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Sikeliot
10-04-2018, 02:06 AM
They seem closest to all non-Ashkenazi Jews first. Then Egypt and Levant. Then Sicily (mostly Agrigento), Malta, and Cyprus.

#1:


# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 35.42
2 Near_East 18.22
3 European_Early_Farmers 17.02
4 North_African 15.74
5 European_Hunters_Gatherers 3.95
6 South_Central_Asian 3.88
7 East_African 2.98


Finished reading population data. 620 populations found.
23 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Tunisian_Jew_ @ 4.787684
2 Libyan_Jew_ @ 6.057694
3 Moroccan_Jew_ @ 7.339904
4 Turk_Jew_ @ 9.140130
5 Sephardic_Jew_ @ 9.937675
6 Italian_Jew_ @ 10.036575
7 Syrian_Jew_ @ 11.131594
8 French_Jew_ @ 12.611155
9 Palestinian_ @ 13.692504
10 Egyptian_Tanta_ @ 13.874969
11 Lebanese_ @ 13.999407
12 Maltese_ @ 14.354866
13 Lebanese_Muslim_ @ 14.781154
14 Sicilian_Agrigento_ @ 14.953813
15 Sicilian_East_ @ 15.142869
16 Cypriot_ @ 15.155710
17 Egyptian_Kafar_Sheikh_ @ 15.211278
18 Jordanian_ @ 15.222204
19 Egyptian_Mansoura_ @ 15.409244
20 Samaritian_ @ 15.610626


#2:


# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 34.96
2 European_Early_Farmers 17.34
3 Near_East 17.30
4 North_African 13.79
5 South_Central_Asian 7.05
6 European_Hunters_Gatherers 2.86
7 East_African 2.18
8 Subsaharian 1.46


Finished reading population data. 620 populations found.
23 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Tunisian_Jew_ @ 5.525884
2 Libyan_Jew_ @ 6.250958
3 Moroccan_Jew_ @ 6.373940
4 Turk_Jew_ @ 8.017362
5 Sephardic_Jew_ @ 8.110652
6 Syrian_Jew_ @ 8.374772
7 Italian_Jew_ @ 9.066848
8 French_Jew_ @ 11.302735
9 Lebanese_ @ 12.186861
10 Lebanese_Muslim_ @ 12.841175
11 Palestinian_ @ 13.027927
12 Maltese_ @ 13.631512
13 Sicilian_Agrigento_ @ 13.644454
14 Cypriot_ @ 13.645576
15 Jordanian_ @ 13.732656
16 Muslim_Arabs_Israel_ @ 13.754843
17 Samaritian_ @ 14.284254
18 Sicilian_East_ @ 14.436160
19 Cretan_ @ 14.556925
20 Ashkenazi_Jew_ @ 15.262390

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Libyan_Jew_ +50% Syrian_Jew_ @ 3.917054



#3:


# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 37.41
2 European_Early_Farmers 20.05
3 Near_East 17.11
4 North_African 15.06
5 South_Central_Asian 3.22
6 East_African 2.64


Finished reading population data. 620 populations found.
23 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Tunisian_Jew_ @ 2.904383
2 Libyan_Jew_ @ 4.519686
3 Moroccan_Jew_ @ 6.491186
4 Turk_Jew_ @ 8.500180
5 Italian_Jew_ @ 8.745802
6 Sephardic_Jew_ @ 9.086588
7 Syrian_Jew_ @ 11.326054
8 French_Jew_ @ 11.707816
9 Cypriot_ @ 13.716636
10 Maltese_ @ 14.302845
11 Sicilian_Agrigento_ @ 14.795803
12 Christian_Arabs_Israel_ @ 14.863659
13 Sicilian_East_ @ 15.187325
14 Lebanese_ @ 15.449523
15 Lebanese_Muslim_ @ 15.763229
16 Palestinian_ @ 15.817353
17 Greek_Islands_ @ 16.263355
18 Cretan_ @ 16.382292
19 Sicilian_Center_ @ 16.542601
20 Samaritian_ @ 16.681297

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Tunisian_Jew_ +50% Tunisian_Jew_ @ 2.904383


#4:



# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 34.80
2 European_Early_Farmers 20.69
3 Near_East 16.03
4 North_African 13.78
5 European_Hunters_Gatherers 5.77
6 South_Central_Asian 4.78
7 Australoid 1.15
8 Khoisan 1.08


