I am officially NOT Ashkenazi Jewish !

[Richmondbread]

Ha! I knew it couldn't be possible.

Read this:
our genetic ancestry calculator results
Eurogenes Jtest K14This test is for people of Ashkenazi Jewish descent. If you are European then a result of up to 4% does not signify Ashkenazi Jewish ancestry, as it is an average result for Europeans on this calculator. This test is not for Sephardi or Mizrahi Jewish populations.

Calculator model by Davidski

MY RESULTS:

Population Percentage
South Baltic 16.82%
East Euro 13.33%
North-Central Euro 24.78%
Atlantic 19.34%
West Med 11.85%
Ashkenazim 3.54%
East Med 0.00%
West Asian 7.47%
Middle Eastern 2.10%
South Asian 0.00%
East African 0.77%
East Asian 0.00%
Siberian 0.00%
West African 0.00%

[rein]

I have yet to see an Ashkenazi score at least 50% on that calculator.

[Gründig]

You have issues.

Also, the creator himself said the Jtest is very outdated.

[Teutonski]

I thought you think jews are gods chosen people and Israel the most important country.

You pretty much try not to be a jew.

[nittionia]

Then my dad and I are jewish lool

[Kaspias]

very official

[Congolese Rice]

Ashkenazim 3.54%
East Med 0.00%
West Asian 7.47%
Middle Eastern 2.10%


^^ XDD you score even more west asian and middle eastern than i do on this calculator, and i am infact 10-15% north african. you have a total of 13.11% middle eastern XDDDD oh boy you are only making this worse for yourself.


jews usually score ashkenazi + east med + west asian + middle eastern

guess what you score xD

[Cristiano viejo]

Now you can be happy after all.

[Congolese Rice]

my results:


Population
SOUTH_BALTIC 10.30
EAST_EURO 9.18
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 19.03
ATLANTIC 19.12
WEST_MED 4.95
ASHKENAZI 2.83
EAST_MED 2.52
WEST_ASIAN 1.73
MIDDLE_EASTERN 1.92
SOUTH_ASIAN 1.52
EAST_AFRICAN 4.80
EAST_ASIAN 0.41
SIBERIAN 0.92
WEST_AFRICAN 20.79


^ all part of my african ancestry, total 41.06%. as you can see i only score 1.73% west asian where in turn you score 7%> xD definitely more than 5% jewish tbh

[Kaspias]

Ashkenazim 3.54%
East Med 0.00%
West Asian 7.47%
Middle Eastern 2.10%


^^ XDD you score even more west asian and middle eastern than i do on this calculator, and i am infact 10-15% north african. you have a total of 13.11% middle eastern XDDDD oh boy you are only making this worse for yourself.


jews usually score ashkenazi + east med + west asian + middle eastern

guess what you score xD

hi im jew now

EAST_MED 17.49
WEST_ASIAN 10.81
MIDDLE_EASTERN 5.81
ASHKENAZI 5.41

[Congolese Rice]

hi im jew now

EAST_MED 17.49
WEST_ASIAN 10.81
MIDDLE_EASTERN 5.81
ASHKENAZI 5.41

hello jew i am bob, and i am 100% scandinavian

NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 99.99
SOUTH_BALTIC 0.01

[Kaspias]

hello jew i am bob, and i am 100% scandinavian

NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 99.99
SOUTH_BALTIC 0.01

oooh gay genes

[Congolese Rice]

oooh gay genes

oooh stop it hehehehehe :P


xD

[Kaspias]

oooh stop it hehehehehe :P


xD

HAHAHAHAHHAHA LOL

[Richmondbread]

Ashkenazim 3.54%
East Med 0.00%
West Asian 7.47%
Middle Eastern 2.10%


^^ XDD you score even more west asian and middle eastern than i do on this calculator, and i am infact 10-15% north african. you have a total of 13.11% middle eastern XDDDD oh boy you are only making this worse for yourself.


jews usually score ashkenazi + east med + west asian + middle eastern

guess what you score xD

The Mid Eastern is probably my Cherokee blood.

[Congolese Rice]

The Mid Eastern is probably my Cherokee blood.

nigga are you for FUCKING real xDDDD

cherokees and middle easterners have NOTHING to do with eachother. lmao, you are seriously having a "Yemeni phase" im not even kidding, you are OWD or whatever the fuck xD you dont have amerindian son, you are jewish/middle eastern admixed, deal with it.


for me it was also sucky to find out that i wasnt arab but you gotta deal with it fool xD

[rein]

oooh gay genes

He has changed.

[Kaspias]

The Mid Eastern is probably my Cherokee blood.

1. Cherokee and mid-east really irrelevant.
2. You don't have cherokee blood.

East Asian 0.00%
Siberian 0.00%

[Cernunnos]

Lol, you are 1/16 Jewish or something like that! :lol:

[Congolese Rice]

1. Cherokee and mid-east really irrelevant.
2. You don't have cherokee blood.

East Asian 0.00%
Siberian 0.00%

^ exactly my nigga, exactly. this guy is jewish admixed, he doesnt wanna admit it with his delusional christian dumbass head xD

he scores like 3x more west asian than i do on this test, thats definitely a indicator of jewishness imo, especially since he also scores more middle eastern than me, and more ashkenazi, that goes together very well.

you are 13% jewish richmond, enjoy it xD

[Gründig]

The Mid Eastern is probably my Cherokee blood.

How many times are you gonna say this nonsense?

[TheMaestro]

Richmmond our chubby jew.

[1R0N M4N XL]

I thought you was a native American indian?

[Kaspias]

^ exactly my nigga, exactly. this guy is jewish admixed, he doesnt wanna admit it with his delusional christian dumbass head xD

he scores like 3x more west asian than i do on this test, thats definitely a indicator of jewishness imo, especially since he also scores more middle eastern than me, and more ashkenazi, that goes together very well.

you are 13% jewish richmond, enjoy it xD

It could came from his Italian ancestry as well. You know some Italians score high middle-east, some of them as much as Western Turks.

[Richmondbread]

I thought you was a native American indian?
I am, far back.

[Token]

The Mid Eastern is probably my Cherokee blood.

Are you serious?

[Richmondbread]

It's like Y'all want me to be a Jew. The test clearly states that it's stat noise. I don't see what more evidence I need??? Oh, and yes, I do have Amerindian ancestry. But I know it won't show up as likely, since it's very distant. That I can prove.

[TheMaestro]

It's like Y'all want me to be a Jew. The test clearly states that it's stat noise. I don't see what more evidence I need??? Oh, and yes, I do have Amerindian ancestry. But I know it won't show up as likely, since it's very distant. That I can prove.

You can join now all Jewish permission groups.

[1R0N M4N XL]

I am, far back.

okaayyy.

[Richmondbread]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBHIvPb5C9E&feature=youtu.be

[Kaspias]

Genetic tests track my hun ancestry, from hundreds years ago

Please tell me how your amerindian ancestry can't be tracked?


I don't think you have jewish ancestry btw, i think it's from south-european ancestor.

[Phenix]

I consider all WASP as wannabe Jews, but you seem to be happy not having Jewish origins, why that?
Seriously mate, you are not Semitische, nor your family members are.

[Kelmendasi]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBHIvPb5C9E&feature=youtu.be
xD

[Richmondbread]

Genetic tests track my hun ancestry, from hundreds years ago

Please tell me how your amerindian ancestry can't be tracked?


I don't think you have jewish ancestry btw, i think it's from south-european ancestor.

I get just under 2% Amerindian.

[Gründig]

xD
I really have no words for this guy.

[Kelmendasi]

I really have no words for this guy.
He's a mad man xD, my guy rebukes storms and shit

[Congolese Rice]

It's like Y'all want me to be a Jew. The test clearly states that it's stat noise. I don't see what more evidence I need??? Oh, and yes, I do have Amerindian ancestry. But I know it won't show up as likely, since it's very distant. That I can prove.

if it doesnt show up then it means it doesnt exist in your GENOME. you have a amerindian far far far back ancestor, you dont have actual amerindian ancestry. you didnt inherit any amerindian, but you are part jewish/middle eastern xD

we dont want you to be a jew its just facts that point to you being part middle eastern/jewish. And yes, it WOULD be stat noise, but you arent a full european xD you are infact only 85-87% european. and thus your jewish ancestry is 100% legitimate.

[Congolese Rice]

I really have no words for this guy.

and just when Grundig thought yemeni was the most retarded person he had ever met, his mind quickly changed.


https://i.ytimg.com/vi/G-HTunBiA9U/hqdefault.jpg

[Richmondbread]

I am not a Jew, and that's final.

[Gründig]

I am not a Jew, and that's final.

Post your 4 way oracle from the Jtest on gedmatch

[Kelmendasi]

You are deluded when it comes to genetics and human origins. You claimed that the Amerindians are close to Jews and that they were of the same race, this is completely incorrect. As I have explained multiple times, Amerindians are a rather genetically distinct peoples that are only really close to Siberians and east Asians. Nothing to do with Jews. If anything Jews are closer to Europeans than they are to Amerindians.

