perhaps?

He is responsible for this liberal madness, which is an allergic reaction to what he did.

Smeagol
09-27-2018, 10:29 PM
Explain.

I don't know if I can believe all the stories of him committing genocide and such anymore because his reign is so politicized. Lots of people/ideologies had something to gain by lying about him.

Slavic Italian
09-27-2018, 10:35 PM
I have read many comments on youtube favorable to Hitler due to liberalism. Because of all the problems today many people believe these problems would not have existed had Hitler won. I know people who had ties to people close to Hitler. I know someone who was close to Max Wunsche. I have not spoken to him in years. I have some insights others do not have but I am sworn to keep these things to myself which I always will. He obviously was intelligent but do some deep research. He had powerful backers and people just do not come into power. Other powerful people have to back them. You have to have powerful allies to accomplish anything significant in this world. At this stage none of this matters. This is how the world is and nothing is going to change it other than those who are here now.

Black Panther
09-27-2018, 10:36 PM
What kind of group do you belong to?

He killed and sterilized mixed race males in Germany.

Ülev
09-27-2018, 10:37 PM
.......

Slavic Italian
09-27-2018, 10:38 PM
He killed and sterilized mixed race males in Germany.

Everybody is mixed. That is not entirely true. That being said he is still somewhat responsible for a war that killed millions but others were involved as well. Lots of guilty people.

Jafet
09-27-2018, 10:41 PM
Defending Hitler :lol:

Try to defend Josef Fritzl, if you are so brave.

Gründig
09-27-2018, 10:44 PM
Not the kind of conversation worth having on here.

You'll primarily get people who let there emotions overrule logic and those who believe all the nonsense propaganda they are force fed daily.

Silver Lining
09-27-2018, 10:44 PM
He is responsible for this liberal madness, which is an allergic reaction to what he did.

That could be, on the other hand: Nazis were also an allergic reaction to rampant liberalism in Weimar and raging communism in the USSR.

Slavic Italian
09-27-2018, 10:46 PM
I'm not taking sides on this but for those not familiar with Wunsche. Here is something interesting. Kurt Meyer said that Hitler was present at Wunsche's wedding...................in 1948.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMGpJN8lqao

Slavic Italian
09-27-2018, 10:49 PM
I want to make it clear I do not support ideologies. I judge everything on an individual basis.

TheMaestro
09-27-2018, 10:54 PM
I was always fascinated by megalomania, I have same opinion about Hitler as I had few years ago. He was psychopat, not able to listen to his generals but at the same time, insane visionary.

Dandelion
09-27-2018, 11:01 PM
He achieved the opposite of his goals. Israel got created.

Slavic Italian
09-27-2018, 11:08 PM
He achieved the opposite of his goals. Israel got created.

He accomplished all his goals then led it all down a path of destruction.

Black Panther
09-27-2018, 11:10 PM
Everybody is mixed. That is not entirely true. That being said he is still somewhat responsible for a war that killed millions but others were involved as well. Lots of guilty people.

A mulatto is a sore thumb among Germans, especially back in those days. Please, don't misrepresent or downplay the suffering that Mulatto Germans went through at the hands of the Nazi regime.

Slavic Italian
09-27-2018, 11:13 PM
A mulatto is a sore thumb among Germans, especially back in those days. Please, don't misrepresent or downplay the suffering that Mulatto Germans went through at the hands of the Nazi regime.

All you had to do was join the Nazi party and all was good. It was really that simple. What is funny half the time when he spoke about race he was making reference to the Nordic peoples and not the Germans. So many Germans did not fit the profile that he endorsed. He finally realized it and quit speaking about it and instead focused on tearing down the enemies of the German state.

Thanas Django
09-28-2018, 06:33 AM
That I doubt.



:lol:

explain

♥ Lily ♥
09-28-2018, 06:36 AM
Nope, he killed millions of Europeans and Russians.

People condemn the racist and imperial British Empire for creating concentration camps in India and Africa, and for slavery and for the genocides of millions of Africans, Native Americans, Aboriginal Australians, Chinese people in the Opium Wars, and Indian people.... but Hitler also caused the deaths of millions of people too in Europe and Russia, (20 million Russians died in WW2.)

The Nazi Socialists were particularly cruel and inhumane towards Poles because of communism in Poland and Russia. They slaughtered a lot of Poles, which was evil and inhumane.