Finished reading population data. 620 populations found.
23 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Moroccan_Jew_ @ 3.523848
2 Libyan_Jew_ @ 5.006415
3 Turk_Jew_ @ 5.470695
4 Tunisian_Jew_ @ 5.568896
5 Sephardic_Jew_ @ 5.798404
6 Italian_Jew_ @ 6.087355
7 French_Jew_ @ 8.004473
8 Maltese_ @ 9.490262
9 Sicilian_Agrigento_ @ 9.957698
10 Sicilian_East_ @ 10.672955
11 Syrian_Jew_ @ 10.878019
12 Ashkenazi_Jew_ @ 11.806980
13 Sicilian_Trapani_ @ 11.826324
14 Sicilian_West_ @ 12.042209
15 Sicilian_Siracusa_ @ 12.291348
16 Cretan_ @ 12.755188
17 Sicilian_Center_ @ 13.433475
18 Romanian_Jew_ @ 13.609814
19 Ashkenazi_ @ 14.044408
20 Cypriot_ @ 14.531116

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Libyan_Jew_ +50% Turk_Jew_ @ 3.448465


#5:


# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 37.22
2 Near_East 18.58
3 European_Early_Farmers 18.56
4 North_African 14.15
5 European_Hunters_Gatherers 3.84
6 South_Central_Asian 3.09
7 East_African 1.42
8 Paleo_Siberian 1.11
9 South_Indian 1.09


Finished reading population data. 620 populations found.
23 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Tunisian_Jew_ @ 4.032890
2 Libyan_Jew_ @ 5.673413
3 Moroccan_Jew_ @ 6.436367
4 Turk_Jew_ @ 7.226547
5 Italian_Jew_ @ 7.951756
6 Sephardic_Jew_ @ 8.231823
7 Syrian_Jew_ @ 10.455934
8 French_Jew_ @ 11.004876
9 Cypriot_ @ 12.977954
10 Maltese_ @ 13.337090
11 Sicilian_East_ @ 13.504881
12 Sicilian_Agrigento_ @ 13.701771
13 Lebanese_ @ 13.865633
14 Palestinian_ @ 14.211418
15 Lebanese_Muslim_ @ 14.299835
16 Christian_Arabs_Israel_ @ 14.350560
17 Cretan_ @ 14.401912
18 Ashkenazi_Jew_ @ 14.801564
19 Sicilian_Center_ @ 15.194209
20 Sicilian_Siracusa_ @ 15.228900

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Tunisian_Jew_ +50% Tunisian_Jew_ @ 4.032890

Coolguy1
10-04-2018, 02:07 AM
Dodecad k12b?

Sikeliot
10-04-2018, 02:10 AM
Dodecad k12b?

Did you want to model them?

Coolguy1
10-04-2018, 02:22 AM
Did you want to model them?

Yes, and create an average for them.

Sikeliot
10-04-2018, 02:30 AM
Yes, and create an average for them.

#1:
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 32.26
2 Atlantic_Med 22.36
3 Southwest_Asian 21.12
4 Northwest_African 9.52
5 Gedrosia 6.3
6 East_African 4.45
7 North_European 3.7
8 Siberian 0.22
9 East_Asian 0.07

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 7.38
2 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 9.71
3 Lebanese (Behar) 14.48
4 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 14.69
5 Jordanians (Behar) 14.82
6 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 15.36
7 Sicilian (Dodecad) 15.57
8 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 15.64
9 Palestinian (HGDP) 15.84
10 Syrians (Behar) 16.14
11 Cypriots (Behar) 17.7
12 Egyptans (Behar) 18.82
13 Druze (HGDP) 19.64
14 Greek (Dodecad) 22.01
15 C_Italian (Dodecad) 22.23
16 Samaritians (Behar) 22.38
17 Turkish (Dodecad) 22.94
18 Iraq_Jews (Behar) 23.22
19 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 24.06
20 Turks (Behar) 24.16



#2:
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 36.07
2 Atlantic_Med 21.3
3 Southwest_Asian 20.43
4 Northwest_African 9.76
5 Gedrosia 4.74
6 East_African 3
7 North_European 2.71
8 Southeast_Asian 0.93
9 Sub_Saharan 0.69
10 Siberian 0.27
11 South_Asian 0.1