[happycow]

lol

[rein]

Post your 4 way oracle from the Jtest on gedmatch

Oracles are not necessarily representative of Jewish ancestry. 23andme test is best for that.

Btw, do you know what these abbreviations mean?
Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +
1 Erzya + GR + HU + IQ @ 3.281130
2 Erzya + HU + IQ + South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 3.281311
3 GR + HU + IQ + North_Russian @ 3.421117
4 Erzya + IQ + Serbian + South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 3.503981
5 IQ + North_Russian + Serbian + South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 3.538666
6 HU + IQ + North_Russian + South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 3.545541
7 IQ + North_Russian + RO + South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 3.613819
8 North_Russian + PL + Samaritan + TR @ 3.645420
9 East_Russian + PL + Samaritan + TR @ 3.673459
10 East_Russian + GR + HU + IQ @ 3.717732
11 GR + IQ + North_Russian + Serbian @ 3.722219
12 Mandean + Samaritan + South_Finnish + West_Russian @ 3.741313
13 Erzya + IQ + RO + South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 3.758336
14 Erzya + GR + IQ + Serbian @ 3.788456
15 Samaritan + South_Finnish + TR + Ukrainian-Russian @ 3.798463
16 Mandean + Northwest_Russian + Samaritan + South_Finnish @ 3.803011
17 Samaritan + South_Italian_&_Sicilian + UA + Udmurt @ 3.820546
18 IQ + Samaritan + South_Finnish + West_Russian @ 3.826726
19 Samaritan + TR + West_Russian + West_Russian @ 3.827956
20 Samaritan + South_Finnish + TR + West_Russian @ 3.833287

[Congolese Rice]

You are deluded when it comes to genetics and human origins. You claimed that the Amerindians are close to Jews and that they were of the same race, this is completely incorrect. As I have explained multiple times, Amerindians are a rather genetically distinct peoples that are only really close to Siberians and east Asians. Nothing to do with Jews. If anything Jews are closer to Europeans than they are to Amerindians.

Very true lol, that's like saying my north african is equal to my ghanaian ancestry because both are "african" right? XD


nahhh, Moroccans are a mediterranoid people, African, yes, black african? no xD


this guy just makes of his ethnicity whatever he wants to, like this is literally the example of it LMAO, and i thought i were deluded when it came to my ethnicity a while back, this guy takes the cake.


Besides, who even gives a fuck about a ethnicity that is <1%??? jesus christ. I am 2% amerindian and i dont even give a shit, its only 2% get over it lmao


he just wants to feel more "exotic" because hes a average white joe

[Congolese Rice]

Oracles are not necessarily representative of Jewish ancestry. 23andme test is best for that.

Btw, do you know what these abbreviations mean?
Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +
1 Erzya + GR + HU + IQ @ 3.281130
2 Erzya + HU + IQ + South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 3.281311
3 GR + HU + IQ + North_Russian @ 3.421117
4 Erzya + IQ + Serbian + South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 3.503981
5 IQ + North_Russian + Serbian + South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 3.538666
6 HU + IQ + North_Russian + South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 3.545541
7 IQ + North_Russian + RO + South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 3.613819
8 North_Russian + PL + Samaritan + TR @ 3.645420
9 East_Russian + PL + Samaritan + TR @ 3.673459
10 East_Russian + GR + HU + IQ @ 3.717732
11 GR + IQ + North_Russian + Serbian @ 3.722219
12 Mandean + Samaritan + South_Finnish + West_Russian @ 3.741313
13 Erzya + IQ + RO + South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 3.758336
14 Erzya + GR + IQ + Serbian @ 3.788456
15 Samaritan + South_Finnish + TR + Ukrainian-Russian @ 3.798463
16 Mandean + Northwest_Russian + Samaritan + South_Finnish @ 3.803011
17 Samaritan + South_Italian_&_Sicilian + UA + Udmurt @ 3.820546
18 IQ + Samaritan + South_Finnish + West_Russian @ 3.826726
19 Samaritan + TR + West_Russian + West_Russian @ 3.827956
20 Samaritan + South_Finnish + TR + West_Russian @ 3.833287

the Jtest oracle is ass, lol.

[rein]

Very true lol, that's like saying my north african is equal to my ghanaian ancestry because both are "african" right? XD


nahhh, Moroccans are a mediterranoid people, African, yes, black african? no xD


this guy just makes of his ethnicity whatever he wants to, like this is literally the example of it LMAO, and i thought i were deluded when it came to my ethnicity a while back, this guy takes the cake.


Besides, who even gives a fuck about a ethnicity that is <1%??? jesus christ. I am 2% amerindian and i dont even give a shit, its only 2% get over it lmao


he just wants to feel more "exotic" because hes a average white joe

North Africans originally came from the Middle East thousands of years ago.

[Gründig]

Oracles are not necessarily representative of Jewish ancestry. 23andme test is best for that.

Btw, do you know what these abbreviations mean?
Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +
1 Erzya + GR + HU + IQ @ 3.281130
2 Erzya + HU + IQ + South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 3.281311
3 GR + HU + IQ + North_Russian @ 3.421117
4 Erzya + IQ + Serbian + South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 3.503981
5 IQ + North_Russian + Serbian + South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 3.538666
6 HU + IQ + North_Russian + South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 3.545541
7 IQ + North_Russian + RO + South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 3.613819
8 North_Russian + PL + Samaritan + TR @ 3.645420
9 East_Russian + PL + Samaritan + TR @ 3.673459
10 East_Russian + GR + HU + IQ @ 3.717732
11 GR + IQ + North_Russian + Serbian @ 3.722219
12 Mandean + Samaritan + South_Finnish + West_Russian @ 3.741313
13 Erzya + IQ + RO + South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 3.758336
14 Erzya + GR + IQ + Serbian @ 3.788456
15 Samaritan + South_Finnish + TR + Ukrainian-Russian @ 3.798463
16 Mandean + Northwest_Russian + Samaritan + South_Finnish @ 3.803011
17 Samaritan + South_Italian_&_Sicilian + UA + Udmurt @ 3.820546
18 IQ + Samaritan + South_Finnish + West_Russian @ 3.826726
19 Samaritan + TR + West_Russian + West_Russian @ 3.827956
20 Samaritan + South_Finnish + TR + West_Russian @ 3.833287

I'd assume Greece, Hungary and Iraq?

I only ask because david (the creator) says the Jtest is outdated and this:

"if you're still not sure what your Jtest results mean, then just focus on your Jtest Oracle-4 output at GEDmatch, and if you don't see AJ at the top of the oracle list, then this is a strong signal that you don't have substantial Ashkenazi ancestry"

You are correct though, 23andme is good at detecting it and says he has about 5%.

[Congolese Rice]

North Africans originally came from the Middle East thousands of years ago.

I dont think so my G, if thats true then genetically north africans shouldnt be seperatable from SW asian/Levantine ancestry, yet it is lmao. They are two seperate things. The original berbers were African, then came the european invaders and Arabs.

And it makes sense since "Berberids" are mediterranoid, and not Orientalid. and thats exactly what they are, they are a african mediterranean people, not middle eastern caucasoid.



Edit: lol, i looked it up to be sure

https://www.quora.com/Why-are-people-of-North-Africa-fair-skinned


seems like u are correct in some way, mothafuckas.


wtf though... whatever, imma still consider myself half african nevertheless xD berbers still africans to me nigga

[Richmondbread]

I have Amerindian ancestry. Whether or not it shows up much on test makes no difference. You take the documented evidence and DNA results and make a logical conclusion.

[rein]

I'd assume Greece, Hungary and Iraq?

I only ask because david (the creator) says the Jtest is outdated and this:

"if you're still not sure what your Jtest results mean, then just focus on your Jtest Oracle-4 output at GEDmatch, and if you don't see AJ at the top of the oracle list, then this is a strong signal that you don't have substantial Ashkenazi ancestry"

I figured. What about UA and TR?

[Richmondbread]

You are deluded when it comes to genetics and human origins. You claimed that the Amerindians are close to Jews and that they were of the same race, this is completely incorrect. As I have explained multiple times, Amerindians are a rather genetically distinct peoples that are only really close to Siberians and east Asians. Nothing to do with Jews. If anything Jews are closer to Europeans than they are to Amerindians.

I'm talking mainly about Cherokee ancestry. Other Indian tribes have different results for that. Notice that none of the actual tribes are even listed on any genetic tests. They are using a very broad spectrum of DNA mainly from South America.

[Gründig]

I figured. What about UA and TR?

Ukraine and Turkey.

[Richmondbread]

No one will give me the benefit of the doubt? Even when the test immediately states that 4% and under makes it unlikely that you are a Jew?

[rein]

I dont think so my G, if thats true then genetically north africans shouldnt be seperatable from SW asian/Levantine ancestry, yet it is lmao. They are two seperate things. The original berbers were African, then came the european invaders and Arabs.

And it makes sense since "Berberids" are mediterranoid, and not Orientalid. and thats exactly what they are, they are a african mediterranean people, not middle eastern caucasoid.



