Do you think I could fit in some Middle Eastern country as I am?

[manu15151513]

Or making me grow a beard and getting me?


80666


80668



80669



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEqvcT1Lk9k



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2pKzJ1ia3o

[Caveat Emptor]

You are the eternal Italian.

Be proud - we have built the Western Civilization [along with the Greeks].

(I am part Italian as well).

[manu15151513]

You are the eternal Italian.

Be proud - we have built the Western Civilization [along with the Greeks].

(I am part Italian as well).


Do you think I have a typical Italian face? :D

[Caveat Emptor]

Do you think I have a typical Italian face? :D

100% Roman Legion!

[manu15151513]

100% Roman Legion!




Perfect, I was born in Rome and I am genetically very close to them and to the Greeks : D 80670

[Tauromachos]

Probably ,you look ethnic enough to pass there somewhere

But in general you look just like a Med type from Greece and Italy

You look similar to one of my cousins

[Bogdan]

You look South European.

[Leto]

Do you like such dark lighting? You look quite swarthy in those photos. Are you originally Southern Italian?

[manu15151513]

Do you like such dark lighting? You look quite swarthy in those photos. Are you originally Southern Italian?

I am from central Italy, but genetically i am a middle ground between central and southern Italy.

82957

[Leto]

I am from central Italy, but genetically i am a middle ground between central and southern Italy.

82957
You are super swarthy in this one!
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=82957&d=1544547783

[Leto]

@manu, are there many Southern Italians or 'mixed' Italians in Rome?

[Leto]

Are these your results?

Dodecad K12b Oracle results:

Kit Z748782

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Atlantic_Med 32.46
2 Caucasus 28.36
3 North_European 18.07
4 Southwest_Asian 9.85
5 Gedrosia 8.65
6 Northwest_African 1.52
7 Southeast_Asian 0.79
8 East_African 0.3

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 O_Italian (Dodecad) 4.84
2 C_Italian (Dodecad) 5.63
3 Tuscan (HGDP) 7.15
4 TSI30 (Metspalu) 7.36
5 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 10.36
6 Greek (Dodecad) 10.53
7 Sicilian (Dodecad) 10.7
8 N_Italian (Dodecad) 11.89
9 North_Italian (HGDP) 13.54
10 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 14.07
11 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 14.21
12 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 16.99
13 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 17.87
14 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 18.47
15 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 18.79
16 Romanians (Behar) 19.23
17 Baleares (1000Genomes) 21.52
18 Galicia (1000Genomes) 22.69
19 Extremadura (1000Genomes) 22.89
20 Portuguese (Dodecad) 23.4

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 76.1% N_Italian (Dodecad) + 23.9% Iranian_Jews (Behar) @ 1.24
2 75.4% N_Italian (Dodecad) + 24.6% Iraq_Jews (Behar) @ 1.41
3 73.8% N_Italian (Dodecad) + 26.2% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) @ 1.66
4 71.4% N_Italian (Dodecad) + 28.6% Lebanese (Behar) @ 1.91
5 78.6% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 21.4% Argyll (1000Genomes) @ 1.96
6 71.2% North_Italian (HGDP) + 28.8% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) @ 2.1
7 78.8% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 21.2% Irish (Dodecad) @ 2.12
8 79% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 21% Orcadian (HGDP) @ 2.13
9 75.5% N_Italian (Dodecad) + 24.5% Georgia_Jews (Behar) @ 2.14
10 77.8% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 22.2% Cornwall (1000Genomes) @ 2.16
11 78.2% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 21.8% British (Dodecad) @ 2.18
12 79.1% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 20.9% Orkney (1000Genomes) @ 2.22
13 75.5% N_Italian (Dodecad) + 24.5% Assyrian (Dodecad) @ 2.28
14 75.6% N_Italian (Dodecad) + 24.4% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) @ 2.32
15 77.5% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 22.5% Kent (1000Genomes) @ 2.39
16 77.8% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 22.2% English (Dodecad) @ 2.4
17 77.8% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 22.2% CEU30 (1000Genomes) @ 2.42
18 76.4% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 23.6% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) @ 2.6
19 78.6% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 21.4% British_Isles (Dodecad) @ 2.62
20 77.5% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 22.5% Dutch (Dodecad) @ 2.74

[manu15151513]

You are super swarthy in this one!
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=82957&d=1544547783

The images of the thread date back to several months ago, I am a teenager and therefore I am growing up and my physical features are changing.