The people of my grandparents generation lived through a lot of suffering, rationing, constant streetlight blackouts, and thousands of bombs rained down on them during the Blitz. I wouldn't have liked to have lived in that depressing and terrifying era, or have to see and smell dead bodies everywhere and immense suffering and cries of agony and pain each day and night. American and British and Irish tourists who travelled at sea to America were blown-up and murdered by the Nazis on the Lusitania ship and on the Carpathia ship, etc.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFlIY-YVB8s

The British Empire collapsed after WW2 as we had to pay a lot of debts for many decades to the US for their help, and the US took over as the world superpower and people adopted more liberal and humane views after seeing the suffering of WW2.

It wasn't until after WW2 that immigrants were shipped into Great Britain from the Caribbean Islands to help rebuild our badly bombed nation, as we needed extra labour workers after many of our men died.

After hearing about the immense suffering of their parents generation and their parents telling them about the horrible things they saw and endured, the next generation became very liberal and into peace and love during the 1960s.

renaissance12
09-28-2018, 06:45 AM
Some ideas of Hitler were not really so bad..
Stalin and Mao were much worst than Hitler...

Regnera
09-28-2018, 06:48 AM
I never fond of Shitler and Nazism

Regnera
09-28-2018, 06:52 AM
Some ideas of Hitler were not really so bad..
Stalin and Mao were much worst than Hitler...

Why do you think so?

♥ Lily ♥
09-28-2018, 07:08 AM
I wouldn't have liked to have lived in this era of suffering, misery, and pain.

My grandparents told me that they lived in terror and fear as children when they hid underneath the stairs in their homes in their southern English seaside town which was bombed by the Nazis. My grandmother said she cried in fear as a child when she heard bombs falling and loud bangs around her.

I feel angry that the Nazis put my grandparents generation through so much suffering and misery.

Thousands of 500lb Nazi Bombs Raining Down on London During The Blitz, 1940.

The Blitz was a German bombing offensive against Britain in 1940 and 1941, during the Second World War. Blitz is the German word for 'lightning'.

The Germans conducted mass air attacks against industrial targets, towns, and cities, beginning with raids on London towards the end of the Battle of Britain in 1940, a battle for daylight air superiority between the Luftwaffe and the Royal Air Force over the United Kingdom.

By September 1940, the Luftwaffe had failed and the German air fleets (Luftflotten) were ordered to attack London, to draw RAF Fighter Command into a battle of annihilation.

Adolf Hitler and Reichsmarschall Hermann Göring, commander-in-chief of the Luftwaffe, ordered the new policy on 6 September 1940. From 7 September 1940, London was systematically bombed by the Luftwaffe for 56 out of the following 57 days and nights.

Most notable was a large daylight attack against London on 15 September.

http://static.bbc.co.uk/history/img/ic/640/images/resources/events/the_blitz.jpg

The Luftwaffe gradually decreased daylight operations in favour of night attacks to evade attack by the RAF, and the Blitz became a night bombing campaign after October 1940.

The Luftwaffe attacked the main Atlantic sea port of Liverpool in the Liverpool Blitz and the North Sea port of Hull, a convenient and easily found target or secondary target for bombers unable to locate their primary targets, suffered the Hull Blitz. Bristol, Cardiff, Portsmouth, Plymouth, Southampton and Swansea were also bombed, as were the industrial cities of Birmingham, Belfast, Coventry, Glasgow, Manchester and Sheffield.

More than 40,000 civilians were killed by Luftwaffe bombing during the war, almost half of them in the capital, where more than a million houses were destroyed or damaged.

http://www.edp24.co.uk/polopoly_fs/1.5462261.1522827480!/image/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_630/image.jpg

In early July 1940 the German High Command began planning Operation Barbarossa, the invasion of the Soviet Union.

Bombing failed to demoralise the British into surrender or do much damage to the war economy; eight months of bombing never seriously hampered British war production, which continued to increase.

The greatest effect was to force the British to disperse the production of aircraft and spare parts.

British wartime studies concluded that cities generally took 10 to 15 days to recover when hit severely but exceptions like Birmingham took three months.

https://res.cloudinary.com/dk-find-out/image/upload/q_80,w_1920,f_auto/A-rexfeatures_1507055a_a4uqp0.jpg

The German air offensive failed because the Luftwaffe High Command (Oberkommando der Luftwaffe, OKL) did not develop a methodical strategy for destroying British war industry.

Poor intelligence about British industry and economic efficiency led to OKL concentrating on tactics rather than strategy.