Edit: lol, i looked it up to be sure

https://www.quora.com/Why-are-people-of-North-Africa-fair-skinned


seems like u are correct in some way, mothafuckas.


wtf though... whatever, imma still consider myself half african nevertheless xD berbers still africans to me nigga

Essentially, about ten thousand years ago a population wave from the near East swept over North Africa, bringing in gracile Mediterranean people in the Capsian era. A later wave of immigration occurred in the Neolithic when the expanding farmers from the near east ploughed their way across North Africa, some leaving artwork in the central Sahara to mark their passage. https://mathildasanthropologyblog.wordpress.com/2008/05/02/eurasian-origins-of-the-berbers/

Essentially it happened a long time ago.

[Kelmendasi]

I'm talking mainly about Cherokee ancestry. Other Indian tribes have different results for that. Notice that none of the actual tribes are even listed on any genetic tests. They are using a very broad spectrum of DNA mainly from South America.
The Cherokees are part of the Amerindians, they aren't genetically different. DNA tests differentiate the Amerindian from north America and south America so your wrong on that as well. Cut this Jewish Cherokee thing out, it's laughable and dumb

[Congolese Rice]

Essentially, about ten thousand years ago a population wave from the near East swept over North Africa, bringing in gracile Mediterranean people in the Capsian era. A later wave of immigration occurred in the Neolithic when the expanding farmers from the near east ploughed their way across North Africa, some leaving artwork in the central Sahara to mark their passage. https://mathildasanthropologyblog.wordpress.com/2008/05/02/eurasian-origins-of-the-berbers/

Essentially it happened a long time ago.

lol, now i am confused whether i can acclaim being truly mulatto or not... Since north africans are essentially just semites/afro-asiatics, LOL. eitherway would i care. Genomebox gives me 35.75% black african, and 5.97% afro-asiatic/moroccan so its cool with me. the 5.97% loose arab/asiatic percentage could also be ethiopian for all i know, as Dougs reading gave me more Oromo ethiopian rather than moroccan, infact my moroccan was only 3-4%.

[Gründig]

No one will give me the benefit of the doubt? Even when the test immediately states that 4% and under makes it unlikely that you are a Jew?

The test is outdated. This is from the creator:

"Update 19/03/2018: It's come to my attention that many people are still using the Jtest and taking the results very seriously. Indeed, perhaps too seriously.

Also, some users are doing weird stuff with the Jtest output in an attempt to estimate their supposedly "true" Ashkenazi ancestry proportions, like multiplying their Ashkenazi coefficient by three, because Ashkenazi Jews "only" score around 30% Ashkenazi in this test. Ouch! Please don't do that!

Let me reiterate that this test was only supposed to be a fun experiment. It was never meant to be the definitive online Ashkenazi ancestry test. And even as fun experiments with ADMIXTURE go, it's now horribly outdated, and probably useless for anyone with less than 15-20% Ashkenazi ancestry.

So it might be time to move on. If you really want to confirm your Jewish ancestry, either or both Ashkenazi and Sephardi, then you need to look at much more powerful and sophisticated options. One of these options is the Global25 analysis (see HERE), which can pick up minor Jewish ancestry of just a few per cent. But it's not free (USD $12), and it's a DIY test that requires a bit of time and effort to get the most out of it. Also, you'd need to send me your autosomal file so that I can estimate your Global25 coordinates. But I can help you get started and even quickly check if you have any hope at all of confirming Jewish ancestry.

If, for whatever reason, you'd rather not take advantage of the Global25 offer, because, say, you don't want to share your data with me, then it might be an idea to join the Anthrogenica discussion board and ask the experienced members there about other options [LINK].

In any case, whatever you choose to do, please remember the following points, and feel free to share them with others who are still using the Jtest:

- do not multiply your Jtest Ashkenazi score by 3 in an attempt to find your "true" Ashkenazi ancestry proportion, because this won't work for the vast majority of users

- but do compare your Jtest Ashkenazi score to those of other people of the same or very similar ancestry to yours to get a rough idea whether you might have any Ashkenazi ancestry (the Jtest population averages will be useful for this, see here)

- if you're still not sure what your Jtest results mean, then just focus on your Jtest Oracle-4 output at GEDmatch, and if you don't see AJ at the top of the oracle list, then this is a strong signal that you don't have substantial Ashkenazi ancestry"



Check your 4 way oracle on gedmatch and see. You might not show up as jewish on there but all it means is that you don't have substantial Ashkenazi ancestry, which no one claims you have. However, you do have close to 5% (which is not substantial) which 23andme shows and they are good at detecting it.

[rein]

lol, now i am confused whether i can acclaim being truly mulatto or not... Since north africans are essentially just semites/afro-asiatics, LOL. eitherway would i care. Genomebox gives me 35.75% black african, and 5.97% afro-asiatic/moroccan so its cool with me. the 5.97% loose arab/asiatic percentage could also be ethiopian for all i know, as Dougs reading gave me more Oromo ethiopian rather than moroccan, infact my moroccan was only 3-4%.

Modern-day North Africans can be modelled as 7/8 Arabian and 1/8 SSA.

[Congolese Rice]

Modern-day North Africans can be modelled as 7/8 Arabian and 1/8 SSA.

oof, well it seems that i am 1-2% arabian then xD not that i care much about it eitherway. i really thought north africans were distinct from any other population, lol wow i have bamboozled myself

[Congolese Rice]

The test is outdated. This is from the creator:

"Update 19/03/2018: It's come to my attention that many people are still using the Jtest and taking the results very seriously. Indeed, perhaps too seriously.

Also, some users are doing weird stuff with the Jtest output in an attempt to estimate their supposedly "true" Ashkenazi ancestry proportions, like multiplying their Ashkenazi coefficient by three, because Ashkenazi Jews "only" score around 30% Ashkenazi in this test. Ouch! Please don't do that!

Let me reiterate that this test was only supposed to be a fun experiment. It was never meant to be the definitive online Ashkenazi ancestry test. And even as fun experiments with ADMIXTURE go, it's now horribly outdated, and probably useless for anyone with less than 15-20% Ashkenazi ancestry.

So it might be time to move on. If you really want to confirm your Jewish ancestry, either or both Ashkenazi and Sephardi, then you need to look at much more powerful and sophisticated options. One of these options is the Global25 analysis (see HERE), which can pick up minor Jewish ancestry of just a few per cent. But it's not free (USD $12), and it's a DIY test that requires a bit of time and effort to get the most out of it. Also, you'd need to send me your autosomal file so that I can estimate your Global25 coordinates. But I can help you get started and even quickly check if you have any hope at all of confirming Jewish ancestry.

If, for whatever reason, you'd rather not take advantage of the Global25 offer, because, say, you don't want to share your data with me, then it might be an idea to join the Anthrogenica discussion board and ask the experienced members there about other options [LINK].

In any case, whatever you choose to do, please remember the following points, and feel free to share them with others who are still using the Jtest:

- do not multiply your Jtest Ashkenazi score by 3 in an attempt to find your "true" Ashkenazi ancestry proportion, because this won't work for the vast majority of users

- but do compare your Jtest Ashkenazi score to those of other people of the same or very similar ancestry to yours to get a rough idea whether you might have any Ashkenazi ancestry (the Jtest population averages will be useful for this, see here)

- if you're still not sure what your Jtest results mean, then just focus on your Jtest Oracle-4 output at GEDmatch, and if you don't see AJ at the top of the oracle list, then this is a strong signal that you don't have substantial Ashkenazi ancestry"



Check your 4 way oracle on gedmatch and see. You might not show up as jewish on there but all it means is that you don't have substantial Ashkenazi ancestry, which no one claims you have. However, you do have close to 5% (which is not substantial) which 23andme shows and they are good at detecting it.

lol, well then this nigga probably aint jewish but he does have middle eastern ancestry i think. unless euros scoring 2.20% middle eastern and 7% west asian is normal then dont mind me xD

[Gründig]

lol, well then this nigga probably aint jewish but he does have middle eastern ancestry i think. unless euros scoring 2.20% middle eastern and 7% west asian is normal then dont mind me xD

He doesn't have any substantial AJ but he does have a small amount.

[Congolese Rice]

He doesn't have any substantial AJ but he does have a small amount.

Well ok, would make sense to some degree i suppose. If his 23andMe showed him to be part ashkenazi im pretty sure its true then lol. also because hes predominantly euro, and 23andme is owned by jews i dont think he can go wrong xD i would be curious to see what a 23andme test would give me still.. Idk, imo i like the more general/broad tests.

like the tests that give you only your continental percentage and thats about it. Tests like MyGenomeBox and 23andMe i suppose.


AncestryDNA lacks overal african samples and creates too many overlaps here and there in continental europe and britain so i dont even know how accurate their estimates are anymore. I've seen italians and spaniards and french people getting their predominant percentage taken and switched into england/nw euro, NOW that is some weird shit.

[Figaro]

My mom is confirmed 1/16 AJ, scores only like 4.5% on there. It's not a fantastic tool for that purpose, really.