This is my father, I grow bigger and more like him:

8295882958


In the Italian territory, no dark people are as rare as me. However, also consider the lack of lighting and the fact that I never go out of my house and so I do not tans.

[manu15151513]

Are these your results?

Dodecad K12b Oracle results:

Kit Z748782

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Atlantic_Med 32.46
2 Caucasus 28.36
3 North_European 18.07
4 Southwest_Asian 9.85
5 Gedrosia 8.65
6 Northwest_African 1.52
7 Southeast_Asian 0.79
8 East_African 0.3

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 O_Italian (Dodecad) 4.84
2 C_Italian (Dodecad) 5.63
3 Tuscan (HGDP) 7.15
4 TSI30 (Metspalu) 7.36
5 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 10.36
6 Greek (Dodecad) 10.53
7 Sicilian (Dodecad) 10.7
8 N_Italian (Dodecad) 11.89
9 North_Italian (HGDP) 13.54
10 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 14.07
11 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 14.21
12 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 16.99
13 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 17.87
14 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 18.47
15 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 18.79
16 Romanians (Behar) 19.23
17 Baleares (1000Genomes) 21.52
18 Galicia (1000Genomes) 22.69
19 Extremadura (1000Genomes) 22.89
20 Portuguese (Dodecad) 23.4

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 76.1% N_Italian (Dodecad) + 23.9% Iranian_Jews (Behar) @ 1.24
2 75.4% N_Italian (Dodecad) + 24.6% Iraq_Jews (Behar) @ 1.41
3 73.8% N_Italian (Dodecad) + 26.2% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) @ 1.66
4 71.4% N_Italian (Dodecad) + 28.6% Lebanese (Behar) @ 1.91
5 78.6% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 21.4% Argyll (1000Genomes) @ 1.96
6 71.2% North_Italian (HGDP) + 28.8% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) @ 2.1
7 78.8% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 21.2% Irish (Dodecad) @ 2.12
8 79% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 21% Orcadian (HGDP) @ 2.13
9 75.5% N_Italian (Dodecad) + 24.5% Georgia_Jews (Behar) @ 2.14
10 77.8% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 22.2% Cornwall (1000Genomes) @ 2.16
11 78.2% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 21.8% British (Dodecad) @ 2.18
12 79.1% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 20.9% Orkney (1000Genomes) @ 2.22
13 75.5% N_Italian (Dodecad) + 24.5% Assyrian (Dodecad) @ 2.28
14 75.6% N_Italian (Dodecad) + 24.4% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) @ 2.32
15 77.5% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 22.5% Kent (1000Genomes) @ 2.39
16 77.8% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 22.2% English (Dodecad) @ 2.4
17 77.8% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 22.2% CEU30 (1000Genomes) @ 2.42
18 76.4% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 23.6% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) @ 2.6
19 78.6% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 21.4% British_Isles (Dodecad) @ 2.62
20 77.5% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 22.5% Dutch (Dodecad) @ 2.74




Yes.


