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Polish phenotypes
09-28-2018, 07:11 AM
Hi,

I have received a message from Apricity that I am missed, therefore I have decided to make a thread about the taxonomy of people who have been on my mind recently.

I am still new to genomics, ancestry, biotech, migration of peoples, phenotypes etc therefore please be considerate.

The first person is the rapper MGK who has made the recent diss on Eminem:

https://78.media.tumblr.com/fce04a136d86b96d5c17c10d0f675261/tumblr_p10wa19GyT1ru8qzko1_500.jpg

The second person is Eminem:

https://www.grammy.com/sites/com/files/eminem-spotlight-109070048.png

The third person is Ben Shapiro:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/74/Ben_Shapiro_june_26_2016_cropped_retouched.jpg/220px-Ben_Shapiro_june_26_2016_cropped_retouched.jpg

The fourth person is Paul von Hindenburg:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1b/Bundesarchiv_Bild_183-C06886%2C_Paul_v._Hindenburg.jpg/220px-Bundesarchiv_Bild_183-C06886%2C_Paul_v._Hindenburg.jpg

The fifth person is Alexander Lukashenko:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1c/SBY_dan_Alexander_Lukashenko_19-03-2013_%28cropped%29.jpg/220px-SBY_dan_Alexander_Lukashenko_19-03-2013_%28cropped%29.jpg

The sixth person is a priest from "Calendaro Romano" I have accidentally found on the internet:

https://e03-elmundo.uecdn.es/assets/multimedia/imagenes/2013/12/10/13867048737803.jpg

Can you please explain what admixture is each exhibit composed of? I.e. what different admixtures you would need to attain each of the results.

In case you are wondering "why are these people grouped together, what even is this" - this is totally random, I am interested in these people for different reasons and I do not assume they share any phenotypes at all :D

Columella
09-28-2018, 07:34 AM
Hindenburg was described as a
Phalian by Eickstedt and as an East Baltic by Coon.
I would put Lukashenko instead una Baltic and maybe Noric range.

CommonSense
09-28-2018, 03:25 PM
MGK: Nordid
Eminem: Atlantid + Baltid influence
Ben Shapiro: Atlantid + Alpine
Paul von Hindenburg: Baltid
Lukashenko: Baltid + Dinarid
Priest: Hard to tell, I think he's North-Atlantid

Polish phenotypes
10-04-2018, 11:24 AM
MGK: Nordid
Eminem: Atlantid + Baltid influence
Ben Shapiro: Atlantid + Alpine
Paul von Hindenburg: Baltid
Lukashenko: Baltid + Dinarid
Priest: Hard to tell, I think he's North-Atlantid

It seems that the Atlantid population is really widespread, is this synonymous with the Celtic migration? (I have no idea).
Is there an Alpine-Atlantid or Alpine-Baltid link?
Thank you for the answer by the way.

CommonSense
10-04-2018, 01:13 PM
It seems that the Atlantid population is really widespread, is this synonymous with the Celtic migration? (I have no idea).
Is there an Alpine-Atlantid or Alpine-Baltid link?
Thank you for the answer by the way.

There's no link between Atlantids and Alpines/Baltids. Atlantids are a mix of Nordids and Mediterranids, whereas Alpines and Baltids are reduced forms of the Upper Paleolithic Cro-Magnon population.

Polish phenotypes
10-04-2018, 01:18 PM
There's no link between Atlantids and Alpines/Baltids. Atlantids are a mix of Nordids and Mediterranids, whereas Alpines and Baltids are reduced forms of the Upper Paleolithic Cro-Magnon population.

Wow, very interesting, when did this happen? I've made a different thread about understanding of the migration of peoples timeline, if you have time would you be able to comment when upper paleolithic CM fits into the migration of indoeuropeans?

Phenix
10-04-2018, 05:54 PM
MGK: Nordid
Eminem: Atlantid + Baltid influence
Ben Shapiro: Atlantid + Alpine
Paul von Hindenburg: Baltid
Lukashenko: Baltid + Dinarid
Priest: Hard to tell, I think he's North-Atlantid

Seems correct.
I may add that MGK is textbook Hallstatt, and the priest looks somewhat Paleo-Atlantid + Nordid