Classify Ingmar Bergman

[Rouxinol]

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44028000/jpg/_44028120_colour_416.jpg http://ante-et-post.weblog.com.pt/ingmar-bergman.jpg http://www.dailygossip.org/media/posts/178-460x276.jpg

[Rouxinol]

He's Swedish... But kinda out of place, or not? His nose's kinda Armenoid.

[Hess]

From what I have seen, his type would definitely be quite rare in Sweden. Nonexistent? No. Rare? Yes.

The nose I would is dinaric. Borderline Armenid but still dinaric

[Pallantides]

Langskalle!
http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-images/Arts/Arts_/Pictures/2007/07/30/bergmanfamily460.jpghttp://www.uniondocs.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/bergman_main.jpg


I don't really find I'm that unusal, besides there are swarthier Scandinavians around...

[Osweo]

Just a dark nordid, who exists in order to foil the stupidly simplistic notions of those who let hair colour get in the way of looking at the fundamental structure of the skull... ;)

Or does he really have a flattened occiput?! Pix nau!

[Rouxinol]

Precisely, by looking at the fundamental structure of the skull he looks rather Armenoid than (dark) Nordid. I remember reading a post by Pallantides on another thread claiming a smiliar eye shape of Ingmar's to be Armenoid. In Ingmar's case, his nose is rather Armenoid too as well as the prominent malars.

[Pallantides]

That Peruvian guy?
His eyes were much droopier.

[Rouxinol]

That Peruvian guy?
His eyes were much droopier.

Yes, that one.

[Pallantides]

So where would this Armenoid influence come from?
He is not of Jewish ancestry, also surnames with 'berg'(cliff) in them are very common in Sweden.

[Hess]

I still think his nose is too small to be armenoid. Just look at coons Armenoid. His nose is twice as big as that guy's. If anything, his nose is rather dinarid

[Rouxinol]

So where would this Armenoid influence come from?
He is not of Jewish ancestry, also surnames with 'berg'(cliff) in them are very common in Sweden.

Well, I don't know... But Nordid? No.

http://www.independent.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00232/pg-14-bergman-main-_232693a.jpg

[Pallantides]

Bergman admits Nazi past (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/441057.stm)

[Osweo]

Reminds me of Basil Rathbone a bit (who is English to my knowledge);
http://www.glowingdial.com/images/Basil_Rathbone.jpg
http://www.things-and-other-stuff.com/images/MASTOSprofiles/rathbone/1936-watkins-4x5.jpg
http://image2.findagrave.com/photos250/photos/2004/321/855_110074824428.jpg
http://djman.wordthunder.com/fox_hound_files/fox_ho1.jpg
http://www.basilrathbone.net/gallery/sherlockholmes/sh12.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_RpqXqo6GM7s/TFOWMPm_TSI/AAAAAAAABPk/T4XWHpf7oj8/s1600/Basil+Rathbone.png
Tons of pics; http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=basil+rathbone&hl=en&safe=off&rlz=1C1DSGL_enGB416GB416&prmd=ivnso&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=m8moTaieFYyZhQfDhaTbCQ&ved=0CEAQsAQ&biw=1366&bih=600

... a similar kind of KeltoNordoid blend??? :shrug:

Rathbone has a more sloping forehead, though.

[Franz]

For Bergman, Nordid with Taurid

[aherne]

Reminds me of Basil Rathbone a bit (who is English to my knowledge);
They do not resemble at all... He just looks generic European and there is no racial reason to suspect he is not fully Swedish.

[Fincher]

Bump.

[Fincher]

Bump.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-3nCJY8DX1iA/Td4MAF3lFgI/AAAAAAAAAT0/C2RTN1jb5Vg/s1600/1Ingmar%2BBergman%2B%25E2%2580%2593%2BFace%2Bto%2B Face.jpg
http://media.tumblr.com/963425fc4bba6beb0bc4e447766b7521/tumblr_inline_mjoq2s842v1qz4rgp.jpg
http://www.screenmancer.tv/Ingmar.jpg
http://c420561.r61.cf1.rackcdn.com/4/2886-470203.jpg

[WOOHP]

Quite atypical. Would fit better in central Europe.

Dinaroid of some sort with CM

[Dasr]

"Ingmar Bergman was born in Uppsala, Sweden, the son of Erik Bergman, a Lutheran minister and later chaplain to the King of Sweden, and Karin (Åkerblom), a nurse who had Walloon[2] ancestors"

[Caismeachd]

He's not armenoid or Jewish. I made the same mistake long ago. His phenotype is unusual though. He's long headed as a nordid but has unusual features. I can't place him. His looks are fairly enigmatic.

[Not a Cop]

Nordo-Dinaric

[Roy]

Dinarid + Nordid.

[Caismeachd]

He's got some very enigmatic phenotype. It's some unusual mix of hallstatt and atlantid first and foremost. It's just some enigmatic blend of extremes.

[Caismeachd]

I don't think he is dinarid. Just on metrics he would probably come out as halstatt nordid.