The bombing effort was diluted by attacks against several sets of industries instead of constant pressure on the most vital.

https://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/48972000/jpg/_48972598_blitzcommons.jpg

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Blitz

https://assets.londonist.com/uploads/2012/08/i640/ripdog.jpeg
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/52/Air_Raid_Damage_in_Britain_during_the_Second_World _War_HU36220A.jpg

https://www.history.org.uk/library/1101/0000/0286/Blitz_Square.jpg
Orphans left homeless in the east end of London after the Blitz, 1940

People lived on food rationing and blackouts of street lighting each evening during WW2. Lights were frequently blacked out by compulsory law to make it difficult for Nazi planes to detect cities and towns on the ground.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/news/2016/05/09/blitz-milkman_trans_NvBQzQNjv4Bqp89yY2HZvOT8bnVoffPh0Ybp Z8xvcmIwf8FF2Vl6e84.jpg?imwidth=450
https://www.politicalite.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/london-milkman-1940-during-the-blitz-colorization.jpg
A milkman continues with his morning duties of delivering milk to people after the Blitz, 1940

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Londoners took shelter in the deep and historic London Underground tube stations during the Blitz. People would sing songs, read books, etc, to keep up their spirit and morale. Other people across the UK took shelter underneath the stairs in their homes, or in air raid shelters underneath the ground whenever Air Raid sirens alerted people to take cover.

More than 30,000 500ib bombs fell on Britain during the Blitz, Adolf Hitler's prolonged air war of British cities which lasted from Sept 7th, 1940 to May 21st, 1941.

Over a period of 267 days, London was attacked 71 times and bombed by the Luftwaffe for 57 consecutive nights.

More than one million houses were destroyed or damaged and more than 40,000 civilians were killed.

The long dark night of 29th December, 1940;- the Germans attempted to bomb Great Britain into submission and surrendering.

The Blitz attack on London shocked the world.

The targets were civilians.

The bombing failed to demoralise the British into surrender or significantly damage the war economy.

London became an inferno which was engulfed in fires.... rather like the Great Fire of London that burned the City of London down in 1666, before being rebuilt again and developing a strong economy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFlIY-YVB8s

♥ Lily ♥
09-28-2018, 07:09 AM
R.I.P. to all the mass-murdered Europeans and Russians who died.

Hitler can rot in hell.

15 POWERFUL PHOTOS OF THE BLITZ, 1940

https://media.iwm.org.uk/loris/293/133/super_000000.jpg/full/865,/0/default.jpg
Two German bombers fly over south-east London on the first day of the Blitz, 7 September 1940.

https://www.iwm.org.uk/sites/default/files/styles/promo_desktop_1x/public/2018-08/1_19.jpg?itok=NdI6fW9k
St Paul's Cathedral seen through smoke caused by a bombing raid on London in December 1940.

https://media.iwm.org.uk/loris/38/565/super_000000.jpg/full/865,/0/default.jpg
Buildings in Manchester burn after an air raid on the night of 23 December 1940.

https://media.iwm.org.uk/loris/37/627/super_000000.jpg/full/865,/0/default.jpg
A woman sleeps on a bed made on top of a row of barrels in the cellar of a wine merchant's in East London in 1940.

https://media.iwm.org.uk/loris/14/258/super_000000.jpg/full/865,/0/default.jpg
A bus lies in a crater in Balham, south London, after a bombing raid.

https://media.iwm.org.uk/loris/34/162/super_000000.jpg/full/865,/0/default.jpg
Bomb damage in the centre of Coventry after the devastating German air raid on the night of 14 November 1940.

https://media.iwm.org.uk/loris/37/648/super_000000.jpg/full/865,/0/default.jpg
Civilians take shelter in Elephant and Castle Underground Station in south London during an air raid in November 1940.

https://media.iwm.org.uk/loris/41/687/super_000000.jpg/full/865,/0/default.jpg
One badly damaged house still stands amidst the piles of timber and rubble following an air raid on Queen's Road, Aston, Birmingham, on 11 December 1940.

https://media.iwm.org.uk/loris/40/807/super_000000.jpg/full/865,/0/default.jpg
Local boys play a game of cards in an air raid shelter in south-east London in November 1940.

https://media.iwm.org.uk/loris/39/906/super_000000.jpg/full/865,/0/default.jpg
Troops of 9th Battalion, The Hampshire Regiment, clear bomb damage in Hull sustained during the Blitz.

https://media.iwm.org.uk/loris/39/757/super_000000.jpg/full/865,/0/default.jpg
Mannequins litter the pavement outside the John Lewis department store on London’s Oxford Street after an air raid in September 1940.