[Sacrificed Ram]

Irrelevant, I can be descendant of King David himself, but what defines a jew is if his mother is jewess, my mother is black, genetic means nothing.

[Figaro]

Irrelevant, I can be descendant of King David himself, but what defines a jew is if his mother is jewess, my mother is black, genetic means nothing.

Matrineal Jewish "inheritance" is not universal to all Jewish groups, broski

[Kamal900]

You were never a Jew or an Amerindian. What's up with you White Americans identifying yourselves with exotic ancestries for?

[Figaro]

You were never a Jew or an Amerindian. What's up with you White Americans identifying yourselves with exotic ancestries for?

I think it has something to do with the "one drop rule" still holding a minor influence on average American thinking. It is kind of funny to see some with only a smidgen of native American (for example) say they identify primarily as Amerindian. If 0.5% can be such an influencer on racial instincts, why can't 99.5% of the other thing?

[Sacrificed Ram]

Matrineal Jewish "inheritance" is not universal to all Jewish groups, broski

It is in israeli laws to define a jew.

[Figaro]

It is in israeli laws to define a jew.

You mean the state of Israel today?

Hmm, not sure I knew that.

[Congolese Rice]

Irrelevant, I can be descendant of King David himself, but what defines a jew is if his mother is jewess, my mother is black, genetic means nothing.

ayyy my mom is black too B^)


aint often you see a black mum white/other dad mix.

its usually black fathers and white mother mulattos xD

[Congolese Rice]

You were never a Jew or an Amerindian. What's up with you White Americans identifying yourselves with exotic ancestries for?

exactly XD even i am closer to Caribbean natives and american natives than this guy is. Ancestry gives me 1-2% Amerindian, and average is 2%. Doug McDonald gave me 2.30% amerind.

MyGenomeBox gives me 4.14% amerind, so yeah, its definitely existing xD

if this guy's 23andme didnt give him amerind chances are he didnt inherit the amerindian dna from his supposed amerindian ancestor.

[Kamal900]

I think it has something to do with the "one drop rule" still holding a minor influence on average American thinking. It is kind of funny to see some with only a smidgen of native American (for example) say they identify primarily as Amerindian. If 0.5% can be such an influencer of racial instincts, why can't 99.5% of the other thing?

Well, that makes sense, but such reasoning is seriously outdated. We know that Ashkenazi Jews are half Levantine half Europeans genetically, and the reason why some people may score some Ashkenazi Jewish ancestry is simply due to having some west Asian ancestry that doesn't necessarily directly derive from Jews, you know? I think such motivation behind such thinking has to do in them being ashamed of their European identity and ancestry, espicially today where being White is very taboo in the western world by liberals and the like.

[Figaro]

Ha! I knew it couldn't be possible.

Read this:
our genetic ancestry calculator results
Eurogenes Jtest K14This test is for people of Ashkenazi Jewish descent. If you are European then a result of up to 4% does not signify Ashkenazi Jewish ancestry, as it is an average result for Europeans on this calculator. This test is not for Sephardi or Mizrahi Jewish populations.

Calculator model by Davidski

MY RESULTS:

Population Percentage
South Baltic 16.82%
East Euro 13.33%
North-Central Euro 24.78%
Atlantic 19.34%
West Med 11.85%
Ashkenazim 3.54%
East Med 0.00%
West Asian 7.47%
Middle Eastern 2.10%
South Asian 0.00%
East African 0.77%
East Asian 0.00%
Siberian 0.00%
West African 0.00%

I noticed on your profile that you list "distant native american" ancestry. And yet 0% "Siberian" on this test? I'd expect something in that department, plus other hints. How do you score in that department on eurogenes k13/15?

[Congolese Rice]

I noticed on your profile that you list "distant native american" ancestry. And yet 0% "Siberian" on this test? I'd expect something in that department, plus other hints. How do you score in that department on eurogenes k13/15?

EAST_ASIAN 0.41
SIBERIAN 0.92

XDDDDDDD atleast i score some asian percentages, and i am only 2% amerind, this shit funny.

[Figaro]

Well, that makes sense, but such reasoning is seriously outdated. We know that Ashkenazi Jews are half Levantine half Europeans genetically, and the reason why some people may score some Ashkenazi Jewish ancestry is simply due to having some west Asian ancestry that doesn't necessarily directly derive from Jews, you know? I think such motivation behind such thinking has to do in them being ashamed of their European identity and ancestry, espicially today where being White is very taboo in the western world by liberals and the like.

I agree with basically everything you said here. Also, trace "exotic" ancestries much of the time can just be attributed to ancient connections, or just noise from the calculators/algorithms. This is one of my peeves with 23andme's underexplaining in regards to this stuff...it actually is in all probability making a lot of families sense of their own history less accurate (ironic?). Now you've got People who've lived in Minnesota all their lives proclaiming to the world they have some distant Samoan ancestry, just because 23andme gave them 0.1% Polynesian....lol...

[Sacrificed Ram]

You mean the state of Israel today?

Hmm, not sure I knew that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Who_is_a_Jew%3F#Traditional_interpretation_and_var iations

[Kamal900]

I agree with basically everything you said here. Also, trace "exotic" ancestries much of the time can just be attributed to ancient connections, or just noise from the calculators/algorithms. This is one of my peeves with 23andme's underexplaining in regards to this stuff...it actually is in all probability making a lot of families sense of their own history less accurate (ironic?). Now you've got People who've lived in Minnesota all their lives proclaiming to the world they have some distant Samoan ancestry, just because 23andme gave them 0.1% Polynesian....lol...

I guess I should start identify myself as an Australian Aborigine because I score 1.5% Onge or Austroloid, lol.

[Congolese Rice]

I guess I should start identify myself as an Australian Aborigine because I score 1.5% Onge or Austroloid, lol.

yeah, i should start identifying as black african because i am 36-40% black african, amen my dear black brothers and sisters

[Figaro]

EAST_ASIAN 0.41
SIBERIAN 0.92

XDDDDDDD atleast i score some asian percentages, and i am only 2% amerind, this shit funny.

Eurogenes K13 gives my father about 1.5% in both the Amerindian and Siberian categories, and I'm quite very confident we have no native American ancestry whatsoever (no deep colonial roots, mainly just 19th century immigrants in my case). In my dad's case those percentages are probably just reflecting Steppe-derived migrations..maybe some slight smidgen of Finno-ugric ancestry from the Scando side. He also scores 0.33% Amerindian on WeGene, lol...

[Congolese Rice]

Eurogenes K13 gives my father about 1.5% in both the Amerindian and Siberian categories, and I'm quite very confident we have no native American ancestry whatsoever (no deep colonial roots, mainly just 19th century immigrants in my case). In my dad's case those percentages are probably just reflecting Steppe-stuff.

Could very well be possible lol, if your family isnt super long in the US chances are its not actual Amerindian ancestry. it COULD be but idk where it couldve come from since 1.5% is very old, so yeah ur probably right.


East_Asian 1.65
Siberian -
Amerindian 1.95

^ i score quite alot, but i dont think my east asian is actual part of my amerind, since i already score 2% amerind lmao, any more than 2%> is excess and not part of my amerind i think, same case with mygenomebox, that test gives me 4.14% amerindian LOL

[Wrong]

1droprule

Anyway, any calculator made by Polak king Polako is not trustworthy.

[Figaro]

1droprule

Anyway, any calculator made by Polak king Polako is not trustworthy.

Somewhere, Peterski's blood pressure just shot up.

[Congolese Rice]

Somewhere, Peterski's blood pressure just shot up.

peterski:


https://i.imgflip.com/1y1b3y.jpg


WTF DID YOU SAY YOU PLEB?!

[Asheffar]

Educate yourself,bro

[Richmondbread]

I have documented Amerindian ancestry on my family tree. No Jewish documented Jews on there . I still say it is noise. Whatever. So now the test is "outdated" because it says 4% or under isn't really Jewish ancestry? That's good enough for me.

[Richmondbread]

I noticed on your profile that you list "distant native american" ancestry. And yet 0% "Siberian" on this test? I'd expect something in that department, plus other hints. How do you score in that department on eurogenes k13/15?

I got trace amount of Siberian

Population Percentage
North_Atlantic 39.21%
Baltic 28.13%
West Mediterranean 14.51%
West Asian 8.95%
East Mediterranean 4.41%
Red Sea 0.49%
South Asian 0.34%
East Asian 0.00%
Siberian 0.24%
Amerindian 1.30%
Oceanian 0.76%
Northeast African 1.67%
Sub-Saharan 0.00%

[Gründig]

I have documented Amerindian ancestry on my family tree. No Jewish documented Jews on there . I still say it is noise. Whatever. So now the test is "outdated" because it says 4% or under isn't really Jewish ancestry? That's good enough for me.

You clearly can't read.