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 7.3
2 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 8.47
3 Lebanese (Behar) 12.74
4 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 13.74
5 Jordanians (Behar) 13.96
6 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 14.32
7 Cypriots (Behar) 14.54
8 Palestinian (HGDP) 14.87
9 Syrians (Behar) 15.38
10 Sicilian (Dodecad) 15.41
11 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 15.61
12 Druze (HGDP) 16.71
13 Egyptans (Behar) 19.27
14 Samaritians (Behar) 19.71
15 Turkish (Dodecad) 21.16
16 Iraq_Jews (Behar) 21.32
17 Greek (Dodecad) 21.87
18 Turks (Behar) 22.5
19 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 22.7
20 C_Italian (Dodecad) 22.99


#3:
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 31.82
2 Atlantic_Med 20.87
3 Southwest_Asian 19.5
4 Northwest_African 10.29
5 Gedrosia 9.65
6 North_European 3.68
7 East_African 3.5
8 Sub_Saharan 0.61
9 Southeast_Asian 0.09

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 8.29
2 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 10.49
3 Lebanese (Behar) 13.64
4 Jordanians (Behar) 14.6
5 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 15.65
6 Syrians (Behar) 15.75
7 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 16.06
8 Sicilian (Dodecad) 16.23
9 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 16.24
10 Palestinian (HGDP) 16.4
11 Cypriots (Behar) 18.14
12 Druze (HGDP) 19.5
13 Egyptans (Behar) 19.64
14 Turkish (Dodecad) 21.49
15 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 21.95
16 Iraq_Jews (Behar) 21.97
17 Turks (Behar) 22.39
18 Greek (Dodecad) 22.49
19 C_Italian (Dodecad) 22.69
20 Samaritians (Behar) 23.26


#4:
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 33.82
2 Atlantic_Med 22.86
3 Southwest_Asian 21.11
4 Northwest_African 10.33
5 Gedrosia 7.12
6 East_African 4.38
7 North_European 0.37

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 7.9
2 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 10.35
3 Lebanese (Behar) 14.48
4 Jordanians (Behar) 14.62
5 Palestinian (HGDP) 15.65
6 Syrians (Behar) 16.28
7 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 16.57
8 Sicilian (Dodecad) 17.12
9 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 17.16
10 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 17.19
11 Cypriots (Behar) 17.33
12 Druze (HGDP) 18.81
13 Egyptans (Behar) 19.15
14 Samaritians (Behar) 21.74
15 Iraq_Jews (Behar) 22.37
16 Turkish (Dodecad) 23.44
17 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 23.83
18 C_Italian (Dodecad) 24.13
19 Greek (Dodecad) 24.24
20 Turks (Behar) 24.56


#5:
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 35.96
2 Atlantic_Med 23.07
3 Southwest_Asian 18.29
4 Northwest_African 8.83
5 North_European 5.99
6 Gedrosia 4.95
7 East_African 1.99
8 Siberian 0.61
9 South_Asian 0.31

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 5.04
2 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 5.11
3 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 9.78
4 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 10.4
5 Sicilian (Dodecad) 11.4
6 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 11.66
7 Cypriots (Behar) 13.88
8 Lebanese (Behar) 14.39
9 Jordanians (Behar) 16.83
10 Syrians (Behar) 17.31
11 Greek (Dodecad) 17.82
12 Palestinian (HGDP) 17.98
13 Druze (HGDP) 18.14
14 C_Italian (Dodecad) 18.97
15 Turkish (Dodecad) 19.65
16 Turks (Behar) 21.39
17 Samaritians (Behar) 22.03
18 O_Italian (Dodecad) 22.48
19 Egyptans (Behar) 22.59
20 Iraq_Jews (Behar) 22.78

Coolguy1
10-04-2018, 02:52 AM
[1] "distance%=2.704 / distance=0.02704"

Tunisian_Jew (N=5)

Druze 45.8
Moroccan (N=4) 19.6
Spanish_Andalusia (N=5) 13.2
Egyptian (N=6) 11.7
Minoan_Lasithi (N=5) 9.7

Its overfitted but its the only way I got a decent fit.