https://media.iwm.org.uk/loris/40/787/super_000000.jpg/full/865,/0/default.jpg
Volunteers prepare to distribute tea to people taking shelter in North London.

https://media.iwm.org.uk/loris/38/563/super_000000.jpg/full/865,/0/default.jpg
The ruins of Coventry Cathedral two days after the air raid on the city in November 1940.

https://media.iwm.org.uk/loris/37/631/super_000000.jpg/full/865,/0/default.jpg
A man sleeping in a stone sarcophagus in an East London church in November 1940.

https://media.iwm.org.uk/loris/39/760/super_000000.jpg/full/865,/0/default.jpg
A young boy places a Union flag into the remains of his home, which was destroyed in an air raid on London in 1940.

https://www.iwm.org.uk/history/15-powerful-photos-of-the-blitz

Smeagol
09-28-2018, 07:09 AM
But Britain declared war on Hitler.

arkas
09-28-2018, 07:10 AM
No, still the same "Nazi asshole". That being said, I have heard the non-super leftist side of the story and read "Mein Kampf", MOST of his ideas are still absolutely insane. You could probably find small positive aspects of everyone on this planet, one or two ideas Hitler had on their own were good in theory but ultimately it is all irrelevant because the biggest mark he left on the world was war, destruction and horrible ideas that were disastrously executed.

Sarmatian
09-28-2018, 07:10 AM
Okay, I think this is pushing it. Perhaps he has the highest score in "bad human index" x "actual power achieved". But would he beat his homebody Stalin?

Comparing Hitler and Stalin could only indicate lack of knowledge on the subject. They are nowhere close.


Problem is, Hitler is mostly a cartoon character, so I doubt that many people truly "hate" him. He is like Emperor Palpatine. Stalin was never integrated into our pop culture.

Many people truly hate Hitler. And they have very good reasons for it.


But still, some people think Hitler was only a puppet or a "weak dictator" at best with more powerful people calling the shots.

You have some weird perception of power. One could be strong dictator and puppet at the same time.

♥ Lily ♥
09-28-2018, 07:16 AM
But Britain declared war on Hitler.

Great Britain declared war on Hitler on the 3rd of September, 1939, in response to Hitler’s invasion of Poland. Great Britain and France (both allies of the overrun nation of Poland) declared war on Germany for attacking Poland.

You can see old video footage of Lord Chamberlain wining and dining with Hitler during meetings.... but that relationship became sour after Hitler invaded Poland.


1939: Britain and France declare war on Germany

http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/39866000/jpg/_39866453_chamberlain_238.jpg
Neville Chamberlain broadcast the news to the nation at 11:15 hours

Britain and France are at war with Germany following the invasion of Poland two days ago.

At 11:15 BST the Prime Minister, Neville Chamberlain, announced the British deadline for the withdrawal of German troops from Poland had expired.

He said the British ambassador to Berlin had handed a final note to the German government this morning saying unless it announced plans to withdraw from Poland by 1100, a state of war would exist between the two countries.

Mr Chamberlain continued: "I have to tell you now that no such undertaking has been received and consequently this country is at war with Germany."

Similarly the French issued an ultimatum, which was presented in Berlin at 1230, saying France would be at war unless a 1700 deadline for the troops' withdrawal was adhered to.

King George has called upon "my people at home and my peoples across the seas".

He continued: "I ask them to stand calm, firm and united in this time of trial. The task will be hard. There may be dark days ahead and war can no longer be confined to the battlefield. But we can only do the right as we see the right and reverently commit our cause to God."

A War Cabinet of nine members has been set up with two new ministers, including Winston Churchill as First Lord of the Admiralty, the post he held at the outbreak of World War I. Lord Hankey becomes Minister without Portfolio.

Anthony Eden will take over as Dominions Secretary with special access to the War Cabinet. Mr Eden resigned from the post of Secretary of Foreign Affairs last year because he disagreed with the policy of appeasement.

The National Service (Armed Forces) Act has been passed making all men between 18 and 41 liable for conscription. The armed forces have already been mobilized for war and in July the first Territorial Army conscripts were called up.

Latest reports from Poland say the Germans have bombed a number of towns and cities, some with little or no strategic importance. About 1,500 are reported to have been killed or injured in the attacks on Friday and Saturday.

In his broadcast to the nation, Mr Chamberlain spoke of his sadness that "the long struggle to win peace" had failed.

He continued: "I cannot believe that there is anything more or anything different that I could have done and that would have been more successful."

Yesterday there was anger in the House of Commons over the Government's apparent delay in taking action against Germany.