[Gründig]

I got trace amount of Siberian

Population Percentage
North_Atlantic 39.21%
Baltic 28.13%
West Mediterranean 14.51%
West Asian 8.95%
East Mediterranean 4.41%
Red Sea 0.49%
South Asian 0.34%
East Asian 0.00%
Siberian 0.24%
Amerindian 1.30%
Oceanian 0.76%
Northeast African 1.67%
Sub-Saharan 0.00%

These calculators are not read the same as 23andme.

[The Lawspeaker]

for me it was also sucky to find out that i wasnt arab but you gotta deal with it fool xD
No, you came flying in by KLM, not on a rug ! ;)

[Richmondbread]

These calculators are not read the same as 23andme.

Yes, because we all know 23andme is completely infallible.

[Gründig]

Yes, because we all know 23andme is completely infallible.

You know the gedmatch data is your 23andme data, right?

[Richmondbread]

You know the gedmatch data is your 23andme data, right?

I know that, but Gedmatch is the raw data. 23andme interprets using algorythms. 23andme has been reviewed many times as not being very accurate. There are numerous sources that say so.

[Gründig]

I know that, but Gedmatch is the raw data. 23andme interprets using algorythms. 23andme has been reviewed many times as not being very accurate. There are numerous sources that say so.

Keep living in your imaginary world my little Jewish pocahontas princess.

[Richmondbread]

Keep living in your imaginary world my little Jewish pocahontas princess.

I am tired of arguing. I have documented proof of my Native American ancestry. None, whatsoever of any Jewish. Even so, it doesn't show in my phenotype. I am a Christian, and I'm not Jewish. Don't recognize Jewish holidays, etc.
So it's almost irrelevant.

[Gründig]

I am tired of arguing. I have documented proof of my Native American ancestry. None, whatsoever of any Jewish. Even so, it doesn't show in my phenotype. I am a Christian, and I'm not Jewish. Don't recognize Jewish holidays, etc.
So it's almost irrelevant.

You're the only one who made it relevant, by posting stuff like this.

[Friends of Oliver Society]

The Jew does protest too much.

[Profileid]

I don't get jewish, none of my relatives get jewish.
you have a ton of jewish ancestors on gedmatch.

considering how much you suck jewish dick, i'd think you'd be thrilled to find this out

[Rædwald]

Keep living in your imaginary world my little Jewish pocahontas princess.

http://i.imgur.com/2qsTY.gif

S U B S C R I B E D

[oszkar07]

Ha! I knew it couldn't be possible.

[QUOTE]Read this:
our genetic ancestry calculator results
Eurogenes Jtest K14This test is for people of Ashkenazi Jewish descent. If you are European then a result of up to 4% does not signify Ashkenazi Jewish ancestry, as it is an average result for Europeans on this calculator. This test is not for Sephardi or Mizrahi Jewish populations.

so does this mean anything ....

ASHKENAZI 4.88
EAST_MED 3.96
WEST_ASIAN 5.36
MIDDLE_EASTERN -

[Mortimer]

no you arent you score less then many other non jew europeans its probably noise on 23andme

[Richmondbread]

I don't get jewish, none of my relatives get jewish.
you have a ton of jewish ancestors on gedmatch.

considering how much you suck jewish dick, i'd think you'd be thrilled to find this out

That is not true. I looked on Gedmatch and only 1 or two people come up Jews. I also have Native American relatives, but you ignore that too. With names such as Eaglefeather and Whiterain.

[Profileid]

That is not true. I looked on Gedmatch and only 1 or two people come up Jews. I also have Native American relatives, but you ignore that too. With names such as Eaglefeather and Whiterain.

They're white rednecks. you didn't look close enough. i saw at least ten.

why don't you want to be jewish?

[Richmondbread]

They're white rednecks. you didn't look close enough. i saw at least ten.

why don't you want to be jewish?

10 out of 200..... Wow, big number. I have no issues with Jews. I just don't think of myself that way. Finding out you have a Jewish ancestor, is kind of like finding out you have an axe murderer in the family.

[Kelmendasi]

I have documented Amerindian ancestry on my family tree. No Jewish documented Jews on there . I still say it is noise. Whatever. So now the test is "outdated" because it says 4% or under isn't really Jewish ancestry? That's good enough for me.
I'm pretty sure you scored Jewish on all of your DNA tests, I think this is saying something. Just because someone said that a result of under 4% isn't necessarily indicative of Jewish ancestry doesn't mean you don't have distant Jewish ancestry.

[Richmondbread]

I am a German. See?

http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/file.php?40,file=348307,filename=meade_lederhosen. JPG

[Benyzero]

https://i.imgur.com/tTBltWN.png

[Maintenance]

I have relatives named, Whitehorse and Nighthawk, i was named Whitefang.

[Profileid]

10 out of 200..... Wow, big number. I have no issues with Jews. I just don't think of myself that way.

I have no Jewish relatives on 23andme or gedmatch, no Jewish DNA anywhere.

Lithuania had a huge number of Jews before World War II, so it's not exactly a surprise you have Jewish ancestors.


Finding out you have a Jewish ancestor, is kind of like finding out you have an axe murderer in the family.
But I thought Jews were the Chosens. What does this say about your god?

[Richmondbread]

I have no Jewish relatives on 23andme or gedmatch, no Jewish DNA anywhere.

Lithuania had a huge number of Jews before World War II, so it's not exactly a surprise you have Jewish ancestors.


But I thought Jews were the Chosens. What does this say about your god?

God revealed Himself through the Jews. I just am not a Jew. I am a Gentile. If I have a Jew anywhere, it's so distant. Like my Native American ancestry, it's no longer relevant.

[Profileid]

God revealed Himself through the Jews. I just am not a Jew. I am a Gentile. If I have a Jew anywhere, it's so distant. Like my Native American ancestry, it's no longer relevant.
Why would God reveal Himself through an axe murderer?The Talmud says Jesus is boiling in shit in hell and that Mary was a whore.
So you love people that say these nasty things about Jesus and Mary.Very odd for a "Christian".

You are most likely 1/32 Jewish. Get your dad tested.

[Richmondbread]

Why would God reveal Himself through an axe murderer?The Talmud says Jesus is boiling in shit in hell and that Mary was a whore.
So you love people that say these nasty things about Jesus and Mary.Very odd for a "Christian".

You are most likely 1/32 Jewish. Get your dad tested.

Daddy might have a heart attack if he found out he had any Jew in him.

[Profileid]

I notice you ignored the part about the Talmud.

[Richmondbread]

I notice you ignored the part about the Talmud.

The Jews and Christians both share the Old Testament. Many Jews are coming to know Jesus as their Lord and Savior. We can pray for them to get saved, just as we pray for misguided Muslims.

[Profileid]

So you're cool with them insulting this Savior you supposedly care so much about?
I can't wait for this cucked type of "Christianity" to die out

[Richmondbread]

At least I'm non-Slavic.

[Profileid]

At least I'm non-Slavic.

Get your dad tested. Don't show him the results. Accept you have a Jewish ancestor and move on with life.

God grant me the serenity
to accept the things I cannot change;
courage to change the things I can;
and wisdom to know the difference.

[rein]

So you're cool with them insulting this Savior you supposedly care so much about?
I can't wait for this cucked type of "Christianity" to die out

He is, but he’s not okay with Muslims seeing him as a prophet.

[TheMaestro]

At least I'm non-Slavic.

And me not Jew.

[rein]

I have relatives named, Whitehorse and Nighthawk, i was named Whitefang.

So cool!

[Congolese Rice]

At least I'm non-Slavic.

XDDD yup, atleast your 13% middle eastern/jewish. look at that.

[Richmondbread]

XDDD yup, atleast your 13% middle eastern/jewish. look at that.

Where did you get that figure from? I am 3% Jewish across the board on most tests. It's so unlikely to have just 1 Jew ancestor. That's why I question this .

[Longbowman]

10 out of 200..... Wow, big number. I have no issues with Jews. I just don't think of myself that way. Finding out you have a Jewish ancestor, is kind of like finding out you have an axe murderer in the family.

10 out of 200

5%

idk you tell me man


I am a German. See?

http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/file.php?40,file=348307,filename=meade_lederhosen. JPG

@Teutone
@Gruendig

Will you accept your kinsman? :lol: he is after all significantly ethnically German


I notice you ignored the part about the Talmud.

to be fair it's a stopped clock moment where he ignores an open lie, sort of like where he correctly pointed out that the ancients never believed in flat earth theory

[Richmondbread]

10 out of 200

5%

idk you tell me man

Okay, I guess that makes sense. Still, why are we going with the 1 drop rule? Is this prevalent among genetic researchers? The odds of having just 1 Jewish ancestor is far less likely than being 50% or more Jewish.

[Longbowman]

Okay, I guess that makes sense. Still, why are we going with the 1 drop rule? Is this prevalent among genetic researchers? The odds of having just 1 Jewish ancestor is far less likely than being 50% or more Jewish.

You're not Jewish, I'm not Polish, but you are 1/16 Jewish and I am 1/64 Polish. It's a genetic fact, it doesn't inform who you are.

[Richmondbread]

You're not Jewish, I'm not Polish, but you are 1/16 Jewish and I am 1/64 Polish. It's a genetic fact, it doesn't inform who you are.