Genesis Gedmatch:



Eurogenes K13 Oracle results:
K13 Oracle ref data revised 21 Nov 2013

Kit LK8982731

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 25.22
2 West_Med 24.59
3 North_Atlantic 17.36
4 West_Asian 16.26
5 Baltic 10.88
6 Red_Sea 3.7
7 East_Asian 1.68
8 Oceanian 0.31

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Central_Greek 4.97
2 East_Sicilian 6.64
3 Italian_Abruzzo 6.68
4 Greek_Thessaly 7.58
5 West_Sicilian 7.64
6 South_Italian 7.82
7 Tuscan 10.88
8 Ashkenazi 11.6
9 Algerian_Jewish 14.71
10 Sephardic_Jewish 14.87
11 Bulgarian 14.99
12 Italian_Jewish 15.08
13 North_Italian 15.71
14 Romanian 17.02
15 Tunisian_Jewish 18.86
16 Libyan_Jewish 19.36
17 Cyprian 19.71
18 Turkish 20.97
19 Serbian 21.24
20 Lebanese_Muslim 23.09

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 93.3% Central_Greek + 6.7% French_Basque @ 4.07
2 91.3% Central_Greek + 8.7% Sardinian @ 4.08
3 91.3% Central_Greek + 8.7% Southwest_French @ 4.12
4 91.4% Central_Greek + 8.6% Spanish_Cantabria @ 4.22
5 90.3% Central_Greek + 9.7% Spanish_Andalucia @ 4.26
6 91.3% Central_Greek + 8.7% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 4.31
7 86% Central_Greek + 14% North_Italian @ 4.32
8 92.3% Central_Greek + 7.7% Spanish_Aragon @ 4.35
9 91.2% Central_Greek + 8.8% Spanish_Galicia @ 4.37
10 90.8% Central_Greek + 9.2% Spanish_Extremadura @ 4.39
11 91.6% Central_Greek + 8.4% Spanish_Cataluna @ 4.39
12 91.6% Central_Greek + 8.4% Spanish_Valencia @ 4.41
13 91.9% Central_Greek + 8.1% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 4.43
14 91.5% Central_Greek + 8.5% Portuguese @ 4.46
15 91.9% Central_Greek + 8.1% Spanish_Murcia @ 4.47
16 93.3% Central_Greek + 6.7% French @ 4.56
17 95.3% Central_Greek + 4.7% Southwest_English @ 4.59
18 94.5% Central_Greek + 5.5% East_German @ 4.6
19 94.4% Central_Greek + 5.6% South_Dutch @ 4.61
20 94.3% Central_Greek + 5.7% Austrian @ 4.62

[Leto]

The images of the thread date back to several months ago, I am a teenager and therefore I am growing up and my physical features are changing.


This is my father, I grow bigger and more like him:

8295882958


In the Italian territory, no dark people are as rare as me. However, also consider the lack of lighting and the fact that I never go out of my house and so I do not tans.
I think you should take a picture outside. That lighting is too bad.

[manu15151513]

@manu, are there many Southern Italians or 'mixed' Italians in Rome?

Yes, they are mostly from Campania and Apulia.



I do not know my paternal family, they are unknown, and so I do not know if they are really autochthonous.

[manu15151513]

I think you should take a picture outside. That lighting is too bad.

Unfortunately I only have that one. I do not know him.

[Leto]

Unfortunately I only have that one. I do not know him.
I don't mean him, I mean you. Take a picture in daylight on the street.

[manu15151513]

I don't mean him, I mean you. Take a picture in daylight on the street.

Forgive my misunderstanding, it is difficult for me to communicate in English.


I will do it when I have the chance. What do you have to say about my genetic results? Where do they look typical?

[Leto]

Forgive my misunderstanding, it is difficult for me to communicate in English.


I will do it when I have the chance. What do you have to say about my genetic results? Where do they look typical?
It's all good.
I think you are definitely European, not Middle Eastern

MDLP K23b Oracle results:
MDLP K23b Oracle Rev 2014 Sep 16

Kit LK8982731

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 36.14
2 European_Early_Farmers 23.27
3 European_Hunters_Gatherers 16.61
4 Near_East 9
5 South_Central_Asian 7.45
6 North_African 3.52
7 Melano_Polynesian 1.02
8 Austronesian 0.72
9 Ancestral_Altaic 0.62
10 Arctic 0.55
11 Archaic_African 0.42
12 Khoisan 0.26
13 Amerindian 0.21
14 African_Pygmy 0.21