Labour's deputy leader Arthur Greenwood had accused the Prime Minister of vacillating when "Britain and all that Britain stands for are in peril".

Today's declaration of war was received with rousing cheers. As Mr Chamberlain informed the House Britain could not take part in a five-power conference proposed by Italy while Poland was being invaded.

It has also been received with great enthusiasm in the Polish capital, Warsaw, where crowds took to the streets outside the British and French embassies cheering and singing.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/september/3/newsid_3493000/3493279.stm

The Nazis were illegal immigrants in Poland. The Poles didn't want the Nazis trespassing in their nation torturing and slaughtering millions of Polish people. They had no legal right to enter the Polish peoples nation... invade their country and brutally murder 6 million of the native Polish people. That's not civilised, decent, or humane behaviour.

Europeans know from our grandparents about the immense suffering that people in Europe went through in our countries because of Hitler.

The hell with the Nazi socialist criminal brutes, thugs, and mass-murderers.

R.I.P. to all the millions of Europeans and Russians who died fighting for our freedom, human rights, liberty, and democracy.

America is 'the land of the free' ... and the historic national motto of France is 'Liberty, Equality, Fraternity' ... and the original Statue of Liberty is in France. The French gave the U.S. a copy of the original Statue of Liberty and at the base of the U.S. Statue of Liberty there's an inscription which states, "Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free. The wretched refuse of your teeming shore." The U.S.A. was founded upon the principles of liberty, democracy, and freedom after the American rebels and French fought against the racist and imperial British Empire and tyranny during their Revolutionary Wars.

Hitler had no legal right to invade France as nobody in France democratically elected that little stocky Austrian thug to rudely barge into their nation uninvited and to start ruling over them like a megalomaniac and dictator.

Smeagol
09-28-2018, 07:23 AM
Great Britain declared war on Hitler on the 3rd of September, 1939, in response to Hitler’s invasion of Poland. Great Britain and France (both allies of the overrun nation of Poland) declared war on Germany for attacking Poland.

Hitler didn't want war with Britain. Once they declared it they shouldn't have expected not to feel war's effects though.

Thanas Django
09-28-2018, 07:25 AM
The left idolises Lenin and the right idolises Hitler.

Sarmatian
09-28-2018, 07:30 AM
The left idolises Lenin and the right idolises Hitler.

Only idiots idolizing anyone. Rational people study Marx, Lenin, Stalin, Nietzsche, Hitler, Roosevelt, Napoleon etc with equal interest.

Silver Lining
09-28-2018, 07:49 AM
The left idolises Lenin and the right idolises Hitler.

That's certainly not true. The majority of the right does not idolize Hitler, even the extreme right doesn't.

Silver Lining
09-28-2018, 07:52 AM
Comparing Hitler and Stalin could only indicate lack of knowledge on the subject. They are nowhere close.


Yeah, Stalin is really in a league of his own.



You have some weird perception of power. One could be strong dictator and puppet at the same time.

Eh, well, ok.


Great Britain declared war on Hitler on the 3rd of September, 1939, in response to Hitler’s invasion of Poland. Great Britain and France (both allies of the overrun nation of Poland) declared war on Germany for attacking Poland.

Not going to open that can of worms here, but the beginning of WW2 is a lot more complicated than that.

Thanas Django
09-28-2018, 07:57 AM
That's certainly not true. The majority of the right does not idolize Hitler, even the extreme right doesn't.

blablabla yet here we have a thread about attitudes towards Shitler.

Silver Lining
09-28-2018, 07:58 AM
blablabla yet here we have a thread about attitudes towards Shitler.

There is no connection between my statement and yours.

Thanas Django
09-28-2018, 08:03 AM
There is no connection between my statement and yours.

There is.

renaissance12
09-28-2018, 08:03 AM
Why do you think so?

Mao killed 50.000.000 chinese..

Stalin killed 25.000.000 russians

♥ Lily ♥
09-28-2018, 08:14 AM
Hitler didn't want war with Britain. Once they declared it they shouldn't have expected not to feel war's effects though.

Hitler was forewarned by Lord Chamberlain to withdraw from Poland and leave the Poles in peace. He was given a deadline to withdraw his troops from Poland. If he didn't want a war with Great Britain and France (both allies of Poland) then he should've stopped terrorising, bullying, and murdering millions of Polish people.

Smeagol
09-28-2018, 08:19 AM
Hitler was forewarned by Lord Chamberlain to withdraw from Poland and leave the Poles in peace. He was given a deadline to withdraw his troops from Poland. If he didn't want a war with Great Britain and France (both allies of Poland) then he should've stopped terrorising, bullying, and murdering millions of Polish people.