So I take it you're disregarding the Disclaimer that notes that 4% or less Jewish in the K14 TEST does not reflect any Jewish ancestry as it is an average score for most all Europeans?

[Longbowman]

So I take it you're disregarding the Disclaimer that notes that 4% or less Jewish in the K14 TEST does not reflect any Jewish ancestry as it is an average score for most all Europeans?

The entire test is worthless, and the disclaimer means that it isn't necessarily indicative as certain ethnicities (not yours, though) may score that amount despite not being Jewish - for example South Italians. But not Krauts.

[Richmondbread]

The entire test is worthless, and the disclaimer means that it isn't necessarily indicative as certain ethnicities (not yours, though) may score that amount despite not being Jewish - for example South Italians. But not Krauts.

Perhaps, but even 23andme gives me under 5% reading, and at conservative estimate almost 0%.

[Profileid]

feels good to have no jewish blood

[Longbowman]

Perhaps, but even 23andme gives me under 5% reading, and at conservative estimate almost 0%.

my girlfriend is 50% chinese. at conservative she gets 0.1% East Asian. Speculative is accurate.

[Richmondbread]

feels good to have no jewish blood

I am descended of Pocahontas and King Edward, III.

[Richmondbread]

my girlfriend is 50% chinese. at conservative she gets 0.1% East Asian. Speculative is accurate.

Then at what point do we consider it statistical noise? Especially when no documented evidence is given?

[Longbowman]

I am [a descendant of] King Edward, III.

So am I, actually. And tens of millions of others.

[Richmondbread]

So am I, actually. And tens of millions of others.

Do you have documented proof and a family tree to show it?

[Longbowman]

Then at what point do we consider it statistical noise? Especially when no documented evidence is given?

On 23andme, for Ashkenazi, for a NW Euro? 0.1% at speculative, I guess, would be noise. Anything more, nah. It's a very good reference.

[Richmondbread]

On 23andme, for Ashkenazi, for a NW Euro? 0.1% at speculative, I guess, would be noise. Anything more, nah. It's a very good reference.

0.05% when I put it on conservative estimate. 4.7% at the very most speculative. It's called speculative for a reason.

[Longbowman]

0.05% when I put it on conservative estimate. 4.7% at the very most speculative. It's called speculative for a reason.

It's a relative designation. They're still confident about it. It's over 50% confidence.

Anyhow I don't have patience for this, this is Gruendig's job. Personally I'm happy for you to be as German as you like.

[rein]

my girlfriend is 50% chinese. at conservative she gets 0.1% East Asian. Speculative is accurate.

How much East Asian does she get at speculative?

[Longbowman]

How much East Asian does she get at speculative?



Confidence level:
50%
60%
70%
80%
90%


East Asian & Native American
50.0%
50.0%
49.9%
49.3%
0.1%


Chinese
39.9%
34.7%
27.1%
17.4%
-


Southeast Asian
4.0%
3.3%
3.2%
1.9%
-


Broadly East Asian
3.7%
6.4%
12.2%
24.3%
-


Broadly East Asian & Native American
2.4%
5.5%
7.4%
5.6%
0.1%

[Richmondbread]

They're white rednecks. you didn't look close enough. i saw at least ten.

why don't you want to be jewish?

Do you consider me a Mischling?

[nittionia]

@Richmondbread

yourdnaportal.com has an ancestry tool that can be used to track an allele to identify native american ancestry. You can upload your data for free if you're interested :)

[Richmondbread]

@Richmondbread

yourdnaportal.com has an ancestry tool that can be used to track an allele to identify native american ancestry. You can upload your data for free if you're interested :)

It was inconclusive.

[Profileid]

I am descended of Pocahontas and King Edward, III.

no

[Richmondbread]

no

Ahem:

https://archive.org/stream/andrewmeadeirel00baskgoog/andrewmeadeirel00baskgoog_djvu.txt

[Profileid]

Confidence level:
50%
60%
70%
80%
90%


East Asian & Native American
50.0%
50.0%
49.9%
49.3%
0.1%


Chinese
39.9%
34.7%
27.1%
17.4%
-


Southeast Asian
4.0%
3.3%
3.2%
1.9%
-


Broadly East Asian
3.7%
6.4%
12.2%
24.3%
-


Broadly East Asian & Native American
2.4%
5.5%
7.4%
5.6%
0.1%



what the fuck?

[Longbowman]

what the fuck?

I know, it's bizarre. Point is, just stick with speculative.

[Richmondbread]

I know, it's bizarre. Point is, just stick with speculative.

Seems like cognitive dissonance is more like it.

[Longbowman]

Seems like cognitive dissonance is more like it.

This would be ironic, if you understood what the term meant.

[Richmondbread]

This would be ironic, if you understood what the term meant.

I was being ironic. Unironically.

[Profileid]

Really makes you think
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/315711208462221313/497608917854060554/Screenshot_2.png

[wvwvw]

1droprule

Anyway, any calculator made by Polak king Polako is not trustworthy.

Why not?

[Smitty]

I have documented Amerindian ancestry on my family tree. No Jewish documented Jews on there . I still say it is noise. Whatever. So now the test is "outdated" because it says 4% or under isn't really Jewish ancestry? That's good enough for me.

How far back do you know your German and Lithuanian ancestry? What are your family surnames on those lines?

[Smitty]

I have no Jewish relatives on 23andme or gedmatch, no Jewish DNA anywhere.

Lithuania had a huge number of Jews before World War II, so it's not exactly a surprise you have Jewish ancestors.

Didn't you score 0.3% Ashkenazi on 23andme?

[Profileid]

Didn't you score 0.3% Ashkenazi on 23andme?

And I got 1.1% southern euro.
What's the significance?

[Friends of Oliver Society]

I am a German. See?

[IMG]http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/file.php?40,file=348307,filen

My great uncle didn't shoot krauts in Sicily so you could play dress up.

[Smitty]

And I got 1.1% southern euro.
What's the significance?

I don't think it's significant, but it's not 0.0% either. Longbowman apparently thinks you have Jewish ancestry, though.

Not trolling here, by the way. I have ancestry from the city of Posen, 20% Jewish historically. Who knows what's in my tree...

[Profileid]

I don't think it's significant, but it's not 0.0% either. Longbowman apparently thinks you have Jewish ancestry, though.

Not trolling here, by the way. I have ancestry from the city of Posen, 20% Jewish historically. Who knows what's in my tree...

Longbowman was either joking or attempting to piss me off.

Why don't you get tested?

[Smitty]

Longbowman was either joking or attempting to piss me off.

Why don't you get tested?

Eh, I can't afford it right now. But I'd like to. Genealogy has so many frustrating dead-ends.

Honestly, though, I'm not so sure I want to open that Pandora's box. Like I said, who knows what I might find, lol.

[Pandit]

(((Richmondbread)))

[Longbowman]

Really makes you think
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/315711208462221313/497608917854060554/Screenshot_2.png

Doesn't Meade know that Karl Marx was a Protestant Christian with Jewish blood, just like him? Really dinks you donk.


Longbowman was either joking or attempting to piss me off.

Why don't you get tested?

Joking, I didn't know about your 0.3%. Might be real, but 0.3% isn't very much. Would account for your triple-digit IQ, your Jew hair, your tan skin, and classic Jewish self-hatred.

[Slavic Italian]

You know I get some Jewish on some of these calcs and on some of the services but personally at the very most I could have one Jewish ancestor if that. It would have been a very long time ago.

[indo-uralopean]

You are the male Pocahontas.

[Richmondbread]

How far back do you know your German and Lithuanian ancestry? What are your family surnames on those lines?

My grandmother's parents were from Lithuania. My grandfather's parents were from Germany. The Germans I trace to 19th Century Leipzig. and then the River Rhine.
Mygreat grandfather was born in Lipzeig Germany, His wife's name was Gertrude and she was born in Pfeddersheim
My grandmother's family were from Vilinus. They left Lithuania because of the Russians. They weren't Jews.
My mother's side is all old Colonial Southern: Virginia, Carolinas, etc. No Jews there.

[Longbowman]

My grandmother's family were from Vilinus. They left Lithuania because of the Russians. They weren't Jews.

Sounds pretty Jewish. How much Eastern European do you score?

[Richmondbread]

Sounds pretty Jewish. How much Eastern European do you score?

On 23andme I score 17.4% Says Lithuania on it.

[Congolese Rice]

Sounds pretty Jewish. How much Eastern European do you score?

hes never gonna awsner this question XD


edit: no nvm he did, goddammit richmond, you are determined to disproof your jewish ancestry! i admire your determination xD

[Leto]

@Richmondbread, share your Dodecad K12b results please. I'd like to check something.

[Smeagol]

0% Siberian/East Eurasian… Sorry, but your Ashkenazi ancestry is much more likely to be Ashkenazi than Cherokee. One of your grandparents was probably around 1/4 based on all your test results I've seen. There was a large population of Jews in Vilnius, so it's not really surprising.