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek_Northwest ( ) 3.94
2 Sicilian_West ( ) 4.55
3 Ashkenazi_Jew ( ) 4.96
4 Greek_Peloponnesos ( ) 5.32
5 Sicilian_Siracusa ( ) 5.49
6 Sicilian_Agrigento ( ) 5.91
7 Kosovar ( ) 6.03
8 Sicilian_Trapani ( ) 6.2
9 Greek_Thessaly ( ) 6.29
10 Greek_Thessaloniki ( ) 6.61
11 French_Jew ( ) 6.89
12 Albanian_Tirana ( ) 6.92
13 Sicilian_East ( ) 7.09
14 Bulgarian ( ) 7.1
15 Ashkenazi ( ) 7.42
16 Maltese ( ) 7.46
17 Macedonian ( ) 7.86
18 Sephardic_Jew ( ) 8.15
19 Italian_Abruzzo ( ) 8.4
20 Central_Greek ( ) 8.49

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 64.3% Greek_Smyrna ( ) + 35.7% South_German ( ) @ 2.06
2 86.9% Greek_Northwest ( ) + 13.1% Muslim_Arabs_Israel ( ) @ 2.11
3 62.2% Italian_Piedmont ( ) + 37.8% Georgian_Jew ( ) @ 2.24
4 71.8% Greek_Smyrna ( ) + 28.2% Norwegian_East ( ) @ 2.24
5 77% Cretan ( ) + 23% Welsh ( ) @ 2.25
6 75.7% Cretan ( ) + 24.3% English_Kent_GBR ( ) @ 2.26
7 59% Cretan ( ) + 41% Italian_North ( ) @ 2.27
8 76.5% Cretan ( ) + 23.5% French ( ) @ 2.29
9 71.6% Greek_Smyrna ( ) + 28.4% North_European ( ) @ 2.31
10 77.3% Cretan ( ) + 22.7% British ( ) @ 2.33
11 76.4% Cretan ( ) + 23.6% English_Cornwall_GBR ( ) @ 2.33
12 67.3% Greek_Smyrna ( ) + 32.7% North_German ( ) @ 2.36
13 77% Cretan ( ) + 23% CEU ( ) @ 2.38
14 63.2% Greek_Smyrna ( ) + 36.8% German-Volga ( ) @ 2.41
15 73.1% Cretan ( ) + 26.9% Frisian ( ) @ 2.42
16 74.3% Cretan ( ) + 25.7% Irish ( ) @ 2.43
17 70.3% Greek_Smyrna ( ) + 29.7% English ( ) @ 2.44
18 71% Greek_Smyrna ( ) + 29% Swede ( ) @ 2.47
19 74.3% Greek_Smyrna ( ) + 25.7% Icelandic ( ) @ 2.47
20 53.6% Greek_Smyrna ( ) + 46.4% Italian_North ( ) @ 2.48

Your GM kit has too few SNPs, by the way. Which company did you test with?

[manu15151513]

It's all good.
I think you are definitely European, not Middle Eastern

MDLP K23b Oracle results:
MDLP K23b Oracle Rev 2014 Sep 16

Kit LK8982731

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 36.14
2 European_Early_Farmers 23.27
3 European_Hunters_Gatherers 16.61
4 Near_East 9
5 South_Central_Asian 7.45
6 North_African 3.52
7 Melano_Polynesian 1.02
8 Austronesian 0.72
9 Ancestral_Altaic 0.62
10 Arctic 0.55
11 Archaic_African 0.42
12 Khoisan 0.26
13 Amerindian 0.21
14 African_Pygmy 0.21