That was none of Britain's business, and he didn't murder or persecute Poles, although they were persecuting ethnic German minorities.

♥ Lily ♥
09-28-2018, 08:21 AM
Capitalists and elitism is right-wing. Socialism is left-wing. There's different branches of capitalism and socialism though.


National Socialism (German: Nationalsozialismus), more commonly known as Nazism. In Mein Kampf, Hitler directly attacked both left-wing and right-wing politics in Germany.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazism

Silver Lining
09-28-2018, 08:22 AM
That was none of Britain's business, and he didn't murder or persecute Poles, although they were persecuting ethnic German minorities.

You have started the countdown... He IS coming.

♥ Lily ♥
09-28-2018, 08:25 AM
That was none of Britain's business, and he didn't murder or persecute Poles, although they were persecuting ethnic German minorities.

Of course it was Great Britain's business because we're an ally of Poland. They were attacking our allies. We have a moral obligation and loyal duty to help and defend our allies, rather than turning our back on them like cowards and leaving them to die without giving any help.

That's like turning your back on a friend if they were being kicked in the face and attacked.

The Nazis slaughtered millions of Poles in Nazi concentration camps in Poland. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties_of_Poland

You make it sound like Hitler was a peaceful, all-loving, non hateful, non murdering, humane and kind saint. :rolleyes:

"First they came ..." is a famous poem written by the German Lutheran pastor Martin Niemöller (1892–1984). It deals with themes of bullying, persecution, guilt and responsibility. There's various versions of the poem.

'First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out —
Because I was not a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out —
Because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out —
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me — and there was no one left to speak for me.'

Nazi crimes against the Polish nation: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_crimes_against_the_Polish_nation

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/51/Poem_by_Martin_Niemoeller_at_the_the_Holocaust_mem orial_in_Boston_MA.jpg

Photos of dead bodies (mostly skeletons) from Nazi concentration camps.
https://img-4.linternaute.com/7n0bM8P4TOrtmAFegrr8vDDKkns=/1240x/smart/292843ca1d0b4794b3b3c70e1979b88b/ccmcms-linternaute/10009205.jpg
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/70/Mass_Grave_3_at_Bergen-Belsen_concentration_camp.jpg/275px-Mass_Grave_3_at_Bergen-Belsen_concentration_camp.jpg
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/supermarioglitchy4/images/6/6b/10381366474210193850.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20160524234435
https://furtherglory.files.wordpress.com/2014/05/oldphotomajdanekshoes.jpg?w=432&h=293
https://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/134156de0ca503cf2bc6b5fc8158177c
https://mwgenocide.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/an-improvised-crematory-pyre.jpg

Strange that Nutzis can idolise and worship Hitler as a 'white hero'... when he killed and murdered millions of white people.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PwPAGwUqNg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOIHRQlQqwU

The Nazi POW's were treated more humanely after they were captured, compared to how the Nazis treated poor Polish people.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxQTWVctk6g

Some of these prisoners were top Nazi officials... and others were responsible for the Nazi U-boat torpedoing of the British and Canadian passenger liner ships where thousands of British, Canadian, and American travellers and civilians were killed onboard those ships, such as the RMS Lusitania, the RMS Carpathia (a British passenger liner that had previously rescued drowning people from the RMS Titanic ... before later being torpedoed by the Nazis,) and the Canadian passenger liner 'RMS Empress of Britain,' which was also sunk by a German U-boat.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SLrVk7-PmE

Cansel
09-28-2018, 08:33 AM
If he were known for art (he had a big potential to be an artist), probably he would be still famous but beloved one.

Silver Lining
09-28-2018, 08:35 AM
If he were known for art (he had a big potential to be an artist), probably he would be still famous but beloved one.

I cannot judge art but back in the day I heard that Hitler was a very average artist, but then at some point more and more people claimed he was actually talented. So the opinion on Hitler has improved in that regard.

Anglojew
09-28-2018, 08:54 AM
Yes, before I thought he was a megalomaniac totalitarian but now I know he was a pawn of the Ba'alists

Creoda
09-28-2018, 09:07 AM
I greatly admire his domestic policy and national revival, don't agree with the invasions of Poland and Czechoslovakia or carving up Eastern Europe with the Soviets, but don't really care either. I mostly regret Britain declaring war on Germany or getting involved at all.

My opinion of Hitler hasn't changed much in the last few years, it improved when I read his writings and speeches at University, the opposite effect of what was intended I'm sure.