[oh-nahhh]

His parents:
http://ingmarbergman.se/en/sites/default/files/imagecache/wysiwyg_420/erik_och_karin_sent_10_tal_glad_karin_0.jpg
http://ingmarbergman.se/en/sites/default/files/imagecache/wysiwyg_420/erik_och_karin_sent_10-tal_ledsen_karin_0.jpg
http://old.bfi.org.uk/sightandsound/images/newsandviews/420/karin's-face_420.jpg

Father looks Nordic, his mother could be Alpine with some Atlantid.

[Caismeachd]

His dad is halstatt and alpine/baltid and his mom is alpine atlantid. He turned out basically halstatt and atlantid with the most extreme features of his parents minus any alpine.

[Smeagol]

Dinarized Nordid with Cromagnid influence.

[averagedude]

Weird Swedish.

[Vladimir Putin]

Love his movies

[Vladimir Putin]

Weird Swedish.

lol wut.. He is possibly one of greatest Swedish ever

[blizzard]

North Atlantid + Dinarid

Dinarid is not visible in his parents, but i guess it could happen even if both are biological parents...

Resembles Kevin Costner on this photo
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-3nCJY8DX1iA/Td4MAF3lFgI/AAAAAAAAAT0/C2RTN1jb5Vg/s1600/1Ingmar%2BBergman%2B%25E2%2580%2593%2BFace%2Bto%2B Face.jpg

[Styrian Mujo]

Atlantid+Dinarid. Looks French/Central European.

[Deneb]

Gods are unclassifiable.

[Lawalye]

He's part walloon, that maybe explain that.

There's a theory in sweden: when you have dark hair, you probably have walloon origins.

[The Blade]

Tronder:
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44028000/jpg/_44028120_colour_416.jpg
Lol at Dinarid.

[Joso]

Corded nordid+atlanto-med.

[Rouxinol]

Tronder:
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44028000/jpg/_44028120_colour_416.jpg
Lol at Dinarid.

Except for the nose? He looks like a robust but dark Hallstatt (call it Tronder) with a weird nose shape.

[Joso]

Tronder:
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44028000/jpg/_44028120_colour_416.jpg
Lol at Dinarid.

He seens to have an extremely long vault, do you think he is hypsicranic?

[Rouxinol]

He's part walloon, that maybe explain that.

There's a theory in sweden: when you have dark hair, you probably have walloon origins.

Now that you say so... He kinda looks like a robust and longer-faced Thibaut Courtois.
I classify him as a more robust than average "dark" Keltic Nordid. Unusual for Sweden but common in some areas of Belgium, Northern France (see De Gaulle)...

[The Blade]

Except for the nose? He looks like a robust but dark Hallstatt (call it Tronder) with a weird nose shape.
Corded type sometimes has these features.
Metrically he looks quite Corded-CM (and therefore Tronder) but not Dinaric.

[The Blade]

He seens to have an extremely long vault, do you think he is hypsicranic?
Googled him. Orthocranic or mildly hypsi, in my opinion.

[Aiwado]

Keltic-Nordid.

[Irishchessmaster]

dark nordic

[Papastratosels26]

Tronder

[Pansarkamrat]

Wrong post

[RenaRyuguu]

Legend

[RenaRyuguu]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWjxnqu9K8g

[RenaRyuguu]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifSSOUS0Vo4

[dududud]

Could pass as Native in many town of Northern France.

Looks like my father, but not identical (my father look more French).

[NSXD60]

Bog-oid

[Vanu]

Hallstat

[RenaRyuguu]

Genius

[kevinmac]

I think this is a rare case of Keltic Nordoid+Dinarid. As both look a little similar, here we can see both elements. Southern and Norther/Central.

[Nurzat]

Ibrahimovitschoid. they are fellow countrymen as well, so that must be it

[Finnish Swede]

Lately he met and even worked together with her (Ingrid Bergman). Despite of similar names these two big names of Swedish film industry were not related.

https://img.ilcdn.fi/CS1FxuFMVzpYIyHHC0lCNEsaiA8=/full-fit-in/612x0/img-s3.ilcdn.fi/75cad279ae64d49c5d96d039d64ac7ec4a6a449df450bd34b0 88ff9f8ed3e9f7.jpg

[renaissance12]

He was above all as film director

[Finnish Swede]

I think he got 6 Oscars if remember correctly? (+ other awards). He also refuses to be nominated for Oscars for one film ''Wild Strawberries''. I think he was one of those filmakers who clearly wasn't making movies for anyone else's approval? He also had some harsh words for them time to time ... like ''whole award show was shit'' :)

Today some of us might agree with him.

[Harkonnen]

He was above all as film director

Really? I guess question of tastes but not really for my tastebuds that much, even Mikko Niskanen was much more hardcore

[Nurzat]

He was above all as film director

I watch very little stuff except porn, I don't have the patience for films. I can't watch Tarkovski, so boring