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek_Northwest ( ) 3.94
2 Sicilian_West ( ) 4.55
3 Ashkenazi_Jew ( ) 4.96
4 Greek_Peloponnesos ( ) 5.32
5 Sicilian_Siracusa ( ) 5.49
6 Sicilian_Agrigento ( ) 5.91
7 Kosovar ( ) 6.03
8 Sicilian_Trapani ( ) 6.2
9 Greek_Thessaly ( ) 6.29
10 Greek_Thessaloniki ( ) 6.61
11 French_Jew ( ) 6.89
12 Albanian_Tirana ( ) 6.92
13 Sicilian_East ( ) 7.09
14 Bulgarian ( ) 7.1
15 Ashkenazi ( ) 7.42
16 Maltese ( ) 7.46
17 Macedonian ( ) 7.86
18 Sephardic_Jew ( ) 8.15
19 Italian_Abruzzo ( ) 8.4
20 Central_Greek ( ) 8.49

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 64.3% Greek_Smyrna ( ) + 35.7% South_German ( ) @ 2.06
2 86.9% Greek_Northwest ( ) + 13.1% Muslim_Arabs_Israel ( ) @ 2.11
3 62.2% Italian_Piedmont ( ) + 37.8% Georgian_Jew ( ) @ 2.24
4 71.8% Greek_Smyrna ( ) + 28.2% Norwegian_East ( ) @ 2.24
5 77% Cretan ( ) + 23% Welsh ( ) @ 2.25
6 75.7% Cretan ( ) + 24.3% English_Kent_GBR ( ) @ 2.26
7 59% Cretan ( ) + 41% Italian_North ( ) @ 2.27
8 76.5% Cretan ( ) + 23.5% French ( ) @ 2.29
9 71.6% Greek_Smyrna ( ) + 28.4% North_European ( ) @ 2.31
10 77.3% Cretan ( ) + 22.7% British ( ) @ 2.33
11 76.4% Cretan ( ) + 23.6% English_Cornwall_GBR ( ) @ 2.33
12 67.3% Greek_Smyrna ( ) + 32.7% North_German ( ) @ 2.36
13 77% Cretan ( ) + 23% CEU ( ) @ 2.38
14 63.2% Greek_Smyrna ( ) + 36.8% German-Volga ( ) @ 2.41
15 73.1% Cretan ( ) + 26.9% Frisian ( ) @ 2.42
16 74.3% Cretan ( ) + 25.7% Irish ( ) @ 2.43
17 70.3% Greek_Smyrna ( ) + 29.7% English ( ) @ 2.44
18 71% Greek_Smyrna ( ) + 29% Swede ( ) @ 2.47
19 74.3% Greek_Smyrna ( ) + 25.7% Icelandic ( ) @ 2.47
20 53.6% Greek_Smyrna ( ) + 46.4% Italian_North ( ) @ 2.48

Your GM kit has too few SNPs, by the way. Which company did you test with?




I tested with the company called livingdna.


Really? If I had more snp I would have much more precise results?

[Leto]

I tested with the company called livingdna.


Really? If I had more snp I would have much more precise results?
Yes, unfortunately LivingDNA doesn't provide good raw data.

[Sp_loa]

You don't look Middle eastern.
Italian (a bit dark tho it seems) or Latin American would be my guesses.

[manu15151513]

You don't look Middle eastern.
Italian (a bit dark tho it seems) or Latin American would be my guesses.


On which images is your assessment based? In those that I posted on the thread I do not look Middle Eastern, but they are dated and not representative of how they are now.

[manu15151513]

Yes, unfortunately LivingDNA doesn't provide good raw data.

What do you advise me to do to solve the problem? Wait?

[Leto]

What do you advise me to do to solve the problem? Wait?
I would recommend you to order another kit, from another company.
By the way, I think you may be as dark as Luigi di Maio
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=80668&d=1538997929

[Sp_loa]

On which images is your assessment based? In those that I posted on the thread I do not look Middle Eastern, but they are dated and not representative of how they are now.

It doesn't matter your facial features would be atypical in the middle east region.

[manu15151513]

I would recommend you to order another kit, from another company.
By the way, I think you may be as dark as Luigi di Maio
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=80668&d=1538997929

This is very old. I'm not so clear-skinned and I do not have such delicate facial features.