[Richmondbread]

@Richmondbread, share your Dodecad K12b results please. I'd like to check something.

# Population Percent
1 North_European 44.83
2 Atlantic_Med 31.2
3 Caucasus 12.04
4 Gedrosia 7.55
5 Southwest_Asian 1.78
6 Northwest_African 1.09
7 East_African 0.85
8 Siberian 0.58
9 South_Asian 0.07


# Population (source) Distance
1 German (Dodecad) 4.32
2 Hungarians (Behar) 7.28
3 Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) 9.13
4 Dutch (Dodecad) 10.2
5 CEU30 (1000Genomes) 12.78
6 Kent (1000Genomes) 12.93
7 English (Dodecad) 13.01
8 British_Isles (Dodecad) 14
9 French (Dodecad) 14.43
10 Swedish (Dodecad) 14.77
11 Norwegian (Dodecad) 14.8
12 Argyll (1000Genomes) 14.92
13 French (HGDP) 14.94
14 Orkney (1000Genomes) 15.29
15 Cornwall (1000Genomes) 15.43
16 British (Dodecad) 15.47
17 Orcadian (HGDP) 15.65
18 Irish (Dodecad) 15.72
19 Romanians (Behar) 18.7
20 Polish (Dodecad) 20.5

[Richmondbread]

0% Siberian/East Eurasian… Sorry, but your Ashkenazi ancestry is much more likely to be Ashkenazi than Cherokee. One of your grandparents was probably around 1/4 based on all your test results I've seen. There was a large population of Jews in Vilnius, so it's not really surprising.

So 1 Jew on the family tree. Everyone else was non-Jewish.

[Smeagol]

In fact I just checked, Vilnius was nearly half Jewish at the turn of the century.

[Richmondbread]

In fact I just checked, Vilnius was nearly half Jewish at the turn of the century.

Jews stick together. Why would a Jew choose to marry into my Christian family tree?

[Smeagol]

So 1 Jew on the family tree. Everyone else was non-Jewish.

Yeah, it wouldn't really be relevant if you didn't keep bringing it up.

[Leto]

Even if you are part Ashkenazi, that part must be really small. Not even 1/8. Maybe 1/16 or so. Also keep in mind that the Ashkenazim are only ~50% Middle Eastern, so you are even less ME than you are Ashkenazi.

[Smeagol]

Jews stick together. Why would a Jew choose to marry into my Christian family tree?

I don't know, but that's what happened in my family too.

[Congolese Rice]

Even if you are part Ashkenazi, that part must be really small. Not even 1/8. Maybe 1/16 or so. Also keep in mind that the Ashkenazim are only ~50% Middle Eastern, so you are even less ME than you are Ashkenazi.

this nigga scores 13% middle eastern + ashkenazi on the Jtest eurogenes, im not sure bro xD


he might be only a few percent jewish, but hes more west asian definitely.

[Leto]

this nigga scores 13% middle eastern + ashkenazi on the Jtest eurogenes, im not sure bro xD


he might be only a few percent jewish, but hes more west asian definitely.
That test is far from accurate. His Dodecad results are not very unusual. He is white, son.

[Richmondbread]

I am mostly pure White. I have distant Native American ancestry, and I guess apparently, a Jew somewhere back in Lithuania.

[Congolese Rice]

That test is far from accurate. His Dodecad results are not very unusual. He is white, son.

never said he wasnt white, LOL and i was just joking with him.

hes so determined to disproof his jewish so i was just playing around.


the Jtest is VERY bad for everything xD even its jewish component is completely unclear. you could better even use dodecad or MDLP tests to figure out ur jewish by looking at ur mideastern percentage.


and yes, while he might be white, he isnt whiter than me. i make even vikings hide in shame

[Leto]

# Population Percent
1 North_European 44.83
2 Atlantic_Med 31.2
3 Caucasus 12.04
4 Gedrosia 7.55
5 Southwest_Asian 1.78
6 Northwest_African 1.09
7 East_African 0.85
8 Siberian 0.58
9 South_Asian 0.07


# Population (source) Distance
1 German (Dodecad) 4.32
2 Hungarians (Behar) 7.28
3 Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) 9.13
4 Dutch (Dodecad) 10.2
5 CEU30 (1000Genomes) 12.78
6 Kent (1000Genomes) 12.93
7 English (Dodecad) 13.01
8 British_Isles (Dodecad) 14
9 French (Dodecad) 14.43
10 Swedish (Dodecad) 14.77
11 Norwegian (Dodecad) 14.8
12 Argyll (1000Genomes) 14.92
13 French (HGDP) 14.94
14 Orkney (1000Genomes) 15.29
15 Cornwall (1000Genomes) 15.43
16 British (Dodecad) 15.47
17 Orcadian (HGDP) 15.65
18 Irish (Dodecad) 15.72
19 Romanians (Behar) 18.7
20 Polish (Dodecad) 20.5
A full Jew from Belarus for comparison

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 32.38
2 Atlantic_Med 26.37
3 North_European 15.49
4 Southwest_Asian 14
5 Gedrosia 5.67
6 Northwest_African 4.68
7 East_Asian 0.86
8 Southeast_Asian 0.27
9 Sub_Saharan 0.19
10 South_Asian 0.09

[Congolese Rice]

A full Jew from Belarus for comparison

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 32.38
2 Atlantic_Med 26.37
3 North_European 15.49
4 Southwest_Asian 14
5 Gedrosia 5.67
6 Northwest_African 4.68
7 East_Asian 0.86
8 Southeast_Asian 0.27
9 Sub_Saharan 0.19
10 South_Asian 0.09




Population
Gedrosia 5.33
Siberian 0.67
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 1.25
Atlantic_Med 24.13
North_European 32.89
South_Asian 1.12
East_African 0.91
Southwest_Asian 2.84
East_Asian 0.42
Caucasus 5.32
Sub_Saharan 25.14


OH NO, I AM MORE JEW THAN RICHMOND!!!!!!!!!! GOD HELP US ALL

[Longbowman]

On 23andme I score 17.4% Says Lithuania on it.

So you claim to be 25% Lithuanian, but only appear as 3/4 of that.

Mystery solved.

[Congolese Rice]

So you claim to be 25% Lithuanian, but only appear as 3/4 of that.

Mystery solved.

ayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy


my boy richmond is still a jew



WADDUP MY BROTHER, SHALOMA SHALOMO


https://banner2.kisspng.com/20180621/zwe/kisspng-oy-vey-goy-jewish-people-meme-jews-in-poland-5b2b2ec9899d47.9760666215295566815637.jpg



(no hate to my jews, i love all of them. incase someone takes it the wrong way and permabans me for anti-semite racism XD)

[Richmondbread]

So you claim to be 25% Lithuanian, but only appear as 3/4 of that.

Mystery solved.

So, theoretically the Jewish admixture is in the Lithuanian side? We don't necessarily get all the 100% genes from our grandparents. They are jumbled up like a cocktail and reassembled.

[Richmondbread]

So you claim to be 25% Lithuanian, but only appear as 3/4 of that.

Mystery solved.

So, theoretically the Jewish admixture is in the Lithuanian side? We don't necessarily get all the 100% genes from our grandparents. They are jumbled up like a cocktail and reassembled.

[Congolese Rice]

So, theoretically the Jewish admixture is in the Lithuanian side? We don't necessarily get all the 100% genes from our grandparents. They are jumbled up like a cocktail and reassembled.

you do have a point there.

my great grandfather on my maternal side should be 100% dutch as far as i know and i am only 54-56% european, so that means i only inherited 4-6% from my mom's side, which means my mom is anywhere in the range of 12% Dutch, which is quite possible.

She didnt necessarily have to inherit the exact 25% from her grandfather, she was also the blackest and most Sudanid looking member of her siblings.

[Longbowman]

So, theoretically the Jewish admixture is in the Lithuanian side? We don't necessarily get all the 100% genes from our grandparents. They are jumbled up like a cocktail and reassembled.

it's 99% probable, it's hardly theoretical. Bottom dollar says your Lithuanian grammy was 1/4 kike.

[Congolese Rice]

it's 99% probable, it's hardly theoretical. Bottom dollar says your Lithuanian grammy was 1/4 kike.

xD

[Figaro]

Someone has possibly mentioned this, but I have not looked at every comment here: 23andme is actually a great way to find out if you have Jewish ancestry (especially Ashkenazi Jewish). If you're mostly otherwise northern european, anything above like 0.2% AJ is in all likelihood not noise. Some Italians (mainly Southern) and Greeks can score a little more, as this is reflecting part of the shared ancestry.

[Longbowman]

Someone has possibly mentioned this, but I have not looked at every comment here: 23andme is actually a great way to find out if you have Jewish ancestry (especially Ashkenazi Jewish). If you're mostly otherwise northern european, anything above like 0.2% AJ is in all likelihood not noise. Some Italians (mainly Southern) and Greeks can score a little more, as this is reflecting part of the shared ancestry.

Yeah, could also be Sephardic in context - ie, a Sephardic Jew will score a small amount too.