Smeagol
09-28-2018, 09:12 AM
Of course it was Great Britain's business because we're an ally of Poland. They were attacking our allies. We have a moral obligation and loyal duty to help and defend our allies, rather than turning our back on them like cowards and leaving them to die without giving any help.

You said you'd help the Czechs too, but you didn't. It's all politics, The British didn't actually care about Poles, they just wanted to preserve the balance of power.

Silver Lining
09-28-2018, 09:15 AM
You said you'd help the Czechs too, but you didn't. It's all politics, The British didn't actually care about Poles, they just wanted to preserve the balance of power.

the perfidious Albion

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perfidious_Albion

Thanas Django
09-28-2018, 09:18 AM
You said you'd help the Czechs too, but you didn't. It's all politics, The British didn't actually care about Poles, they just wanted to preserve the balance of power.

The British partly cared about the Poles and partly wanted to preserve the balance of power.

This world is not black and white.

Sarmatian
09-28-2018, 09:23 AM
Stalin killed 25.000.000 russians

Why so modest? Why not 150.000.000?

Creoda
09-28-2018, 09:40 AM
the perfidious Albion

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perfidious_Albion
Perfidy would have been promising to protect Poland and then doing nothing when Germany invaded.

Black Panther
09-28-2018, 11:15 AM
The left idolises Lenin and the right idolises Hitler.

Nope. I am right wing, but I am more interested in people like Adam Smith, Milton Friedman, Ayn Rand, etc.

Mortimer
09-28-2018, 11:19 AM
Nothing changed still a nazi asshole

Thanas Django
09-28-2018, 11:30 AM
Nope. I am right wing, but I am more interested in people like Adam Smith, Milton Friedman, Ayn Rand, etc.

I made a generalised statement, but everyone please feel free to take it to the individual level.

Jana
09-28-2018, 11:32 AM
Yes, it became worse.

Jana
09-28-2018, 11:35 AM
Nope. I am right wing, but I am more interested in people like Adam Smith, Milton Friedman, Ayn Rand, etc.

This man is horrible. Chicago school is one of reasons why the west became such....degenerated place as it is today.

Black Panther
09-28-2018, 11:40 AM
This man is horrible. Chicago school is one of reasons why the west became such....degenerated place as it is today.

I take what is good from them, and disregard the rest. I value cultural conservatism, individual freedom with little but effective state intervention.

Kaspias
09-28-2018, 11:43 AM
It's more negative than a few years ago.

Benyzero
09-28-2018, 11:47 AM
Same as before, He was a talented, charismatic man, with some personality defects. He should have sit on his ass and not attack poland, but we will never know that scenario. He wasn't that evil as they portray him, but he became a person with all the traits of a dictator and that's never good.

Teutone
09-28-2018, 12:11 PM
I understand his need of crushing soviet scum, just Lebensraum Ost was stupid, cause the east is cold and looks like shit.

Mr. Anybody
09-28-2018, 01:01 PM
He is just a failed leader,not more.Also he dont look like an avarage German.I can easily say that without adequate knowledge of anthropology.it clearly visible.I think he resembles Celtic folks more than anything.I may be wrong..then, can anyone explain it in absolute reality?

Jana
09-28-2018, 01:02 PM
He is just a failed leader,not more.Also he dont look like an avarage German.I can easily say that without adequate knowledge of anthropology.it clearly visible.I think he resembles Celtic folks more than anything.I may be wrong, theb one can explain it in absolute reality.

Wrong, he looked like German from his area more than anything. You're clueless.

Mr. Anybody
09-28-2018, 01:13 PM
Wrong, he looked like German from his area more than anything. You're clueless.

That was really an excellent explanation.I have never seen such an analytical explanation before.I'm guessing you're studying at MIT or Harvard, is that true?

Jana
09-28-2018, 01:17 PM
That was really an excellent explanation.I have never seen such an analytical explanation before.I'm guessing you're studying at MIT or Harvard, is that true?

You obviously have no idea how upper Austrians look.

Mr. Anybody
09-28-2018, 01:28 PM
You obviously have no idea how upper Austrians look.


He is just a failed leader,not more.Also he dont look like an avarage German.I can easily say that without adequate knowledge of anthropology.it clearly visible.I think he resembles Celtic folks more than anything.I may be wrong,then one can explain it in absolute reality.

Mr. Anybody
09-28-2018, 01:35 PM
i think i should ask this question either to CommonSense or Berkan or Teuton.

Not a Cop
09-28-2018, 01:56 PM
I've came to a more complex understanding of his persona.