Sikeliot
10-04-2018, 02:55 AM
[1] "distance%=2.704 / distance=0.02704"

Tunisian_Jew (N=5)

Druze 45.8
Moroccan (N=4) 19.6
Spanish_Andalusia (N=5) 13.2
Egyptian (N=6) 11.7
Minoan_Lasithi (N=5) 9.7

Its overfitted but its the only way I got a decent fit.


If I send you Sicilians from Agrigento can you model them? They are the closest to Tunisian Jews. I will only send 5 if you agree to do it.

Coolguy1
10-04-2018, 02:56 AM
If I send you Sicilians from Agrigento can you model them? They are the closest to Tunisian Jews. I will only send 5 if you agree to do it.

Sure

Sikeliot
10-04-2018, 03:04 AM
Sure

#1:
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 32.8
2 Atlantic_Med 25.7
3 Southwest_Asian 13.97
4 North_European 12.29
5 Gedrosia 8.21
6 Northwest_African 5.2
7 Sub_Saharan 1.36
8 East_African 0.45

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 6.61
2 Sicilian (Dodecad) 6.77
3 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 7.73
4 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 7.94
5 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 8.25
6 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 9.44
7 Greek (Dodecad) 11.33
8 C_Italian (Dodecad) 11.71
9 O_Italian (Dodecad) 14.01
10 Tuscan (HGDP) 15.64
11 TSI30 (Metspalu) 16.48
12 Cypriots (Behar) 17.83
13 Turkish (Dodecad) 19.22
14 Lebanese (Behar) 19.47
15 Turks (Behar) 21.32
16 Syrians (Behar) 21.91
17 N_Italian (Dodecad) 21.97
18 Jordanians (Behar) 22.87
19 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 23
20 North_Italian (HGDP) 23.25


#2:
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 30.45
2 Atlantic_Med 27.48
3 Southwest_Asian 14.05
4 North_European 11.55
5 Gedrosia 9.01
6 Northwest_African 4.66
7 East_African 1.45
8 Sub_Saharan 0.94
9 Siberian 0.25
10 East_Asian 0.16

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 7.25
2 Sicilian (Dodecad) 7.6
3 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 9.43
4 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 9.68
5 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 9.82
6 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 10.16
7 C_Italian (Dodecad) 11.15
8 Greek (Dodecad) 12.65
9 O_Italian (Dodecad) 13.32
10 Tuscan (HGDP) 14.7
11 TSI30 (Metspalu) 15.33
12 Cypriots (Behar) 19.86
13 N_Italian (Dodecad) 20.53
14 Lebanese (Behar) 21.03
15 Turkish (Dodecad) 21.21
16 North_Italian (HGDP) 21.69
17 Syrians (Behar) 22.99
18 Turks (Behar) 23.22
19 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 23.77
20 Jordanians (Behar) 23.89


#3:
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 33.07
2 Atlantic_Med 28.75
3 Southwest_Asian 11.59
4 North_European 10.77
5 Gedrosia 9.12
6 Northwest_African 4.63
7 Sub_Saharan 1
8 Siberian 0.69
9 South_Asian 0.37

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 5.42
2 Sicilian (Dodecad) 5.68
3 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 8.69
4 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 8.99
5 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 9.06
6 C_Italian (Dodecad) 9.83
7 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 9.89
8 Greek (Dodecad) 11.65
9 O_Italian (Dodecad) 13.04
10 Tuscan (HGDP) 13.56
11 TSI30 (Metspalu) 14.48
12 Cypriots (Behar) 18.71
13 Turkish (Dodecad) 20.1
14 N_Italian (Dodecad) 20.33
15 North_Italian (HGDP) 21.31
16 Lebanese (Behar) 21.95
17 Turks (Behar) 22.37
18 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 24.15
19 Syrians (Behar) 24.45
20 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 24.59


#4:
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 34.61
2 Atlantic_Med 26.29
3 Southwest_Asian 14.14
4 North_European 12.45
5 Gedrosia 6.48
6 Northwest_African 2.81
7 East_African 1.78
8 Sub_Saharan 0.82
9 East_Asian 0.46
10 South_Asian 0.16

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 4.53
2 Sicilian (Dodecad) 5.16
3 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 5.91
4 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 6.03
5 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 7.75
6 Greek (Dodecad) 9.56
7 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 10.22
8 C_Italian (Dodecad) 10.98
9 O_Italian (Dodecad) 13.79
10 Tuscan (HGDP) 14.83
11 TSI30 (Metspalu) 15.98
12 Cypriots (Behar) 16.42
13 Turkish (Dodecad) 18.66
14 Lebanese (Behar) 19.51
15 Turks (Behar) 21.07
16 Syrians (Behar) 21.83
17 N_Italian (Dodecad) 21.96
18 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 22.66
19 Jordanians (Behar) 22.97
20 Druze (HGDP) 23.05