Richmond and to a lesser extent Etain are part Jew.

[rein]

Yeah, could also be Sephardic in context - ie, a Sephardic Jew will score a small amount too.

Richmond and to a lesser extent Etain are part Jew.

As far as I’m aware Etain doesn’t score any Jewish.

[Richmondbread]

I can accept it. I just need time.

[Congolese Rice]

I can accept it. I just need time.

lol, why wouldnt you wanna be jewish. be glad you atleast have some part of exoticness in your DNA. many euros would be very glad if they had atleast 5% jewish or asiatic ancestry lmao.


i accepted the fact too that i am not and never will be 20%> arab, it isnt that hard. the truth is the truth, theres no twisting around it.

[rein]

lol, why wouldnt you wanna be jewish. be glad you atleast have some part of exoticness in your DNA. many euros would be very glad if they had atleast 5% jewish or asiatic ancestry lmao.


i accepted the fact too that i am not and never will be 20%> arab, it isnt that hard. the truth is the truth, theres no twisting around it.

Did you accept that you’re 20% Sefardi though?

[Congolese Rice]

Did you accept that you’re 20% Sefardi though?


no, i did accept the fact that i am 100% white scandinavian though, and if you tell me otherwise i will smash your head with my waraxe

[rein]

no, i did accept the fact that i am 100% white scandinavian though, and if you tell me otherwise i will smash your head with my waraxe

Catch me if you can.

[Richmondbread]

lol, why wouldnt you wanna be jewish. be glad you atleast have some part of exoticness in your DNA. many euros would be very glad if they had atleast 5% jewish or asiatic ancestry lmao.


i accepted the fact too that i am not and never will be 20%> arab, it isnt that hard. the truth is the truth, theres no twisting around it.

Europeans are far more diverse than any ethnic group. Why would it not be considered exotic to be European? Why must someone be of a heritage from a 3rd world to be considered exotic or unique? I already know my family history, so the DNA test is not even relevant to me.

[Congolese Rice]

Europeans are far more diverse than any ethnic group. Why would it not be considered exotic to be European? Why must someone be of a heritage from a 3rd world to be considered exotic or unique? I already know my family history, so the DNA test is not even relevant to me.

Pffffffffffffffffffffffffffff.fff.f.ffffffffffff.f .f..ff.ff.f


no, they are not.


infact, commercial testing companies have difficulties even seperating Britain from Ireland, from the Netherlands, From Germany, from France without creating any overlap.


wanna know why? because genetically northwest euros are all similar. Central euros are a bit more admixed from all sides, and south euros are even more mixed.


euros arent diverse, Africans are.

In Nigeria alone there are more than 250 ethnic groups. LMAO, you are quite uninformed about the rest of the world.


and no, im not saying anyone from outside of europe is "exotic" because to Africans you europeans are "Exotic" aswell.

im just saying, most europeans find their DNA results quite boring, and wished they had atleast a few more percents from here and there.


And i dont blame them, european culture and ethnicity is pretty boring. Theres not much interesting to it.

[rein]

Pffffffffffffffffffffffffffff.fff.f.ffffffffffff.f .f..ff.ff.f


no, they are not.


infact, commercial testing companies have difficulties even seperating Britain from Ireland, from the Netherlands, From Germany, from France without creating any overlap.


wanna know why? because genetically northwest euros are all similar. Central euros are a bit more admixed from all sides, and south euros are even more mixed.


euros arent diverse, Africans are.

In Nigeria alone there are more than 250 ethnic groups. LMAO, you are quite uninformed about the rest of the world.


and no, im not saying anyone from outside of europe is "exotic" because to Africans you europeans are "Exotic" aswell.

im just saying, most europeans find their DNA results quite boring, and wished they had atleast a few more percents from here and there.


And i dont blame them, european culture and ethnicity is pretty boring. Theres not much interesting to it.

Still genetic companies cannot distinguish between those 250 Nigerian ethnicities. It’s all West African to them.

[nittionia]

I want to be part Jewish

[Richmondbread]

I want to be part Jewish

Okay, let's trade, lol.

[Congolese Rice]

Still genetic companies cannot distinguish between those 250 Nigerian ethnicities. It’s all West African to them.

wanna know why? xD because those 250 ethnicities arent even included in their samples. Maybe only 10 or 20 of them.


West africans are 10x more diverse than any european population and thats 200% facts.

anyone who says otherwise is gonna have to get ready 2 rumble wif me because i will beat ur ass xD

[Congolese Rice]

Okay, let's trade, lol.

https://media.makeameme.org/created/shalom-5aafef.jpg


richmond, u dressed up as a indian chief, as a cowboy, etc etc why dont u dress up as a Jew xD its more fitting for ur ethnic breakdown anyway.

you are 13% middle eastern, embrace your jew heritage my fellow shalom.


OY VEY!

[nittionia]

@Richmond
Ok I'll give you a little of my Iberian?

[Congolese Rice]

richmond belike after being reminded hes more than 5%> jewish


https://jokideo.com/wp-content/uploads/meme/2014/06/Reaction-pic---Crying-meme.jpg


GODDAMMIT, I BETTER PRAY THE JEW AWAY, CUZ GOD WILL HELP ME, AMEN

[Dragoon]

You arent a Jew. Even if you might have distant ancestry.

Go to synagogues? Do you support gay marriage and diversity and pretend to be conservative like neocons?
Feel like making Holocaust movies for Hollywood? Support Israel/Zionism?

(Okay you support Israel like a Judeo-Christian would... maybe you should just become Christian).

[Richmondbread]

@Richmond
Ok I'll give you a little of my Iberian?

I already have 3% Iberian, lol .

[Rædwald]

This whole thread

https://media.giphy.com/media/SQrIdCvhtXZuM/giphy.gif

[nittionia]

I already have 3% Iberian, lol .

Ok I have a bit of Finnish to spare?

This is like trading pokemon cards lool

[Congolese Rice]

Ok I have a bit of Finnish to spare?

This is like trading pokemon cards lool

only neither of you will actually be able to trade genetic DNA XDDD its like a imaginary fantasy version of pokemon cards.


richmond will be 5%> jewish till the day he dies, aint nothing he can change about it. he'll just have to move on as a proud christian.


AND THAT SAYETH GOD, AMEN xD

[nittionia]

only neither of you will actually be able to trade genetic DNA XDDD its like a imaginary fantasy version of pokemon cards.


richmond will be 5%> jewish till the day he dies, aint nothing he can change about it. he'll just have to move on as a proud christian.


AND THAT SAYETH GOD, AMEN xD

I'm just messing around, I get this on gedmatch so that's good enough :p

https://i.imgur.com/aRWJztd.png

But my dad gets this

https://i.imgur.com/DDGKjqf.png

[Congolese Rice]

I'm just messing around, I get this on gedmatch so that's good enough :p

https://i.imgur.com/aRWJztd.png

But my dad gets this

https://i.imgur.com/DDGKjqf.png

Ooo snap, yous a jew! xD thats cool. i dont see why richmond isnt proud of his jewish heritage.


if i were part mizrahi jewish or sephardic jewish i'd be proud of it lol, same way i am proud of my blackness and tolerant of my white ancestry (not proud, but i embrace that it exists and i accept it xD)

[Longbowman]

You arent a Jew. Even if you might have distant ancestry.

Go to synagogues? Do you support gay marriage and diversity and pretend to be conservative like neocons?
Feel like making Holocaust movies for Hollywood? Support Israel/Zionism?

(Okay you support Israel like a Judeo-Christian would... maybe you should just become Christian).

You're a very strange man with very strange beliefs. I hope anthropormophising your societal angst in the form of the Jewish people helps you in some way, otherwise it's just a waste.

[Richmondbread]

Ooo snap, yous a jew! xD thats cool. i dont see why richmond isnt proud of his jewish heritage.


if i were part mizrahi jewish or sephardic jewish i'd be proud of it lol, same way i am proud of my blackness and tolerant of my white ancestry (not proud, but i embrace that it exists and i accept it xD)


I'm proud of American heritage. I am a Native American with Amerindian ancestry. I just didn't know about the Jewish. But I am starting to accept it and ready to move on.

[Richmondbread]

Moderator, please just close this thread. I've said enough.

[Congolese Rice]

I'm proud of American heritage. I am a Native American with Amerindian ancestry. I just didn't know about the Jewish. But I am starting to accept it and ready to move on.

thats good, you should accept it. its not a big deal. at the end of the day you are a white american and you will always be. 5-6% of your ethnicity is not gonna change who you were previously.


just in the same way me being 54% european doesnt make me turn away from the fact that i consider myself 100% afro-caribbean and NOT european. i am also 2% amerindian, do i consider myself amerindian? fuck no nigga, i am afro-carib. facts.

[Congolese Rice]

Moderator, please just close this thread. I've said enough.

https://jokideo.com/wp-content/uploads/meme/2014/06/Reaction-pic---Crying-meme.jpg

enough now niggas, the jewish topic has been ended by richmondbread the lord and savior himself

[Longbowman]

Closed at behest of OP.