Teutone
09-28-2018, 05:15 PM
i think i should ask this question either to CommonSense or Berkan or Teuton.

Jana is right, he looks like a regular dark haired but blue eyed German

Jafet
09-28-2018, 05:26 PM
He is just a failed leader,not more.Also he dont look like an avarage German.I can easily say that without adequate knowledge of anthropology.it clearly visible.I think he resembles Celtic folks more than anything.I may be wrong,then one can explain it in absolute reality.


You obviously have no idea how upper Austrians look.


I have no clue of the genetics or the current racial makeup of the place, but it is known that the territory of Austria was mostly and firstly settled by Celts.

Maybe Hitler is not the best example of what an average Celt looked like.

Jana
09-28-2018, 05:27 PM
I have no clue of the genetics or the current racial makeup of the place, but it is known that the territory of Austria was mostly and firstly settled by Celts.

Maybe Hitler is not the best example of what an average Celt looked like.

I never said he looks Germanic, I said he looked typical German for his area. Germanic =/= German

:)

Jafet
09-28-2018, 05:55 PM
I never said he looks Germanic, I said he looked typical German for his area. Germanic =/= German

:)


You meant he was Bavarian-like ?

Mr. Anybody
09-28-2018, 09:25 PM
Jana is right, he looks like a regular dark haired but blue eyed German

Thank for answer,greetings

♥ Lily ♥
09-28-2018, 10:20 PM
He is just a failed leader,not more.Also he dont look like an avarage German.I can easily say that without adequate knowledge of anthropology.it clearly visible.I think he resembles Celtic folks more than anything.I may be wrong,then one can explain it in absolute reality.

:confused:

Mr. Anybody
09-28-2018, 10:44 PM
:confused:
very dark hair,blue eyes,pale skin.it reminds me of a celt rather than a german.
so;

He is just a failed leader,not more.Also he dont look like an avarage German.I can easily say that without adequate knowledge of anthropology.it clearly visible.I think he resembles Celtic folks more than anything.I may be wrong..,then,can anyone explain it in absolute reality?.
I like to learn new things. lady.I,m waiting.

Joso
09-28-2018, 10:49 PM
Wrong, he looked like German from his area more than anything. You're clueless.

yes, Hitler looked very Austrian German but Triceps does have a point, many of Celts were alpinid i think and Hitler was mainly alpine with some keltic nordid maybe

New user
09-28-2018, 10:54 PM
Hitler looked extremely Austrian/German. Nothing Celtic/British in particular about em at all.

♥ Lily ♥
09-28-2018, 11:03 PM
very dark hair,blue eyes,pale skin.it reminds me of a celt rather than a german.
so;

I like to learn new things. lady.I,m waiting.


His features don't look Celtic... he looks very Alpine and Austrian.

Mr. Anybody
09-28-2018, 11:24 PM
His features don't look Celtic... he looks very Alpine and Austrian.

Is there no contradiction in this sentence?I have done a lot of research on this subject because I was classified as alpine race.although I do not understand anthropology, I am aware of the contrast in this sentence.

Phenix
09-28-2018, 11:41 PM
Where is the option: No, I always looked at him of good eye.

Regnera
09-29-2018, 12:57 AM
Somebody said Hitler looks like a Northeast Italian

Petros Houhoulis
09-29-2018, 05:50 AM
Defending Hitler :lol:

Try to defend Josef Fritzl, if you are so brave.

https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/003/132/1244131056951.jpg

Heaven
02-06-2020, 06:52 PM
He was an interesting guy. He mortally wounded Russia, he overrun and destroyed Greece yet he didn't touch Turks. Moreover, he had all chances to do it since it was Turkey's weakest era in history.

He might well have been of Lost Khazar stock. Beside, not being blonde like usual Germans, that makes wonder.

Ymyyakhtakh
02-06-2020, 07:01 PM
Yeah because I learned that he and other Nazis were gay thanks to Scott Lively:

https://www.bitchute.com/video/MasBkFYoN1lG/
https://electrodes.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/the_pink_swastika_lively__abrams_1995_4th_edition. pdf
https://www.scottlively.net/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/The-Poisoned-Stream.pdf

Also I learned that he and other Nazis were crypto-Zionists thanks to Christopher Jon Bjerknes:

https://www.bitchute.com/video/Pfzm3P0YnQge/
https://www.bitchute.com/video/lGSDelmh4j8Q/
http://jewishracism.blogspot.com/2019/03/in-print-adolf-hitler-bolshevik-and.html