#5:
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 34.14
2 Atlantic_Med 25.93
3 North_European 12.97
4 Southwest_Asian 12.88
5 Gedrosia 6.56
6 Northwest_African 6.03
7 Sub_Saharan 0.81
8 Siberian 0.44
9 East_Asian 0.22
10 East_African 0.02

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Sicilian (Dodecad) 5.39
2 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 5.73
3 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 5.87
4 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 6.07
5 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 8.01
6 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 9.67
7 Greek (Dodecad) 9.9
8 C_Italian (Dodecad) 10.86
9 O_Italian (Dodecad) 13.61
10 Tuscan (HGDP) 15.03
11 TSI30 (Metspalu) 15.99
12 Cypriots (Behar) 17.4
13 Turkish (Dodecad) 19.04
14 Lebanese (Behar) 20.27
15 Turks (Behar) 21.34
16 N_Italian (Dodecad) 21.72
17 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 22.17
18 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 22.64
19 North_Italian (HGDP) 22.96
20 Syrians (Behar) 23.14

Coolguy1
10-04-2018, 03:13 AM
Sicilian_Agrigento (N=6)

Minoan_Lasithi (N=5) 58.65
Yamnaya (N=4) 19.30
Moroccan (N=4) 11.30
Armenian_West 6.85
Druze 3.90

Sikeliot
10-04-2018, 03:14 AM
Sicilian_Agrigento (N=6)

Minoan_Lasithi (N=5) 58.65
Yamnaya (N=4) 19.30
Moroccan (N=4) 11.30
Armenian_West 6.85
Druze 3.90

Interesting. no evidence of Italic ancestry.

Coolguy1
10-04-2018, 03:16 AM
Interesting. no evidence of Italic ancestry.

20% steppe input, like most southern Italians, thats the Italic and Greek indo-european ancestry.

Sikeliot
10-04-2018, 03:17 AM
20% steppe input, like most southern Italians, thats the Italic and Greek indo-european ancestry.

Cretans had the same amount I believe.

Longbowman
10-04-2018, 03:17 AM
Well they're almost certainly either Sephardi or mostly Sephardi so what do you expect?

Coolguy1
10-04-2018, 03:17 AM
Cretans had the same amount I believe.

And in their case its all proto-Greek. In the case of these Sicilians obviously some of it is Italic.

Sikeliot
10-04-2018, 03:20 AM
And in their case its all proto-Greek. In the case of these Sicilians obviously some of it is Italic.

Maybe so. I didn't think of that.

Sp_loa
10-04-2018, 04:41 AM
Well they're almost certainly either Sephardi or mostly Sephardi so what do you expect?

Tunisian Jews seem to be only Half Sephardi. Like Syrian Jews.

Sikeliot
10-04-2018, 04:42 AM
Tunisian Jews seem to be only Half Sephardi. Like Syrian Jews.

I think they are half Sephardi, half Egyptian Jewish or something.

Longbowman
10-04-2018, 04:42 AM
Tunisian Jews seem to be only Half Sephardi. Like Syrian Jews.

Depends on the Tunisian Jew, if we're talking Djerba etc then they're their own thing, but a lot of the bigger communities, like Tunis and Sfax, were mostly Sephardic. Some admixture.

Sp_loa
10-04-2018, 04:43 AM
I think they are half Sephardi, half Egyptian Jewish or something.

Can you PM me the kit number? Maybe other North African Jews if you have?
As a Moroccan Jewish It’s quite interesting for me.

Sp_loa
10-04-2018, 04:45 AM
Depends on the Tunisian Jew, if we're talking Djerba etc then they're their own thing, but a lot of the bigger communities, like Tunis and Sfax, were mostly Sephardic. Some admixture.


Doesn’t matter. The amount if Sephardi admixture peaks in Morocco ans lowers as you go east. Every tunisian jew will south plot to every Algerian/Morocco Jew. Because they have less Sephardi. But I asked sikeliot to give me the kit I want to look on some models.